are decades happening, or is it just lib bullshit? I have my doubts honestly, what to you think?, I think this will end up as usual, first worlders will sit there and take it, and it will fail
It has potential to turn into something bigger but we’ll see
>>2653841
i assume it says "islamification" or something
>>2653839 part ogf me wants to believe that, but the cynic in me says no, I see how it looks, but I wonder if first worlders have a shit enough for revolutionary potential, if someone benefits form imperialism, good luck
It is neither fizzling nor sizzling, but a secret third thing
>>2653846kind of figured that
It's sizzling, they are mobilising towards a general strike on Friday 23rd. If that goes off we could be in the cool zone.
>>2653848>It is neither fizzling nor sizzling, but a secret third thingIt is
drizzling >>2653863 the most I hope for I increced resistance in the 1st world, anyone expecting a full revolution?, uygha please!, tell ya what, when it happens, I'll eat my hat
I hope there are leftists on the ground there trying to radicalize people out of liberalism. Otherwise it’s all a waste.
>>2653871yes, this, this exactly 100%, if any of you are from Minneapolis, do this,
>>2653851
Why can't they both be part of it? History is never motivated by singular, isolated factors; it's the result of a bunch of small things adding up to big change.
>>2653851 agreed, wouldn't fuckin surprise me
>>2653871i live in minneapolis and ive been to some protests but the libs are so insanely inpenetrable. its a lot of middleaged larpers and i frankly dont know how to radicalize anyone when some people are literally like hugging ice agents
>>2653882maybe start small, build up, you gotta try, a communist who does not engage in class struggle is not a communist
>>2653886>start smallhow? ive tried talking to some and introducing more radical ideas and theyre just like "well yeah thats cool but theres nothing we can do" or at least stuff along those lines
>>2653888fair enough, but ever consider how commandism never works, you need to get in touch with your org, only together do we have a shot, engage with them on a class-basis, there is underlying proletarian sentiment, do what you can comrade, you have to and you know it
>>2653891
nta but youre right. something is seriously defective with burgers. i hate being a burger so much
>>2653888Its like planting seeds, or bombs.
When I was first introduced to socialist ideas I dismissed them, but as the years went by and I saw reality, these ideas grew like trees in my head. One day like bombs they explodes, the old me was destroyed and a new me had to be formed.
Let people dismiss you, let people think youre wrong. So long as you plant the seed/bomb, it will be fine. Time will make it effective, people can avoid reality for only so long.
>>2653893yanks are a dumb bunch I'll give you that, honestly boggles the mind
>>2653895yes, this exactly, this objectively, 100%
>>2653895what happens when the ruling class get so greedy that first-worlders no longer get treats and concessions, no-longer benefit, maybe that day will come one day, either way, we must plant seeds now, even if it is grim longterm
>>2653895>So long as you plant the seed/bombthats kind of what im doing. like i said its mostly liberal middle aged people, but ive connected a bit more with the younger crowd i think, even though theyre less numerous sometimes
>>2653895Accurate.
I’ve seen it happen first hand. They’ll scoff at you but eventually they get worn down with time. Those ideas will gnaw at the corners of their mind.
>>2653907we must agitate, educate, and organise, do not stop, never stop, the only way is forward, as communists we must never stop this struggle for the future of the entire planet and human race!
>>2653903bourg are prepared to use the stick, paramilitary goons, secret courts, as well as using social media, cognitive warfare, psyops to turn everyone schizophrenic.
>>2653912then we best be fuckin ready then
I want all of you to agitate, educate, propagandise, organise, and prepare for the slim chance it comes, to fight and lay down your life!
we have the fucking internet, so fucking use it, don't give me that 'I'm spied on' shit, nah, time for real shit, fucking get off your ass you fucks
>>2653925>>2653920but im very depressed and constantly want to kill myself and electroconvulsive therapy and drugs dont help
>>2653937welcome to the club, but let me ask you, the fuck do you have to lose?
>>2653939nothing. ive considered protest self-immolation since i was like 13 and read about the arab spring and how that began in tunisia after a protest self-immolation. but i doubt any real change would come of it.
its just hard to get out of bed most days
we must organise, we can't have adventurism, but we must do our part to increase resistance in the first world so those in the 3rd world can revolt! I'm so tired of this apathy, your fucking communists, act like it!
>>2653942if you have nothing to lose then do your duty comrade, our little lives don't count at all, we are but a small spec, so do what you know is right!, you hero, you fellow comrade of the revolution!, do what you know is right! for fuck sake, who esle will!?
>>2653942protest self-immolation doesn't work. Everyone's forgotten that dude who burned himself alive for palestine and there's two more that nobody heard of
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/us-media-cover-up-their-own-people-setting-themselves-on-fire-to-stop-the-gaza-genocide/ >>2653958 agreed, the only path forward is party work
>>2653958>protest self-immolation doesn't worki know. why do you think i havent done it
>>2653947believe me i want to. its just not easy. i think thats what im headed to do though
>>2653960what party
>>2653972why have you not joined an org/party comrade?, I'll be frank, I don't give a fuck what you think you are headed to, do your job!
>>2653925im going to in the upcoming weeks
i just was very unstable in 2025. I had i think 8 catatonic episodes. some of them days long. im hoping 2026 will be better
>>2653989you don't matter and neither do I, our cause does, now go sacrifice you health and life and youth, or you are not a communist
>>2653998that is the plan
>>2654005then keep at it comrade, long live the people's revolution, imma go take a shit
>>2653998>>2653998What an inviting mass message from the radical left. You’re a troll, I hope the other anon actually takes care of themselves too. I have actually organized with various radical organizations and labor unions over the years and the last thing I would tell someone who is having catatonic episodes is that they should self-sacrifice to the point of exhaustion and death. There’s no strength in the movement if we’re dead you knuckle dragging astroturf sniffing creature.
>>2653942>ive considered protest self-immolation since i was like 13Bruh, that's just silly, like, come on, bruh
>>2653871>Otherwise it's a waste.Main positive effect of the Palestinian protests, or Occupy Wallstreet, or
CHAZ might have been radicalization. Did BLM achieve some results, banning of choke holds in 31 of 100 largest localities and probably other things like reducing discrimination and policing of schools in several localities? Certainly the Civil Rights movement did achieve great ends. What makes these different?
>>2654039whatever is or is not achieved, we fuckin need all hand son deck, or we're fucked
>>2654039All of those “gains” are getting rolled back. If you want them to stay permanent you can’t allow the conditions for that to happen again. You have to push people further left.
In regards to Jake Lang I'll repeat and add on to what I said in the US politics thread.
I can't remember an instance of a right wing figure getting their ass beat by mobs of protesters. Like there was the guy who punch Richard Spencer but again it was by one guy, not a whole mob. To me it seems that the people are done putting up with MAGATs and their reactionary schizophrenia.
Also from the reactions from right wingers on Twitter, it seems they thought that with Trump in charge they could finally leave the internet and terrorize people IRL again. Only to learn that everyone hates them and aren't putting up with them.
So going forward I doubt we'll be seeing MAGATs trying to hold rallies in Minnesota or showing their faces in general.
>>2653835On the one hand it's genuinely radicalizing lots of libs and this could have been used by a competent party to greatly grow an armed body and contest state power. This seems even more legitimating to such an idea than during the anti-police protests, since this is a federal occupying force that's been given explicit immunity from the law for all actions, including murder, rape, and theft. On the other hand it's a totally manufactured political crisis. The strings are being pulled by the far right elites in line with the Heritage Foundation and they are creating polarization on purpose. People's living standards, besides the new stronger possibility of being brutalized randomly, haven't changed much and the rise in consciousness seems limited geographically and to the left. There's no competent party to take advantage of the situation and lead the people.
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