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It becomes imperative for the various strains of infantile left-deviationists (be they the Bordigist armchairs, the dumpster-diving anarchists, or the idealistic voluntarists still clinging to the metaphysics of spontaneity) to immediately confront the sheer magnitude of their historical illiteracy and sign the attached document with the requisite humility.

It is truly fascinating to watch you petty-bourgeois moralists clutch your pearls over actually existing socialism, entirely ignoring that your axioms are derived purely from liberal ideology and fail to account for the material conditions of a besieged proletarian dictatorship attempting to industrialize a plow-based feudal economy into a nuclear superpower in two decades while facing the combined hostility of the entire capitalist world. This dialectic extends inexorably to the PRC as well; for as it has been aptly noted, the productive forces necessary to defend a revolution must be equal to the productive forces attacking it.

Perhaps if you had actually engaged with Capital instead of merely skimming the back cover of The Conquest of Bread or watching CIA-funded video essays, you would comprehend that a revolution is largely the most organized, centralized, and terrifying thing there is. All that crying about "Red Fascism" because the Soviets didn't immediately dissolve the state apparatus while the Wehrmacht was knocking on the door constitutes a counter-revolutionary betrayal of the proletariat.

So please, put down whatever anarchist, leftcom, or revisionist slop you are currently consuming, stop fetishizing failure, and recognize that your "pure" socialism is a phantom; the Real exists only as the profane, this-worldly, dirty-Jewish muck of class struggle. Formally apologize to the General Secretary for your embarrassing lack of theoretical rigor NOW.

>>2647953
I'm reaching the point where I unironically think that you people get sexual pleasure from this.

>>2647953
>All that crying about "Red Fascism" because the Soviets didn't immediately dissolve the state apparatus while the Wehrmacht was knocking on the door constitutes a counter-revolutionary betrayal of the proletariat.

I'd apologize in tears, but surely Comrade Stalin and All Union Communist Party has to apologize as well! For so many tragedies occured for both party members and many young minds in the high command.

Why did they purge most-sparking souls in their high command? Why did they allow old minds like Kulik and Budyonny to dictate Red Army policies? Why did the Red Army suffered big losses for a tiny ground in the Winter War ( and the original goal was spreading the revolution there! ) only to be attacked by Finland again with more losses!
If there is a betrayal to the Red Army heroes who lost their lives and faced deep aches and sorrow throughout, it came from the People's Commissariat of Internal Affairs (NKVD) and their fabrications.
Marshall Tukhachevsky, Marshall Blyuker, Commander Rokossovsky (arrested) and many ones were crushed in the name of a false, silly premise of being counter-revolutionary saboteurs or foreign agents.

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>>2647953
There is 50% chance OP is an ultra

This is like clinging onto the model of the Paris Commune in 1915, we’re in a new era, Leninism only ever works in the global south, which is good but ultimately not good enough (see 1980s-91)

My armchair view is that if you're to have actual contact with normie westoids you more or less need to reject holodomor, the four pests campaign, cambodian genocide, etc. outright. Any attempt even to contextualize would result in you being painted as a closeted supporter for these actions and policies - or genocide. The obvious approach to AES for any morally consistent actor is to disaggregate them viewing these points of contention, and others as separate from the industrial achievements, inequality reduction, workers rights, etc. Really I doubt there's any other way.

Add to this that we know nationalized companies can produce more efficient allocation in natural monopolies, and can correctly compensate for depreciation of natural resources, or can better serve social functions - especially housing, healthcare, and schooling, and building industrial expertise. Plus an internationalist foreign policy, and it perhaps until recently would have gone without saying, a cross-ethnic appeal. That would be a functioning (somewhat radical) social democrat party!

>>2648164
if there in good faith you can actually contextualize by comparing it the problems of the American and French Revolutions and point out how the first capitalist and first socialist revolutions actually had similar issues.

>>2648131
In general, making absolutist statements about what can and can't work in terms of ideology is a very undialectical way of thinking. Whether something works or not is contingent on time and place, contingent on material conditions.

>>2648167
>You can actually contextualize by comparing it the problems of the American and French Revolutions
I'm not sure I can convince you otherwise, especially if you have experience actually doing this. What are the comparable events in American and French history though? The Native American Genocide is what comes to my mind, but I think it's too distant to be useful, that is there's no feeling of "I did this and it was right" as there once might have been to make a comparable claim.

My opinion is rather irrelevant on this, but I hold the view that hypocrisy isn't valuable for making moral claims, that a second evil can't make a right.

Im90% sure the USSR was chorrupt because of challenges un middle managment beaurocracy, and not dictstorships

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>>2647989
why, yes


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>It becomes imperative for the various strains of (ultra obscure sectarianism no one cares about) heresy…
Have you considered joining a seminary or becoming a preacher instead?
>>2647989
You're not wrong. See jouissance and obscene enjoyment.


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