/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2661798
The state is always two steps ahead because they control all the psyop machines.

>>2661804
I declare general strike.

>>2661804
yeah that's a given, these day-long "strikes" have always been a bad joke, I'm tempted to assume that whoever came up with that idea was cointelpro from the start

>>2661649
>talking about things in terms of "consciousness" is one of the most basic concepts that communists make use of
the issue i raised wasn't that you employed the concept of consciousness at all, it was that you employed it as if the fact of a lack of advanced consciousness is by itself a sufficient material diagnosis of the contemporary "left's" failings. an actual historical materialist analysis would concern itself with the facts of human life that slow or prevent the development of advanced consciousness.

In hindsight I'm surprised they let Maduro aura farm peak nonchalance in his prison photos instead of AIing him into a crying soyjak (and making him a foot shorter)

I'm seeing people joking that euroids placated Trump over Greenland by promising him full military access to it counting on him not knowing he already had it, and you know what, that seems all too possible.

>>2661798
It was a good idea, but the SA (brown shirts) kidnapping people is actively organizing the world against them. The contrived distractions of the drama influencers are to keep the cult shielded from reality, so it looks like a protracted resistance enduring many more casualties is what ends the shindig as the cult shrinks and public sentiment sours on the SA.

>>2661822
mexico did the same a while back. the problem is that eventually word gets back to trump that he's been "fooled" (does this count as fooling) and he feels humiliated and lashes out. but trump might treat euroids different. or he might just forget due to dementia.

>>2661716
yanqui chimp thinks their latest AFL-CIA organized #HandsOffNATO liberal imperialist protest matters.
>>2661782
it's true. stop DEBOONKING and start killing

>united states politics
There's nothing more here than the zomified transactions of desperate capital

>>2661824
You live on another planet, utterly delusional

>>2661829
Elaborate pls. Are you saying public opinion won't shift, or that there won't be more casualties or kidnappings? Does maga not isolate its adherents from reality with contrived propaganda?

>>2661830
I literally cannot be bothered to take the time to explain the defecits in your reasoning if you are going to reduce political realities into a black and white pantomime

>>2661650
Most people online live in a middle class bubble and believes everyone has the same intelligence as them until they disagree with what they say.

>>2661833
Okay, then. You insult like a reactionary so I was just curious where you were coming from. Have a good day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14r7y6rM6zA

>>2661835
>expressed frustration
yeah, sure, lol.
pic-semirelated.
whoever buying that is the son of this mother.

im so lonely

is it impossible to find love on the left? what are my chances of finding a gf at an anti-ICE protest?

>>2661840
all jokes aside, organizing is a way to help build Community, anon, and yes, you should be doing it not just for the cause but for your well-being too

>>2661835
>Speaking to Axios, one top presidential adviser insisted that Trump still wants “mass deportations,” but is feeling uneasy about the optics.

>“I wouldn’t say he’s concerned about the policy. He wants deportations. He wants mass deportations. What he doesn’t want is what people are seeing,” he said. “He doesn’t like the way it looks. It looks bad. So he’s expressed some discomfort at that… There’s the right way to do this. And this doesn’t look like the right way.”

>Trump’s reservations stretch back to before the ICE shooting of Minnesota woman Renee Nicole Good, which sparked further demonstrations, when Trump’s team reviewed private Republican polling showing erosion in support for his immigration agenda, according to the outlet. The polling reportedly showed a dip among independents, moderates, and minority voters, a bloc critical to his 2024 victory and to Republican hopes of holding the House majority in November’s midterms.

>…Those numbers have taken on new urgency as footage from Minneapolis, including masked federal officers and confrontations with demonstrators, circulates on cable news and social media, with Trump voters like Joe Rogan questioning the tactics.

>The moment, according to Axios, has prompted quiet talk among some advisers of “recalibrating” the administration’s approach. What that means in practice remains unclear.
Almost smells like blood.

>>2661840
Go to the incel thread

>>2661843
lol

these ghouls' entire appeal was the optics, not the numbers. they could've just followed the obama deportation machine if they wanted pure numbers but that wouldn't let them live out their weekend warrior fantasies of busting heads in the streets

>>2661844
being lonely does not an incel make lol. We are desiring machines. Desire is a productive force, not to be ashamed of and repressed. Anon wants a gf with the same values he has. That is good, and he should do that. As long as you're genuine, and you wear your heart somewhat on your sleeve, this is absolutely not only possible, but encouraged in my opinion.

>>2661844
>wanting love and companionship is "incel"
the people on this site really are not serious people huh

>>2661843
The cat is quite literally out of the bag; any ground lost on the issue will weaken his position and embolden his enemies, whilst internal party pressures will push the base further to the right. His administration doubled down when it threatened to use the insurrection act as well as its point blank refusal to conduct an investigation into the officer responsible for the Rene Good shooting.

Next stop: the south pole.

>>2661851
yeah? suck on this pole *points to dilznick*

>>2661716
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>>2661720
if I were the accelerationist in charge of ICE I would order ICE to attack these people or maybe even try to starve minneapolis by blockading the roads and bridges into it. Maybe starve it of electrical power. A media blackout and siege against Minneapolis to punish them for their very weak resistance might finally awaken revolutionary energy in this country

>>2661857
That's exactly why ICE simply retreated and will be back tomorrow instead of antagonizing the protestors. The fascists are terrified of this outcome.

>>2661849
I think they're demoralized over Greenland not working out, maybe realizing there's more to this whole geopolitics thing than brute force

>>2661860
Forgot to remove my sarcastic fed flag

>>2661843
again. this is BS. you can't possibly believe the guy is 'feeling uneasy', about anything.
unless he fires steven miller, and openly changes the tune, this is pure face saving propaganda to calm the people.

>>2661860
I don't think greenland was ever the actual objective.
I don't know how people don't understand Trump's psychology yet.
>Make some outlandish claim about something you're gonna do that freaks everyone out
>Pretend it's a joke and keep repeating it to make people nervous
>It's not actually a joke
>Once the reality sets in, the other party will rush to the negotiating table to prevent the collapse of human civilization
>Trump privately negotiates for bribes to his hotels to "convince" him to drop the issue
>Suddenly he comes out and says the opposing leader is a "great guy" and they came to a "historic agreement" while refusing to offer any details of what was agreed to
>Later on it's revealed, but no one cares because corruption is better than "the literal end of the world" so liberals don't even bring it up for fear of being accused of being "pro-greenland annexation" or "pro-war in venezuela" or whatever.
>Usually this is also connected to some domestic crisis that he's trying to distract from, and the two issues can be played against eachother to keep control of the narrative at all times

what a dumb country we all live in

>>2661863
>feeling uneasy
It's kinda obvious that any talk of his history with jeffrey makes him uneasy, so there's one thing. That, and not getting his way.
>>2661864
The cruelty is the point, true. Flooding the zone with cruelty.

>>2661867
the point is that he escalates every situation to "nuclear war" and then "offers" the option of "letting you off easy" for the low low price of a subscription to Trump Steaks

>>2661871
Well, at least he's finally a billionaire instead of just playing one on tv.

>>2661511
>homosexuality or abortion or other liberal tentpoles.
the soviet union was the first place to grant proles good abortion rights you little concern troll, you may also find it enlightening to compare and contrast sexual orientation policies in east and west germany. liberals and socialists agreeing on an issue doesn't mean that they are both wrong

>>2661496
what class enemies are you not allowed to mention?

>>2661511
This is the harsh truth

>>2661496
>intersectional positivity
this retarded ass faggot just confused intersectionality and body positivity with each other

>>2661892
I don't know how to correctly frame my point but basically if someone's religion or some other personal belief system forbids them from endorsing homosexuality or abortion or some other issue and leftists decide they CANNOT compromise on this issue or include people in their ranks who feel differently, then you make your job much harder convincing people to join your side with purely economic arguments like "appealing to their class interests." These people can read between the lines and if they're not allowed to voice their opinions in the people's congress or whatever you wanna call it then they'll just abandon your movement. It's kind of a slippery slope trying to avoid the paradox of tolerance and prevent reactionary types from hijacking your movement while letting them participate.

Stalin was probably smart to revive things like the church, and while the USSR did backslide on some things(homosexuality) when it came to civil rights, there were other things(women's labor participation) that they maintained until the end. I guess the long term view is giving people political representation within the party can be enough to guarantee them rights without necessarily codifying it. If gays and religious folks can have reasonable dialogue and have discussion in the people's congress about labor issues without resorting to genociding eachother then that's good enough, no? It's why China manages to function despite having a ton of religious and ideological diversity. The will of the party and forming political consensus among communists is all that matters. If we have no people's congress, ideological purity should be irrelevant.

>>2661496
hot take for you guys still stuck in 2016, but in an imperial core settler colony melting pot like the USA, intersectionality is essential to class struggle. some of you will no doubt strawman intersectionality as "when you make the black trans obese homeless undocumented uneducated disabled homosexual mentally ill non english speaking woman the general secretary of the american communists because she ticks the most oppression boxes on the intersectionality checklist" but that is not what intersectionality actually means in practice unless you are a radlib. What it means in practice for communists is simply not overlooking non-class forms of oppression when building a broad coalition of diverse proletarians in a diverse country. Obviously if some fed wreckers are using a "failure to be intersectional" to wreck your group, fuck them, it's obvious when that's happening. But you shouldn't go full ACP and be like "communism is about being a conservative christian trad husband who wears a hard hat to work"

>>2661511
soviets didn't give a fuck that 90% of the population was religious retard peasants. they committed to militant atheism. revolutions are committed minorities of educated vanguards who seize power then change society, not winners of a popularity contest.

>>2661919
and where are they now

>>2661920
they collapsed because of revisionism, not because they over-committed to atheism, dumbass.

>>2661919
anon that's exactly my point though? soviets didn't rely on being ideologically identical to the peasants. they simply organized the peasantry in spite of their differences.

>>2661919
immediately after the USSR people flocked to the orthodox church or islam. the communists commitment to militant atheism was a failure and a wasted effort. you just have to accept whether you understand what it is or not, that some people get something out of religion. they way to go is to keep religious institutions transparent, registered to the government, and on a tight leash. the way the CPC does. make sure they cannot spread scientific quackery or seditious sentiment.

>>2661926
>immediately after the USSR people flocked to the orthodox church or islam.
because religion provides welfare when capitalism is reintroduced. it's less that people actually believe in the spooks and more that they pretend to in order to get free cookies from the grandma at church.

>>2661188
>PRC deserve revenge on us but yanqui chimp presence in south china sea prevents glorious corrective historical movement against CIA mind virus liberal demokkkrat "japan" created by USA.
honestly let this crazy nygha cook. even the CPC agrees that burger influence in Japan is rotten and keeps the country reactionary and neocolonized. Burgers using the WW2 victory against Japanese fascism as an excuse to keep Japan reactionary, liberal, and neocolonized is sus. The plaza accord shit you mentioned is also fucked.