/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2660051
Carney's speech about "middle powers" was pretty clearly an exercise at hedging risk, not a fundamental political restructuring. Canada and Europe are still at their core imperialist and atlantist powers, but they're beginning to realize that the US is turning into a source of instability. In this context they become more open to european remilitarization and economic cooperation with China and with non-aligned nations, but they still see the developing world as colonial assets that must be exploited and managed. Make no mistake, even as minor imperial nations get cannibalized by the United States, they will STILL side with the US in wars against oppressed nations and rising powers (China, Russia, etc…). Their stance on Palestine, Syria, Iran, Venezuela, etc… None of that has changed.

>>2660051
China have a capitalist economy you know? They may extend their egemony worldwide, but why would they make anything socialist?

>>2660051
>Given that, when can we expect China to implement global socialism?

no because china is pro-sovereignty and anti-military-intervention. the proletariat of various nations must seize power for themselves and begin socialist construction on a national level as described in chapter ii of the manifesto.

>>2660051
>Given that, when can we expect China to implement global socialism?
No.When the world was transitioning from feudalism and serfdom to capitalism, Britain didn't just decide to 'implement global capitalism' one day. They took actions in the right direction like banning the slave trade but couldn't ban slavery in general. Each country had to do that often violently (e.g the American civil war). There is no reason to think China could just decide to 'implement global socialism' one day.

>Trump is about to drive Canada and Europe into China's arms over this greenland shit
no he isn't

the grandstanding is for show

europe will bend the knee and sell greenland to zion don for peanuts and you know it

>>2660135
It was also explicitly anti-communist. I'm not sure what they are complaining about they are getting everything they want. "Blackest reaction", etc.

The fact that almost every socialist nation supported by the USSR collapsed outside of a few exceptions (Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, Belarus, Laos) is proof that China was right in the long run to stick to non interventionism. Cuba is going to be overthrown eventually now that Venezuela has been coerced. The Asian communist states are all dependent on China in one way or another (notice how North Korea's economy immediately went into a downturn during Covid bcause a hard lockdown cut off trade with China). Laos relies on financing and trade with China and so does Vietnam which both benefits from Chinese trade and also plays up the possibility of aligning with the West to maximize benefits from all sides. Belarus can fall back upon Russian help but even the Belarusian communists are wary of Russia due to what they see as reactionary trends.

Basically the Chinese argument is this: a socialist nation intervening to "speed up" the victory of socialism in another country is doomed to fail. It is nothing other than the propping up of a tiny political minority which lacks the trust and support of the majority of that nation, and as soon as funding and support is stopped the quick reversion back to capitalism proves that the attempt was built on a shaky foundation. Therefore socialist countries should prioritize their own interests first over interventionism, and simply maintain a holding pattern. Capitalist countries can continue to function after the reigning hegemon dies (ex. the British Empire). Why should socialist nations be any different?

Not a single person on this board can command the support of even 5% of their country. And yet they have the arrogance to demand to be put in charge with foreign military backing. Isn't this backwards? Shouldn't you win your nation to your side first, and then go ask the Chinese for help? That's what Eritrea did.

>>2660361
>China was right in the long run to stick to non interventionism.
Some Boomers who went in Korea would disagree.

>>2660361
>The fact that almost every socialist nation supported by the USSR collapsed outside of a few exceptions (Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, Belarus, Laos) is proof that China was right in the long run to stick to non interventionism.

Thats not how proofs work. Thats an example of a random correlation not a proof of causation.

>>2660361
Presumably you believe they spontaneously collapsed on their own through no interference of a certain global hegemon?

>>2660361
no, you see, China actually has to solve all our problems for us. the fact that they aren't doing this and are instead acting in their own self-interests, developing the productive forces by passing through the capitalist mode of production until it has exhausted all its potential, and building up the third world in mutually beneficial ways is proof that they CLEARLY aren't socialist