Would you rather be friends with neoliberal imperialists that put LGBT logo on everything or far-right Ziggers that wants to bring back the Tsardom of Russia?
>>2668962Why make thread for this?
The latter is much more likely to have sucked a dick in a locker room than the former
>>2668962Liberals are more progressive than monarchists/fascoids.
>>2668962>neoliberal imperialistsSo ziggers?
>>2668965But you are communuyghur so they are both reactionary
the ziggers are probably a lot more fun
I would rather be friends with a zigga because both are retards but at least the latter is more likely to have a sense of humor and self-awareness. Saying this as someone who's interacted with both types of people
>>2668969True. Its about lesser evilism.
>>2668965compare how many revolutions were born out of monarchies and how many were born out of liberal occupied republics, are you sure liberals are more progressive?
>>2668962Eternal loneliness it is.
>>2668962>far-right Ziggers that wants to bring back the Tsardom of Russia?except simply thinking NATO caused the war is enough to get you called "zigger" around here so I think that term has become a bit of a thought terminating cliche. Almost nobody on here who gets slandered as "zigger" is a monarchist guy, or even an uncritical supporter of putin.
>muh algae-beat-tea imberialismough where to even begin with the pinkwashing question.
TL;DR I am both an anti-NATO "zigger" as well as pro-LGBT rights in the USA.
>but it's not relevant to class strugglethe class struggle of the proletariat cannot be unified if bigotry is tolerated within it.
I’d prefer to be alone
If the zigger is organized in an anti-communist org then I choose neither or the liberal
If he is an armchair tsarist zigger I undoubtly choose him specially if we can have sex as exposed by
>>2668964>>2668962is killing myself an option ?
>>2668962The latter because they wouldn't backstab me like the former would
Can I be friends with the apathetic, apolitical proletarians instead
>>2668962Neoliberals by far. For all the flaws of the former, virtue signalling is sensible and vice signalling is stupid and evil
All of those are insufferable but ziggers atleast have a sense of humor, critical thinking and know that their beliefs are often contradictory, also they are funnier.
The blonde white neolib will just call me a genocide denier and try to proselytize me, while the russian guy either would call me a jew or a fag and leave, and yeah, i pick the russian ultranationalist.
>>2669003Because the inherent contradictions of monarchism result in a more oppressive state, and a greater need for revolution. That doesn't make monarchies progressive.
In my experience centrist libs are more personally insufferable than outright reactionaries. In uni I met two guys, one was r/neoliberal personified and the other was an NRx dude. The former was far more irritating and less interesting to talk to. There's a smugness, unearned self-confidence, and total lack of curiosity or open mindedness that comes from just parroting the dominant ideology. The NRx guy at least recognized that the status quo was seriously flawed and in need of dire reform, and at least seemed interested in hearing about Marxist solutions to this problem. By contrast the lib was convinced that everything was great and would hear no talk to the contrary.
>>2670941Yeah, I think the same. It is a same they want to kill communists, otherwise they would be waaay better than liberals
>>2668962>far-right ZiggersEasily
>>2670946Yeah ofc but since they aren't in power and this NRx guy wasn't just going to murder me we could get drunk and talk about how much we both hated libs lol.
>>2668962I don't like libs cuz I feel like I need to watch what I say or do around them
>>2670318That's true but I'd only 'ride or die' for someone if they shared core beliefs/values or where atleast open minded enough to have solidarity with my own point of view because asking someone to have a fully systematic worldview figured out is a bit much.
as a Russian, libs want NATO tanks in Moscow while monarchists are usually at least willing to accept that the USSR did a good job at stopping the nazis in WW2 and largely don't want NATO tanks in Moscow
so I'd rather have a monarchist femboy friend to sexually bully and gradually mindbreak into a stalinist
unfortunately most of my friends are libs and I hate myself
>Lib vs Lib
You just don't have any understanding in geopolitics.
There's a hybrid war being fought against Russia by USA to keep it down so that US can stay the sole superpower. Don't confuse the big picture for populistic virtue signaling.
I am for anyone who's against zionist USA and its new world order.
>>2668962The thought of the right guy fucking a woman and she just sees Tsar Nicholas and Stalin looking at her from both pecs is hilarious
>>2670318>If you don't respect someone you're probably not going to be friends unless you are entrenched in a fucked up situation together. >>2671052>That's true but I'd only 'ride or die' for someone if they shared core beliefs/values or where atleast open minded enough to have solidarity with my own point of view I think "ride or die" or "entrenched in a fucked up situation" tend to go together whether one likes it or not. I feel that often in conflicts, someone defines others as the enemy, so people end up conscripted against their will by whoever is attacking them, which also contributes to weird tug-of-war alliances.
An enemy has decided to kill you and [insert someone else]. That "someone else" could be a zigger or a lib. Me and a zigger, sitting in a tree… when Azov has decided to open fire and we've gotta find a way to get out of this pickle together. Or maybe there's a group of ziggers and they're trying to kill me and somebody else. Like what if you're protesting ICE in the U.S. and some nazbol zigger group has decided to join ICE or go out and beat up protesters. And you're in that situation and so are the libs, and you don't think you're a lib but the nazbols are against libs and have identified you as a lib and therefore you're a target, doesn't matter how you identify.
This is not completely hypothetical either.
>>2671556>I am for anyone who's against zionist USA and its new world order.You would've supported the Third Reich and Imperial Japan.
>>2671603i can imagine the copes about Germany. the shell crisis and french mutiny would prove that both powers were on the verge of collapse and germany was winning. the loss of bulgaria would be handwaved away as irrelevant. the ottoman caliph's call to jihad would be boosted as some major game changer then ignored when it did nothing. the arrival of america would do nothing to stem the tide of losses.
then at the final german spring offensive they would say Paris in 2 weeks.
>>2671603>right up until the Bolshevik revolution kekWe dont fall for colour revolutions.
>>2671613Kautsky opposed the war and was part of the uspd tough
>>2671618I'm kidding in reference to his later writings about the bolshevik revolution
>>2671603Didn't Germany let Lenin go to Russia
The Central Powers were kinda good
>>2671602>You would've supported the Third Reich and Imperial Japan.Maybe I'd be the village rapist back in the day. Anything is possible. But I don't support them now or wouldn't with the hindsight.
>>2670327So neoliberal imperialists it is then
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