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>For the majority of Marxists, truth was truth no matter when and where it was known, and scientific knowledge, which included Marxism, accumulated historically as the advance of truth in this everyday sense. In this view, Marxism (or the Marxist theory of history and economics) did not belong to the illusory realm of the superstructure because it is a science
<In contrast, Gramsci believed Marxism was true in a socially pragmatic sense: by articulating the class consciousness of the proletariat, Marxism expressed the truth of its times better than any other theory.

What did he mean by this?

>>2672663
Basically it's saying that most marxists think of marxism as an objective truth similar to scientific paradigms like say evolution through natural selection, and not as an ideology. Ideology in a OG marxist sense basically means a set of lies that inverts the material reality of society in order to justify the ruling order (example: "billionaires generate innovation and wealth"). Gramsci on the other hand expanded and broadened the definition of ideology because he wanted to analyze it very deeply, so in a way he started classifying marxism as an ideology, but his definition of ideology was different and more complex.

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Reminder Gramsci was able to say shit like:

< He [Lenin] and his Bolshevik comrades are convinced that it is possible to actualise socialism at any moment (…) Revolutionary thinking negates time as a factor of progress.’


And still be taken seriously as a communist (by other pseuds, obviously).

>>2672706
People really go to college to end up regurgitating this retardation.

>>2672765
He was serious enough to get jailed by ᴉuᴉlossnW and company

>>2672765
>Revolutionary thinking negates time as a factor of progress.’
Is he wrong? Revolutionaries know only revolutionary action will bring progress, time by itself won't do shit

>>2672829
>time by itself won’t do shit
Entropy is a universal law, it includes human social systems

>>2672829
>Is he wrong?
It's literally nonsense.

>>2672814
Only good thing ᴉuᴉlossnW did.
More seriously, going to jail doesn't make you right.

>>2672663
Gramsci bad

Another thread, another Glownonymous stinker.

>>2672663
He's basically saying Marxism is true because it pragmatically expresses the intuitions of the proletariat conceptually, like it only could become a thing because of the times it was formulated not that it was a scientific theory that could've theoretically existed in pre-modern times that was valid for all time like a mathematical equation.


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