>>2678449charge set?
https://chatgpt.com/s/t_6981b7bc25a481919b1124e278c3addfBelow is what I’d put on a charging worksheet in Washington, with the usual caveat that some counts depend on specific facts (but I’ll show the “full menu” that fits the described conduct).
A) Secretly giving antibiotics (prescription drug conduct)
Unlawful delivery of a legend drug (antibiotics) — Class B felony
If he actually obtained prescription antibiotics and delivered/administered them to his wife without a prescription for her, that’s RCW 69.41.030 (sale/delivery/possession-with-intent). The statute explicitly makes violations involving “sale” or “delivery” a class B felony.
Knowing possession of a legend drug — Misdemeanor (often an add-on)
Same statute: “knowing possession” is a misdemeanor. This is frequently charged alongside (or as a fallback to) delivery.
Anticipatory offense(s) if pills never changed hands
If the antibiotics were only requested but not delivered, what fits best depends on what else happened:
Criminal conspiracy (agreement + substantial step) if the friend agreed and someone took a substantial step in furtherance. RCW 9A.28.040.
Criminal attempt (intent + substantial step) if the defendant took concrete steps toward obtaining/delivering the antibiotics. RCW 9A.28.020.
(Note: Washington “criminal solicitation” has a specific structure—offering/giving something of value to induce conduct—so it may or may not fit depending on whether he offered anything in exchange.)
B) Secretly medicating a spouse (violence/offense against the person)
Assault in the Fourth Degree (DV) — Gross misdemeanor
Washington’s fourth-degree assault is the usual charging vehicle for nonconsensual drugging when it doesn’t neatly fit higher assault degrees. RCW 9A.36.041.
Because it’s a spouse, it would ordinarily be filed with a DV designation.
Reckless endangerment — Gross misdemeanor (fact-dependent)
If the overall conduct created a “substantial risk of death or serious physical injury,” reckless endangerment is available. RCW 9A.36.050.
Whether STI exposure + self-directed antibiotic dosing gets you to that “serious physical injury” threshold is highly medical/fact-specific.
C) “Delete the mails…” (interference with justice / cover-up)
Tampering with a witness — Class C felony
Trying to get a person who “may have information relevant to a criminal investigation” to withhold it (including “delete the emails” / keep it secret) is classic witness tampering under RCW 9A.72.120, which is a class C felony.
Tampering with physical evidence — Gross misdemeanor (timing-dependent)
If there’s proof he destroyed/altered/concealed records (emails, messages, etc.) while having reason to believe an official proceeding was pending or about to be instituted, that’s RCW 9A.72.150, a gross misdemeanor.
https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/2018543200517099712Epstein hated Xi and the chinese.
Anti-China shills on this board… I don't think you're going to recover from this.
But for real.
After reading some of this shit I don't doubt he really did kill himself.
>>2678485What makes you say that? Dude was remorseless til the bitter end.
>>2678488He probably was just jerking it with a shirt tied around his neck and slipped on the cum
He was so stupid I assume he had to remind himself to breath
>>2678486The email says it's to Jeffrey and the I have no idea who is in that photo other than Jeffrey, could be anyone. Looks like it's on the island so it doesn't even fit with the letter.
Zohranism is the highest stage of Epsteinism.
That is the theory developed by Comrade Mira Nair.
The alliance of anti-Amin Dada rootless cosmopolitans will never be broken! Never!
Mom&Pop petite bourgeoisie will flourish! The Bodega will sell overpriced unhealthy slop and the kids will be fondled!
>>2678493I'd really believe Bill Gates killed him, but the fact he's so stupid he needs Epstein to get him antibiotics and hookers with STDs, I think maybe he's not smart enough to have a competent guy for murdering Epstein in prison.
>>2678496 killing epstein was probably an idea of someone else and then gates jus stole his idea like he has done his whole life
>>2678473>youtube essay-llm slopShan’t be watching
>>2678496Killing Epstein was more likely Mossad.
>>2678496>>2678504>>2678531It was probably Trump. He was president at the time, all it would have taken was a call to the CIA's director.
>>2678493>that cliphe's fiddling with the finger his wedding ring used to be on nervously and took 30 seconds to answer a simple question LOL
>>2678486>get taken as a baby to a pedo party>devote your life to class struggle (jihad)>become mayor of new york>now whats the next step of your master plan>?????>take revenge on the class that diddled you as a kidIm thinking mamdani is based
>>2678647I think we need a global drone assassination program for porky/pedo culling.
jizz lane maxwell
so far what's your favourite epstein file?
Why is Nick Fuentes so pro-Epstein pilled anyways
>>2678871cluster B attention whore with no beliefs addicted to grifting. many such cases.
>>2678486 timeline doesn't add up
>>2678486The amount of photoshopped/AI-generated content trying to link Mamdani to Epstein is insane.
Hasbara is working overtime. Epstein of course was a Mossad agent - every accusation is a confession.
>>2678861Obviously not, I don't even know what state the crime might have transpired in. It's just general information to show that what is described is a number of crimes at least in Washington state. It could be worse if it transpired in another jurisdiction. Neither of the links I posted are hallucinations, it's just the LLMs giving their "opinion" on which crimes may fit the evidence or not.
I tried again with Grok, and it was less generous with what charges would be supported by the evidence we have so far. But it also agrees with there being a Class B felony in there as well for the:
>Unlawful delivery of a legend drug (antibiotics) — Class B felonySo Grok thinks there isn't enough for assault, ChatGPT thinks misdemeanor assault 4, both of them think the "Unlawful delivery" is the only felony. Gemini thinks it's felony assault 2.
Either way I was just posting to show that is general automated opinion of multiple LLMs. It's like if you we wanted to know what the charge would be if the email said Jeffrey killed someone for Gates for money. That'd be pretty straight forward, it's just doing search results. This is a little straight forward, but the consensus is that there is a Class B felony and potentially other felonies and serious misdemeanors in there.
>>2678923I get what you're saying, and I know it's not that serious since we're just posting and trying to get some kind of basic overview.
>It's like if you we wanted to know what the charge would be if the email said Jeffrey killed someone for Gates for money. That'd be pretty straight forward, it's just doing search results.No, it's trying to predict what those search results would be, which leads to it potentially "making up" those search results. That's why it can give you sources that don't even exist.
>>2678944>No, it's trying to predict what those search results would be, which leads to it potentially "making up" those search results. Ok but not in this instance, it is giving links from the sourced answers to the law. It is of course making "subjective opinions" connecting the laws to the output. Yeah I know they still hallucinate to this day, that's why you always have to check sources. They do now have mechanisms to source the final output that they didn't before. Shit they didn't even have "thinking" before. I remember how much better the results to simple questions would be if you put things in the prompt like: "Only gived me sourced quotations. Don't make up quotes." and etc. It can figure out on its own but now somewhat but its probably better to add it in yourself as well.
>That's why it can give you sources that don't even exist.It has a mechanism to only include sources with links. You can click through the links yourself. There's multiple layers to these AI models now with "agents" and all that. It's not purely the LLM and token generation, they also do manual web searches on websites now.
>>2678950>from the other, not full, thread.It was up to 599 when I made this thread, now it's back to 559.
>>2678967press F5 before, just a heads up. there's this occurrence where trolls fill a thread with their garbage, they get reported, then their posts are erased, and the post count in the thread goes down.
>>2678971I mean that was hours ago. The thread filled and then it was unfilled.
>>2678979oh, they take hours after is filled, lol.
Just going to put this out there now, the McDonalds check finna be less than $100, low key was making more when I was selling tacos! I'm gonna be quite short on my motel room rent. It's pretty cold at night right now, and until I find a new home for my dog, I can't stay in a homeless shelter. If you've got the ability to donate, that would be really appreciated. Anything helps, and does add up. I'm about $250 short and have about 24 hours.
You can donate by cashapp (best way) to $jodiewodie
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>>2678990Why did you decide to move to a place where you don't even have friends you could crash with?
>>2679012>I will not spend it on Burger King, marijuana, or tattoosHow do we know the money won't be spent on spankings tho?
>>2678963I don't think we're really in disagreement then, just hitting on different edges of the same point.
>>2679014he though florida, out of all places, was better because of…
*check notes*
… lower taxes.
he didn't know that
lower taxes means for rich people, not for the average footmen.
this is Miami, btw.
>>2679022>Drone evades homeless peopleWhat should it optimally do then? Bump into them repeatedly so they get up and get a job?
Don't blame delivery robots on the fact that US society and social welfare system is punitive and everybody lives on the "kill line".
>>2679027the point of inequality is that you don't need a delivery drone, if you aren't coping with the reasons of why that person doesn't have a roof over his head.
the mere existence of that drone while there's a homeless person on a city, should be a crime.
>>2679027Is that Houdini on the sidewalk?
>>2679022The drone should be supplied with soy milk & cookies to offer the homeless in its path and also function as a needle exchange box.
Bump
>>2679032Are you being serious? So are you saying that there is a job for one homeless person taken by a robot?
US doesn't really lack the resources to house every homeless and give them food and healthcare. US lacks the political will to do so. You can be a communist and not a Luddite you know?
>>2679028>$14 an hour>scheduled to work 2 shifts out of the week, 6 hours total (midnight to 3am friday/saturday)>have been sent home because "we have too much labor tonight" already once, extra shifts are rare40-60% of people who are homeless have a job
>>2679041> So are you saying that there is a job for one homeless person taken by a robot?what a weird non-sequitur.
>US doesn't really lack the resources to house every homeless and give them food and healthcareanother weird non-sequitur.
I recommend you to re-read the post
>>2679032 and find a less complex, less hyperbolic, and closer reasoning to what the post intended.
>>2679048what a pathetic loser.
being called brat by another president.
>>2679060 (me)
>>2679048never mind, it says grat, not brat.
>>2679050Shit deal dude I hope you get free food and soda at least!
>40-60% of people who are homeless have a jobI was a gutterpunk years ago always in between silent-squatting abandoned buildings and camping out in vacant lots. I never met anybody on the streets that worked except for low level dealers and my crack-ho and gay jiggalo buds. Huh. Guess it depends on the town. I could make about $100 a day just from panhandling in front of the mcdonalds if I did it all day but maybe it's because i've got a pretty face.
>>2679062how bout the look on that prick's face when he saw the grat
>>2679065great*.
petro is a good doggo. he probably got the pat on the head and moved on to his dog house. he calls it, Colombia.
>>2679050The poor working settler is a minority. Over 70% of euro-amerikan households own a home.
>>2679035>Is that Houdini on the sidewalk?Kek
>>2679064No shift meals, no employee discount. Which really pissed me off. Management said people took advantage so it had to go, too expensive. Then there's the "no eating unclaimed food" rule, so if there's extra food that someone didn't pick up or was made, it has to be thrown away, or that's a write up.
>>2679079That sucks dude. If I were you I would just take the food anyway. If they fire you then just panhandle in the front every day and you will get more money and free food
>>2679022so many of these tiktok dystopia videos use radiohead songs from the 90s and 00s lol
YESTERDAY I WOKE UP SUCKIN ON LEMON
YESTERDAY I WOKE UP SUCKIN ON LEMON
>>2678841yes. buy high sell low. that's common sense. :^)
>>2679096>I don't know how you can hold down a job without access to a shower.A lot of people wet wipe it or use public bathrooms and wash up in the sink.
>>2678923>>2678470That's awesome anon but how is chatgpt going to arrest them? Is there an "agent" for that?
>>2678990Houdini dude you got to get out the damn motel. That's eating up all your damn money.
https://lakeland.craigslist.org/search/roo?max_price=700&min_price=300#search=2~gallery~12 I'm seeing stuff starting from $600/mo That's only $150 a week.
Maybe instead of paying your next rent just buy a bus ticket and find a better city to be homeless in if that city you're in really has nothing for you.
>>2679106Yeah, I know any time you start talking about any crimes of the bourgeious here that someone's got to give the ebic blackpill doomer response.
>uhhh why even mention it? Do you really think our corrupt government will do something about it?Not with that attitude. Jesus Christ. I didn't even say whether he is likely to be arrested or not but it is a thing right now. It's pretty serious. I just heard them interviewing Melinda about it on the radio. She just gave some non-answer kind of stuff but the story hasn't gone away yet, despite yours and Bill's desire to see it disappear.
>>2679099>Sixty iterations off the finite neocon curve, there's a Dick that works with more bombs than pedophiles partying. His name is Simple Neocon Dick, but he's no pedo. >He realized long ago that the greatest thing he'd ever create is his bloodlust for killing. >"I love BOMBING">We captured that moment, we run it on a loop through Simple Neocon Dick's mind, and the chemical it makes his brain secrete goes into every Simple Neocon Dick's Simple Wafers Wafer cookie. Come home to the impossible flavor of your own completion. Come home to Simple Neocon Dick's.>*Video ends showing Dick's face smiling in tears over the destruction of many countries.*neocons will patent his tears, make a cream out of it, and use it in these waffles cookies to remember times where being a neocon was simpler. Simple Dick's.
>>2679109This.
Or instead of paying for the greyhound get a copy of the latest Crewchange.
>>2679096>>2679105they also use gym's showers. depending on the city, ofc.
>>2679079Why would you go for fast food of all places? You're a big strong man, why don't you go for a laborer position? You told me you dug trenches before. Go for a general laborer position. Or go for sales, you're a sociable person right. That's an easy job to get.
>>2679109Maybe its the deposits and 1st and lasts months rent
>>2679120It depends. Some people even sublet rooms. He might be able to work something out with someone if he's charming enough.
>>2679123>depends entirely on who holds the gunsAhem. First time?
>>2679121I should not be grinning too much.
remember when jimmy dore underplayed the dangers of trump's coup attempt in 2020? him and some others on the left. yes, yes, it can be all blamed on the libs for their psychotic rant on russiagate. but still.
I warned people here, and many other places that trump was doing a coup, and people often was dismissive about my statements.
now it's prepare Uranuses, burgers!
>>2678950you are going to get a real, clear, and straightforward coup.
>>2679109I haven't been able to find a new home for my dog and none of those listings allow pets. The humane society doesn't have room. Short of abandoning him, which I could never, I've had a real hard time finding better housing than this.
If I didn't have the dog, I would probably be more accepting of being street homeless in general, to be honest with you.
https://ccc.ca.gov/If any of you anons are 25 or under and willing to move to cali, i did this and it helped me,
You can get state residency by opening a bank account in cali
>>2679130Yeah that's tough. I dunno, try making some posts on facebook or reddit in your local area about rehoming the dog? Yeah you would think there would be more resources than there are considering how much Americans are crazy about dogs.
<The Moral Stupefaction of the American Public>Atop its other outrages and illegalities, the Trump administration has taken to murdering boatloads of presumptively innocent people on the open seas. They’ve done it three times now and promise to keep at it. At a recent rally in Michigan, Vice President J. D. Vance joked, “I wouldn’t go fishing right now in that area of the world.”>Having litigated for much of my career against executive overreach, I strongly suspect that, before the killings started, some lawyer in the now all-but-empty halls of the Justice Department drafted a dense, footnote-studded memo that purports not only to justify this killing but to establish its lawfulness. These memos surface whenever someone in the executive branch is poised to do something that everyone knows is illegal. Before acting, they commission a morally parched lawyer to draft a memo that says it’ll all be okay. That was the purpose of the infamous “torture memos” drafted by John Yoo for the Bush administration, for instance, which pretended to prove that strapping a person to an inclined board and flooding water up his nose and down his throat to bring him within sight of his own death is perfectly compatible with the law.>By cloaking naked power in the trappings of the law, the Trump administration channels objections to its behavior into sterile disputes about who has the best lawyers.>It is possible that the Trump administration began its killing spree without first creating a paper trail; after all, this is an administration that looks at legal process the way a cow might look at leather boots if it knew how they were made. But that would be unusual, and there is at least some reason to doubt it. We know, for instance, that in July, the president signed a still-secret directive that ordered the Pentagon to use military force against Latin American drug cartels. The odds are good that this is either the memo I have in mind, or much more likely, that the July directive distills the conclusions of a legal memo that was written beforehand. Either way, I would be very surprised if the memo I’m describing does not exist.>These memos are not particularly difficult to draft; a reasonably competent second-year law student with a Westlaw account could write one. It wouldn’t be compelling as a matter of law—in fact, it would be legal drivel—but it’s not meant to be compelling. It’s meant to establish conclusively the appearance of lawfulness. This supplies a defense in case someone were so crass as to suggest that those responsible for the crime should be prosecuted. But since a prosecution would never be more than a fantasy, cutting it off at the knees is not the true reason these memos are conjured into existence.>More importantly, the memo is meant to establish that what took place was legitimate—that it was morally just. This may strike people as peculiar, since the document will not speak in what we understand as the language of moral choice. On the contrary, like the torture memos, it will studiously avoid what may sound to the American ear as empty moralizing, clinging instead to the safe but hollow conventions of legal analysis. It will cite and interpret scores of statutes, judicial decisions, treaties, executive orders, and learned treatises. Then, it will draw distinctions, make analogies, and reach conclusions. In short, it will look like what we call legal reasoning and will be sufficiently proximate to the real thing as to allow politicians and partisans to seize it as irrefutable proof of legality. They will hold the memo aloft and say, as they always do, “Quit your damn whining and fatuous accusations. It’s all perfectly legal.” Counterarguments that the memo is nothing more than blather on stilts will be dismissed as proof of the obvious: lawyers, like economists, disagree. Nothing to see here.>Of course, supposing the memo does exist and eventually comes to light, very few people will actually read it. Fewer still will study the many sources it cites; even fewer will claim any expertise in the seemingly esoteric legal principles it invokes. Critically, the people who draft the memo know all this. Indeed, they rely on it. They know full well that the memo will not be read and studied as a legal document—at least, not in the way a buyer and seller might study a contract to sell and buy a home. Instead, the authorities rely on the memo’s mere existence to establish their essential point, which is that everything is as it should be and that no one should be alarmed by what has been done. In that way, the document is not meant to be law. It is not meant, in other words, to be the neutral application of principles applied in good faith to resolve a dispute between parties over contested rights. Rather, it is meant to look like law, and by its existence, to establish legitimacy.>All of this has three baleful consequences, which are assiduously ignored in public debate.>First, by cloaking naked power in the trappings of the law, the Trump administration, like the Bush administration before it, channels objections to its behavior into sterile disputes about who has the best lawyers—a dispute that no one really expects to resolve. In fact, that channeling is already well under way; after the first bombing, the Miami Herald ran an article with the headline, “The U.S. blew up a drug boat in international waters. Was it legal?” It predictably consisted of experts on the left arrayed against officials in the administration. Think tanks quickly followed suit with their own analysis; both sides claim to have the better of the legal argument, and practically speaking, that’s the end of it. Simply as a matter of law, the administration’s argument is silly; there is no legal principle that authorizes the killing of presumptively innocent people on the high seas, and no amount of hand waving will transform the victims into “combatants” who may be lawfully targeted with lethal force, which is the linguistic legerdemain relied upon by the administration to drag this dispute into the domain of lawful warfare. But presumably, they have a lawyer who said otherwise, and for their purposes, that is more than enough.>Reducing this controversy to a debate about the law intensifies the ongoing moral stupefaction of the American public.>Second, by shunting objections into the dead-end of legality, the administration obscures its grotesque abuse of power. In Western democracies, law is power’s voice. That is especially true in the Trump administration, which relies on executive orders to transform society in a way that it could never achieve if it condescended to use the law-making apparatus contemplated by the Constitution—which is to say, through Congress—and which flouts judicial review as a threat to its authority. In February, Vance wrote on X that “judges aren’t allowed to control the executive’s legitimate power.” This tautology too is a piece of legerdemain, meant to insulate political power from critique.>Finally, reducing this controversy to a debate about the law intensifies the ongoing moral stupefaction of the American public. In a theocratic society, disputes are resolved by invoking a holy book; in our society, which claims to worship the rule of law, disputes are resolved by invoking the legal authority to act. The ultimate touchstone of this authority is the Constitution. In the United States, when people wonder whether something is right or just, they are not met with an answer that proves rightness or justice. Instead, they are told that it is legal, or even better, that it is constitutional (or, for some partisans, that it was or would have been approved by “the Founders,” a nebulous group that is treated with God-like reverence and imbued with God-like infallibility). Law-speak thus substitutes for moral judgment.>In other words, we are sold the myth that the language of legality is preferable to the language of morality because it is impartial and fixed. But as this whole dispute makes plain, that is least apt to be true precisely when it matters most. As the voice of bald power, law in this instance has no more legitimacy than any political act. >Unfortunately, the longer Americans indulge this mindless preference for the language of the law over morality, the weaker their moral voice becomes. In time, they lose the ability to say, forthrightly and without fear, that what the Trump administration has done is cold-blooded murder for which they and their partisans should be ashamed. They are forced to say, pathetically, that what the Trump administration has done is unlawful, instead of insisting, without hesitation or equivocation, that it is wrong.https://www.bostonreview.net/articles/the-moral-stupefaction-of-the-american-public/ >>2679130I will say I am willing to relocate anywhere I can be useful, and am looking to re-home my dog so that getting on a Greyhound is more feasible.
>>2679132Wawa has free jelly, and free saltines. Legit have had meals that have been just that. Instant coffee is super cheap. I don't know, I've never panhandled before, feels morally wrong to do so. But then again it feels morally wrong to beg for money online, so what do I know? I think the fundemental difference between my material conditions and everyone whom I know but is also poor's conditions? They have a family. They live with their parents. I have friends who are 33 and still live at home, don't pay rent. I got kicked out at 18 and was told that "in the real world, a man does it on his own" but I've been living in the real world for 10 years now, that's not how the real world works. "there's nothing lower than a man who asks for help" NO ONE THINKS THIS! Just ridiculous. It's days like these that I'm reminded I was accepted into LSU's honors program and had the potential for a future, only to have it ripped away by this idea that once you turn 18, no one owes you anything and if you dare need help? you're not even a man. IN THE REAL WORLD MOST PARENTS HELP WITH THE FAFSA!
I basically have two entirely different frameworks for living, one that I apply to myself, and another that I apply to everyone else. Everyone deserves to have housing vs What have I done to deserve housing? There's nothing wrong with asking for help vs "dont make your burden someone elses"
Probably could use therapy for that lmao, rough childhood type beat.
>>2679133I should make a post on the local reddit, good idea.
>>2679121It's true. Vooting infrastructure should be nationalized and uniform in every part of the country. It's absurd that they use diverse machines manufactured and run by diverse private companies. Also the voot machines should be running FOSS and independently auditable.
Mamdani should hire Houdini
>>2679111>despite yours and Bill's desire to see it disappear.Oh shit, busted. I was on bills pay roll all along. Thankfully our enemies are emotionally stunted clowns who consult chatgpt anytime someone asks them a question. Phew.
>>2679140I'm sorry you're upset, I don't think I will continue to engage with your silly aggro snark posts.
>>2679142I'm only upset that you didn't post more LLM slop that nobody gives a shit about.
:(
>>2679132https://archive.org/details/evasion_202203anybody remember this old rag?
The ideology is shit and the dude who wrote it is also a PoS but there are some good common street knowledge hints in there.
>>2679136Just try panhandling bro. It's fun: Be you. Don't act desperate. Make jokes about your situation in a way that implicates Capital, you can do it. Ask alt girls to take you home. Chicks love dogs and your dog might even get you access to a warm bed and some sympathetic middle class pussy if you play your cards right. You can also fly a sign offering to sell your dog and people will probably give you money just to keep taking care of it until you find a buyer.
>>2679148You, by exposing me as a bill shill you hurt me.
>>2679137>it's trueif you believe the insane gusano is speaking from the hearth, you will deserve what the gusanos want to do to Cubans; which is the same shit they intend to do it to you (
THE US) as well.
>>2679151Imagine actually believing in vooting lmao. But yeah to repeat myself if you want to have even the naive pretense of a "fair election" the infrastructure should be uniform and there should be only one uniform model of vooting machine produced by the state at the very least. It should also be FOSS and therefore independently auditable by international election observers.
>>2679156>Imagine actually believing in vooting lmao>lol, I should not use bourgeoisie tools, like vooting laws under bourgeoisie states, to get a revolution and defend a revolution, lmao at you!
>imagine actually believing in goons lmao>lol, I should not use bourgeoise tools, like weapons produced in bourgeoise factories, to defend a revolution, and fight the bourgeoisie, lmao at you!cope.
the gusano doesn't bring the subject for discussing a better system, but to do a coup.
>>2679147 (me)
Forgot to mention it's a good idea to panhandle with your zine merch for sale on a blanket so you can pick it up and walk away fast in case of 6-up. Most people will just give you money and not take the merch, some people will buy the merch for more than asking price.
>>2679149I just said you have the same position of not wanting it discussed. Him for obvious reasons, and you because you are an aggro contrarian faggot with nothing going on and nothing interesting to say.
>>2679162>>lol, I should not use bourgeoisie tools, like vooting laws under bourgeoisie states, to get a revolution and defend a revolution, lmao at you!Never has been and never will be a revolution caused by voting.
>lol, I should not use bourgeoise tools, like weapons produced in bourgeoise factoriesfalse equivalence.
>the gusano doesn't bring the subject for discussing a better systemI don't even know who that guy is I was just reacting to the surrealism of how it's seen as an absurd and far-fetched idea to have a uniform vooting process in the capitalist state with the second-highest GPD in the world.
>>2679136You're parents fucked you over.
>>2679174>Never has been and never will be a revolution caused by voting.Venezuela, more recently, Mexico.
yes. not perfect, not very deep, but yes. it was a paradigm shift.
>false equivalence.don't quote fallacies that you don't understand how they work.
>>2679156We should push for a united front, a continental congress of socialist or continental congress of communist, the National Assembly of socialist, the united national front. Idk just spitballing names, anyways we need one of these and all the parties in the U.S elect delegates and from there a leadership that can actually direct and utilize all our resources. Set national policy lines, get normies to vote in our elections as opposed to the states. I mean they’re talking about canceling the midterms anyways.
In this country we have
>Zog
Zionist occupied government
>pog
Pedofile occupied governmenr
>rog
Reddit occupied government
>sog
Stormfront occupied government
>mog
Miami gusano occupied government
>Pog
Podcaster occupied government
>kog
Kleptomaniac occupied government
>bog
Bourgeosie occupied goverment
Chomsky calling Epstein while visiting Lula in prison is such a surreal event it's hard to believe it's actually happened
>>2679123>>2679128Reads less like them seeing the law as completely arbitrary and more recognizing they've got a retard in charge.
>>2679180by all means, but it takes time to prepare a congress!
>>2679180Just go with what Big Bill Haywood said and call it "The Continental Congress of The Working Class"
Maybe just a "The Second Continental Congress" would be good for getting regular people interested. Though the problem is I don't think there are that many folks out there that could be considered significant enough "leaders" of the average American.
>>2679157Of course trump popped off epstein. Nobody talk about it or accepts it.
>>2679181>In this country we have PogNo nothing about this is Pog.
Nothing about this country is in any way shape or form Pog.
>>2679196but, am I understanding it correctly?
>that cares of Epstein as far trump is concernedor he talking about releasing the files?
>>2679180Why would we bother with any of this in a locale where the state and it’s institutions are already blowing their brains out for us, and where most of the people in the locale not only “hate da gobernment” anyways, but potentially hates the general concept of the government as well unconsciously.
>>2679176>Venezuela, more recently, Mexico.>revolutionPlease stop I'm dying over here fella
>don't quote fallacies that you don't understand how they work.How is vooting in bourgeois elections comparable to seizing arms for a revolutionary struggle? Really you're killing me.
>>2679181Now heres the real redpill.
They are all the same people.
>>2679180How about the National Socialist Front?
>>2679224Better yet a National Socialist Workers' Party!
>>2679234
What a fuckin pussy lol
>>2679222>>2679242ok, for the sake of not simply calling you ralib, let's go furhter:
the tzar allowed elections, the Bolshevik participated. and this, altogether with other types of praxis, led to the October revolution. abandoning electoral systems is what the right wants, translates into de-mobilized people.
radlib.
now:
>How is vooting in bourgeois elections comparable to seizing arms for a revolutionary struggle? Really you're killing me.don't invoke fallacies you don't understand.
both are sub-products of the bourgeoisie. the analogy works, and it's incredible I have to explain how fallacies works.
now go do sophisms and be a radlib elsewhere.
>>2679231Antifa supersoldiers,
ACTIVATION CODEWORD REQUESTED >>2679242>radlib.Do you even know what that word means,
you succdem faglord?
>the tzar allowed elections, the Bolshevik participated. and this, altogether with other types of praxis, led to the October revolutionWrong.
>>2679245>the tzar allowed elections, the Bolshevik participated. and this, altogether with other types of praxis, led to the October revolution >>2679253just saying "wrong" doesn't make it wrong, radlib.
>>2679257It's wrong because it's ahistorical, cuck. Read a book.
if i was president of leftypol i'd ban stupid reddit replies like these
>>2679257>>2679258>>2679248The codeword is
yuge.
Vanguard status?
>>2679259I rarely engage in petty puny posters, and those types of replies.
but no one should agree with a gusano. if a gusano says the sky is blue, question it.
>>2679202>>2679196>>2679157he's saying because Epstein "conspired" against Trump's re-election campaign that means Epstein and Trump were not on friendly terms, ergo Trump(referring to himself in third person) is exonerated from accusations of sex abuse. How does this need explaining, it's very straightforward Trump logic.
>>2679180>just spitballing nameswhy do college-age leftists keep doing this, thinking all you have to do to organize a parallel government is pick a good name and everyone will take you seriously.
>>2679282
looks like a waste of my time
>>2679282
You absolutely know these guys are all wife swapping and shit. The most chud of fetishes, even marx talked about that shit.
>>2679302
Take it to ISG, all these clowns will forget this in a week and remember they’re all massive hypocrites with no conviction and go back to grifting.
>>2679282
>>2679302
The entire conservative project is bullshit and evil. You never have to "hand it to them" on anything. If they told you the sky is blue you'd look out the window and see the sky suddenly turned green.
Never ever ever say
>they have a point
>a broken clock is right twice a day
>to play devil's advocate…
EVER
100% opposition in all cases.
>>2679325>vote bloo no matta whoono u
>>2679321I still dont know who that guy is but looks like a glowie
>>2679332that's joe slovo
>>2679270I dunno, it reads to me as a confession.
like, that's poor choice of words to imply that "Epstein and Trump were not on friendly terms, ergo Trump(referring to himself in third person) is exonerated from accusations of sex abuse".
>So that takes care of Epstein as far as Trump is concerned >>2679340I hope they all starve to death
>>2679338>>So that takes care of Epstein as far as Trump is concernedhe's saying "that settles the nature of the relationship between Epstein and Trump." He's full of shit obviously, they definitely raped children together, but I think it's a real stretch to call this any sort of Freudian slip.
>>2679356Honestly the pedophilias bad, but its the least of their crimes. Maybe Im just crazy, but I think we needed a mass revolt ages ago.
>>2679347
Probably just electrocuted his prostate like in Hannibal
I am now $150 short on my room rent which I need by tomorrow at 10am. Anything helps. Will be on the street if not. Been messaging everyone I know as well.
You can donate by cashapp (best way) to $jodiewodie
or you can donate via paypal
https://www.paypal.me/zomscar>Jewish billionaires control the government
<let’s imprison/execute billionaires then
>NOOOOOOOOOOO! we should target ordinary Jews and leave Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos alone!
This is how you /pol/tards sound
>>2679407The city is calling their bluff.
https://www.nola.com/news/crime_police/police-recruit-ice/article_fedd5753-eedf-42ba-885d-e3dd9fc3691c.html
<Attorney General Liz Murrill issued a statement Tuesday night, saying, “I have spoken with Chief Kirkpatrick about this. She says this individual was checked through E-Verify, and the City of New Orleans has adopted new policies and is cooperating with ICE. That said, I still have serious concerns about how this occurred and about the hiring process. I will continue to seek answers from all parties involved.” Goes to show that all of this going on is messy at best, and completely incompetent and arbitrary at worst. The feds don’t have any of their shit in order. This country is so corrupt that it’s likely federal and state officials are too busy doing Epstein shit to pay any attention to their jobs.
apparently the little temple at epstein's island was called Five Palms and had a bunker below it
https://xcancel.com/abcdentminded/status/2018537715927802363>>2679437>literally every space dominated by low I.Q. rightoids was spawned by EpturdLol
Lmao
Ahahhahahahahahaha
>>2679437things are getting kinda weird but i always suspected bitcoin was a psyop by the wealthy to facilitate untaxed wealth transfers and "satoshi" was just their employee.
trump must feel invincible.
he duped an entire nation that he cares about people, that he can get people to vote for a pedo, and get away with it.
>>2679397Best of luck either way.
Stay warm, keep safe.
>>2679362
So neo-4chan speak is just how epstein actually talked like?
Jesus christ
>>2679366The conditions for mass revolutionary politics are gradually emerging due to many factors, including: the looting of the working class and of social resources by finance capital, which intensified after 2008; the proletarianization brought on by technical innovations like AI; and the exposure of the crimes of the bourgeoisie, demonstrating the fiction of bourgeois morality and democracy in plain sight. Initially, actions may be taken by single actors or groupings of the narodnik type, but as material conditions continue to degenerate mass action will become possible. I think it's already close enough to the end that most people facing incarceration for acts of individual terror will outlast this bourgeois dictatorship.
>>2679474 Show me real wages since 2008 to prove if amerikan proles are richer or poorer from imperialism
>>2679466
The Hindutva Occupied Government is real
>>2678433Epstein did kill himself.
>>2679407>>2679416white supremacist fascist country. if you're non white, leave the USA now. if you're a foreigner do not enter the USA under any circumstance. it is a matter of time before they start systematically killing people.
>>2679510There is no fascism in USA.
>>2679510The US is a brown man's country
You get out crakkker
>>2679474I've been saying this. out of all first world countires america is unique good grounds for revolutionary politics for several reasons.
>poor social saftey net>high wealth inequality>Boomers are about to die off and leave little of their wealth>massive national debt>Institutional barriers like the senate filibuster make social democratic reforms impossible unlike european countries>population thats used to violence and shootings >>2679524Come to the US and make brown babies xir
>>2679540Although, regarding Wolff, it should probably also be mentioned that he's one of those who never talks about the israelis and tows the line that putin is the worst person in the world. But anyways, the timeline which he lays out there is pretty interesting
>>2679472not only did he found it he probably shitposted on there.
>>2679563
it's a damn funny image, also thanks to whoever posted it because i've been waiting to find this
>>2679586
Why re people always so obssessed with language and wether or not something is hyperbole?
>>2679586
sounds like a lot of posters here concern trolling
>>2679586
Anarchists are an impotent joke who will never accomplish anything. Also at this point it's completely valid to point out that at least 80% of practicing jews are openly zionist.
>>2679588No understanding of dialectical materialism. Treating language as something which *independently* shapes or even meaningfully influences reality is pure idealism. Language is reflective and co-constitutive.
>>2679598prove "dialectics" are a real thing and not something that just happens in language
>>2679608why don't you prove that you are not an absolute idiot instead?
>>2679443doesn't 'Satoshi Nakamoto' translate to central intelligence?
>>2679618I accept your concession
>>2679586
That reddit sub is 80% feds/bots and 20% teenage radlibs, saw one guy there saying that hitler should be "resocialized" in the prison system lmao.
>>2679619>the article Epstein linked Its Boris that linked the article. Not that I know who this Boris guy is but he sure had a boner for Moot.
Hasan in the files
>>2679273Pud da flower into the gun
>>2679637the hacker known as 4chan
>>2678949Dan Bilzerian was weirdly present at the Las Vegas concert shooting as well. He was running around during the active shooting asking random people for a gun lol
>>2679646
you need to go back
>>2679646
Bait
>>2679586
literally all of this is true lol, what are you idiots losing your mind over?
>>2679651>tries to explain that epstein wasn't behind /pol/ and the alt-right and i'ts more complex>doesn't explain why i'ts more complex>says you being le heckin conspiratoid and anti-semiticIn my opinion thats the reason why he is wrong.
>>2679651you're israeli + a concern troll + no one is falling for this shit anymore
>>2679654there is no evidence beyond a coincidental date that epstein was "behind /pol/ and the alt-right", literally none, the actual reason /pol/ exists was because of moot and also others on 4chan's backlash against neo-nazis (stormfront in particular), you can search this up if you don't believe me, also conspiratorial thinking is a huge problem in general, if you fall into it, you cannot be trusted, and thus you have to correct for it, likewise people keep spreading the child cannibalism nonsense, which is still not evinced despite claims to the contrary, every bit is correct in that post even if it isn't explained
>>2679483Unfortunately AI generated. you can tell because the titles on the spines of the books are muddy, the digital date stamp on the handicam uses an apostrophe (those usually don't do that) and there's no time, and finally, most obviously , it's bill clinton as he looked in the 1990s mixed with Donald Trump as he looks now.
>>2679657Somebody wants to be pure and correct instead of winning.
>>2679648>>2679650my apologies for not reading it fully, i thought this was a comment calling out for /pol/tards using epstein to attack jews and point out ZOG theory but that post was just denial of epstein links with rightoids, you were right
>>2679657>>2679657>the actual reason /pol/ exists was because of moot and also others on 4chan's backlash against neo-nazis ahhahahahahah moot created /news/, closed it down for having too many nazis, then opened up /pol/ again despite realizing it would create the same problem on the same week he met epstein. but it's all jUsT a CoInCiDeNcE!!1!
you sound just like those libsharts who denied the 1953 coup in Iran until it was finally declassified, in 2013. Just understand that the reason people infer information about the ruling class is because the entire political system is designed to serve them and cover up their crimes. Asking cui bono is basic stuff.
>>2679662they aren't, otherwise the right wouldn't be consistently "winning" while spreading nothing but lies all of the time.
that doesn't mean we have to stoop to their level but there is a correct way to engage in politics. don't give your enemy freebies just because you're afraid to engage with certain conversations.
when normies see this epstein stuff their natural response is being appalled by all the cannibalism, child rape, and jewish supremacy/racism in the emails. telling them "it's not true don't believe your eyes" isn't gonna win you any supporters. the right-wing are more than happy to twist this into fitting their narrative that jews are satan worshipers etc. what's our narrative going to be to counter it while still acknowledging the contents of the emails? how do we capitalize on the situation in a way that normies can understand and find comfort in?
because the "muh antisemitism" cope and denying the contents of the emails just gives the right-wing complete control of the conversation.
>>2679663>those libsharts who denied the 1953 coup in Iran until it was finally declassified, in 2013adding onto this point… you ever notice how with libsharts it goes like this
denial → denial → denial → cold angry silence when finally proven wrong with their "beyond a shadow of a doubt" information
instead of
denial → denial → denial → ok you were right I was wrong let me help you spread the truth.
Really makes you think.
>>2679668did you reply to the wrong post sir?
>>2679657>there is no evidence beyond a coincidental date that epstein was "behind /pol/ and the alt-right"In the files he says something like "you know moot, /pol/ should stay cause i'ts a good way to keep people distracted", he may have not created it but he was one of the people who pushed for that, and there is also the fact that he belived in rightoid talking points like "race and autism score shit", talking about returning to muh tradition or that time where he talked like a /pol/tard multiple times with other associates. Epstein is heavily implied to have been using pol, he din't created the alt-right but he pushed the snowball that culminated into it.
>also conspiratorial thinking is a huge problem in general, if you fall into it, you cannot be trusted, and thus you have to correct for it, likewise people keep spreading the child cannibalism nonsense, which is still not evinced despite claims to the contrary, every bit is correct in that post even if it isn't explainedI actually agree with this one here what you say, i just think there is some stuff that is not just schizo conspiracy.
>>2679667liberals are fascists. there is nothing a US fascist wants to do to anyone in this country that liberal administrations have not directly done, or indirectly supported, being done to millions of people for decades in other countries. Their voters support this, they just get mad when the cognitive dissonance they operate under gets pierced. A "fascist" is like a liberal who has lost that cognitive dissonance but refuses to give up on this system for what it is in all of it's ugliness.
>>2679671>conspiratorial thinkingthis is just libshart speak for noticing who benefits from events which have the surface appearance of being random
>>2679661You're illiterate
>>2679663>but it's all jUsT a CoInCiDeNcEyes actually, nothing he said in that email even implies /pol/ or something similar, he could very well have meant as a way to build more secure applications so people like him could run with less risk of being detected, and so on, and also you can't create an imageboard in 1 day, the timing doesn't match up at all with how long it'd actually take, but you can also just keep being an arrogant prick if you want
>>2679675>also you can't create an imageboard in 1 dayare you an idiot?
like half the users here have probably hosted their own imageboard and know this isn't true. you can make a board in like 30 seconds. it doesn't require anything besides running a few commands.
>>2679666>what's our narrative going to be to counter it while still acknowledging the contents of the emails?The left should be the party that is pushing more transparency about Epstein rather than telling people what to think about it. Like, the left should be about making demands. So what's the left's demand here.
>>2679671>I actually agree with this one here what you say, i just think there is some stuff that is not just schizo conspiracy.Yeah. Well you have to discern from anonymous tips from schizos that were released but which are probably just schizos. Also, even if the most far-fetched claims in those tips are true, it's also kind of a problem as any defense attorney could argue for a mistrial if the DOJ now prosecuted anybody involved in it.
>>2679677i should clarify, you can't create a board like that without preperation, you can crank out 67120 imageboards with generic stuff but with what 4chan used it certainly wasn't as easy
>>2679666>they aren't, otherwise the right wouldn't be consistently "winning" while spreading nothing but lies all of the time.they win because they appeal to bourgeois sensibilities, their victories are actively enabled due to that, and likewise most of their wins are temporary
>don't give your enemy freebies just because you're afraid to engage with certain conversationshere's the thing, you can salvage the basis of the epstein-right wing connection, you just have to use things that we can at least prove, many of the people connected to epstein who were politicians were right wingers and even liberals, that's ammunition on its own, that the bourgeois system is run by crooks who will turn a blind eye to rape, sex trafficking, child sexual abuse, etc if it means they can gain profit and power, that alone is stronger than even "epstein did /pol/"
>denying the contents of the emails just gives the right-wing complete control of the conversationnot everything is gonna be true in 3.5 million documents, the evidence just isn't there
>>2679677you can make an imageboard in one day but you can't quickly populate it with thousands upon thousands of reichwing manipulable dumbasses. that takes years of concentrated effort
>>2679660You can’t win if you don’t know what the fuck is going on
Thinking you can bullshit and kayfabe into the universe giving you what you want just means you’re setting yourself up to fail
In the long run
Americans at this point are gonna be taught the hard way that yes, reality exists and doesn’t give a fuck about your “vibes”
>>2679674I am not illiterate anon, i just did a mistake because i was on phone and apologized, why you must be a dismissive piece of shit like 90% of users here.
Fucking kill yourself
>>2679657Why do you care about trying to bring nuance into this and give the alt-right an exit ramp? Even if Epstein wasn’t directly involved, which is a big if since we know he was a poster, he met with moot, there’s pictures of Epstein and moot together. The fact is the alt-right has always been a pro-pedophile ideology and has always had connections to dark money billionaires who know we’re fucking kids.
>>2679687hey buddy, about you look above you before you start calling this a "exit ramp for the alt-right" despite the fact all i'm asking is you go off the best evidence, all i'm asking is "don't fall for conspiratorial thinking, understand reality", this should not be that controversial
>>2679688why does tardstein always use = when meant to type e, they aren't close to each other on the keyboard. not even the dvorak
>>2679696i would rather listen to a stalin audiobook than 1 second of parenti
>>2679691hey buddy how about you drop your 'nostalgic thinking', stop being an apologist for a government honeypot website and stop being a parasocial defender of some sperg that met up with actual sex criminals because this is what your tone-deaf 'nuance' comes across. Not even redditors are this pathetic at this point with actual CIA agents on their board and maxwell being a top karmawhore.
>>2679700Lol, yeah. At this point anti-conspiracionist nuance understanders aren't sober rationalists, at best they are vulgar materialists or worse straight up apologist shills.
>>2679697Some people are saying that these are artefacts from the scanning and text mining process.
>>2679706hmm maybe, but most of the lowercase and uppercase E are still in tact, and I've seen really old shitty scans of books published in the 70s and scanned in the 00s where that doesn't happen
>>2679678>Like, the left should be about making demands. holy liberalism, have you been reading Chomsky or Steven Pinker or something like that?
thats all "the left" already does, just making demands
>>2679696Parenti is not endorsing being a vibes-moron “nOtIcEr” in that clip
There is a difference between “conspiracies happen sometimes” and “THE TINFOILS ARE RIGHT TRVST THE PLAN”
>>2679362>>2679472"goy" is just an exonym slur for gentiles and "sportsball" is a term making fun of sports fanatics going back to the 00s or even possibly the 90s. Not everything comes from 4klan.
anyway I want the justice dept. ID on that screenshot. people are doing a lot of lazy photoshops for humor on twitter. i could totally see epstein calling bannon goycattle in a conversation, "playfully" but you never know.
>>2679713>>2679678I’ll pitch again, second continental congress dedicated to arresting and prosecuting the Epstein pedo ring. That’ll wipe out at least like 40% of the Zionist and turbo reactionaries in government and stain the right wing for decades to come.
==ANTI-COMMUNISM IS JUST PEDOS AND GENOCIDE
>>2679713>thats all "the left" already does, just making demandsnot to mention without any leverage, whatsoever
>>2679714>THE TINFOILS ARE RIGHT TRVST THE PLANstrawman, you are the one being a vibes mioron in this conversation by extrapolating shit nobody said from your "opponents"
To distract from the Epstein files and the collapse of the dollar, where will trump invade next? Cuba? Mexico? Iran?
>>2679721they won't invade, they'll just do proxy wars. I think Iraq/Afghanistan/Vietnam style shit is no longer in the empire's ability and they're trying to hide that fact from everyone. Look at Cuckraine for example. Abrams and Leopards getting rekt by old shitty soviet equipment.
>>2679723>back to the Stain universe*from the stain universe
>>2679362>>2679715The "r u a commie" screenshot is real. The second one is an obvious joke since they didn't even change the time.
You can easily check if anything is real by just typing keywords into the search engine on the .gov site. I typed "commie" and it was one of a dozen results.
>>2679464I mean it makes sense. Trump was president when Epstein was killed.
>>2679551Yeah, he was there a lot until he got locked up.
He was in those threads, eyes wide open or something, doing redirections to pizza nonsense. Just like Isaac kappy stuff, it was to make the story too ridiculous for normies to believe but mainly to take advantage of users drawn to the subject because of their own wounds, and they created a cult around the 'mysterious' qanon.
This caused even more ridiculous claims to be made at the time to thus provide plausible deniability and cover for the conspirators now revealed in the emails.
>>2679540>in 2007 jeffrey epstein entered into a non prosecution agreement with the federal governmentok i'm gonna use the capitalist playbook and call this the epstein-bush pact
>>2679678>but which are probably just schizos.I would trust a literal schizo to be closer to the truth about any subject than any liberal.
>>2679632ha san in the fil=s? . ,
>>2679738but anon …. many schizos ARE libs
>>2679678why did the mood suddenly shift to leftists being on the defensive when it comes to the epstein files? what is this shit? why are we playing damage control for the pedos? i don't care if the emails are "true" or not or whether it's enough for a prosecution. these people need the gulags and we should be agitating for normies to get angry.
how is everyone such a defeatist making excuses for the evil people that rule over us?
>>2679744Do you think m00t wished to be the little girl so Epstein would like him more?
>>2679750So the famed discord transhumanists and grooming gangs of 4chan were always just an Epstein op?
>>2679752so pink is green and up is diagonal?
>>2679750ngl things were better back then. femboys are way hotter now but somewhere along the way they lost the innocence of the 00's.
>>2679745The hard truth is that Americans are not only aware of the crimes of their overlords but actively support them because they believe their rituals are necessary to maintain their quality of life
>>2679746but can we talk about how hypocritical americans are about animals for a second?
they really just see how awful and hostile capitalism is to animals, how it leaves them at the mercy of an already heartless society and then call it "cat distribution system" like it's a whimsical thing as if most shelters weren't forced to sacrifice these animals so often, as if they didn't made fun of "cat ladies" whose biggest crime was have too big of a heart to leave these animals, despite their house smelling like cat piss.
>>2679758it's even more stupid, American culture is so brainrotten with hyperindividualism and the commodification of identity through media that they have become their worldview essentially a hollywood production.
>>2679758>Americanswhich ones?
>are not only aware of the crimes of their overlordseven the ones that can't answer basic questions and don't think about anything ever?
>but actively support themactively? must americans are inactive. their "support" for the elite manifests not as activity (like joining the military and helping invade iraq) but as inactivity (refusing to do anything about the ruling class).
>because theywhich ones
>believehow do you know
>their ritualsrituals? what does that have to do with class struggle
>are necessary to maintain their quality of life?even the homeless, americans? imprisoned americans? americans living in their cars? americans whose rent and utilities exceed their income? americans in debt? americans one accident away from homelessness? americans in dead end jobs?
>>2679768
that post was sarcastic, anon
>>2679745I dont really see it as being on the defensive. What I do see are anons blaming other anons for not "doing" something about it and that they are actually implicit and support everything Epstein did like the few chucklefuck posters above me.
>>2679765>as if they didn't made fun of "cat ladies" whose biggest crime was have too big of a heart to leave these animals, despite their house smelling like cat piss.don't glorify cat ladies. most animal abuse cases come from those places.
>>2679769The vast majority of Americans are willing and eager collaborators in the rape and exploitation of the third world and look on their Satanic pedophile elites with admiration or at worst jealousy, no amount of Reddit snark is going to change that
Uncomfortable Truthnuke, but if the vast majority of Americans weren’t collaborators then your pathetic nation would have become a dictatorship of the proletariat by the 1960’s at the very latest
>>2679777Imperialism has been better materially for the US population than socialism would be, especially before the onset of the computer
>>2679774I think you meant complicit?
I think the cucklefunk is rageb8 but I could be wrong. Peace.
>>2679781Myself? My only agenda is to laugh at American impotence and the national socialists that make up the “left”
>>2679777That wouldn't have been possible because even if Americans had class consciousness the racial divisions at the time would've made proletariat revolution impossible.
America at its core is a nation founded on racism, and until you address that we will never achieve class solidarity. America has no nationalist identity, no national ideology that can unify people the way China or Russia did. It's just a nation of atomized individuals existing in the same space while finding eachother's presence inconvenient.
>>2679742if a random homeless schizo told me he was trafficked by satanic elites I would believe them, libs will say "he is just a schizo, trust the Chomsky class, we should be demanding more from our epsteinite institutions"
>>2679784Seems more like a demoralization attempt to me
>>2679780Meant to write implicitly support, but yeah complicit works better I suppose.
>>2679781Doesn't have one. He's as powerless as the average American but this is an uncomfortable fact for him so he needs to vent and project. Kinda sad but it is what it is.
>>2679789Misery loves company.
>>2679789Well I’d like to demoralize you from fixing up the fourth Reich and letting it ravage the earth for your expanded treat intake, anything to save lives
>>2679786>America has no nationalist identity, no national ideologyYou say like that’s a bad thing. If America was filled with peasants, this would be bad.
>>2679758I've met the true blue patriot type and they genuinely believe USA good and freedom and democracy. You can rub their nose in US atrocities, support of dictatorships, etc. and it does nothing because they are so brainwashed that they can always justify it. That's not to downplay the material self-interest, but there is a strong ideological component.
>>2679784>America at its core is a nation founded on racismPropose any concrete effort to address this on /leftypol/ and you get called an idpol obsessed radlib.
>>2679795Why’d you say this then?
>Imperialism has been better materially for the US population than socialism would be,How does this help you achieve your goal?
>>2679801he is a glowie and his goal is derailing threads. as such, he achieves his goal spewing shit like this.
>>2679745>why did the mood suddenly shift to leftists being on the defensive when it comes to the epstein files?is just the usual 3-4 resident democrat dickriders that suffer from terminal liberalism
>>2679657Nah, I'm going to spread the word that epstein was behind all of that. Cry more, /pol/turd
>>2679657"Devil's advocates" deserve the rope same as fascists.
>>2679776notice how this bozo just repeated his BurgerThesis without even answering the post he was pretending to reply to
>>2679798Every TWister who says false consciousness isn’t real is just confessing that they’re shut-ins who don’t talk to people
>>2679842may the bullets of yemeni gigachads pierce the hearts of the pedophile kings of riyadh
>>2679843what I find more obnoxious is the way they dress up trickle down economics in marxist language
>>2679846That too, the MUH TREATS argument is literally bourgeois economics wearing a Sakai mask
>>2679838What’s there to debate? You fundamentally depend on the American system of rape and exploitation of the periphery to maintain your lifestyles, and when push comes to shove you will die fighting for your treats. That’s just a fact and the most you can ever do is deflect
>>2679854you would have said the same thing about Russian workers in 1910
>>2678433late archives
i hesitated to archive the previous thread
>>2677075 until now because it was actively getting new replies by the time i realized this one was made.
>>2679586
he's right. people here have been making wild conclusions off of the epstein files too.
>>2679854why do third worldists always come off as either outright glowies or as jealous fucks who envy imperial core proles' treats? there is zero merit to your 'analysis' and your shitposts and bait are /pol/level garbage.
>>2679842Saudis? Involved in international sex-trafficking and prostitution? Out of all the people involved in this story, truly the most shocking. Gulf Arabs have the most sterling reputation when it comes to that sort of thing. /s
Epstein probably had to stop going to Arab sex parties because it was too much even for him.
>>2679786>>2679798>America at its core is a nation founded on racismin fact, this is correct. this is lincoln, the
'great emancipator' of the black folk.
<Address on Colonization to a Deputation of Colored Men
>You and we are different races. We have between us a broader difference than exists between almost any other two races. Whether it is right or wrong I need not discuss; but this physical difference is a great disadvantage to us both, as I think. Your race suffer very greatly, many of them, by living among us, while ours suffer from your presence….>You are cut off from many of the advantages which the other race enjoys. The aspiration of men is to enjoy equality with the best when free, but on this broad continent not a single man of your race is made the equal of a single man of ours. Go where you are treated the best, and the ban is still upon you. I do not propose to discuss this, but to present it as a fact with which we have to deal. I cannot alter it if I would. It is a fact about which we all think and feel alike, I and you. We look to our condition. Owing to the existence of the two races on this continent, I need not recount to you the effects upon white men, growing out of the institution of slavery.he wanted to send blacks asking for emancipation either to Panama or Liberia.
this is why I said burgers ITT, leave your country, there's no hope. they will never give you emancipation, and it would be better to leave now than wait for your government to send you to alligator alcatraz or to the cecot.
>>2679854you were asked several questions and ignored them. if you bothered to read them, you would have realized I wasn't even questioning your thesis of burger complicity in imperialism, I was questioning the idea that most americans are
>awareand
>actively supportimperialism because most of them are actually ignorant retards who can't even answer basic historical questions about their own country, let alone anything that goes on outside of it (so, not "aware" but in fact completely ignorant on average) and also the support for American imperialism takes, on average, the form of
inactivity rather than
activity. To
actively support American imperialism I think one would have to join the military, or a mercenary company, or work for an arms manufacturer, or be in the government at some level (not counting a civil servant like a postman). By that metric, only about 1-10% of Americans
actively and
knowingly support imperialism, while the rest
inactively and
unknowingly simply allow it to continue. That question is entirely aside from the issue of whether they "benefit" from it. I think truly understanding Amerikkka means not fooling yourself about how ignorant and inactive most burgers are. These people are for the most part asleep. Let's steelman your question of benefit. Let's ASSOOM in your favor that most burgers are labor aristocrats or petty bourgeois and therefore "benefit" from imperialism, even here the question of "benefit" needs to be divided between short term and long term, relative and absolute.
Do Americans benefit from imperialism in the short term? Maybe. In the long term? Absolutely not. Imperialism paints a target on their backs, makes them the enemy of the world. When the bourgeoisie hide in their nuclear bunkers in New Zealand, it is the downwardly mobile labor aristocrat and petty bourgeoisie who will suffer the wrath of the rest of the world for what their masters did. They will get hit with the imperial boomerang, the blowback, and they will either be killed, or fall into the ranks of the proletariat once more.
And what of relative and absolute? Relative to the rest of the world maybe the average American benefits from imperialism. But in absolute terms? No. This imperialist world run by American unipolar hegemony is much worse than the socialist world we could have had. So no.
This entire "debate" has been had over and over on here. But my strongest argument against you types is this: Even if Americans benefit from imperialism, in both long in and short term, in both relative and absolute, even if you're right about everything, we should still be agitating Americans to be class traitors, rather than pushing them into the arms of their bourgeoisie. That is where your position becomes a strategic failure.
Update on my manager who likes Parenti: he offered to lend me his copy of Blackshirts and Reds and he’s reading “Revolutionary Suicide” by Huey P. Newton.
We talked Lenin on the sales floor.
>>2679688I mean, all it really is someone who didnt decide it, say that microtransactions would also indocrinate kid into economy and that is good. The profit seeking is still the main factor
>>2679864>stay in amerikkka<you are kkkollaborator>leave amerikkka<you are expat kkkolonizerdamned if you do damned if you don't
>>2679863I don't feel like enough people know this. But Saudis are like Epstein times 1000. They have full diplomatic immunity in America and England to rape and murder whoever they want.
https://www.queerty.com/saudi-prince-accused-of-forcing-maids-to-watch-as-he-was-stroked-by-young-male-aide-20151021/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3281354/I-prince-want-Saudi-royal-Prince-Majed-bin-Abdullah-bin-Abdulaziz-Al-Saud-accused-cocaine-fueled-rage-threatened-kill-Los-Angeles-mansion-staff-watched-pleasured-male-aide.htmlEXCLUSIVE: 'I am a prince and I do what I want.' Cocaine-crazed Saudi royal 'threatened to kill Los Angeles mansion staff who watched him being pleasured by male aide' > Prince Majed bin Abdullah bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, 29, made unwanted sexual advances at three female workers, court documents reveal> 'He held parties between September 21 and September 22 where cocaine was used, alcohol was consumed and escorts were brought in,' they claim> 'Tomorrow I will have a party with you and you will do everything I want or I will kill you,' prince is accused of saying to worker, a married mom> The women say they tried to leave the mansion but were locked in by Al Saud's aides > Prince Majed was arrested last month and accused of forced oral copulation of an adult after neighbors spotted crying and bleeding womanThis faggot the feds secreted him away to his private jet before he could be charged.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/oct/05/saudi-arabia-prince-court>Saud bin Abdulaziz bin Nasir al Saud, a grandson of the billionaire king of Saudi Arabia, is accused of killing his male aide in a brutal attack in a luxury London hotel room earlier this year.
>The bloodied body of the 32-year-old servant, Bandar Abdulaziz, referred to in court simply as Bandar, was found in a suite at the five-star Landmark Hotel on 15 February after his master raised the alarm, claiming Bandar was suffering the effects of an earlier street robbery.This(picrel) faggot murdered his Black sex slave in Britain and they just told him he had been a naughty boy and sent him back home to Arabia. Notice how his "servant" or "aide" has the same last name as him?
>>2679870I am not saying to rich kids to leave the US. a random Joe or Jane leaving the US, with little to no money can't colonize shit.
>>2679864everyone who knows anything about burger history knows lincoln was a centrist cuck freesoiler on the question of emancipation. actual white abolitionists who held office were people like Thaddeus Stevens, and actual white abolitionists in practice were people like John Brown. Obviously America in 1860 would never have elected an actual abolitionist president. It's remarkable that even Thaddeus Stevens held office. What is really interesting about the Civil War is that it is the Confederates who started the war, and therefore made it possible for emancipation to become a military and strategic goal of the union. The union rejected emancipation when it was merely a moral or political goal. But as soon as the question of "preserving the union" became the chief military aim in the civil war, emancipation in 1863 logically followed, since emancipated black soldiers were useful in defeating the confederacy. Bolivar in South America softened on the question of Abolition after receiving military aid from post-revolutionary Haiti under president Alexandre Pétion. You can see all over the New World, which is universally European settler colonies at this point, with only varying levels of indigenous participation, rather than total indigenous control, similar patterns in the quest for emancipation throughout the 1700s and 1800s.
>>2679874i would be chinese already if it were that simple
>>2679750moot didn't meet Epstein until 2011, which is after pretty much any pic of moot cross-dressing
>>2679883apologies, i didn't intend for that post to be taken seriously
>>2679866Let me make this really simple for you because you seem to be operating under the delusion that a “leftist” America would be communist and not even more imperialist to subsidize the extended gibs programs. America as it stands under the control of national conservatives and based retards is only a threat to itself and its neighbors. A “communist” America is an existential threat to the entire world, the herrenvolk would be united in their desire to subjugate the periphery to unimaginable poverty so that their socialist utopia can thrive. It’s so simple even a child could understand it. Are you a child?
And again, since you retards don’t get it, America’s very existence into the 21st century is physical proof of active and willing collaboration between American imperialism and Americans
>>2679887Yes I’m sure a very convincing Reddit post said so
>>2679890>>2679891Lovestonite revisionism is peak reddit
>>2679855lol, that's pretty brainy for standup comedy
>>2679887> you seem to be operating under the delusion that [bunch of shit i never said]>can't quote a single thing i actually saidhave a nice day time waster
>>2679870The only winning move is to not care about them bruh. They’ve never once risked their neck for you and find anything from poverty to mass shootings funny. There’s no reason to consider them an “ally” that you have to “prove yourself to”, fuck em.
>>2679892>sucking your own dick on an imageboardLmao loser
>>2679657Assuming this isn't some damage control attempt by a rightoid or a glowie, the mistake that you are making is to think that the evidential playing field is even remotely close to fair in the US. The "reasonable" thing to do if we followed this ahistorical principle would be to wait for further evidence to arise before we make a judgment. Consider who's in charge, who has the power to let the evidence go, who has the most influence in shaping culture in America, and who might have the least interest in letting his worst truths come out: the right, and the people connected to Epstein. Trump fills both of those boxes. Do you think they're going to let the proper evidence come out for the sake of truth, or do you think they'll continue to lie, deceive, distract, ignore like they've always done, from COINTELPRO to the right-grifters?
But let's grant that maybe we shouldn't be overly committed to the belief. This still warrants suspicion. Not just because Epstein literally had his eyes on 4chan before its mainstream political relevance and the suspiciously close dates. It's because we also know that Epstein was extremely well connected to the point of having international political influence, and is connected to Mossad by Ghislaine Maxwell (and her father Robert, whose business practices made academic publishers so hated and inspired the founding of sci-hub). It's because we know that all sorts of groups have been attempting to influence large websites like 4chan and Reddit for some time now, including Stormfront and the U.S. government, so he's not even special in that sense. And it's because neither evidence nor accountability will come about from holding back from action due to a lack of evidence. If someone is running away from a dead body, do you ignore him because there's not enough evidence that he's the murderer?
The hegemony and influence of the US Empire, declining as it may be, means that there will never be sufficient evidence. We must justify our strategy from the context of the tactical history of American empire-building, the practices and interests of the US empire and its bourgeoisie, and the lack of transparency. I don't think that Epstein being influential on 4chan is even the worst thing the guy has done. But this aims straight for the heart of right-wing fantasies about them being the real independent thinkers and makes some of them suspect that they were pawns all along. For the rest, it's awkward to talk about, which is why you have weirdos like Fuentes act like Epstein was their guy and was based all along.
But if you still want to stick with this ahistorical method of investigation, the burden of proof is not on the left here. Not that the right will ever answer that burden properly, but it's not our job to give them the right answers. An honest liberal wouldn't want to put words in their mouths and make a strawman out of them, do they?
>>2679745I assume that someone still really believes in the Philosophy 101 "proper formal argument" stuff and the Kantian ideal of telling the truth no matter what. But there's been so many shitty posts on this site that it could just be some glowie trying to weaken the outrage.
>>2679901>Food is cheap here. Water is cheap here. Rent is cheap here. Cars are cheap here.Am I going crazy or is this part taken word for word from
The West Wing which is peak 1990s neoliberal propaganda. This character gets a bunch of people protesting free trade to go home by explaining to them that it benefits them.
>>2679881I've seen people, entire families, living countries with just raggy backpacks and torn shoes.
obviously, for them was a death or alive matter, simply survival.
for ideological left-wing people it's not a survival matter. that's why they don't encourage to leave or leave.
but I am right. the US ruling class will call all the reactionary collaborators around the world to build up an army to fight you in the moment you have the slightly chance to emancipate. you'll see the most impressive class collaboration ever.
>>2679910it had you going? it's clearly satirical. I think you're just dumb sorry
thread successfully derailed 😎😎😎
>>2679924TRVKE. I almost replied to this shitty derail even though it's the same exact spam as every day. People think he's claiming that third worlders don't have cell phones and internet because he's ignorant, but he's just posting stupid lies so people will be driven to DEBOONK him.
>>2679931Oh, looking again,
>Year>2009Yeah probably just because the information is dated as fuck.
>>2679932
the fuck is a trccn and why should I care
>>2679929
I'm calling these people a bunch of internet-addicted misanthropes with nothing of value to say.
>>2679935Totally really crazy cool uygha.
>>2679941
neat
>>2679939They annoy me.
>>2679940aw shucks
>>2679922
>Nigeria not third world
ok tell us an example of a third world country or what metric to use
>>2679908I fucking hate aaron sorkin so much man
>>2679935he's calling you a slur for trans people but trying to get around a word filter lol
>>2679942Mike Johnson was also arguing that Pope Leo doesn’t understand the Bible earlier too.
>>2679952Daily reminder that the series ends with them heroically cutting social security because “it’ll collapse”.
Funny enough if you watch the show you get the impression it’s about Republicans because all the characters despise “loony leftists” and love Republicans.
>>2679952joss whedon gets treated as the #1 soyjak burgerslop writer but I think aaron sorkin deserves the crown
>>2679956how did you sit through the west wing. that sounds like torture
>>2679957>>2679952>I fucking hate aaron sorkin so much manSamesies. That movie The Social Network was so bad it started making me feel bad for Zuck. Only Sorkinslop I ever watched. He's such a bad writer.
>>2679952i saw clips of the west wing israel palestine episode. it was as bad as you can imagine.
>>2679965They made an episode?
>>2679962I like David Fincher so I was considering giving that a watch, but being reminded that it's Sorkinslop gets a hard pass from me
>>2679965"west wing israel palestine episode" feels like a cursed demon summoning spell that costs a pound of flesh
>>2679908he's kind of right about free trade on stopping wars. historically, hot wars always started after trade wars.
Amerikkkans,
Want to prove you don't support US imperialism? You don't even have to risk your life killing cops or troops. Simply go outside and bust open a fire hydrant. burn down a wooden pole carrying power lines. Sabotage a substation. Go into a fast food joint and throw a 20 lb bag of ice into the deep fryer and leave. break every glass bottle of olive oil in the grocery store and drop a match. it's that simple. you won't die. you might go to jail. you won't get the death sentence. every single act of sabotage which lowers the standard of living of the average american around you makes their eventual proletarianization and radicalization more likely. destroy AC units in suburbs just before summer. put sugar in gas tanks. drop hollow spike caltrops on freeways. make potholes. steal copper wire from houses. burn down homes. it's simple. prove you're against imperialism. you don't even have to kill anyone.
>>2679972then long live the butcher trump
>>2679975Do it yourself, burger
>amerikkkans get dunked on for being willfull, aware, active, gleeful collaborators
>immediately start discussing their wretched slop shows
>>2679961I saw a few episodes for civics education in highschool and I was still riding the high of Obama winning I believe.
Oh, also in the show the Republican nominee for President was an openly pro-choice atheist iirc. And Sorkin said that Romney should be the Democrats’ 2024 nominee… and if he were writing the 2020 election he would’ve had Biden say it’s unfair to win just because of COVID, refuse to take office, challenge Trump to another “fair” election, lose, but Trump would get some Saul on the road to Damascus moment and come to appreciate American democracy in a new light.
>>2679976I know who you are, because this is not the first time you have given that same answer to the same point on historical events on the topic of trade wars. you are a bot, a scripted moron.
kys /pol/, you are not subtle, and you are not outsmarting anyone.
https://pastebin.com/CdCVpKtclink to a pastebin of links to videos on the DOJ website
>>2679962>so bad it started making me feel bad for ZuckDid we watch the same movie? It painted zuck as an annoying dweeb that "stole" the idea to make Facebook. In fact, everyone in that movie was portrayed as some flavor of douchebag. Zuck, the voss twins, Larry summers when he was president of Harvard, the Napster guy, even zuck's "friend" that zuck pushed out was also an annoying dork in the movie.
I've noticed that when epstein died, 4chan's meme game slowly eroded because for all of epstein's faults he was still a pretty charismatic guy who was a fixer to a bunch of nebbish and out of touch dorks. Have you noticed that right-wing memes became incredibly long-winded after his passing?
>>2679586
Obvious fedposting is obvious
>>2679990yw
>>2679985going through them it looks like it's prison sec cam footage of Epstein
>>2679988no but i have noticed that you are a jewish nigger, a willing and gleeful collaborator, and you will never fight american imperialism, amerimutt
>>2679979>I was still riding the high of Obama winningwow lol, you are an admitted jewish nigger democrat, amerimutt. you clap your bloodstained greasy paws when the guy bombing me is black
>>2679988>Have you noticed that right-wing memes became incredibly long-winded after his passingI have. And they’re definitely more sloppy as as well.
>>2679996day 7 of /pol raid
>>2679968The writing is just bad. I hate his dialogue style and that every single character is just Aaaron Sorkin. Also the entire narrative is just absolute bullshit. I know that's not uncommon in Hollywood, they always just change all the facts to fit the typical contrived Hollywood plot in every biopic they do. Famously recently with Napoleon. Also I didn't like how the movie seemed to want to make me feel bad for the Winklevoss twins or whatever the Andrew Garfield character is named. I don't get the point of doing a biopic when you are just going to make up an entirely new story that doesn't line up with reality. Just make a purely fictional one.
>>2679986Yeah maybe you weren't supposed to feel bad for the Voss twins, but I'm not sure. I do think you were supposed to feel bad for Garfield. Which makes sense considering it's based off the real Garfield man's memoirs.
I'm saying the movie made me feel slightly bad for Zuck because it was such a fabricated hit piece just playing to stereotypes. I just saw some comments in a Sorkin thread saying they felt the film made Zuck seem "too cool and in control."
>>2679576I am seizing this memes of keketion.
then the us is:
a) a third world country
b) with a bunch of nukes
c) overpriced army
d) with a plutocracy.
>>2679863goddamn these uyghas are on some marquis de sade type shit fr
>>2679980I'm pretty sure this is some guy who did psycho shit on tiktok and went to jail for it
>>2680004kind of pathetic how fast its dissipated. i think like two days ago there were a bunch of new threads that were purely just to clog up the site, now its just 1 guy calling people the nword.
>>2679863This is why they made Dubai chocolate, so their scat parties don't show up first thing on the searches
>>2679897>They’ve never once risked their neck for you why should anyone risk their necks for democrat shills like yourself, chud?
>>2679985dataset 208 is prison security cam footage
Punish ice but vote for platner
>>2680018it's a shame because there are so many well written screenplays that just languish in obscurity forever but never get made for ideological reasons, or if they do get made, they just get "adapted" in a way that completely waters it down.
>>2680026whats the relevance?
>>2680012i thought it was impressive he's still going honestly
>>2680033>password was #1islandnah, bro is definitely trolling us from beyond the grave
if he is even dead…
>>2680030it's even better than that. you're free to make whatever art you want, it just won't get funding or advertising or views if it doesn't support the state's ideology. you are free to scream into the void because you will not be heard, but it will be noted that you are a subversive who might need to be disposed of or blackmailed later on.
>>2680033please tell me this based retard redditor was at least smart enough to download and leak all the emails before telling everyone what he did… right?
>>2680036That's what I meant, retard.
>>2680028He was able to acquire records from school boards and utilize public schools for abductions. I’m currently wondering about his exact relationship with these boards and how much deeper this is all going to go.
>>2680037I fucking hope so, I'm gonna be so pissed
>>2680033roblox????
this guy really was paying people to operate internet farms
>>2680033Lol Roblox support
>>2680033oh I think this is fake unless Epstein set up alerts for his name or something
>>2680046Those are all new emails dumb dumbs
>>2680042>>2680037They found one email sent to it apparently, on Thu 6/20/2019, 10:56 AM. Subject line on said "Test", with the body being blank. It was from Jermaine Ruan, whose linkedin says that he works for "The Government of the
USVI Bureau of Corrections" in "The US Virgin Islands".
https://vi.linkedin.com/in/jermaine-ruan-a513a078 >>2680047those are morons clogging the email after it was discovered. it's unreadable now. it had little content, though, so no big loss.
like, look the folder 'kill all higgers' or 'VEM MAMANO' (Portuguese).
internet is full of useless, depraved, attention seeking whores.
>>2680058>internet is full of useless, depraved, attention seeking whores.most of them aren't even real. the bourgeoisie realized (and admitted) a long time ago that they can't delete all the sentiment against them so they would rather just introduce a lot of noise to drown it out.
You disgusting faggots have done nothing to free maduro
It's all theatre for you
Your lumpen hooligans have kidnapped a leader and you did nothing
You're all wanking on the epstein files, you forgot about Mr Maduro
Fuck you
>>2679985I think they've been pulled
You deserve to get shot by ICE, they’re giving you a small taste of what people outside the US have had to endure for 250 years
>>2680018What got me is they portrayed Napoleon as basically autistic when IIRC he was pretty charismatic. Like he cheated on Josephine as much as she did him and I believe he was known for being able to hold a decent conversation on a ton of subjects.
Like the dude as far as I understand wasn’t the weird incel you see in the film.
>>2680084you can't know that
>>2680085charismatic strongmen can be generally assumed to be charismatic
>>2680085There are contemporary accounts of meeting Napoleon and he was a pretty significant figure in European politics.
why has the grayzone not yet commented on the epstein files?
>>2680089Ahh okay you’re the guy baiting, gotcha.
>>2680090It implicated Noam Chomsky and they’re also MIT cucks
>>2680090>>2680094Much like a lot of talking heads I really don't know why I should give a shit about what these people have to say. Just seems like another wolf in sheep's clothing jerk-off-republicans-but-leftishly bit.
>>2680033>4chan speekDid epstein cause the brainrot of 4chan
or
Did 4chan cause the brainrot of epstein
>HIGGERS >>2680084you are assuming autistic people cant be charismatic. But yeah I agree napoleon wasnt autistic
>>2680110
>milo
stop posting this absolute brainrot
>>2680110
nobody gives a shit
>>2679775idk about american cat ladies but most cat ladies here are mostly functional, their house just smells like cat piss and it's kinda messy.
>>2680099eh, this is a litmus test, for left-wing discourse. many 'prominent progressive academics', and progressive politicians have had respect for chomsky and vice-versa, but chomsky was always sectarian, criticized the soviet union, never embraced communism (anarcho-whateverism), gatekeeping, de-radicalizer, and sheepherding the public, similar to bernie sanders and aoc; while severing whatever international class solidarity between the US people and other governments could exist, such as Iran, Russia, Venezuela, Cuba, through his incessant and lack-of-imperialist context analysis For instance, X country is "authoritarian"? muh country bad, but
what's authoritarianism in the context of fighting against US imperialism? If China makes a which hunt of CIA spies, and shot people on the head in front of their colleegues as the NYT once painted, I don't care about that authoritarianism. with the end of chomsky career, maybe more voices that don't give a damn rat-ass about 'muh "critical"-support' may rise in the left discourse in the US.
>>2680117ISG shit but reminds me of Catboy Nick complaining about being called a short gay Mexican by hasan. The right wing did everything they could to destroy a politeness or civility and now are running crying about being triggered.
>>2680071We have to vote for platner to free maduro. Its our best shot of defeating maga fascism
>>2680125Yknow it’s been years but I think the treatment Bush got had more bite than how mainline libs treat Trump. Like I remember lots of young people my age saying Bush was a retard but now it’s like “erm ACKTUALLY Donny is a heccin CHEATO.” Just sounds infantile.
Personally I look forward to it being increasingly acceptable to call Trump a fat retard without hearing “Um that’s offensive to fat people and disabled people!”
>>2679985what annoying nuisance. I can't batch download them.
>>2680117I mean, he's right. It is something I've noticed and never liked. Obviously both sides are pretty much the same in that regard, but it the hypocrisy is more noticeable with libs. American sensibilities are very racist, misogynist, homophobic, liberals just repress it more in polite situations, but they love when they get an approved target to let their natural inclinations out on. I think that brand of lib humor has become less popular but look at South Park, Family Guy, etc. all those shows from the Gen-Xers from the 00s. Too many examples to list but look at how the libs always LOVE to go over the top with the homophobic humor anytime they perceive some guy as being a closeted homosexual. Also in the same way with women.
For example it's just natural for Americans to think it's great humor to point out that a woman or gay man has probably had a penis in her mouth before. To point out something like that is the most debasing thing you can say about someone in American culture.
>>2680117hold on, but I was told that the libs where chanting these:
>>2679273which is one is right?
or was the 'house uyghro' protester from lpol? that'd be fun LAWL
>>2680117link to the vid?
lol the polish government is giving official backing to the shameless MSM narrative which is trying to pin Epstein on Russia
butthurt belters never disappoint
>>2680143I mean the way I see it the libs have tried for years now to make “non-offensive insults” and everyone across the board finds it dumb. “Drumpf” “Cheeto”, the point of insults are to offend people. If a guy calls you a faggot and you call him a “doo-doo head” you just look pathetic by comparison; like saying “I’m rubber you’re glue” in your thirties.
The fucking Dems thought calling MAGA “weird” was too “divisive” for fuck’s sake. Meanwhile Trump was working “Retard Joe” as a nickname for Biden. You’ve got to recognize these right wingers are fucking animals, they’re monkeys, they howl and they throw shit. You either have to go all in and fight in the shit pit or you’ve got to ignore them, but doing half-measures won’t work.
>>2680132Libs are a spent fucking force in America, man. The empire is collapsing, the dumbest fascists on earth have the nuclear football and all they can do is bitch about how dark-toned genre fiction is responsible for the world’s ills
>>2680151there is no vid, the guy just made shit up and posted a "reaction" using jack nicholson from the shining
>>2680144
Never trust a woman with blond hair
>>2680143>guy makes up an anecdote>doesn't post evidence<i mean he's right [pseud ramblings]ugh….
>>2680144
>third pic
HAH! ghislaine had the philosophy with epstein of looking more young little girls for his man, that way she wouldn't be forced/requestd/asked to give blowjobs.
>>2680143>it's just natural for Americans to think it's great humor to point out that a woman or gay man has probably had a penis in her mouth beforethat's basically the whole world. lol.
what's different in America, is men showing their asses as an insult to other people. you do that in Latin-America and you are tagged as a homo.
>>2680156Yeah but we know about him. There could be more people who did this Epstein stuff on just as large of an international scale as Epstein
>>2680173
>Epstein was Qatar
Lmao
>>2680163Have you ever talked to an anarchist for any length of time? Because they have no problems spewing Nazi levels of racism the moment one of their precious minorities doesn’t do what they want them to do, especially when you bring up that the imperial periphery overwhelmingly favors Marxism Leninism over their bourgeois leftist nonsense. It’s absolutely believable that a mob of them would start shouting racial slurs at a black LEO
>>2680154Actually, if you look at it, a lot of the lib inclinations of the 00s and 10s is what led to this MAGA mess in the first place. The hicks are a very sensitive people. Remember how big a controversy the "cling to their guns and bible" quote made?
https://archive.nytimes.com/mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/17/my-rifle-my-bible-and-me/All that flyover state business and all that. TBH I don't like fucking coastal libs. I was raised up around them at certain points. There was this great blog from the 00s that really dunked on them. Called Stuff White People Like, going on about their elitism, their barely disguised racism, and then also their hatred of "the wrong kind of White people" as they dubbed it.
>>2680163I just meant the general point he was making. I've seen it many times. I've experienced it in person. They're racist as fuck.
The land here is cursed, nothing good can come of this place, pack your things and leave, sell what you can’t. Stop paying taxes and contributing to this economy.
In spite of everything zoomer men still seem to be chudmaxxing
>>2680182Like I said earlier in the thread, the “woke” (I hate that term) generation of libs have been reduced to fucking impotent virtue signaling and art-policing. Thats the ultimate political legacy of the 2010s radlib “left”: a fucking cargo cult of consumer vibes lecturing everybody about how we’ll beat fascists by consuming cozy shows and fanfics
I get really mad at my generation for screwing the pooch so hard, sometimes.
>>2680196Yeah unfortunately we have to work with that. People are gonna have to work with social conservatives to liberate the people here. There's no way around it.
>>2680187Lead by example.
>>2680196>IdpolKys retard
after all the recent Epstein stuff came out ive seen more people become actual nazi rightards rather than moving towards the left.
why are people so retarded
>>2680180Anarchists also might claim to be anti imperialist but they hate every state that actually defeated imperialism. The only reason why they claim to support groups like Native Americans is because they’re convenient props for them, if any tribe had been able to avoid being conquered by America it could have only been by doing things anarchists would have hated like building up a military industry. I’ve seen anarchists get mad at actual native Americans irl for not being “traditionalist” enough (aka being actual people instead of fairlytale woodland creatures).
>>2680211it's even got some "leftist" people spouting nazi shit. it's really scrambled everyone's brains. it think it's because reading ability is at an all time low.
>>2680211Your social media feed isn't reality, dummy.
>>2680180>yeah the guy made up some shit on twitter about leftists and didn't provide proof but umm it doesn't matter because umm it's spiritually true based on my negative experiences with anarchistsok? who cares
>>2680211What does the Left even offer them?
>>2680215What the fuck did they actually accomplish that was durable?
Apart from obvious scumbags like Weinstein or Neil Gaiman, getting “cancelled” just wound up being free PR for fading entertainers who needed an edgy rebrand for their careers. None of it led to durable positive be change. Cancelling didn’t save abortion rights, weaken the grip of capital over our lives, make meaningful inroads against imperialist foreign policy, or stop cops from executing black people for blinking funny.
It was all just hollow vibes-driven spectacle. It meant nothing. It was just a free show for terminally-online consumers of fandomized politics to gawk at.
>>2680215>>2680222what is "woke" it's just a lazy term thrown around. wtf are you retards talking about
>>2680211We hold witness to but material law of degeneration of the settler imperialist formation. The genocidal, bourgeois, settler labor aristocrat—no matter how vascillating—always err to side of fascism.
>>2680228 (me)
> be changeFucking enshittified autocorrect i swear to fuck
>>2680225Obviously you do. I was the guy who agreed with ot and I wouldn't respond if not for all the responses going:
>ackshually we need to say jewish nigger faggot cum dumpster more! >>2680226Redemption and salvation. Things beyond the treats which you only understand
>>2680233>more greentext nobody ITT saidtiresome
>>2680229I prefer "annoying liberal cracker" instead of woke but it's faster to just say woke.
>>2680237Read the thread. It is tireso.e talking with "mih team" guys like you abd your team is the libs anyways.
>>2680241>your team is the libs you sure about that lib?
>>2680244Yes I am because you have been taking my comments about libs personally and seething for dozens of replies.
>>2680240pretty sure woke started out as a self-applied term used by black americans recognizing Amerikkka as a racist country lol
>>2680245>dozens of repliesi replied to you twice
>>2680245> you have been taking my comments about libs personally you sure about that, lib?
>>2680250you replied to me again, lib, this proves you are a lib, lib. why are you taking my comments about libs (you) so personal?
Ladies, ladies, you’re both libs!
>>2680215there's still discourse about door dash and fanfictions. you can try to wake these dumb nerds up, but it sometimes feels as though they've been consumed by a fandom culture war. anything useful and productive happened 10 years ago.
>>2680256It’s the dumbest shit online, and honestly it’s kind of made me check out of my hobbies a little.
>>2680246Faggot started out as a bundle of sticks.
>>2680259>woke maga retard is right because libs are chudding outthey're both wrong stupid
>>2680263I apologize for my careless phrasing, sheesh. Stop being so sensitive. I said more words than that.
>>2680204I mean you do remember the "Your body our choice" stuff 50% of zoomer men were chanting when trump was elected right?
>>2680211It’s the feeds anon.
>>2680154>I mean the way I see it the libs have tried for years now to make “non-offensive insults” and everyone across the board finds it dumb. “Drumpf” “Cheeto”, the point of insults are to offend people. If a guy calls you a faggot and you call him a “doo-doo head” you just look pathetic by comparison>>2680182>Actually, if you look at it, a lot of the lib inclinations of the 00s and 10s is what led to this MAGA mess in the first place. The hicks are a very sensitive people … TBH I don't like fucking coastal libs. I was raised up around them at certain points.I'd say it's "honor culture" more than anything to contrast with coastal liberalism. Not that these people are especially honorable, but you don't let people just disrespect you. Looks weak. Looks primitive too but Trump has really tapped into that. I think this is very strong and I even feel this too. If you made me listen to Jennifer Welch (from Oklahoma) and Ezra Klein in a lib out then I will respond much better to Welch.
One way this ties into manipulation by reactionary political actors it's often framed around "humiliation." I was watching Steve Bannon's War Room the other day and he had on these people and they were talking about crazy shit, like Zohran Mamdani wasn't clearing the snow in New York (this was a lie) because he is deliberately trying to "humiliate" them. (Also oddly, the DSA figured very highly in their propaganda, it was like DSA this, DSA that, DSA is coming to Texas…) Also it was fascinating how much finance figured into Bannon's rhetoric. Like "London is falling" which is bad because it's a big
financial center, Mamdani in NYC is terrible because it's so important to
finance. He was a Goldman Sachs guy who collabed with Epstein so there you go.
Anyways, Harvard was founding by Puritans who had a totally different mentality, and coastal liberalism has inherited it even though it has been totally secularized for a long time. The Puritans believed that only good people should be allowed to vote (you had to be a church member in their colony to vote) and it was the job of the state to enforce morality on everybody, and they knew what that was. Not that this mindset is all that bad but it can get itself into trouble and sometimes does.
>>2680283holy shit. you are proving my point. moron.
>>2680196Because they are retarded. Right-wing nazi retard podcasters and influencers disguised as centrists have convinced them that stomping your boot on everyone's face is the goal of life.
>>2680288>>2680196>>2680196> zoomer men still seem to be chudmaxxingsoyllenial here. tired of vibes based genpol analysis. it's literal marketing slop made in a lab to make you not think about class
>>2680288I think that Zoomer men are much more image focused than that, it's about not looking cringe and being expelled from the discord group chat.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XpZKksVSRRwThis is what zoomers fear most, which is being Pim in this situation. Even when zoomer men bag a baddy (As they call it) they dont' really fuck them
>>2680286>you're suppose to respond by killing them you stupid liberal.Dude, I just read Gay Nazi's response to me and I was about to say something similar lol.
>>2680284>I'd say it's "honor culture" more than anything to contrast with coastal liberalism. Not that these people are especially honorable, but you don't let people just disrespect you. Looks weak. Looks primitive too but Trump has really tapped into that. I think this is very strong and I even feel this too. If you made me listen to Jennifer Welch (from Oklahoma) and Ezra Klein in a lib out then I will respond much better to Welch.Look, I'll preface this by saying I'm trying to get over these tendencies, because it's illogical, all that turn the other cheek wisdom is correct, BUT. Like I have kind of been obsessed about being disrespected and all that. But like, I kinda learned the secret, and almost never been disrespected in my life since then. Even my bosses who verbally abuse their employees regularly, the other employees asked me "why is he so nice to you?" The secret is, like I'm seriously going to kill you. I mean maybe not, but people can like psychologically gage the degree with which you are serious about that idea. Not like I'm going to get into a slap fight here in front of witnesses. More like I am going to find where you live and end you kind of thing. People don't have as much to say when you let them know "what time it is" as they say.
Anyways, it's much more honorific to be dignified. To act with composure. Yelling silly slurs and insults is dishonoring yourself. You know a lot of guys identified with Tony Montana, I always like Michael Corleone.
>>2680294>I think that Zoomer men are much more image focused than that, it's about not looking cringe and being expelled from the discord group chat.So basically they are retarded.
Any time I get called a faggot or a cuck I just go “yes, and?” or “so?” and usually there’s nothing afterwards
>>2680295you're not scarface, and you won't do shit
>>2680316>begging the bourgeoisie to arrest themselvesliberalism. go back to reddit faggot
>>2680295>Even my bosses who verbally abuse their employees regularly, the other employees asked me "why is he so nice to you?" The secret is, like I'm seriously going to kill you. I mean maybe not, but people can like psychologically gage the degree with which you are serious about that idea. I mean, it's not at all the case that I believe the spirit of Marxism is that the working class gets back at the bosses because of immersation or because they're not paid enough. Capitalism might really lead the workers to get paid better than they used to. It's really about domination and having to kiss some guy's ass that is the root of the problem.
Nick Fuentes is obviously a Bannon project and not a Thiel one. Bannon has more of an edgier foot-print and one that seeks to appeal to the gruggier side of the chudsphere while Thiel is all about tyring to hollow out liberal institutions and making chuddery elite and aesthetically pleasing (Look at how much influence the redscarepod and it's subreddit has on alt-hipstery pop music)
>>2680321Arresting them all would be arresting the majority of the haunted bourgeoisie. This meme is certified Marxist. Please log off for the night agent, you’re going to get overtime and the agency can’t afford that in these trying times.
>>2680324>Please log off for the night agent, you’re going to get overtime and the agency can’t afford that in these trying times.wouldn't that be a good thing if they ran out of money? more liberalism from you.
>Arresting them all would be arresting the majority of the haunted bourgeoisie. This meme is certified Marxist. begging them to arrest themselves is liberal you jewish nigger, do it yourself
>>2680325>>2680327>lmfao they censored her name in the "from" and then she signed the email with her own namety disgruntled keyboard jockeys at the justice dept, i guess
>>2680325>3rd onejesus fucking christ
>>2680324you are replying to a /pol/ b8er.
>>2680182the real problem is they clung to their bible and never picked up their guns. if they actually picked up their guns, the coastal libs would have never talked shit again LOL
the coastal libs still talk shit about the flyover state crackers to this very day.
>>2680344How would flyovers even get to the coastal liberals anyways? I've watched 600 pound life, the fatasses always bitched about having to drive for more than 3 hours at most.
>>2680347who do you think trucks all the goods from the coast to the midwest?
>>2680325Lynn/Arianne Rothschilds, Les Wexner and Eileen Guggenheim absolutely should be sitting in cells alongside Maxwell. Surprised the Royal Estate isn't going after Lynn to put a head on her spike since it was her that introduced Andrew and Fergie to Maxwell and Epstein.
>>2680349That is an elite cadre of flyovers your average landlocked chud isn't doing shit
>>2680350>Lynn/Arianne Rothschilds, Les Wexner and Eileen Guggenheim absolutely should be sitting in cells alongside Maxwell. >Surprised the Royal Estate isn't going after Lynn>bourgeoisie arresting the rothschildsyeah. no.
>>2680322True facts my gay nazi. Like my "friends" in a certain point in time said "people don't usually show me where they sleep at" and many of my compatriots always make me drop them off around the block. Yeah stop fucking around. Fuentes has survived multiple situations at his residence yet he remains. Would be easy to kill him I'm sure.
You don't just knock on their door and ask them to come out so you can shoot them. You find out what is there local trash day and then you stake them out and fire a bullet through their skull then you book it a couple miles through non photographed places back to your transportation.
>>2680376> You find out what is there local trash day and then you stake them out and fire a bullet through their skull then you book it a couple miles through non photographed places back to your transportation.Like do I have to spell it out? The key is interrupting their photographs of you between the deed and your transportation fleeing. It's very shrimple.
>>2680236Highlighting the bait mostly to point out that this is pretty much the issue: the Left is pitching some vague ideas of "redemption" to people who don't need or want it while the Right is pitching a change in material circumstances.
>Actually, if you look at it, a lot of the lib inclinations of the 00s and 10s is what led to this MAGA mess in the first place. The hicks are a very sensitive people. Remember how big a controversy the "cling to their guns and bible" quote made?I mean the issue with libs in my opinion is that they think apologizing does anything other than galvanize people into believing they're right. It's this underlying spirit of modern conservatism:
>"Anything I say/believe, no matter how abso-fucking-lutely stupid, must be weighted with consideration by virtue of me believing it."Flat earthers, raw milk drinkers, anti-vaxxers, no fappers. On and on and on again they push the most retarded of ideas and they're met with feigned sympathy or credence. I think in the U.K. some town council was swarmed with a bunch of psychotic right wingers who started screaming at the local council that 15 minute cities were a globalist plot to enslave people. What did the council do? Try to address these concerns "seriously" and explain that they aren't trying to create some Stalinist dictatorship.
Here's an alternative: just call it fucking stupid. A guy who thinks having walkable cities is a globalist plot should only be addressed by the people he's accusing of being globalists as a village idiot. His ideas should be dismissed. The woman claiming a covid vaccine is making her magnetic should be laughed at. Don't meekly say "I'm sorry for offending you" because you're just telling people you did something wrong and they did something right.
I dunno, I think Zizek has talked about a "left wing Trump" before and I think there's some truth to that. Just getting a guy out there who'll bluntly say the next time some Seven Mountain Psycho like Mike Johnson is talking about the Bible that he's just talking to his own ego and claiming God told him it.
The lengths that zoomer men to avoid being seen as cringe is baffling to me. Like, I see someone looking at me nastily and the thing that I think is "So fucking what is their problem?" Zoomer men however think that is a threat to their life and will try to avoid any situation where they look displeasing at all and yet people still fucking hate them even more than they hate blatantly cringe people anyways.
>>2680381>Highlighting the bait mostly to point out that this is pretty much the issue: the Left is pitching some vague ideas of "redemption" to people who don't need or want it while the Right is pitching a change in material circumstances.I don't think this is the case at all anymore but other wise your later paragraphs is good and I Have no complaints.
>>2680211historically sometimes the revolution of the right comes before the revolution of the left. Prepare for some years of failed right wing revolutionary nationalism
>>2680387>The lengths that zoomer men to avoid being seen as cringe is baffling to me. We didn't grow up in the same world at all. We now live in a world where you may always be secretly recorded and shamed in front of millions.
>>2680381There is no bait. Of all people on this earth, it is amerikans who must earn redemption. amerikans can have the same redemption and salvation that the bourgeoisie recieved in China. It is highly suspect that you propose that the amerikan right proposes material change. Redemption and salvation are the greatest material changes that amerikans can have.
>>2680395There's no need for "redemption" there is no "sin", no one actually desires your schizo morality play or owes you anything.
>>2680401You say the imperialists do nothing wrong and that they do not need to earn redemption. This is highly suspect. You defy history for all revolution bring redemption to the exploiters and oppressors.
new thread, chuderinos, y liberistas
>>2680360new thread, chuderinos, y liberistas
>>2680360new thread, chuderinos, y liberistas
>>2680360new thread, chuderinos, y liberistas
>>2680360new thread, chuderinos, y liberistas
>>2680360new thread, chuderinos, y liberistas
>>2680360new thread, chuderinos, y liberistas
>>2680360new thread, chuderinos, y liberistas
>>2680360>>2680401Wrong. amerikans owe me everything they have because they enslaved by family
>>2680342I know, the point of leftypol is to demoralize feds and reactionaries.
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