I've come to the conclusion that right wingers (especially American ones) are completely indifferent to the idea of them or anyone they care about being killed. You might see them fearmongering about it every time there's a minority in the news for doing something violent, but they react that way any time a minority is in the news for any reason, good or bad. Or on TV at all. Or even just out on the street. It's the fact that they're forced to be reminded that minorities exist at all that is truly making them lash out.
Conversely, when a cishet white person kills someone, even if it's someone they allege to care about, they shrug their shoulders and think nothing of it. White guy shot my husband? Well it wasn't a trans so I don't really care anymore. White guy shooting citizens in their cars without consequence? Whatever, at least I see fewer brown people outside. My own child dies because I didn't get them vaccinated against measles? Well, that was my decision, and I'm white, so who cares? Half my family drowns or starves because the president tricked me into refusing disaster aid? Why should I care, rich white people can do whatever they want! And don't even get me started on their military cuckoldry fixation.
What do you even call this phenomenon? Psychopathy? Extreme NPC Syndrome? It's hard to even believe that people like this are real, let alone such a large percentage of the population.
lol very pseud thread
>muh death as this big deal*cue bordiga's essay about the aztecs*
<In natural and primitive communism, even though humanity is conceived within the limits of the horde, the individual does not aim to subtract wealth from his brother but rather is willing to be sacrificed without the slightest fear for the survival of the great phratry.[1] Idiotic conventional wisdom sees this as the terror of a God who must be placated with blood.https://www.marxists.org/archive/bordiga/works/1961/janitzio.htmCome to Iran protests thread if you want to see apathy to death
>>2654637Pretty big difference between apathy to the death of strangers at the hands of people half way across the world, versus apathy to your own child being shot at school.
>>2654641Okay nationalist faggot
>What do you even call this phenomenon?
Authoritarian personality.
Right wingers are not apathetic to death though, exact opposite, they tend to be more fearful of it than most, which can manifest in seemingly opposite behaviour, due to denial and projection. So they close their eyes to real dangers but then transfer the feeling of fear on made up ones.
For example they try to pacify fear of inevitable death through belief in afterlife, but will engage in fantasy that Al-qaeda terrorists will kill them in their local Walmart.
>>2654641>apathy to your own child being shot at school.The basic Marxist position is unconditional opposition to any forms of gun restriction by capitalist states.
>>2654644>they tend to be more fearful of it than most, which can manifest in seemingly opposite behaviour, due to denial and projection.Ah, yeah that makes sense.
>>2654631You dont fear death?
>>2654631Man crazy how worthless bordiga is lmao
>>2654827Only le party member will get this it seems, since party is le communism in le embryonic form, le anticipation of it. Us le non party people will never get this text because we are le influenced and shaped by le capitalism. Are you le party member or le vanguard?
Seriously, i dont understand what Bordigga is trying to say here
>>2654831primitive communism didn't have the "individual" as we understand it today
there was no individual, just the species
the (social) reproduction of the species trumps the individual
to die for the species/collective is to not die at all since the species/collective continues to exist
does it make more sense? not a bordigist btw
>>2654833Sure. We are le alienated, or something and our individuality and sense of self is le expression or, perhaps, le consequence of this alienation, o algo.
>>2654834>>2654833Death is still scary though. So wtf is bordigga going on about
>>2654827Motherfucker the Inca and Aztec were not primitive communist societies lol. People still feared death when they were human sacrificed, especially with the Aztec where the primary sacrifice would be people captured during war who would have their hearts cut out while still alive. With the Inca they'd drug the fuck out of them . This is all completely useless sophistry.
Catholics were much worse than the amerindians sure, but that's irrelevant
>>2654833did he pull that argument from his ass ? I don't remember bordiga being an anthropologist
>>2654981Neither was Marx but people can read and learn, retard.
Empathetic humanist leftoid leftypoler when palestinian civilian machine-gunned: 😭😭😭😭😭
Empathetic humanist leftoid leftypoler when kazakh/iranian/ukrainian/*subhuman golem that needs to rally around dear leader* civilian machine-gunned: 😂😝😂😝😝😂😝😝😝
>>2654840POWs was a source but by no means the only source. Many volunteers and children of community members were chosen for sacrifice too. Regardless what Bordiga was saying that was that these primitive communism had a whole civilization anchored to a Dasein (even if Bordiga did not term it that way) which he deliberately contrasted with the decadent and degenerate Western civs where individuals chase around fetishized power like wealth and in death the Modern Man desperately tried to leave a reminder of himself, because lacking a connection to a greater civilizational purpose the individual man's sole legacy is to force other people to remember his name. This had been a pathology of the West since the days of Rome, contrasted favourably to the Dasein of Amerindians
>>2654986>that namefagDon't mention AB's name in vain, lib.
Hmm, i could've been a little naughty and point out how demonization of human sacrifice in the Western context came from the Old Testament and the trope of Moloch- i.e a book written by literal Jews, and this reflect their latent capitalism, but then i remember that Confucius also opposed human sacrifice, same with the later Vedic texts
Ok
>>2654629If you are truly interested in an answer, OP, please read Adorno's The Authoritarian Personality!
>>2654986For the Aztec the main source of human sacrifice was pows and tributes, the inca often selected children from the elites or their subjects' elites, "volunteers" were an extremely rare occurrence. Regardless, neither society is considered a form of primitive communism, they were both relatively large empires which had class society lol, so the point is moot. Bordiga was a retard and so are you
>>2655046He was old. People are not always the same thing.
>>2654631Most of the sacrifices by the Mexica empire were POWs, not willing subjects doing it for clout and phratry.
>>2654996>>2654629No, a better text on the subject is the Mass Psychology of Fascism by Wilhelm Reich.
>>2655114I'll believe it when I see it. It's also no excuse for the people peddling this retardation itt
The Aztecs and Incas were empires who held surrounding peoples under imperial rule or used them as a source of human capital to extract. Part of what allowed Cortez and Pizarro to defeat them was the internal politics of these places. Cortez was able to gather dissidents against the Aztecs, and Pizarro lucked into meeting the Inca shortly after a civil war over succession that had weakened their military forces. Key elements of their defeat are directly tied to their nature as empires. (That's not to say colonialism was good in these cases - it ultimately traded local empires for foreign ones who were even more brutal)
>>2654840>>2655046>>2655121>>2655353Nice argument retards, unfortunately
>In Mexico, in a lake called Patzcuaro, there is a little island called Janitzio. 2350 meters above sea level a stunning landscape opens up before visitors: tranquil waters, mountains, torturous slopes, a sky so close you can almost touch it with a finger. Descendants of a proud race, the Tarascan Indians did battle against the Spanish conquistadors. He was talking about a specific community in a small Island of 'uncivilised barbarians' ie primitive communists
Death is scary though
Yes they did not fear death, where do you think the day of the dead came from?
>>2655428Indeed. Inca was a young empire with tributary relations with communities, which communities already had tradition of communal labor obligations and communal system before empire. It's legit.
>>2655434Life is worse.
>>2655428That's just a quote from the article he's responding to, which talks about the Day of the Dead celebration they are participating in. He uses this to make a broader point about the Amerindian civilizational culture, specifically the Inca
>We have taken this article from an Italian children’s comic just as it is and under its own title. It is one of countless rehashes of U.S. “cultural” production which pass from tabloid to tabloid and from review to review without the hacks in service noticing anything other than the degree of effect of each piece that circulates. This umpteenth copycat has not even dreamt of the deeper meaning that its diffusion hides, albeit in a conventionally conformist guise.>The noble Mexican population, having become Catholic under the merciless terror of the Spanish invaders, would show that they have remained “primitive” by not being terrified and horrified of death.
>If under the guise of the squalid Catholic saints the most ancient form of a not-inhuman divinity, like the Sun, continues to live, this brings to mind what knowledge we have — all too often a travesty! — of the Incan civilization that Marx admired. It is not that they were primitive and ferocious enough to sacrifice the most beautiful specimens of their young to the Sun who cried out for human blood, but that such a community, magnificent and powerfully intuitive, recognised the flow of life in that same energy which the Sun radiates on the planet and which flows through the arteries of a living man, and which becomes unity and love in the whole species, which, until it falls into the superstition of an individual soul with its sanctimonious balance sheet of give and take, the superstructure of monetary venality, does not fear death and knows personal death as nothing other than a hymn of joy and a fecund contribution to the life of humanity.This is when he starts talking about primitive communism and shit. Which makes sense, because they were the ones sacrificing the "most beautiful specimens of their young", not this little tribe by the lake where they dress up for day of the dead
>>2655472>life is worseExplain. Also, how does one learn to not fear death and precarity? (Inb4 muh voluntarism)
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