I have come to the conclusion that demons obviously exist, and they are winning. (Epstein, chatgpt, etc)
what religion can I look into that explains the prevelance of demons in society?
>>2674876Gnosticism (the material world was created by a flawed demiurge)
Hinduism (we are in the Kali Yuga, the worst and most ignorant of all ages)
Zoroastrianism (universe is structured around a fight between forces of good and evil)
Hinduism has the Kali Yuga, Buddhism has the Decline of the Dharma, Confucianism has the Three Suns, Abrahamic religions have dozens of Gnostic sects with the Demiurge or Satan being the creator of the world, and basically every Pagan or Polytheistic faith has some number of evil or amoral deities.
Literally pick any religion and it will have some such group within it.
In any case it's totally unproveable and I highly doubt it's true. It's just different ways of shifting the reasons we suffer onto a supernatural cause far greater than us. To that extent it's a way of deciding you can do nothing practical, of embracing defeatism, of rejecting actual proletarian struggle for mystical rituals and copium.
Do not let such magical thinking distract you from the reality of the situation. Demons or men, it's the same material principles of organisation and action that matters. Even if we had to face genuine Gods it changes nothing.
>>2674876>>2674895>>2674914>>2674920The retarded mental fucking gymnastics needed for ts. 😭😭😭
These mfs will believe in anything except simple class analysis, capitalists have been doing crazy shit since the industrial revolution.
>>2674876They are not demons - they are mortal men, and thus bleed.
>>2674925That does explain it on a materialist rationalist basis tor-anon, but the issue is that sometimes one can't help but also want an explanation that operates at the metaphysical level. Like, for me personally I'm a rationalist materialist, but there's some events that I look at in the world where there's such a level of petty cruelty and sadism that it really makes me wonder about metaphysical aspect of it. The siege of Gaza was one particularly such darkly puzzling event for me… Like. We haven't had any shortage of atrocities throughout history like Hitler and Ghenghis Khan and yada yaday… But who the fuck blocks anesthetics…? Children were literally having their limbs amputated without anesthetics because the IDF was blocking it. This literally don't even serves any military, pragmatic, or genocidal goal of any kind; it's just sadism for the sake of it. At some point you really have to wonder if the forces we fight against are truly exclusively human.
>>2674876Well Imo Epstein unironically followed freemasonry. Freemasonry is syncretic and takes elements of other belief systems for self benefit to see what works. Its extremely slithery. Freemasonry can literally take apart its rivals and create false opposition out of them for people to believe that if they oppose freemasonry they must go to a Freemasonry controlled opposition.
When you quit conspiracy theories and really look into it that's what it boils down to. No precise teachings, if anyone tells you freemasons precisely believe in X thing then they are full of shit, because Freemasonry can be anything, its literally foundational to liberalism and liberalism's adaptive and pervasive character that takes over everything it comes across and tries to incorporate it.
If that doesn't answer your question on "what religion explains this" then you're looking for jingling keys and being unserious.
>>2674949Its called freemasonry for a reason, its like building shit, freely. Duh. You take some materials there and some from here and you build your own shit, mud and gold castle.
Look at the Druze pissing their pants over somebody potentially learning what mix of incoherent bullshit they're working off of, because once they're exposed people will be able to judge them precisely and that will create conflcit and people will find contradictions with their own beliefs to go at war with them over whereas they want to remain a neutral cult and keep things cult friendly.
>>2674938>memecommunist>stalin pic>le ontological eviltheyre creating these pseuds in vats bruh
>>2674947>sometimes one can't help but also want an explanation that operates at the metaphysical levelwho cares what *you* want? nothing human is alien to me. im really glad i dont have such a limited mind that i have to resort to vibes and aura to not go insane over the news of the week
>>2674949>>2674950So they're often secretive because they dont want to reveal their playing cards, they dont want people to see what kind of crazy bullshit they've come up with for self improvmeent, scheming, control.
So yea, conspiracy theories are boring bullshit, just study the real character of theologies and become a stressed genius like me.
>it’s demon
>it’s reptilians
>it’s capitalists
>it’s homos
>it’s free masons
Nah man it’s just Jews jewing, as they have for centuries
>>2674952>Gratuitous insults, dismissal without arguments, psychopath-tier hateI'm trying to have a constructive debate and explaining why people feel like sometimes a purely materialist explanation isn't sufficient. You have from message one entered this thread with nothing but insults and gratuitous assaults against people who have been nothing but cordial to you. It doesn't really seem like you're in any particular way concerned about the matters evoked so far including the sadistic rape and murder of underage children in the Epstein island and the ongoing genocide in Gaza. I'm not entirely sure if you're just a first-worlder, glowie, or someone else who has a ulterior motive for suppressing the discussion about these latest revelations. Kinda hard to tell apart. But you're most certainly not someone interested on actually contributing to the discussion in a constructive manner.
>>2674958You feel that a materialist explanation is insufficient because you still believe in objective morality.
You still believe in objective morality because you haven't been exposed enough to objective reality.
Sorry but the demons are just alienated people reifying their own alienation.
>>2674963I don't think you're in any position to tell me what I have or haven't been exposed to, anon. In any case, the position you're arguing for is not marxism or historical materialism; it's moral nihilism. Most of human morality is indeed constructed rather than ontologically prior. But there are things that pretty much all human beings agree on a instinctual level to be ethically wrong. Raping children is wrong, torturing them is wrong, starving hundreds of thousands of civilians to death is wrong. No one has to be taught any of that, revulsion to these moral offenses is a deeply hardwired aspect of the normal, healthy, non-sociopathic human brain. When a human being is confronted with the systemic and widespread violation of these basic, instinct-level ethical taboos must naturally contemplate if the nature of the creatures that violate them are fully human. This is a natural thought process. You can disagree with it, but insulting people just for having these thoughts is infantile and condescending without merit.
>>2674975Is a domesticated dog still a dog, anon? IDF soldiers commit mass atrocities think they are "defending their people" because they have been socially conditoned to do so. Jeffrey and the 1337 booj gang commit selective atrocities because having climbed the ladder and seen their own objective impotence as mere functionaries in the face of Capital's dominion and sexually dominating others is the only thing that makes them feel like they have agency even though historically it's it's just another platitude and the ruling class have always done such things to reward themselves for maintaining class society.
>>2674994The issue are the instances where the actions go far beyond any pragmatic military rationale or logic that you could possibly wrap around things. They constantly shoot children in the legs, knees, arms, testicles, etc… They vandalize medical equipment like dialysis machine, block basic medical goods such as anesthetics and even baby formula, they repeatedly target babies, toddlers, women, the elderly and other non-combatants. There's literally 0 military or pragmatic goals involved in much of it. As a matter of fact the entire war is a purely destructive project from an economic perspective, it costs the IDF billions of dollars to continually maintain the unnaturally miserable conditions in Gaza, and they divert a significant portion of their working age population in the form of recruits to maintain that status. There's apparently no rush and no impetus towards any type of military resolution (conquest, extermination, mass displacement of the civilians, peace, etc…). It's not a rational logic that is in operation, it's sadism. They recognize that their victims are suffering and they want to witness the suffering; the suffering is the end in itself.
Stirnerian Egoism and Animism.
>>2674925there is no materialist analysis of raping babies and eating their organs
>>2674957my favorite jew is george bush
ChatGPT just promotes sloth (according to the Christianity scam) and a lack of creative thinking. And a lack of creative thinking will help the Media™ control the proletariat and enforce the capitalist dogma
>>2675184In the end, wealth is just for the privileged and 99% will have to work themselves to death every day as Musk is part of the American puppeteer cult
>>2675183chatgpt is the attempted resurrection of lucifer, with promises of infinite knowledge and power
>>2675188AI will steal more and more jobs, leaving more and more unemployed and poor while the Elites drown in wealth and commit acts of degeneracy paid for by the money that should go to workers
>>2675196Automation doesn't entitle workers to more wages read marx
>>2674876buddhism
it's supposed to illustrate an example of how you should not do bad things and how people who do bad things at the top only to collapse their own family and reputation
for example moneylending and becoming bourgeoisie leading to the holocaust
collective karma
hinduism will the kali yuga
>>2675206liberal psyop, ignore it
The difference between Epstein's gang and creeps humiliated by Chris Hansen is just being rich and well organized enough to indulge without real consequences for ages.
Calling them demons is just cope from people expecting humans come with some innate moral qualities rather than decency and predatory behavior being the result of socialcircumstances
We should let schizos get it out of their system for one more day but nothing more after that
read a book vro
>>2674876>I have come to the conclusion that demons obviously exist, and they are winning. (Epstein, chatgpt, etc) Thats cus yer a fucking troglodyte retard.
go away.
>>2675012They say fascism will come to America bearing the cross and wrapped up in the flag. The traditions of the dead have binded them and atheism is a threat to their entire worldview. You will get much further by promoting the truth that Jesus was socialistic and upended the money lender tables in the temple.
>what religion can I look into that explains the prevelance of demons in society?
You can look into this super obscure schizo occult religion called "theory". Trust me it will answer all your questions
>>2675959>he bumped thistard.
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