>>2680034>posting 3 non anarchists 1. Bookchin made the break from anarchism around the late 80’s/90’s due to Anarchism focusing more on individualism as opposed to organisational structures
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/janet-biehl-bookchin-breaks-with-anarchismAbdullah Ocalan was never an anarchist. If anti state organisation was exclusive to anarchism, we may as well call CLR James, a Marxist, an anarchist because he viewed the state as an obstacle to revolution
Here are Ocalans takes on anarchism
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/abdullah-ocalan-re-evaluating-anarchismAs Ocalan writes
“They know well what capitalism does, but they do not know well what they should do. If we summarize shortly their view;
They criticize the capitalist system from the most left position. They comprehend better that this system destroys the moral and political society. They do not attribute progressive role to capitalism, as Marxists do. Their approach to the societies destroyed by capitalism is more positive. They do not see those societies as backwards and obliged to decline, but find the survival of those more moral and political.
They have a more comprehensive and realistic approach towards the power and the state compared to Marxists. Bakunin is the one who said power is the absolute evil. However, demanding removal of power and state immediately at any rate is utopian and an approach which does not have so much chance to be realized in practice. They were able to foresee that socialism cannot be built based on the state and power, and that might end up in more dangerous and bureaucratic capitalism.
Their foresight, that centralist nation-state would be a disaster for all working class and popular movements and would crush their hopes, is realistic. They also turned out to be right in their critiques towards Marxists regarding the unification of Germany and Italy. Their statement about history developing in favor of nation-states would mean big loss for the utopia of freedom and equality, their criticizing Marxists for taking position at the side of the nation-state and blaming them with betrayal are important aspects to emphasize. They defended confederalism.
Their ideas and criticisms on bureaucratism, industrialism and urbanization are verified up to a certain level. In their developing anti-fascist and ecologist stance at an early stage, those ideas and critiques played an important role.
Their criticisms towards the real socialism is also verified by the dissolution of the system. They are the fraction who diagnosed best that what was built was not socialism but state capitalism.”
To say Ocalan is anarchist and traded it for anarchism speaks either of OPs ignorance or opportunism.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/david-graeber-ocalan-as-thinkerAs for Chomsky, most anarchists don’t fuck with him- Chomsky himself has never truly identified as one, and is considered more of a “fellow traveler”
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/bob-black-chomsky-nod#toc8