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>>2664844Remember, legal + illegal struggle
Remember, praxis + theory
Remember, it's not impossible
"Open the jail gates or we will close the mill gates." – "Big" Bill Haywood
baked early award
>>2666258ah shit, the other one said 590-something until I refreshed. I guess mods deleted a lot of spam in the other one since the last time I refreshed.
>>2666261the decline and collapse of an empire is a slow series of events, not an instantaneous event. so yes. we will still have a nation. things will continue to get worse in the stupidest way possible and so on. "cold civil war" is a term I see being thrown around a lot lately.
>>2666264sorry degrowther the productive forces WILL accumulate
>>2666263Even capitalists believe in labor theory of value. They have to because it's how the best capitalists make money: By recognizing who creates value, and exploiting those people. Deviations from LTV which came after Marx, Smith, and Ricardo were largely copes deployed by a bourgeois priesthood with the explicit purpose of obfuscating exploitation.
>>2666267only to the extent which the ecosystem can tolerate. Only some resources are renewable.
>houdini reading list in the OP
lol based
>>2666267I’m not a degrowther.
>>2666276I mean yeah it's true. Look at Rome. They had crazy megalomaniac rapists like Caligula and still kept going after that.
>>2666266>cold civil warok show me an ied, an ambush, or anything that looks like a war. because so far it looks more like civil submission. people talk about ice but would you risk your life for open borders?
and I say open borders because although they would certainly do this against communists if there was a strong communist movement, there is not, and protests in favor of migrants (that chose to move to the us) isn't going to conjure one into existence. liberals seem to have this image where migrants are completely destitute refugees, but in latam it is usually understood that the people that emigrate to the us are hustlers and not that desperate
>>2666283why cant he tweet like this anymore
>>2666282I never had a snow day. Luckily it never snowed where I live.
>>2666283he's such a diva
>>2666281>liberals seem to have this image where migrants are completely destitute refugees, but in latam it is usually understood that the people that emigrate to the us are hustlers and not that desperateMy take is this: Communist countries are against immigration because they are against brain drain and capitalist spies subverting their besieged revolutionary nation. That is understandable from a communist perspective. But imperial core nations like the US experience mass migration because the US pays higher wages and people want to migrate where the wages are higher and the purchasing power is greater, and send money home to their families as remissions. That is understandable. Even if they're hustlers or gusanos, I think it levels the playing field between teh core and periphery and undermines imperialism, so I'm not against it. Even if it's not in my short-term class interests as an imperial-core-dweller, it's in my long term class interests. Capiche?
>>2666287yeah trumps america feels insecure and wants to project authority the same way china and russia does so 'things can get done' and its backfiring hard
>>2666283yes, that's why I asked for unconventional, localized or otherwise low intensity warfare - the "war" in "cold war", like there was during the actual cold war. it doesn't just mean general animosity between sides
>>2666284imperial declines are still slow and boring in general. Look at Dutch and British and French empires. They're "gone" now but it's not like each of these nations are in vine covered ruins with rabid dogs running through empty streets.
>>2666290>Even if they're hustlers or gusanos, I think it levels the playing field between teh core and periphery and undermines imperialismIf it really undermined imperialism then imperialist governments would oppose it more vigorously. Most Western countries need immigration because their birth rates are too low, and their systems are designed to impose brain drain on the rest of the world.
>>2666292ok you win the debate bro, I wasn't that invested in the term in the first place. In my original post I was pointing out that it gets thrown around a lot, that's all.
>>2666294ok, so what's the conclusion you want me to draw from this? Proles should support ICE brutality because the targets are le gusanos and le hustlers? Even I'm not that much of a heartless anti-moralfag. I think the immigrants will continue to flood the imperial core until asymmetrical development, asymmetrical exchange, and asymmetrical wages are corrected. When the US started borrowing money from China in the 1970s, the average American made 40x the average Chinese person. So of course jobs are gonna get outsourced and immigrants are gonna show up. That gap is getting closed so eventually the US will be so degraded that they no longer have an incentive to come here. Chuds see that as "they're destroying our wholesome society" but I see it as a natural consequence of empire overextending itself in explicit acts of conquest while resting on the laurels of its past internal development. I'm trying to find a balance between local class consciousness as an imperial core dweller and global proletarian class consciousness, and recognition of the necessity of ending imperialist exploitation of the rest of the world. I can't in good conscience support what ICE is doing even if their targets are "Gusanos" and "Hustlers" therefore, because it's all a byproduct of a system. I blame porky for seeking cheap labor and outsourcing jobs, but even they are just recognizing necessity and pursuing their own class interests.
De-spookify and reeducate me if you must.
>>2666293Even Rome's collapse was a lot less dramatic for most people than we often think. Odoacer was a commander in the Roman army that essentially just deposed the Western emperor in a coup, then continued operating the Western Roman state apparatus until the Eastern Romans and Lombards carved up Italy. We only say this was the "end" of the Roman empire because he didn't crown himself emperor, but institutions like the senate remaind intact for some time afterwards. In the Western provinces communities of Germans and others who migrated in earlier centuries just grew more and more powerful until they evolved into sort of client kingdoms, then independent ones. It's not as if the empire was intact one day and then smashed to pieces by a vast horde of invading barbarians.
>>2666300>ok, so what's the conclusion you want me to draw from this? Proles should support ICE brutality because the targets are le gusanos and le hustlers? I'm not saying you should draw any conclusion from it. I'm just saying I don't agree that immigration undermines imperialism.
>>2666299well the migration is only going to get worse when the consequences of climate change hit the equatorial regions hardest. and the death squads will only get more hateful in their rejection of hungry mouths from the "jungle" flooding their "garden".
>>2666303Look if we really do make way more money for the same job than the rest of the world, as I constantly get told on here, and people come here in recognition of that, and they send part of their wages home to their families, then isn't that, indirectly, a form of wealth redistribution from the core to the periphery? As dedollarization gets worse, eventually the US dollar will have weak enough purchasing power that people wont' want to come here anymore and they'll immigrate to China or something instead, for high wages.
>>2666305>immigrate to China or something instead>immigrate to ChinaLol. Lmao
>>2666305>then isn't that, indirectly, a form of wealth redistribution from the core to the periphery?Sure but it's chump change compared to what Western porkies are extracting from the third world. Employees by definition produce more wealth for their employers than they take home or can send to their families, so it's still a net gain for the Western porkies.
>>2666290>undermines imperialismonly in the very limited sense that, because no system lasts forever, society is constantly undermining itself. the more efficient allocation of labor (from underdeveloped countries to developed countries) will benefit the developed countries and move progress forwards - but it is the same discussion as free trade and protectionism: communists don't really care, it's a bourgeois debate, at most you should have critical support for whatever will help the bourgeoisie develop the means of production
>it's in my long term class interests.only tangentially. are you willing to die over the abstract, long term impact of the free flow of labor to the united states? if your answer is yes, you're either stupid or depressed
>>2666290>Even if they're hustlers or gusanos, I think it levels the playing field between teh core and periphery and undermines imperialismWrong. Imperialist migration is imperialist variable and comprador capital accumulation as consequence of material law of uneven development
>>2666305>if we really do make way more money for the same job than the rest of the worldno. american workers are more productive because the means of production are more developed. a guy working at a modern steel mill is substantially more productive than the same guy working at an old steel mill, it's a matter of snlt
>as I constantly get told on hereno you don't. that's a liberal-conservative strawman of what socialists say
>isn't that, indirectly, a form of wealth redistribution from the core to the periphery?it isn't indirect, if you send money from A to B that's a direct transfer. and the person sending that money had to work (sell their labor) for it, so in the best case scenario it isn't a redistribution but trade (money for labor) and because it is labor, if there is a redistribution happening, it is the other way around, in the form of profits
and you are completely missing the point. there is no ethical consumption under capitalism, you don't change the system by choosing to work at this or that other company, or buying this or that brand, consumer politics aren't real: if you want to overthrow capitalism you have to organize and take concrete
collective actions to replace it with some other system. that's real politics, just buy whatever you want
Rise up, Burgers
The time is now
Rate of exploitation is higher in burgerland than in less developed worlds o algo
>>2666324>no you don't. that's a liberal-conservative strawman of what socialists sayIt's also what TWists say lol.
>>2666297yeah but it's probably not going to have a rapid and apocalyptic collapse since that is not the statistical norm for imperial collapse.
>>2666345America is not normal
>>2666312thank you for explaining, i have nothing to add
>>2666349empires in general aren't "normal" but one can observe trends in their collapses, which tend to be slow and boring rather than rapid and apocalyptic.
>>2666291the funniest thing to me is the meme that tariffs will reindustrialize without factories getting built
>>2666351Normal for an empire
>>2666352There have been more factory closes under the imposition of tariffs than before
>>2666266>>2666276>>2666279Well lets hope that's true, I need enough time to either be an S++ tier marxist survivalist or flee to a real country like China or something
>>2666287didn't someone on here say ilhan omar is a shill for turkey who denies the armenian genocide or something? i like that she's anti zionist but if that's true trump's gonna use her as an example of corruption (he would have done that anyway, and also ironic considering israel's much stronger lobby).
>>2666355>>2666359If Walz actually did cave that wouldn't really change the situation on the ground, if anything it would just make the protesters and rapid response groups more radicalized and probably call for Walz's head alongside Trump and Bovino's. An opportune time for leftists on the ground if I do say so myself
>>2666360The protestors will be at the mercy of at best a disinterested state authority complying with federal demands to uphold civil order.
No more general strikes!
Fight for your rights, yanks
Do not submit
>>2666370I've been eating too much burger and so I am immobilized.
>>2666354>criminals they uave in their posessionDoes he mean custody?
>>2666370No, i will not be fighting for bourgeois rights. I will not abandon class terrain.
>>2666397New album incoming
>>2666354He sure seems to be cucking out
>>2666411He's lobotomized himself with cat videos and tiktok dances
>>2666397He's a billionaire rapper. I always felt like his meltdowns about jews were a psy op to help slander people attacking zionism. Then again he seems genuinely mentally ill when it comes to other things
>>2666408this guy reminds me of those people, two schizos in montana thought the other guy was a federal agent and they got shot.
>>2666425I think he just says controversial shit whenever he feels like his relevance is fading. Dude is cluster-B as fuck.
>>2666408they believe the civil war is already here so they're accelerating it into existence. the confederates did the same thing. they literally thought lincoln was an actual abolitionist like john brown or thadeus stevens instead of a milquetoast freesoiler, so they freely soiled their pants and attacked fort sumter
>>2666354he's
been cucking. it's all he does. he was kamala's VP candidate. first thing he did when the protests started was mobilize the national guard against his constituents. he's their lil pet.
>>2666429I wonder if he has marketing guys who are like "Yeezy, they aren't googling your name anymore, tweet that you're going to go defcon 3 on jews again."
>>2666397>Black Hitler sorry he’s been off his medsWatch, in another few months he’ll be back on his bullshit but it will be about Somalis.
>>2666430>>2666427I mean there's no real communist insurgency in Minneapolis or anywhere else in the country yet, but I'm all in favor of them creating the conditions that favor them simply through being bumbling retards
Some people truly do see protests as simply an excuse to build their own activist cv, huh?
>>2666434The time has come, deploy our finest Antifa super soldiers
>>2666437It gets worse than even that
>>2666287>>2666354so, now tim walz
works for donnie? he's a
good leader? he will make Minnesota
rich?
>>2666287Let’s be real, this is all about him seething about Ilhan Omar and her existing in that state.
americas economic conditions is getting closer to russia during early 1900s. I know people here are cynical about america but they shouldnt be, things are getting interesting
GOP gubernatorial candidate and lawyer for ICE agent who killed Renee Good drops out MN governor race, appears to leave GOP, stating he cannot support GOP’s ”stated retribution on the citizens of our state, nor can I count myself a member of a party that would do so.”https://www.startribune.com/chris-madel-ends-gop-bid-for-governor-says-he-cant-support-federal-retribution-against-minnesota/601570793
>Republican Chris Madel made a stunning exit from the Minnesota governor’s race on Jan. 26, saying he cannot support the national GOP’s “stated retribution on the citizens of our state, nor can I count myself a member of a party that would do so.”
>In a surprise video announcement, the Minneapolis attorney said he supported the originally stated goals of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s operation in Minnesota, including the deportation of undocumented immigrants with serious criminal records, but the effort has “expanded far beyond its stated focus on true public safety threats.”
>…His comments come as some other Republicans in Minnesota and Washington have started to distance themselves from the Trump administration’s immigration crackdown in the state. Madel said ICE’s Operation Metro Surge will be a political liability for any candidate running statewide this fall.
>“National Republicans have made it nearly impossible for a Republican to win a statewide election in Minnesota,” he said.
>…He launched his campaign for governor as a staunch defender of law enforcement and had recently provided legal counsel to Jonathan Ross, the ICE agent who shot and killed Renee Good in Minneapolis on Jan. 7.
>…At the end of the day, Madel said, “I have to look my daughters in the eye and tell them, ‘I believe I did what was right.’ And I am doing that today.” >>2666452>americas economic conditions is getting closer to russia during early 1900s.Not in the slightest. LMAO.
>>2666452>americas economic conditions is getting closer to russia during early 1900sno
>I know people here are cynical about america but they shouldnt be, things are getting interestingyes
>>2666451Prisons are a liberal proposition
>>2666452>>2666454they did specify "economic conditions", bc the labor movement is deader than ever and not only in the US
>>2666458it's onboarding.
>>2666461Focus more on offboarding instead
Americans.
american protest movements are liberal right now but thats because its the beginning
They will remain liberal and be a nothingburger if the situation gets fixed.
If they dont get fixed and things keep getting worse for the next 20 years
>>2666281>people talk about ice but would you risk your life for open borders?Trying to frame it like this is how I know you're a retard
Not "would you risk your life for your neighbor", not "would you risk your life to get the gestapo out of your city". Instantly defaulting to this. You need to die.
>>2666450You’re right, it’s not outlandish enough to attract the attention he craves. It will probably be a full 180 where he becomes a black Zionist.
graham platner is trying to capitalize on the protests to boost his campaign.
>>2666281>le open bordersBro, kys
>>2666483Obliterate the borders
>>2666436there won't be a communist insurgency in this country any time soon. What I see in the short term is a fundamentally conservative democrat "resistance" (yes) aimed at restoring muh norms and pushing back against "extremism and polarization on both sides" i.e. "put away your hammers, sickles, and swastikas, and get back to work and be polite." If they become militant at all (they probably won't) it won't be militantly communist. It will be very blue-maga-retvrn-to-obama pilled. It won't be Stalin's anti-fascism but rather Churchill's "anti" fascism.
>>2666493Fuck off with your doomer bullshit.
>>2666493> What I see in the short term is a fundamentally conservative democrat "resistance" (yes) aimed at restoring muh norms and pushing back against "extremism and polarization on both sides"which is probably going to fail and lead to further radicalization. These things take time.
>>2666493The problem with this line of thought is that it ignores how people have increasingly woken up to the reality that "returning to normal" is what got us Trump in the first place. Standard liberal bullshit doesn't cut it anymore with the average American. Bush and Obama created the conditions that allowed the rise of Trump and even the liberals realize that now
>>2666494hes not wrong about it initially being that but in the long term its just going to radicalize people. I just dont see things going back the way they were
>>2666485First question from the "journalists":
>The left is so outraged about these criminals being killed, but where was their outrage when an airforce veteran named Ashli Babbit was heinously murdered by capitol policelol
>>2666495>These things take time.yes, I agree, hence "anytime soon"
>>2666494it's not doomer, it's a realistic recognition that we have more work to do. If I were dooming I would be telling you it's all pointless, nothing ever happens, don't even try. Obviously I'm not saying that. I'm basing my take off of years of talking to "normie" Americans and gauging their attitudes.
>>2666498Correct.
>>2666499We don’t mourn her because she’s with Charlie Kirk and Jeffrey Epstein now.
>>2666485>>2666499Ms. Bondi, Boo T. Licker here, from the Epoch Times, my question is, why is the president's penis so big, and how did he get so good at pleasuring women?
>>2666509>>2666506I need maximum chaos. things must keep crashing
>>2666506she's a wide woman
>>2666493the 'old guard' that controls the democratic party are still conservative-aligned but once they get thrown out by the new generation the party will get more extreme at the same time the republicans are getting more extreme, there's no turning back the clock on any of this
>>2666487The democrats have routed with Walz's concession, and as a result Minnesota will be hollowed
>Insufficient evidenceLmao
>>2666509>>2666510Leavitt can clearly see where the tide is turning and is trying her damnedest to reign things in a little but I doubt Miller and Bovino are going to go along with it, if anything they'll keep escalating and doing that Grima Wormtongue shit with Trump encouraging him to invoke the insurrection act
>>2666516this really is the rawest quote of all time
>>2666268marginalists literally think the supreme brick is worth more than actual construction supplies for example
redeem ICE.
ICE rehabilitation.
>>2666512the current generation of politicians are boomers, they will not be flushed out until they die out in like 10 to 20 years. Expect them to keep their vise grip on politics until then because they are by far the largest most wealthy cohort in the country at the moment, and they have every stake in keeping the system as it is until they die off. This is similar to the problem in the late USSR, where it was the politicians who grew up during WWII who by and large were the politicians who ruled the country until Gorbachev took over as a polician of the next generation… and look what happened lol
>>2666519There is no backpedalling, it is just institutional damage control having cracked all official resistance within Minnesota.
With every murder that occurs they will double down knowing that resistance must be met by the overwhelming use of force
>>2666528Except they haven't cracked the resistance in Minnesota at all, if anything the protests and strikes are only accelerating. Entire blocks have been turned into autonomous zones where the feds cant get in and the people of Minneapolis have a coordinated signal network to stay two steps ahead of the pigs. The insurgency will continue and you will like it
>>2666530Official resistance, i.e. state governance
They do not give two shits if Minnesota is racked by protests as it's the rationale for further crackdowns, playing into their hands
>>2666519>>2666519>>2666506the
trumpedo is feeling uneasy hoax main ideologue revealed. she's covering trumpedos actions with words words words. the reality is that trumpedo can fire bovino, border czar, and bondie.
he won't, so whatever the wh spokesperson says is meaningless.
>>2666534Why are Dems so much older?
>>2666523You vill help lay the high speed rail line, build high quality rent controlled/free apartments and revitalize ze native ecosystems.
>>2666534after the civil war efforts must be made to politically disenfranchise the old. If I can get my 78 year old grandma's license taken away because she has dementia and her driving endangers other people (yes I did that), then we should do the same thing to our politicians.
>>2666536even the party's older. it's weird that the GOP is called the "Grand Old Party" when they're 40 years younger than the Dems.
>>2666530This is our chance to keep goading the fascist cancer into conflict with us. This is the only way to keep growing. We have to keep absorbing a constant flow of energy from struggle. There is a nucleus of consciousness now, and it must learn and grow. Goading the fascists into steady and controlled conflict will provide unprecedented nourishment
Reminder that this will be a big nothing burger if the liberals come in and fix everything
Luckily they wont. It will be starmer and biden 2.0
They’re showing their backside with this waffling so applying maximum pressure would be good right about now.
not to be "muh streamer" but how the fuck does Mike from PA get any kind of clout for having the worst opinions and cowardly behavior i've ever seen. i wish nothing but bad things on him.
>>2666549I haven't paid attention to him in like 3 years but from what I remember, his main issues are being insecure, holding grudges, being self centered, and having anger issues in general. He's way too aggro, doesn't groom himself, and tries to foster a cult of personality for some reason.
Which sucks because he actually does have legitimate talent. He just can't calm the fuck down.
>>2666514You think? I'm starting to think they want to turn Bovino into some sort of fall guy depending on how whether protests intensify in Minnesota and are laying the groundwork for it in case it's necessary
>>2666551a friend of mine sent me his stream, i tune in, and he's riling his viewers up saying "you need to tell them we get fair elections or its civil war"
when i know that this slimy fuck isn't about to take up arms and is just wanting people to sacrifice themselves in his stead
>>2666531The beauty and true gems of the article:
>And he barely sleeps.>brushes off any suggestion that he should get more rest. “I think five hours is plenty,” he said. “I find that when I’m really enjoying myself, I sleep less.”>“He eats a ton of candy, and he eats meat,”>“unhinged” eating habits>He doesn’t believe in exercise>legs and ankles owing to his circulatory condition, doctors recommended he walk more. He asked his staff if there was anything else he could do instead.>“Who is healthier, Obama or President Trump?” I asked.>Trump stared across the desk, making eye contact with Jones. Jones didn’t hesitate.>“President Trump,” he said.this person is insane. trump is literally insane.
>>2666554tbh it's true old people sleep less on average
>>2666531>>2666554Trump is 79 years. Genetics are bullshit.
>>2666556Wait until he learns about Guantanamo
>>2666512there are young bourgeois opportunists in both parties willing to take up the mantle of neoliberalism. You can watch in real time as even "left" democrats like AOC get groomed into your future pelosis. People forget Kyrsten Sinema used to be the "AOC" back in the late 90s with the anti-WTO protests.
>>2666560the best recruitment tool for anti-American causes will always be America's actions
>>2666536this:
>>2666546the young democrats are waaay more progressive and more active than their elder boomer centrist democrats.
young republicans
>>2666354>"The Minnesota Department of Corrections honors all federal and local detainers by notifying Immigration and Customs Enforcement when a person committed to its custody isn’t a U.S. citizen. There is not a single documented case of the department’s releasing someone from state prison without offering to ensure a smooth transfer of custody," he wrote.While it's possible, I haven't seen anything that indicates he's folded yet. It's just the standard thing that world leaders do where Trump rips up a deal, screams about wanting a new one, and then whomever he's talking to says "you're such a good deal maker Mister Trump! How about this: [quotes the previous deal verbatim]. Have I mentioned your cock is way bigger than mine?" and then Trump goes for it.
We'll see for sure in the coming days, but that's my read. If he was doing everything Pam Bondi wanted including handing over voter rolls we would have heard about it.
>>2666558no, it's about the same as normal adults. also, you need fucking 7 to 9 hours as adult. minimum 6, because that's where the REM sleep starts, and the regenerative and healing hormones are produced thanks to the endocrine organs. no sunlight, the sun interrupts the process, triggers 'wake me up' reaction in the brain and in the endocrine system.
tl:dr, trump is killing himself and he probably is severely brain damaged.
>Trump said. “At a certain age, about 86, 87, he started getting, what do they call it?” He pointed to his forehead and looked to his press secretary for the word that escaped him.>“Alzheimer’s,” Leavitt said.>“Like an Alzheimer’s thing,” Trump said. “Well, I don’t have it.”>“Is it something you think about at all?” I asked.>“No, I don’t think about it at all. You know why?” he said. “Because whatever it is, my attitude is whatever.”he thinks that he's invincible, he's a moron.
>>2666566>they're christiansthe west is saved! phew! 😌
>>2666566dallas is full snow right now. either old, or not in the US, but it's in anglosphere country, as the yellow band clearly says 'caution'.
>>2666571The language is pretty clear, Walz will work with Trump in a joint prosecution of the state's criminals. Taken in conjunction with
>>2666487 under the guise of welfare fraud, he has effectively conceded.
>>2666582>>2666354>>2666571BASED BASED BASED BASED.
THE LIBERALS NEED TO DISCREDITE THEMSELVES LIKE THE RIGHT WING. ONLY THEN CAN CHANGE HAPPEN
BASED BASED BASEDBASED
>>2666582How is this a concession, serious question? He's doing the same thing that has been federally mandated for years and years. What new element is being added to existing procedures that would constitute a cave?
>>2666397>my nazi behavior was due to brain damageoh, I'll assume all nazis, reactionaries, and them types are all braindamaged people.
>>2666582walz literally said that everything bondie asked is something they have been providing since always for years.
listen the video.
>>2666324>american workers are more productive because the means of production are more developed.That's surprising. Maybe not anymore, but my impression several years ago was that American factories, outside a few bespoke industries, were full of ancient equipment that the owners refused to upgrade. Also the country runs on rickety old infrastructure from the New Deal and it takes forever to build anything and there's usually massive cost overruns.
Mike Walz can't fold because he had folded already, Mike Walz has nothing on the table and really he can't do much to begin with short of shooting protestors himself.
>>2666281> people talk about ice but would you risk your life for open borders?borders are a pretense, you'd think by now retards on this board would have understood this
>>2666599>borders are a pretense, you'd think by now retards on this board would have understood thisThere's a certain subgenre of anon who like to play dumb and say that, because AES nations like the USSR and PRC have historically had strong anti-immigration policies, to protect themselves from brain drain and sabotage, that the imperialist US is somehow justified in their so-called "strong border" policies which are not actually anti-immigration, or anti "scab" as these anons pretend, but are actually just a mass terror campaign which targets not only undocumented immigrants, but legal citizens, legal residents, asylum seekers, and so forth.
>>2666506I thought Renee Good was a domestic terrorist though? Bellies exposed with this backtracking.
>>2666601vance already categorized them both as terrorists, so not backing down there. she's running the psyops to save trumpedo's face. that's all.
>>2666282TBF Mamdani is literally hitler for this. Let the kids have a snow day.
>>2666590the industry and infrastructure situations may not be ideal, but what still exists will always have access to the newest technology thanks to americans innovation, which is the biggest separator today between the imperialists and the periphery. thankfully China is now challenging them on that front so its an advantage that will soon be lost
>>2666290Completely backwards. Underpaid migrant workers make imperial core prices lower and the RoP higher thus sustaining the whole imperialist project.
>>2666282This has to be a satire account surely.
>>2666584Meeting with Trump on the matter of welfare fraud is an implicit admission of the need to allow a federal review of state expenditure; it is essentially inviting the vampire in, as it will be used by the Republicans as further leverage. This is a conciliatory stance in an attempt to appease Trump under the mounting pressures for both sides; that Leavitt is working to change the appearance of the situation could signal a like for like bargain struck in de-escalating ICE operations in Minnesota but not a pull out.
The fact that he's sending one of his goons to oversee the situation is also blatant evidence that some level of interference is taking place. Trump has turned Minnesota into a cauldron in which he need merely turn up the heat in cutting further federal grants and arraigning his opponents on legal grounds in order to boil the lobster whole.
>Barbarism has reached inside and outside the Amerikkkan hemisphere.
>Literally no one is fighting back, besides those getting pepper-sprayed and killed by the Amerikkkan gestapo
Don't wanna sound like a fed but give me some good news, bros. I wanna believe that this isn't that BLM that will fizzle out
>>2666613Way more likely to fizzle out. What is their demands other than ICE leaving Minnesota? BLM was demanding reforms at least.
>>2666584>>2666610That is my read; that the white house is running damage control by shifting the narrative from its immediate labelling of both murder victims as left wing agitators could be to simply put out the small fires by changing optics.
The situation must be judged for what it is: it is a question of the extent to which gains have been made, not if.
>>2666613>>2666614It’s not about their demands, it’s about ICE’s demands.
>>2666614>>2666613im sorry anon but this movement isnt it. It will just be a stepping stone
>>2666612Hopefully it takes less than 50 years.
We already have a good amount of studies showing that rightoids are psychopaths.
>>2666600>but are actually just a mass terror campaign which targets not only undocumented immigrantsthey are also themselves criminal enterprises, and CBP agents fashion themselves as smuggling brokers. it is unironically a net loss for the average burger, because border protection in the burgerreich mostly exist to keep this useless terror organization financed. if you went back in time 30 years ago and told people that there was going to be a militarized police force in charge of pursuing literal civil offenses, they would have called you insane.
>>2666613it's bound to fizzle out because there's no real organization in the ground to support a sustained resistance.
>>2666613I think a lot of Americans are still coping and believe that all this can be solved by voting.
>>2666610>Meeting with Trump on the matter of welfare fraud is an implicit admission of the need to allow a federal review of state expenditureNo? People meeting with Trump on the dumb bullshit Trump wants a meeting on isn't necessarily conciliatory in any fashion. You go there to call him a Big Boss and verbally stroke his cock a bit until he forgets what it was he actually wanted out of a deal and then offer him the exact same deal he already had. Multiple world leaders have done this exact thing to him multiple times already.
>The fact that he's sending one of his goons to oversee the situation is also blatant evidence that some level of interference is taking place. Trump can do this anyway without any of Walz's permission, he's a member of the Federal Government. Saying "yes" to "can I send one of my flunkies to walk around and do nothing" is a zero-risk politically free way to get Trump to shut up because he feels like he's getting a "new deal" when it's just the deal he already had.
I'm not saying Walz is a tactical genius or that it won't come out that he actually did cave on something important, but neither of these things indicate that he folded, especially since Trump's most damaging play—access to Minnesota's voter rolls—was publicly shut down with no indication of a backroom deal.
>>2666621>>2666626The option of fizzling is no longer theirs
>>2666627They are. Reality will give them a dirty hand soon enough.
Texas governor calls for ICE to ”recalibrate”https://archive.is/OsFLb>Gov. Greg Abbott reacted to the latest events out of Minnesota and revealed that the White House "is working on a game plan" to recalibrate Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
>Abbott made the comments on the Mark Davis Show on Monday, Jan 26, while speaking on the podcast about the Texas winter storm, the state's upcoming primaries and the protests in Minnesota. When asked by Davis whether he was "concerned that ICE's popularity ratings are going down," Abbott responded that the White House needs to recalibrate.
>"They, being the White House, need to recalibrate on what needs to be done to make sure that respect is going to be reinstilled," Abbott said on the podcast. "That's not an easy task, especially under the current circumstances, but I know that they (the White House) are working on a game plan to make sure that they are going to …recalibrate and maybe work from a different direction to ensure that they get back to get what they wanted to do to begin with — and that is to remove people from the country."Interesting, interesting.
>>2666566Are they retarded? They are carrying crosses
>>2666631>im scared of whistles and loud noisesVIRILE
>>2666634Ol' hotwheels just doesn't want too much scrutiny on the giant detention camps here
>>2666637>Are they retarded?Do you really need to ask?
>>2666566Who is paying these faggot influencers to push obvious bullshit? Ten thousand lashes for anyone who has ever made a tweet.
>>2666634this is going to be the end point of this "movement". dems will co opt the radical energy of the protests calling for abolishing ICE, they'll water down the message to "reform ICE", people will be pressured into voting for that. ICE budget and operations will be doubled
>>2666470The libs have already moved from le peace and hugging ICE officers to collectively wanting to hang them in a few days
>>2666637>>2666644oh my GOD IS THAT BROWN PEOPLLLEE??????
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<AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA >>2666628>isn't necessarily conciliatory in any fashionIt clearly is: to restate the premise, the Republicans will just double down in their justification of ICE's presence in the state, using the hysteria over welfare fraud to drive the wedge Walz has allowed for them further open.
That Walz is walking at all the line of previous compliance in a sustained denial is an attempt to outlast events, which will not happen. This is a loss for him, and that a call at all took place is a sign that an agreement has been struck at some level. Faced with the pressures of civil unrest and an isolated support based from his own party, any inch conceded by the governor will be turned into a mile. Eventually subsidies to the farmers of Minnesota must be reinstated and the rule of law restored.
>>2666612I don't think any liberal government in the future will draw any conclusions disqualifying the sub-humans they breed. And a socialist government will be much to bound by actual science and post-revolution amnesties to draw these conclusions.
Just saying that, if you wanna justify the much deserved purging of these people, the window is limited. A post-revolution society will need stability, the time for grievances and score-settling is *before* your side wins.
>>2666622A lot has been made of lead poisoning in Boomers, but I genuinely want to know what effect DDT exposure had on Gen X and how much this effects our current society.
>>2666625>>2666631noise sensitivity is a symptom of autism btw
>>2666634I keep telling people that they're setting up this Bovino retard to be the temporary fall guy to relief some of the tension, they're going to imply that his heart is in the right place but he went a little too far maybe and Hofman, the Obama guy, is doing things "the right way". What's left to be seen is whether ICE agents, which are violent degenerates, will understand the message and simmer down temporarily.
>>2666650You keep saying this but you aren't actually stating how the situation has materially changed. If liberals don't agree with you that this is a "vibes based loss," which they don't seem to at all, then what materially changes about the situation? Is the expectation that Walz would tell Trump to suck his dick and Trump would cover and pull ICE out of Minnesota instantly? Because it's very clear that Trump won't do that unless civil unrest makes mission objectives essentially impossible, and perhaps not even then. Trump was never going to leave because of the actions of the state of Minnesota, so I don't understand how you're spinning No Movement as a concession.
>>2666566at first I figured it kind of made sense that mammon worshiping seppo prots wouldn't recognise prayer shawls that went out of fashion in catholic circles in the 80s, but then I saw that everything was emblazoned with crucifixes.
whitey is just racist.
>>2666647Possibly. People would probably be content if Miller, Noem and/or Bovino were sacrificed. Look for any signs suggesting this direction.
>>2666659>>2666660Imagine thinking any of these people know the history of their religion or even go to church anyway.
>>2666594> can't fold because he had folded already,this makes no sense. did he deliver the documents requested? bondie would be making a public televised party out of it.
listen, If the DOJ wants to pursue fraud in the medicaid/snaps programs, the usual route is to work with CMS/USDA program regulatory institutions, obtain targeted records and subpoenas, and pursue criminal referrals in the required targets. that's the federal-state law relationship here. under biden up to +70 people were indicted and sentenced to jail under federal requests and process.
it seems to me that Minnesota is being either targeted because of walz being walz, because it's a testing ground, or as an excuse to enact the insurrection act.
>>2666657That’s my takeaway too. Bovino, maybe Miller, maybe Noem. Homan is sent to straighten things out. I suspect the Chamber of Commerce letter had an effect.
Get and Trump dies this year
>>2666663Exactly this. People that think this constitutes a "fold" have absolutely no idea what's actually being asked for politically.
>"oh dude he totally caved by meeting with Trump and agreeing to let some random retard walk around Minnesota and bark at Meal Team 6"The endgame is civil unrest and election interference, not prosecuting criminals that Minnesota was already going to send them.
>>2666666Cheeeeecked. Ganbatte double satan.
>>2666625oh, poor babies.
*brings in a vuvuzuela instead*
>>2666656Yeah exactly. High autism score.
>>2666674From what I recall reading, there is certainly a clique in the WH lead by Miller arguing that any recalibration would be tantamount to ”capitulation to the left”. Could go either way of course.
>>2666674They'll just purge the recalcitrants like they did for the military during the Venezuela smo
>>2666681Do you guys ever wonder what Hitler would have thought of his strongest agent in the US being a jew
>>2666690it's cool that this is considered the symptom of a mental disorder by normal people
>>2666681Seems like the Miller Clique is our best bet at accelerating the contradictions then, as long as we've around our chances of creating a genuine strong leftist movement are a lot better
>>2666674again with the 'unease' propaganda, lmaoooo
lib media sucks. if trump or anyone on the leadership is angry or whatever, they'll be firing people.
>>2666666Checked
Predictions, trump dying. Will this completely implode the right wing project? Vance will ascend to the throne but I don’t see how he will keep the trump cargo cult going. Also and I might be wrong, I don’t see Vance having the ability or will to cancel elections. I really think Biden fucked up the possibility of fascism in the U.S by just time only. My prediction is a slow decline into “managed democracy”
Trump's death with be the most exhilarating and politically rejuvenating day-week-maybe even month if it happens in a timely matter (say at least 5-8 years from now.)
>>2666702heart attack and shits himself during big speech
>>2666698Sure but It would be stupid to assume there is no intense inner fighting right now. Theres a few people in his cabinet willing to politically suicide but most of these people want to walk out of this presidency with a career afterwards.
>>2666666I hope it happens in the middle of a press conference as he's rambling on about stuff unrelated to whatever the press conference is about.
>>2666674this time people will go against trump
>>2666699Vance is an anthropomorphized wet fart with zero charisma and zero ability to boss people around. He'll flounder and eventually be shitcanned by the electorate as more and more people point out that he's a puppet of a gay billionaire which nobody will want because half the voters will hear "gay" and the other half will hear "billionaire."
There will be lots of churn while the Republican party attempts to find someone else with The Sauce, but there are no immediate front-runners present, which might allow decent time for people to break through the stranglehold Centrist Democrats currently have on progressivism.
>>2666704right after he finishes a quip about mcdonald's not being as good as it used to
>>2666674>sicko fandid they mean sycophant? lmfao burger officials are illiterate
>>2666590you have fallen for the memes. if you look at the statistics, american workers accross all industries are well above the global average in terms of productiveness. if that's too boring for you, watch one of those videos about how things are made and you will see that american factories have high degrees of automation, which increases the productivity of the remaining human workers
>>2666705nonsense. oliver north had a career after, and he was the most publicly humiliated official after wwii. even nixon had presidential advisory positions after his resignation. john bolton had a career even after threatening to kill UN people's families and getting fired by the dubya's administration for that reckless behavior. the US political system and political class reward losers.
>>2666713When do u think the last time Trump and Ivanka had sex was? LMAO
>>2666715Probably but "sicko fan" is a lot more fitting
>>2666717Oliver north got downgraded to being a t.v host on fox. They did try running him for senate, like 2 years after Iran contra. But you’re mostly right, the worst consequences a politician faces in this country is having to become a media personality.
>>2666715>meant sycophant>typed sicko fanThat's so awesome holy shit
>>2666717Where do you reckon someone like Kristi Neom will go? I'm not arguing against what you're saying, but I GENUINELY can't comprehend some of these retards doing anything politically meaningful afterwards.
>>2666727Newsmax contributors or consultants / lobbyists in the private sector, most likely.
>>2666727Maybe she'll go back to South Dakota and run for Senator.
>>2666451prisons are a waste of money
bring back firing squads
>>2666720Pistol whipping may leave unusual lacerations on the body of the injured due to various protruding details of the pistol. When blows are struck using the butt of the weapon rather than its barrel or flank, semicircular or triangular lacerations on the skin may be produced. The magazine well at the bottom of a semi-automatic pistol and its surrounding base produce rectangular lacerations on the skin.These lacerations can vary in depth and severity, but "whipped" fractures are common. The skin underneath the "whipped" area often will not present with bruising because the skin is split and not crushed.
>>2666735Alex Pretti didn't actually die due to an ICE officer magdumping him, it was just the inner bleeding from the pistol whipping. Just like how Kirk's neck *actually* just did that, the media must portray it as something else. SMH
>>2666662America is truly unique in this regard and even Engels noticed how abhorred the American is to anything theoretical. For Christians the closest thing would be theology. I was raised a Roman Catholic in Yurop and spent like 15 years studying theology from kindergarten onwards. You are expected to be able to explain the core tenets and history of your religion. In America it's just like "Jesus is whatever I want him to be" and that's how you basically end up with an embourgeoisified Christianity. In political theory Americans are the same. No need for theory informing praxis and praxis shaping theory. It's just I do whatever the fuck and we'll get there eventually. (And obv what "there" is supposed to be gets erased by an embourgeoisified political activity.)
The American scholars I've read linked this mentality of Americans to the settlers wanting to get rid of everything they hated in the Old World, but in the process you guys got rid of a shitton of good stuff as well.
But this is I think the truly radical core of the American project: you didn't just get rid of appeals to the holy authority of the Church, the academics, the scribes, the philosophers, you got rid of having reference points altogether in the organization of thought. Postmodernity started with the settlers and reached its logical conclusionin in this post-truth world where my ignorance is as good as your supposed knowledge but also who cares because if something works it works.
Ironically, American pragmatism ended up the most conservative force in modern history, for it can not look beyond the immediate functioning of a system or a process or a movement, just fetishizes that *it works* or *goes on* or *sizzles* and that's an end ull be all of everything and trying to entertain in theory what purpose it objectively serves is shunned upon.
You people actively ban European posters who completely correctly predicted the outcomes of BLM having had the right theoretical approach to analysing it, simply because the conclusion does not fit your pragmato-fetishism. You guys are blinded by faux-praxis , nit being able to recognize that nothing genuine is happening and that only the same thing keeps repeating itself over and over without any hope of rupture.
There's no qualitative change, no quantitative change. The American "left" has been for 50+ years repackaging the '68 formulas into OWS to Bernie to BLM to Minneapolis. It's the same big promises and slogand (,ideology) and big ass nothingburgers on the delivery front.
>>2666738not reading all that
>>2666738ive debated far righters who have basically admitted that anyone who poses a challenge to the state deserves to be executed. They're pretty forward that they genuinely believe the historic mission of Trump is to deport all migrant workers (lets be honest, the US needs migrant workers to function so this is really about terrorizing people) and anyone who opposes faces death. It honestly reminds me of a lot of third would bougeioise nationalisms.
>>2666741don't bother, it's just idealist ramblings about americans being spiritually illiterate or whatever
from a materialist perspective, the american pragmatism arose from their circumstances (unfettered capitalism) and it works, it's a productive way of looking at things, so it thrives
>>2666605> but what still exists will always have access to the newest technology thanks to americans innovationit's actually thanks to quick monopolization of nascent industries, the US uses its exorbitant privilege to enforce brutal monopolies across the entire world, through unfair trade agreements, or just flat out sanctioning. even if the US is not the first at something, they will use its dollar hegemony to attract talent and undermine innovation elsewhere. the reason why there's so much noise about AI being a geopolitical priority is because the US needs a brand new monopoly to circle its economy around.
>>2666746Do we know for sure that's who the passengers were? I can't find any information on the occupants, only that the plan was registered to the same address as a law firm that donates to Republicans.
>The firm, which counts Arnold’s wife Tara among its attorneys, has also been a prominent donor to political campaigns through its political action committee, Texans For Truth and Liberty. Together with Texas Trial Lawyers Association, the two PACs gave $268,000 to GOP San Antonio State Rep. Marc LaHood’s campaign. LaHood helped defeat a bill that would have limited lawsuit awards. Truth and Liberty has emerged as a major donor to candidates fighting tort reform measures in the Legislature. >Texas House Speaker Dustin Burrows posted on the social media platform X that he and his wife Elisabeth were keeping all of those affected by the plane crash in their prayers. “May God bring strength, comfort, and peace to every family impacted by this heartbreaking situation,” he wrote. >>2666727podcast. hired by an ultracorpo in some bullshit job as thanks for some favor. consultant for a think thank. theres all sorts of shit she could go to
>>2666752As an artist and comic enjoyer myself these people make me so fucking angry.
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>>2666748Wait… you're telling me that the "Americans don't read theory" Poster believes that his own ramblings are up to the same standards of rigor as actual theory?
If that is the case, he's just as narcissistic as the stereotypical American he attempts to denigrate.
>>2666748America is thriving, sure dude. Pragmatism really bringin those tasty results.
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An interesting article on supposed cracks emerging inside WH. From The Daily Beast so worth taking with a grain of salt, but it sounds like they might sacrifice Bovino and Noem while retaining Miller. Not sure how Miller could reasonably present anyone else as being the problem when he is first to throw around labels like domestic terrorist. Anyway:
>President Donald Trump’s senior leadership team is blaming Kristi Noem for their nightmare in Minneapolis after they say her incompetence as Homeland Security secretary paved the way for Saturday’s shooting of yet another U.S. citizen.
>At the heart of their frustrations is Border Patrol commander Gregory Bovino, Noem’s “commander at large,” whom she chose to serve as the public face of the president’s immigration blitz. Bovino had repeatedly raised eyebrows with his aggressive tactics even before members of his “Green Machine” were filmed on Saturday throwing 37-year-old VA nurse Alex Pretti to the ground and unloading bullets into him, horrifying the U.S. public.
>Polls suggest voters were already weary of seeing Bovino’s masked and armed federal agents marauding around the country, violently detaining people, including children, and brutalizing demonstrators. The public blowback saw Trump, 79, send his border czar, Tom Homan, to the city on Monday to oversee on-the-ground immigration enforcement operations, in a move widely seen as a snub to Homeland Security Secretary Noem, 54.
>It comes after well-placed DHS sources told the Daily Beast that both the president’s chief of staff, Susie Wiles, 68, and his immigration policy lead, Stephen Miller, 40, have fully turned against Noem and her chief adviser and rumored lover, Corey Lewandowski, 52.
>According to two senior officials, Miller is furious that Bovino, 55, and his hardcore “turn and burn” tactics were chosen to become the focal point of the nationwide blitz.
>The result has seen a splintering among the Trump administration’s senior leadership. While Wiles, 68, simply “doesn’t like” Noem, Miller now views Noem, Lewandowski, and Bovino as a “liability,” the official said.
>The administration finds itself in a bind, though, because its senior officials believe Noem is incapable of running DHS without Lewandowski at her side—and that unwinding the whole trio risks making Trump look like he is retreating, which immigration hardliner Miller is keen to avoid.
>Noem and Lewandowski are thought to have been due to leave of their own volition this month before the Jan. 7 killing of protester Renee Nicole Good, 37, by ICE agent Jonathan Ross, 43, changed everything.
>Officials believe Noem had informally agreed with Trump to step down after roughly a year—taking Lewandowski and their ally, former ICE Deputy Director Madison Sheahan, 28, with her—so the White House could claim she had finished building the deportation machine he demanded.
>“Then Renee Good was shot dead, and it threw everything in the air,” one source told the Beast. Sheahan abruptly announced her resignation in the wake of that shooting, saying on Jan. 15 that she was leaving to launch a House run in Ohio—a move ICE staffers “rejoiced” over, according to multiple DHS officials.
>Her rapid exit—and the quiet sidelining of her “minions”—was read as the opening act of the Noem and Lewandowski clear-out. One well-placed source pointed to Sheahan’s slick launch video for her congressional bid as evidence of a planned, Trump-blessed, coordinated exit.https://www.thedailybeast.com/dhs-ice-barbie-kristi-noem-thin-ice-donald-trump-stephen-miller-gregory-bovino-miscalculation/>>2666752I also like how right wingers spent the last, some 40 last years increasingly becoming bloodthirsty psychos threatening and demanding the murder of libtards and then act shocked the rhetoric comes back to them. Not that I’m counting on it or believe it would happen but I hope there is a sustained and violent backlash against the right once the dust settles.
Get up stand up
>>2666756>As an artist and comic enjoyer myself these people make me so fucking angry.I feel your pain so much, I fucking love Hellblazer and these are the same idiots who freak out fairly cyclically when Constantine bisexuality is mentioned, something that's been common knowledge about him since the early 90's iirc.
>>2666775>>2666756Rightiods either lie about enjoying this or that media or they just out right don’t comprehend it in the first place.
>>2666774That's not what they said. Marx himself barely said anything about America but Engels wrote a bit.
>There were two circumstances which for a long time prevented the unavoidable consequences of the Capitalist system from showing themselves in the full glare of day in America. These were the easy access to the ownership of cheap land, and the influx of immigration. They allowed, for many years, the great mass of the native American population to “retire” in early manhood from wage-labor and to become farmers, dealers, or employers of labor, while the hard work for wages, the position of a proletarian for life, mostly fell to the lot of immigrants. But America has outgrown this early stage. >>2666782usa left will be placated by that
Be honest with me anons.
Is a american centurary of humilation needed before a revolution could happen
>>2666785no but a global crisis is, that's true for all nations though, not just america
>>2666785yes. material conditions for the average burger have to deteriorate much much more before a revolution can happen.
>>2666785Sometimes centuries happen in months, could be a few months of total humiliation
>>2666782They're gonna move to Philadelphia and from little I've seen that city seems even more radical than Minneapolis so hopefully there's actual revolutionary action this time.
>>2666792you misunderstand. the spark is quick. but conditions for the fire take years to arrive.
>>2666789that's true for any country, not just america
>>2666785Yes. Things aren't bad enough to make the sheep care.
Larry Ellison is probably what Satan would look like if he were real.
>>2666785Humiliation of the American proletariat has occurred for over two centuries now. It’s the bourgeoisie that requires humiliation at this point in time.
>>2666750Fun fact, Marc Lahood is the brother of Nico Lahood, former District Attorney of San Antonio who recently helped one of the pigs who stood around while kids got gunned down in Uvalde win a "not guilty" verdict in his trial.
>>2666761>immediately bussing the womanThis happens so much but it's still funny every time
>>2666801*oops, Bexar County DA
>>2666782I'll believe it when I see it
>>2666794So what’s the trump regimes plan if they’re prodding has shown they aren’t able to cowed the population of cities? That’s the theory I’ve heard is that all these surges are just feelers for what resistance they’ll face. Or is miller and crew just throwing waves of ICE agents randomly into cities with no real objective besides kidnapping as many people as possible?
>>2666807>That’s the theory I’ve heard is that all these surges are just feelers for what resistance they’ll face. Or is miller and crew just throwing waves of ICE agents randomly into cities with no real objective besides kidnapping as many people as possible?A bit of both with the idea of copying the nazis placed as the overall goal.
>>2666808Organize the Eagles Ultras.
>>2666746 (nta)
>>2666753>>2666759no, the accident did happen. the theory that they are anti-ICE / anti-Trump lawyers, that's been sourced in reddit. the private jet belongs to "the personal injury law firm Arnold and Itkin Trial Lawyers, and one of the law firm's founding partners is listed as the registered agent for the company that owns the plane."
>>2666772totally insane people….
>>2666813no. it didn't happen. it's fake.
>>2666807>>2666809I think that we're forgetting that the Trump administration is both high on their own supply and retarded. I think Trump, Miller, et. al. actually thought that they'd be able to bowl over resistance and accomplish their agenda easily. Remember, these are the same guys that unironically post "hype moments and aura" brownshirt edits to social media.
I think that they're a little bamboozled by the sheer amount of pushback and are attempting to pull a face-saving "let's move on, shall we" maneuver in hopes that it'll just go better next time.
>>2666807Have you heard about the conversions of gigantic warehouses into detention centers being planned? At this point I'm convinced they're trying to crown the murderous burgerreich project. Will they be efficient? Less so than the third reich but it will be murderous all the same.
>>2666782>White House border czar Tom Homansame shit, same people, same thugs. lmao.
as if 'the border czar' was coined out of candid love and fluffy hugs he spreads around.
>>2666817Nazis weren't that efficient tbh, in Rwanda they had the same pace mostly using machetes.
>>2666782top border patrol pig bodine and border czar dick profane
>>2666822next time do that from the start
>>2666832why wouldn't they? It's their ancestral homeland
>>2666833what happened to her
>>2666833Might not be what hapoened but lots of people loose their hands by mistaking flashbangs for teargas grenades while trying to scoop them and send them back, know your grenades people.
>>2666835Finger blown off by flash grenade from what I heard.
>>2666666Wasted. Trump died last year, what you are seeing is a taxidermied robot. Why do you think Elongated Muskrat was brought into the thing?
>>2666841Lol imagine if he dies of eating mickey d's this year and disney has to rush to make a JD Vance animatronic.
>>2666842not believing this yet but it more or less lines with my prediction if true, Hofman is taking the lead in MN
>>2666844Do you think they'll actually change how they're doing things there, even superficially or if they'll just keep cycling out these guys.
>>2666842there goes one of the optics nightmares for ICE i guess
see you space burger
>>2666842Spoilers: Eventually the person doing these things (and recolonizing
Palestine The Gaza Riviera) will be a respectable, accountable, law-abiding and soft-spoken (D)emocrat.
But the TV won't be #resistance pilled and so nobody will care.
>>2666324>>2666590Wrong. Imperialists have owned themselves. Read Marx. More developed machinery makes workers more relatively unproductive because labor time is reduced, cheaping embodied labor value within the amerikan product.
>>2666852man millennials should accept the fact that their media was cringe and never mention or reference it again. like a media vow of silence
>>2666506She looks like a fucking monster, why do all these rich fucks have such ass taste man, like fucking look at her, literally a demon
>>2666852My
gametheory is that Rowling made the lightning scar symbolism to represent the virtues of Nazism/fascism what liberals could better exercise, without all the death camp ugliness carryover from colonialism. The counter revolution as a chosen one child whose destiny is preserving the status quo forever.
To see RL in those terms, and the propaganda asks nothing short of that, one has to be a child.
But liberals in that vein are scarcer nowadays. Those were the "end of history" retards at peak hegemony. Now the empire is failing and flailing and needs men to fight it's wars, not children to consume the fairy-tales.
>>2666858nah millennial media was good until it got into the nostalgia phase. sure harry potter sucked but there was some good art made in the 00's.
stranger things, squid game, and all the other "modern" entertainment is straight up dogwater.
>>2666859Plastic surgery (on women) is the hype social marker for the amerikkkan bourgeois
>>2666857weak bait, according to marx the value of commodities comes from the snlt - not the literal time it took a person to make something
>>2666865 (me)
Hence Rowling's turn to TERFism and conservatism. It's a matter of time however, until conservatards give up and just admit,through various copeouts, that the only thing they care for is forcing women to produce babies at the rate set by bourgeois.
They'll give up and shill for surogate breeding and fertility stuff and finally admit they don't give a shit about the gender as long as you can pop out more soldiers.
>>2666859>>2666867These people are going to look like fucking monsters as they age.
>>2666842>put his life on the line going head to head with leftists Leftists are back to being deadly
>>2666864I can’t imagine even it though I know it’s a possibility that trump is going to TACO and pull back on everything. Lose the midterms, possibly die from the millions of illness he likely has. And then what? All these ghouls who tried and failed for a second time to bring about the burgerreich all just fuck off to be rumbler influencers or some shit?
>>2666859conservative women are shaytan
>>2666864fearful trump moment
>>2666772Nasser's profile pic had an Egyptian father and German mother, literally white genocide.
>>2666864So are people going to stop protesting
>>2666884probably yeah. americans are incapable of maintaining pressure on their politicians for more than a few weeks.
>>2666868You say imperialist machinery make amerikans more productive, denying the law of value and the material law of uneven development. You are wrong for propagating imperialist productivist bourgeois value theory. Imperialist machines produce no value. Machines transfer their own value, therefore all new value purported by imperialist machinery is in fact transferred from the machinery—which was stolen from the Third-World—not the amerikan. Imperialist machinery is super-profit used to make amerikans and their product more worthless
>>2666850they'll keep cycling these little hitlers obviously
>>2666716Thats imperialist propaganda.
>>2666716half of these how it's made videos actually feature factories in the third world lol
>>2666884For now yes, however it demonstrates that the regime isn't as strong as it pretends to be and will embolden opposition in the long term
Also until the various murderers are themselves arrested and prosecuted I doubt even the current wave of protests is going to fade
>>2666878>And then what?he already pushed the limits of what the US is capable of and the world will tolerate, there's no going back from this, even if trump ultimately fails to become the führer of the burgerreich, someone else will take it from there.
>>2666852If we're relating media to worldviews than unironically Dark Souls seems closer to capturing the Zeitgeist than Harry Potter.
>>2666901that's never happening because prosecuting murderous cops might have a chilling effect on their recruiting. the fascists are depending on /pol/tards with a murder fetish joining ICE to do their bidding. whats the point if you cant just randomly kill civilians?
>>2666852I don’t think it’s liberalism. It’s more like a insulated perspective of contemporary Britain as understood by a person who has never really interacted with the real world, its institutions, or its inhabitants, since high school.
>>2666901The identity of Pretti’s killer haven’t even been found yet. Because he was wearing a mask and all investigation has been blocked by DHS.
>>2666902>I hate being in the SS, killing civilians is too tiring! I didn't know I would have to walk this much!watch liberals use this as a w. I guess their garbage argument against fascism is that it is too tiring
>>2666912to whom exactly does the one billion go to? some sort of government account or a private trump account (some company of his)?
>>2666902>Morale is “plummeting” among federal law enforcement officersHave they all considered killing themselves for being parasites?
>>2666912>west refused, third world acceptedJDPON Don did it again
>>2666902we must organize the federal workers and law enforcement officers!!
>>2666913It's an account exclusively controlled by Donald Trump, not the US government or any government for that matter. It's also a UN-authorized agency for some reason.
I think it's just Trump trying to get around the whole "Russiagate" stuff by legitimizing his grifting of foreign leaders. Meanwhile the member countries don't really care that Trump is asking for a bribe since, they're more than happy to buy American political influence without going through middlemen.
>>2666912finally a new map
>>2666918most of the third world didn't. it's more of a list of the most decadent, bourgeois, mafia states
>>2666922Vietnam is communist
Saudi Arabia's economy is 90% SOE
Kazakhstan bravely defeated the CIA workers in 2022
Etc
>>2666666Should have been used on Vance or Stephen Miller
>>2666918>third world acceptednah it's like entirely the middle east and eastern europe/western asia aka literal top-down unambiguous oligarchies, monarchies, and plutocracies. which makes sense since it's just an org for Trump to accept bribes.
>>2666926>Saudi Arabia's economy is 90% SOESaudi Arabia is a literal monarchy and not a "constitutional monarchy" but an actual monarchy where the entire state is the sole property of the House of Saud and all its citizens are their slaves with no rights. The fact they have a high standard of living doesn't change that.
Can someone explain why 4chan is so giddy with the ICEfagging?
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/527052308/Like is this all just tribalism?
>>2666933They actually hate the people who live in America and want to kill they. They would actually be happy if ICE was 100% undocumented mercenaries executing nurses and teachers (who they hate) in blue cities. These are the people who get the label “patriot” btw.
>>2666824Thats bulshit somalis are muslim and that would be all sorts of haram
>>2666954Shot their hand off
>>2666954I believe that was during the weekend.
Also >shaun king
>>2666955It's bullshit because it's even more insane and racist than the pet eating thing, but many Muslims are shall we say very liberal in their interpretation of religion in Africa.
>>2666964True but they still aint about to eat their dead grandma
>>2666960Every facist dreams of being used and discarded by their duce figure
>>2666960Why is Trump fireing him?
>>2666842>>2666965They're going to turn him into the scapegoat fall guy.
>>2666842>>2666960>>2666965he should get on his platner arc
>>2666972They need a scapegoat pretty much. Of course it didn't help that Bovino and others went on national television immediately after the murder of Alex Pretti to label him a domestic terrorist with zero evidence, despite all the video evidence to the contrary. It was a gamble that blew up in their face (who could have seen that coming) and the guy turned out to be a VA nurse. Then they fumbled some more by describing his lawfully owned firearm as a "military-style pistol", and how "two loaded magazines" and "a bullet in the chamber" was proof of this and that, basically parroting libshit talking points.
>>2666992No clue. But I hope Stephen Miller's next on the chopping block
So basically we won. A tiny victory in the grand scheme of things and one that doesn't change anything, but it IS a victory. The administration showed weakness and was forced to consider bad optics over running into full fascism because of the masses assembling to counter them. Obviously they're going to try to spin this whatever way they can to save face but this IS a victory for us. The important thing is not to get complacent, use the momentum to keep pushing. Make the next demand and the next and the next.
>>2666988It wasn't a gamble, these individuals by condition of their resistance are criminals according to the operational jurisdiction of ICE and subsequently political opponents. They knew full well the terms by which they were in Minnesota and that down the line all use of force would be defended according to the precedent it set.
>>2667002>>2666988Every rationalisation by the administration was as a result a defence for what was nothing else than a summary execution, determined ultimately before a single shot was fired.
>>2666960THE BULL IS DOWN
who is this bovine? is this related to the lady being shot?your thread moves too fast.
>>2666999Sure if you’re a democrat this plays into midterm campaigns and then we’re back at square one
>>2666999is it a victory if the 'barder czar' replaces him?
as I said:
>>2666818 >>2666999Brother you're still going to get zio-evangeliKKKal fascism but they'll tone down the unabashed evilness a little bit.
i dont like yanks but you minnesotans are alright
>>2667009the short guy in the green nazi coat
>>2667009>>2667005Well yes it was obviously a conscious strategic move to spin it that way. But it was risky nonetheless.
>>2667028oopsie daisy, meant for
>>2667002 >>2666666Bazinga inshallah
>>2666965treatlerite nuremburg: imagine not being able to post
>>2667011Jesus christ, is that really this dude's twitter handle?
They're all larpers man.
>>2667028The choice to portray both murders as interruption with federal authorities by extremist agitators wasn't one based on risk but necessity. It was only after the fact and as a result of internal movements within the Republican base following a blind panic in disfavour within its core voters that they shifted tact; had certain parts of the administration not buckled, including senior figures, they simply would have ignored events and continued as if it were business as usual.
Risk had absolutely nothing to do with this
>>2666965Kinda shocked any of these retards know the first thing about damage control.
>>2667036yes. he spent hours troll-b8ing-replying whoever criticized him + some average 🥰 to the usual bootlickers.
>>2667037I don't get what you don't get. You don't think it's risky to call someone who obviously isn't a domestic terrorist, a domestic terrorist? You're watching their attempt blow up in real time. I'm not arguing that it wasn't a conscious choice to do so or part of a broader national security strategy.
>>2667043There was no risk planning, as events were decided before they occured. The administration is operating with impunity and only reacts according to its interests, not in that past manner typical of previous governments where political consensus must be sought.
As such they do not carry out risk planning. It was risky only insofar as their political calculus failed, as the focus of the party was shifting to its midterm results due to its management of a stalling economy as the murders happened.
>>2667046>It was risky Agreed.
>>2667043>>2667046Put another way, there is simply state planning in which outcomes are not being accounted for on the basis of risk but rather the extent to which there is a political unity between the GOP and its actions.
>>2667043The strike made their line go from calling them domestic terrorists to unfortunate, confused crackers because bourgeoisie seeks reconciliation over ice problem
>>2667050More or less, yes.
>>2667048It isn't risk you moron, it's opportunistic self-interest unified behind a single figure of power which has determined this result.
It isn't even a victory, the Republicans will continue to squeeze Minnesota as it reorientates its approach
>>2667004>31% of americans have no opinion on AI or labor unionsamerica is cooked
>>2667042ICEcapades coming to your neighborhood this summer
>>2667004I hope this ends immigration hysteria. I think you can convince most Americans now to consider open borders. Apparently the only alternative to open borders according to rightiods. Is gangs of state sponsored human traffickers snatching people off the street and murdering people, a good chunk of them citizens at that.
If democrats or even right communist like ACP had any sense they would run on arresting porkies that hire undocumented immigrants for human trafficking as the only real solution to the “immigration problem”. All the hysteria around immigration has flushed billions of dollars down the drain and created multiple useless agencies that do more drug, arms and human trafficking than most cartels and commit more crimes in week than immigrants do in decades.
>>2667056Why are you so fucking dense. In calling it risky you are reducing the explanation to blind luck which these murders are not: they are the result of deliberate decisions to enact a level of state violence on the policy of its obscene justification of racial discrimination.
Gain a fucking clue
>>2667056>>2667059It isn't 'risky' to portray your political opponents in a negative light in the hope of a 'pay off'.
Why you think like this at all is pathetic
>>2667058>I think you can convince most Americans now to consider open borders.What?
No you can't, open borders is extremely unpopular. Even on the Left. There is no left-wing country that operates on open borders.
>If democrats or even right communist like ACP had any sense they would run on arresting porkies that hire undocumented immigrants for human trafficking as the only real solution to the “immigration problem”.extremely correct but also you know exactly why they don't do this.
>>2667059>reducing the explanation to blind luckI said no such thing. In fact I said the opposite:
<I'm not arguing that it wasn't a conscious choice to do so or part of a broader national security strategy.I also said that it was a risky move. You also said it was risky. Not my fault you're incoherent with your verbose pseudbabble.
Happening status?
>>2667063It isn't a risky move, it is material planning that is the result of calculated outcomes. You are implying blind chance when the events that are occuring in their totality are the result of anything but.
That you are too thick to understand this and call it 'pseudbabble' is indicative of the level of awareness you have, which is the same as the average prole who is glued to their respective media spaces differentiated only by which talking head parrots to you the inane propaganda it takes in motivating you to their own ends.
>>2667065>>2667063The action of these officials aren't 'risky', your understanding of politics has been reduced to a level of spectatorship with no basis in reality
>Uhhhhh actually it was risky, that's all there is to it
And so on as infinitum
>>2667069Dude stop engaging, who gives a shit? Someone post that document about starting inane fights to fuck up meetings and parties.
>>2667064no longer happening. some are saying it was never happening in the first place.
>>2667011What are the chances if ppl bully Bovino enough on twitter about losing his job he’ll join Charlie Kirk and become a real Americ-an hero?
so what do we think, does the regime suspending Bovino and attempting to do damage control indicate that things are going to fizzle back to a false sense of normalcy while ICE continues to abduct brown people or is it too little and too late for anything this inconsequential to work?
>>2667073That’s because nothing ever happens, I actually mean it, not in the meme sense, like really, nothing ever happens
>>2667070It's an understanding of events that is reprehensible, as it is an explanation in the vain of one which implicitly excuses those responsible for these murders at every level by disguising their choice to portray these murders as justified, in that same ideological fashion whereby the actions of said officials are reduced to happenstance.
It's absurd that anyone on this site thinks in such a fashion
>>2667076The latter. At most they've temporarily lifted the boot off our necks just slightly, but at this point even liberals are pissed enough that a few sorry's aren't going to cut it
>>2667075He's right though what about the support numbers? No leftes will refyoute this.
>>2667058>ACP had any sense they would run on arresting porkies that hire undocumented immigrants for human trafficking as the only real solution to the “immigration problem”Isin't that like the official ACP position? Not a hazoid but I feel like haz several times did bring up cases like koch foods and hotels.
>>2667076I don't think so, with how developed the rapid response groups in Minneapolis have become
Fed union AFGE calls for ouster of Noem, Millerhttps://www.rawstory.com/trump-immigration-2675036080/>The American Federation of Government Employees, which represents more than 820,000 federal employees, called on Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem and White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller to either resign or be fired following the death of ICU nurse Alex Pretti.
>“Our demand is clear: Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, who was responsible for carrying out the policy that led to Alex’s needless killing, and Deputy White House Chief of Staff Stephen Miller, the architect of that policy, must resign immediately. If they refuse, President Trump must dismiss them," AFGE National President Everett Kelley said in a statement.
>…Pretti, who was also an AFGE union member, was shot and killed by a swarm of immigration agents in Minneapolis on Saturday after he intervened when an agent shoved a woman to the ground. Eyewitness videos show Pretti being pepper-sprayed before agents take him to the ground. >>2667086I didn't think federal unions were legal
>>2667076they are definitely looking for an offramp for the situation in Minnesota. How long that takes or where they go next though who knows. I still think a conflict with Iran is looming, in an attempt to get the media moved away from this
>>2667087I think they can’t strike legally or something like that, yeah
>>2667075[Bovino's] support numbers were rising.
I wonder what it's like to be able to hallucinate a whole new reality at will.
>>2667093Remember tulpas? I think this is the logical extension of the tulpa craze of the early 2010's
>>2666978i'm glad people are finally catching dark souls' naive dialectics subtext
>>2667102just listen to Fedes' tones man
>>2667058>If democrats or even right communist like ACP had any sense they would run on arresting porkies that hire undocumented immigrants for human trafficking as the only real solution to the “immigration problem”.if they had, then it would be drowned out because hating minorities is a more appealing proposal to the economically anxious burgeroid because it requires punishing an underclass instead of doing any sort of struggle. where trump has fucked up is that he has brought intense economic pain together with a massive deportation campaign, but i guarantee people would be more chill if trump was doling out patriot dividends
>>2667105I was in those threads, so very long ago.
>>2667089A conflict with Iran is almost guaranteed in the next few days. CENTCOM sent a RC-135 Rivet Joint to the ME during the last few hours. They never send one unless they're about to hit something major. Last time one was in the region was in June last year before the strikes on the nuclear facilities.
>>2667128So? It’s not gonna change anything
>>2667114I feel like asking any more questions would open a door that would eventually lead to my suicide
>>2667133fede was just a guy who made shit for tulpa groups back then and you can just google search for "fede's tones" and get a bunch of details.
>>2666858Millennial YA was Goosebumps and Animorphs. Harry Potter was for kids. Signed, Not Old.
>>2667142Is redwall gen x?
Here it comes, the status quo period is about to hit!
>>2667142goosebumps is aimed younger than HP. middle grade probably
>>2667128This going to go really badly for them.
>>2666772Guy was so triggered by
> Pro life> DiesMemes that he made the most incoherent version of the meme ever
>>2667103>naive dialectics subtextelaborate
>>2666772sounds like a deliberate assassination.
>>2667042We should get ahead and make it ourselves, but make it subversive – like just when you started feeling bad for the agent BOOM he's a pedophile who used grok to make child porn of his niece and nephew.
First run through you'll get angry, and realize at the end it's like img rel where you werent meant to sympathize with the main character, (instead it's more of a case study).
If I misunderstood clockwork let me know >>2667191> you werent meant to sympathize with the main character, (instead it's more of a case study).well in kubrick's case, he was a huge sadist just like the main character, who tortured his actors. in the case of the author of the book, he was just a huge christcuck who wanted to write a story about redemption and free will.
accidentally tagged wrong post the first time >>2667180there was a hegelian anon here who could probably explain dialectics better because i only understand it in very very mundane terms, but basically fire and dark are in opposition and the struggle between the two is what drives history (in dark souls), so the age of fire eventually brings about it's own opposition, the age of dark, by mere virtue of it fading, but then again embers eventually bring about another age of fire. also this contradiction is present in human beings, which are beings of dark but also are given flesh/purpose through fire. but also fire literally consumes the dark of humanity to survive, so gods need humanity to persist (but not the other way around), so there's some master-slave shit going on in the mythology of dark souls. gwyn was basically living his own end of history when he decided to rekindle the first flame, gwyn resists the coming of a new age and he insists on mainting a moribund world, which you can map it to capitalism i guess. but it's all very gnostic and shit
>>2667207The turner diares but zionist
>>2666933Psyop by Thielian gay space fascism
They want to make anti immigration the main platform of the right by the next election so Thiel's sodomite harem can rule America
>>2667206 (me)
oh yeah also fire and dark are like concepts in-game. fire is godly, promethean, life-giving, dynamic and it's a civilizatory force but if it acts up it's a cataclysm, gives life to demonic beings. dark is tranquil, still, silent, primitive, it represents humanity, but too much of it is stagnation (kegare), it's corrupting, and savage. all the swamp shit? kegare.
>>2666858it'll happen to you too
>>2667219based thiel destroying america to build a corpo hellscape!
>DOJ withdraws request for arrest warrants against Don Lemon and four others over Minnesota church protest, NYPost reports.
low energy
>>2667247Did they get this intimidated by whistle and look out group?
>>2667241lmao these apes are so mad they can't go down and beat protesters to a pulp anymore
>>2667253they can though?
>>2667253We need to demand the abolishment of ice, and that none of these degenerates ever get hired in the federal government or any leo job
Also all core civic and geogroup should be barred from federal contracts
>>2667241missed opportunity to shoot him in the asshole
>>2666738I think that this post-truth orientation is only conservative because it belongs to the working class and some middle strata. The bourgeoisie has it's scientific rule. Between the two, the bourgeoisie prevails. Ignorance (of the masses) and a "whatever works" attitude directly serves the powerful
I wonder if it would demoralize ICE to get in real close then just blow my own brains out, what if a crowd all did that? Just get real uncomfortably close without touching then just mass suicide right in their faces, so the brain matter and skull bits go right in their eyes
>>2667330it's time to shut down your computer, anon.
>>2667330their enemies killing themselves would make them laugh and cheer. are you stupid?
>>2667340It wouldn’t bother you to have someone blow their brains out in front of you? Like spitting distance?
>>2667330if you want to die then just mag dump into a group of them and die in a hail of bullets
>>2667342it might worry me because if their blood touches me it might be diseased. But if my enemies are doing that? great. Like if a fascist blew his brains out in front of me? Great!
>>2667344 Or even better copy Islamist and Tamil nationalist tactics wink nudge
>>2667342The only thing that would bother ICE about that is that they didn't get to pull the trigger.
>>2667351Come to think of it, they might just whip out their guns and start shooting the corpse.
>>2667353What if that’s the start of an ambush, get them to empty their first mags onto a suicidal distraction and start firing as they’re reloading
Free free USA
>>2667366All hail the Free American Army
>>2666738>>2667309To offer at least a brief defense of this cultural "anti-intellectualism" the "intellectual" currents in America have often been just as much responsible for the present state of things as rampant ignorance. Plenty of "respectable" news outlets solemnly explained in detail how Iraq had WMDs, for example. The liberal defense of every advance for neoliberalism has been "Well you fucking IDIOTS, you MORONS, you just don't understand how economics works!"
Seriously, if you ever want to see the worst examples of intellectual elitism in an American Context, check out The West Wing. There's an episode where they're dealing with what amounts to NAFTA protests and the President's cabinet is just dripping with contempt at all the "stupids" who oppose it. The series ends with them "heroically" working to privatize social security because the "experts" say it's going to collapse.
I can't really speak to the situation in Europe or the culture around theory there, but in America at least (and I suspect part of this might be rooted in us not really having an aristocracy that would/could patronize "useless" intellectual endeavors) there isn't much of an existing culture of liberatory theory, I guess you could say. John Brown thought he was on a mission from God. There are these old wobbly propaganda that basically contrasts the muscular factory worker demanding people organize
now to these effete utopians that want to ponder high-minded theory.
If you want to be depressed, then consider the current of "intellectualism" in American politics is most prominently associated with the Democratic Party. There's a Conservative intellectual tradition, to be sure, but nowhere is "intellectualism" more prominently perceived in American politics than in the fucking nerds that are jerking off to tort reform. Some Democrats are legitimately arguing that Biden was the most progressive president in 50 years because of the CHIPS Act, and I don't know a single goddamn person who even knows what that is. These freaks will say shit like "Ohmigawd! Hakeem Jeffries is proposing a bill that'll extend delinquencies on the credit of families making under $100k to 140 Days Minimum!" No one knows what the fuck that means. At least with Republican Voodoo economics people can conceptualize "Taxes take money, cutting taxes means I get less money taken."
So what does an "expert" mean in an American context? Usually some guy in a polo shirt explaining that coal miners in Virginia can just "learn to code" and that they'll even offer deductions on peoples' taxes for folks that take an accredited program to learn C++. It's something that seems nakedly stupid on its face, but if you're just a working class guy and they've got a masters degree they can conjure up any kind of rhetorical jiu-jitsu to say actually you're fucking stupid for not realizing how great an idea this is.
>>2667207>what other outcome did they expect here, exactlyinsurrection act, install globalist fascist dictatorship.
>>2660603because, in the final analysis, the bourgeoisie are internationalist when the proletariat fails to be.
>>2667373it's so funny that TV sets used to be like 70% wood and 30% screens because silent gen wanted it to blend in with their furniture.
>>2667327I didn't say it was consistent, I said it was at least attempting to be grounded. All those splits had theological and practical reasons.
>>2667327>>2667381And to be fair these splits become progressively more oportunistic and cynical with reformation, the firsts being like "fuck this corrupt church, let's rediscover Christ with a more demicratic flock-oriented one" to Anglicans being "I need a divorce bc my gf's pussy stinks, fuck the pope lmao" to current day cashgrab televangelists and self-proclaimed Jesus-incarnate cult leaders.
>>2667370That's a good point. Proletarian anti-intellectualism is cast against bourgeois control as intellectualism. The anti-intellectualism is still an issue though, and the problem with bourgeois intellectualism is that it's bourgeois and servers bourgeois ends, and should be countered with proletarian intellectualism that doesn't hold titles over our heads but encourages the innate ability of all to learn and employ logic,
>>2666738>You people actively ban European posters who completely correctly predicted the outcomes of BLMWhat outcomes?
>>2666601giving contradictory statements is par for the course for authoritarian regimes, the intended effect is to short-circuit the critical thinking faculties in the subjects
don't worry it doesn't work against autists and sorry for using the a-word hope i didn't hurt thee fee-fees too bad Remember the moralists that said that Trump killing a white armed dude would be the end of America? Well, now it has happened once in his first term and a second time now. Maybe racial analysis is wrong and can't be used to predict the future?
>>2667401Whats your opinion of BLM
>>2666506They need to be humiliated and the murderers of Pretti and Good need to be arrested. They have thus far interfered with the investigation to such an extent the Pretti's killer is not even know to anyone besides the feds.
>>2666864I don't mean anything by this, not judging women, or anything. But conservative women all converge on this identical bottle-blond face-filler template.
>>2667406Good. They made Trump go to his pussy bunker in 2020.
Sending Tom Homan in to Minneapolis is in its own way angering, it reminds us how Obama betrayed so many people. Attempting to build some kind of Democratic Party consensus. I wonder if the Dems realize how much opinion is shifting against them.
>>2666612sluggish schizophrenia. the USSR was right once again
>>2666612Anything but class analysis
>>2667398WE ARE GONNA DIE
>>2667455not everything is about class. 30% of the population literally worship the great leader as a god and are willing to start a third world war over it
>>2666612>lacks the ability to comprehend contradictionsthis would explain so much about Americans
>>2667398Anything climate change is so bleak, all of the people go on about prole revolution and shit, but all of that is becoming completely irrelevant tbh
>>2667463the time of ending is the time of rebirth. Climate change is the greatest opportunity and our greatest damnation.
Interesting times ahead
>>2667465Dude if islands and coastal areas sink into the ocean, the global south becomes uninhabitable due to desertification, and formerly ice-covered lands in the poles become habitable, it's 100% going to be the capitalist elites getting all the land there and setting up some kind of dystopian system in their New World. I don't see the opportunity
>>2667465Pretty much yeah. It's annoying that so many leftists are still thinking in ways that are just irrelevant atthis point though.
The good thing is that capitalism is destroying itself, the bad is that it willdrag billions down to hell with it. The faster we burn capitalism down, the lesser the impact. But shit is going to be real bad either way, I personally don't think we'll be able to technology our way out of it, at least not as the usual hi-tech way.
>>2667472which is why during the process of increasing climate change, its going to be our greatest opportunity and or our greatest damnation.
During that process, the neoliberal order will collapse fully. Revolutionary fury will increase during that time. The masses will be mad.
During that process, we could see multiple attempts at revolution. If they succeed then perhaps something decent can come out of this mess. If they fail, then uh its joever
(tho tbh theres always the third possibility that its already too late and climate change will eventually kill every single human in this planet. No escape)
>>2667241Look at the gut on pig. Why are they always obese?
>>2667476>1/4 the world will drown and another 1/4 will be desertified>Billions of people will be displaced and food supply will collapseIn what fucking world will this situation result in a revolutionary uprising? It will be Mad Max meet cannibal holocaust all the way down. We will be eating each other and crackkka ass thinks there will be a second October revolution.
Climate change wom't be that bad cause it is very progressive, look we're used to the massive yearly storms, floods and heatwaves that were only happening once a decade, infrastructure an people already have adapted for the most part
>>2667480Because collapse takes time. It wont happen immediately.
During the period of gradual collapse, the instability could be used as an opportunity for revolutionary uprising. This is exactly how past socialist revolutions happened, revolutionaries exploiting the chaotic and collapsing situations in their countries
(but I do acknowledge things might just end up failing as i said in my third possibility)
>>2667481My country hsa tropical storms every year. People used to live in straw huts and iron sheet houses, until there was a particularly bad storm which left people homeless. This directly led to the government and the people build exclusively in concrete.
Climate catastrophes are historically progressive. Without them, we would be satisfied swinging on trees.
More CO2, more methane. Oppose climate demoralisers. Beat up climate defeatists.
climate change is a paper tiger
>>2667483We already are in the "gradual collapse phase". There are already wars in the Sahara over desertification, and communists are not the ones benefiting over these wars.
A much more practical solution to climate change, rather than waiting for the end of the world, and a revolution that might or might not come and might or might not succeed (that also has to happen globally, otherwise we will be locked in Cold War 2 that will be absolutely disastrous for the climate) is reformism.
>>2667489>We already are in the "gradual collapse phase"In the west we are already seeing flinkers of a revived labor movement and "socialist" movement. "Left wing" thought has been revived compared to the state it was in 1990s.
Perhaps this might fail again but the revival of the "left-wing" even if its just social dem and social lib shit right now is an indication of where things are currently going. Radicialization will keep increasing over time.
>rather than waiting for the end of the world, and a revolution that might or might not come and might or might not succeed (that also has to happen globally, otherwise we will be locked in Cold War 2 that will be absolutely disastrous for the climate) is reformism.Perhaps you are right that reformism could be the better outcome. But at this state reformism is too late, reforms cant stop the upcoming disaster now (check image). so in my view its either gonna be revolution, barbarism or extinction. Reformism has stopped being a option a long time ago
>>2667481Most stupid post ever lmao
>>2667487>chagosposter is basically a silicon valley oil baronWhat a shock
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