/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>but in order for that to happen we would need a proletariat revolution to take its place which automatically implies that the American working class is revolutionary.
What?

>>2646763
How do you stop America from being an economic empire after America collapses? Basically how are you sure that another, similar capitalist regime won't take its place?

>>2646770
America is losing its status as an empire as we speak. Dollar's share as a global currency is at a record low and continues to drop. Every country that turns away from the US and develops its own internal productive forces accelerates this process.

>>American proletarians have no revolutionary potential.
You'd consider me a "multipoltard" and I don't believe this at all. You're conflating the pro-multipolarity position with third worldism. They are not the same.
>How does America collapses and then a continuation of that geographical pole of economic influence doesn't appear again?
The US becoming the capitalist world power that far surpasses all others was a product of the unique conditions after WW2. The US already had the largest economy in the world prior to the war, but afterwards literally every other great power was in ruins and couldn't seriously hope to compete. Now that other powers are emerging as near-peer competitors their edge is lost and their economy and empire based on the assumption of unchallenged dominance is in crisis. No other single state could achieve the kind if singular dominance the US enjoyed without similar advantages, i.e. enjoying a good decade plus of there being no competition.

Before multipolarism there was another popular belief shilled widely across imageboards that started out as people analyzing a trend within the current capitalist epoch and then another group of people deciding that supporting said trend would become their primary political project which in turn allowed them to have an unearned sense of superiority over le normies for sitting at home and doing nothing- Accelerationism.

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>>2646778
So the US hegemonic status would just "wither away" so to speak? Then what? In a peer to peer world, how does that result in communism?

>>2646748
Bong empire is no more despite bong proletariat was, is and will be irredeemably disorganized liberals.

Mutts don't need to be revolutionary for their empire to fall since the empire itself is built on sand and will outcompeted by every socialist state like China is already doing. The bourgeoisie parasites and empire itself is the problem why US sucks for average people and can't it compete in manufacturing or anything anymore. The decision for the US is having the empire or being a functional nation again. It's ruling class now realizes that it needs to be functional nation again to maintain it's empire, but it's really failing with both.

Also what if the world just decides to turn the last irredeemable basion of reaction that is the United States into a desert plain filled with shards of radioactive green glass. No more US, no more US empire and no more US proletariat needing to get it's shit together. Kinda gordian knot solution but it works.

>>2646805
>will outcompeted by every socialist state like China is already doing.
Funny cause every socialist state is a shithole and china isnt even socialist.

>>2646808
You are wrong but it doesn't matter for the argument. Mutt's are being irredeemable as ever and US empire is going down despite it, while losing ground to shitholes that is.

>>2646800
A world in which the bourgeoisie of various regional great powers are at each other's throats instead of united under a single hegemon is one in which communists and other progressive forces can exploit the competition between them. A world in which multiple states compete for imperial superprofits instead of a small handful cooperating to achieve them is one in which the ruling class of any individual country is less capable of placating its workers with concessions. A world in which more countries are able to develop and industrialize on their own terms is one in which more countries have the socioeconomic basis for communism. A world without US hegemony doesn't automatically produce communism, it's just a more favourable environment for proletarian revolution.

>>2646748
Trump did more for the collapse of the Empire in a few years than the American proletariat in a 100 years.