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Mass media is dominated by those with the capital to own it. Any airtime an anti-capitalist gains on these platforms can be revoked at any time. So while pursuing exposure on them isn't useless, it is limited, and playing at a disadvantage.

It's therefore useful to draw people away from these compromised platforms onto our own platforms, and to discover places they are not able to easily dominate.

Naturally, there are infrastructural challenges - internet services require servers, which cost money, have terms and conditions if you aren't self-hosting, and can ultimately be shutdown by the state if considered a threat.

Some examples, to get the discussion rolling:
< Socialist-run media outlets (MeansTV, party article/newspapers, self-hosted podcasts)
< Socialist-owned forums (/leftypol/s, eRegime, socialist mastodon instances, socialist lemmy instances like Hexbear)
< Socialist closed chat groups (Matrix channels, Telegram/Whatsapp/Signal/Di$cord groups [still vulnerable to deplatforming, but limited] )
< Postering/stickering/graffiti
< Personal networks (word of mouth)

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retard who heard marx once said "the ruling ideas are the ideas of the ruling class" and thought "oh so we need to fight those ideas with le proletarian ideas"

>my consumption le good

>your consumption le bad
why does the politically impotent middle class love wasting time with culture and ideology so much lol

>>2672761
>what is education?

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>>2673064
>this level of projection
lol OP reads exactly like some amerilard lib who wants to feel theyre "at least doing something" and that something is absolutely useless. fucking graffiti being mentioned like theyre some cognitohazard LMFAO. if annoying workers by handing them irrelevant pamphlets would ve achieved communism trots would ve caused the revolution decades ago lol

framing communism as something workers need to be spoonfed through watered down intros assumes class struggle is merely an education campaign. pedagogy isnt communisms main task. identifying proletarian interests and organizing around them is, but that would require you to actually go outside and engage with proletarians!!

>>2672700
One thing to consider is that most people aren't looking to engage in discourse, they're looking to numb themselves with passive entertainment when they go to social media apps. That they can also have analysis from purveyors of their preferred politics streamed into their eyeballs is just a plus. For most people it doesn't even factor. This shit is very addictive, and our society doesn't give much competition in the way of positive recreation.

A silver lining is that it's inconsistent reward that feeds addiction, meaning that a truly satisfying social life would destroy the parasocial addiction, and truly satisfying recreation would destroy the passive entertainment addiction. We're able to play a winning move, but to do it requires huge amounts of the lowest level organizing.

Maybe once people are relieved of the addiction to bourgeois media and platforms they can be directed into federated, community/politically-ran and censorship resistant discourse and performance platforms.

>>2672761
Information exchange is the heard of all organizing. It's also the heart of state control over a population. A workplace organizer tries to discover grievances, social formations, and individuals' predispositions, and then share the fact of shared grievances with all aggrieved parties, share tactics to remedy the situation, and share about potential backlash that could come from the bosses. States need info on people's grievances, on their enemies, on people's sentiments towards both, and they need to share information internally amongst disparate agencies and with the population about government efforts to alleviate their issues and propaganda that delegitimizes enemies. For communists then information is the most central thing. Organization of people into specialized roles for supporting the carrying out of our decisions being second.

>>2673073
>Information exchange is the heard of all organizing
love to abstract concrete actions into something vague and meaningless. yeah generalizing proletarian struggle requires "information exchange", that doesnt include none of the dumb shit OP listed except at best the group chats

im so tired of american retards who think ideas drive reality entirely (inb4 someone who doesnt even understand what base and superstructure actually mean just drop them like buzzwords) and communism hasnt happened because ""the masses"" (not even bothering to specify proletarians lol) are "brainwashed". completely farcical ridiculous bullshit on its own face that the most annoying midwits keep regurgitating and evidence going to college makes you more retarded, not less

>>2673077
You're totally right, this is why 90% of people don't just regurgitate whatever their favorite billionaire owned news channel tells them about the world - oh wait…

>>2672761
you're on here instead of killing porky irl and you're snarkily telling someone about how ideas don't matter, as if yours do. put your money where your mouth is and stop posting here and go kill a porky for us, thx

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>>2673072
>fucking graffiti being mentioned like theyre some cognitohazard LMFAO.
Shit no-one said. Drink some water and calm down.
Then please explain why Porky spends billions of dollars on billboards and other environmental propaganda.

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>>2673072
I remember this anon! They've been repeating this talking point for years, despite the obvious contradictions.

Don't even engage, they're unironically brain-damaged. Like the ANORECTAL VIOLENCE poster.


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