/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2644793
fascism is of psychosexual nature, they don't hold those views, its just the views of their team. Why they chose that team over any other team, we all are starting to realize why.

What is the merit of leftism in the US at least? I can understand being leftist in the second and third world, but being leftist in America of all places is like being a noble who is pro democracy. It is just suicidal.
It is another thing if the Left can provide some amount of kinship and purpose, so there can be some material benefit from joining the Left. But the Western Left as it is today is degenerate and disssolute. It does not provide any community beyond polycules and rent sharing agreements that are basically (very toxic) friendship groups. Your prospect of finding either a livelong friend or a marriage partner from joining the left is not that high either, so if you are a progressive it makes more sense to join the Liberals, who do offer opportunity for social networking and marriage ties, than joining the Left or Anarchists

>>2644803
>What is the merit of leftism in the US at least?
i'm tired of being surrounded by psychopaths guaranteeing the death of all humanity for a slight advantage over the rest of the planet?

>>2644803
>being leftist in America of all places is like being a noble who is pro democracy. It is just suicidal.
August Willich is my hero. A nobleman who gave up his titles, fought in 1848, became communist, tried to duel marx for being conservative, lived in workers' dormitories, then moved to america, and fought in the civil war to end black slavery as an old man. If we could all be like him the world would be great but most of us can't.

>>2644803
Sorry, what does this have to do with my question exactly? I wasn't asking why people with left wing values don't always identify as "leftist".

>>2644803
>being a noble who is pro democracy. It is just suicidal.
Alot of nobles saw the writing on the wall and switched sides over to the bourgeoisie, thats where the term monied aristocracy comes from, alot of nobles were willing to sell their titles to the capitalists.

>>2644803
Zigger couldn't resist making the thread about him lmao
>>2644793
Nationalism and/or direct class interest.

>>2644803
Because I want to see the world made a better place where we live without cruelty, hatred or injustice. How else am I to approach this?

Rightism is sadism. The right simply needs a regime where they can comfortably abuse minorities and get away with it.
The left doesn't have that - even if a leftist state is reactionary, it will simply shoot all minorities and not allow ordinary sadists to enjoy it.

>>2644803
> Liberals
Leftists and liberals now share the same superstructure, so there is no difference

>>2644793
Right wing has a community, the left will kick you out once it sees that you serve no use
>>2644803
hope that you'll influence the revolution but the western left is decadent and needs someone to kill it if it can survive

>>2644803
>implying western leftists are all annoying Portland transhumanists

Please try harder I am begging you

>>2645465
Mods ban this one for transphobia

>>2645474
Mods, if you ban him, it proves leftypol is TOG

>>2645449
It's unironic that everyone on the right is united in their hatred of trans people. You can call yourself whatever you want and champion any base, but if you've agreed on the superstructure, you have no complaints.

>>2645346
>Zigger couldn't resist making the thread about him lmao
What is your opinion on NATO expansion

>>2645554
translated into burger from russian

>>2645639
All empires inevitably want to expand. NATO isn't historically special.

>>2644803
>muh polycules
the left where I am is students and trade union guys lmao touch grass

>>2644831
NTA but to answer your original question OP my hunch is in cases where this can't be explained by the usual factors(being a petty bourgeois and the ensuing hitler particles) I have found it usually comes from a place of people who care too deeply about one or more types of idealism and/or woowoo and would rather blather on about escaping the matrix and how spiritually enlightened they are then embrace a more materialist outlook which might imply they aren't an extra special indigo child or more rarely you'll meet a dude whose resembles trump in mindset,demeanor and personality so much that an attack on trump may as well be an attack on them. That being said also the shitass psychoanalyzing is predicated on there being a significant group of people who get slidelined by the Haute bourgeois all the time but I also think they're too good for organizing with the proles and end up thinking everything is a conspiracy personally targeting them.

>>2644793
Depends on what section of the right you're talking about, for bourgeois types it's just a natural defence so they can retain their power and wealth at the top of the hierarchy.

If you mean uneducated, blue collar types it's usually from a place of ignorance and unwillingness to to learn about what socialism actually entails because they have been brainwashed to believe it will effect their material conditions in a negative way.

And for the 4chan and internet right types most of them are anti-social, outcasts suffering from parental neglect and mental illness who have feel scorned by society and the the masses they feel make up that society because they believe they are ultimately responsible for their shit lot in life and for rejecting them socially from society and the way society is in general, they in turn adopt nonsensical, extreme and absurd beliefs out of spite or actively want to harm the masses through mass shootings (the discourse on "normalfags" for example.) They have to retain and upkeep the ideology because their entire ego and identity rests upon it and rejecting it would make their entire identity, life and sense of enlightenment and uniqueness a lie.