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With
>pros
and
<cons
in order of deadness. Feel free to add to the list.

David Graeber, USA (status: very dead)
>Caused a ruckus in the field of anthropology: "wtf, this class shit ain't normal?"
>Was right proving wrong Marx and Engels on the origin of money (although they were relying on contemporary anthropologists)
>Turned some right libertarians into """left""" lib- I mean anarchists
<Teeth status
<His most popular book, Bullshit Jobs, is proven idiotic by the first 10 pages of Theories of Surplus value by Marx

Mark Fisher, UK (status: very dead – suicide'd)
>Popularized anti-idpol
>Rather accurately detected current capitalist cultural rot & how it effects the youth
<Offered no alternatives, no vision for the future
<Le K-Punk counter-le-culture (4chan/Houdini-tier)

Noam Chomsky, USA (status: senile, very soon to die, 97yrs old)
>Consistently documented US imperialist crimes
>Consistent "voice of reason" in the country of un-reason; avenue for thousands for moving "left"
<Is in the Epstein files ("I;m thinking about thos Beans Islands!")
<Deradicalized Norman Finkelstein
<Tarnished the USSR, cheered its fall
<Very possible CIA connection
<His whole language model got proven wrong
<Voote bloo, no matter hoo (I'm a spiritual anarchist, you see!)
<Hilariously got got by Foucault, Lacan (americans will deny this)

Frederic Jameson, USA (status: 90 yrs old)
>A fellow traveler of po-mo "leftism" who consistently critiques po-mo and points to Marxism as an alternative
>A burger who actually read and understood continental philosophy
<Noted elitist ("Dat waiter offered me the wrong wine to go with my fish dish!")
<Does nothing but boring movie crit

Alain Badiou, FRE (status: 89 yrs old)
>The ONLY living philosopher proper (=developed a consistent system of ontology, epistemology, ethics, philosophy of science and mathematics, aesthetics, without devolving into a "cultural critic" status)
>Has nice things to say about Lenin and Mao while
<Devolving into anti-USSR/party/state idiocy
<80% of English native speakers can't comprehend his English
<Wants to kill Zizek, even though he admires him

Richard D. Wolff, USA (status: senile, 83 years old)
>Very accessible, consistent voice for burgers to move them left on economic issues
>An economist anti-economist, making it clear to proles that the Priestly Class of academic "economists" are charlatan cultists, sniffing their own farts
>Pro-CHYNAH
<Utopian, coop-fetishist, proven wrong by the first 10 pages of The Poverty of Philosophy and Socialism: Utopian and Scientific

Slavoj Zizek, SLO (status: 76 yrs young)
>As an orthodox Lacanian and Althusserian but heterodox Marxist developed a consistent system for understanding and critiquing ideology, pushing many to the left through cultural examples
>Has nice things to say about Lenin
>Endless source of memes, *sniff*
>BTFO'd Jordan Peterson
>Popularized anti-idpol
>Actually funny
>Doesn't buy the "USSR wasn't REAL socialism" meme
<Blatant and admitted self-plagiarist
<Consistently wrong on geopolitics since… the 1990s
<May sooner die than the others due to his unhealthy hot-dog consumption
<99% of English speakers have a hard time understanding him, only cultish followers undershtand every word he says
<Wants to kill Badiou, even though he admires him

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

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Them teeths are for future anthropologists and archeologists to analyze.

>>2683266
Slavoj Zizek isn't a leftist at all. He's a fiercely anti-communist and anti-soviet slovenian nationalist. In terms of actual philosophy there's also literally nothing there as all he ever does is spew meaningless word salads that bamboozle mid-wits into thinking he's smart (literally the same thing his idols, Hegel and Deleuze and Guattari, did historically). Pretty much all he does is capture the attention of alienated young people and diverts their political and intellectual curiosity into harmless and counter-revolutionary pathways. I'm like 99.99% sure he's a plant who only got famous because he's a glowie and was artificially pushed into fame as part of a psyop.

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>>2683266
>>2683274
Am I the only one who thinks this dude got assassinated (targeted with some cancer-causing technology) because of how badly he humiliated Thiel in this debate? I mean, Thiel is a Epstein-tier giga glowie who has every kind of connection to the deep state you could imagine and he has had people assassinated before (his ex-boyfriend). Surely he could have made a couple of calls and got it done out of spite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF0cz9OmCGw

most of those "cons" are actually pros, and vice versa

>>2683285
good job figuring it out

>>2683280
Imagine getting filtered by fucking Zizek, fucking lol.

>>2683266
>Wants to kill Zizek
This part is good though

>Slavoj Zizek isn't a leftist at all.
The very left-right dichotomy is bullshit. This is an established observation. You could see the OP list as ppl moving ppl towards communizm or away from.

>He's a fiercely anti-communist and anti-soviet slovenian nationalist.

You can call him anything but a "nationalist," lmao.

<In terms of actual philosophy there's also literally nothing there as all he ever does is spew meaningless word salads that bamboozle mid-wits into thinking he's smart

I'm OP and I've read some to most of the significant works from them and this couldn't be further removed from the truth. Just because said academics are wrong all the time on one issue, it doesn't automatically follow that they are complete hacks. For example, Chomsky's language model, which turned out to be shit eventually, was very productive in the sense of pushing further the discipline of linguistics. I honestly think that you have a bad grasp of… well… the development of human thought, sciences.

>idols, Hegel and Deleuze and Guattari

Innfluences arennot idols. Would you dare call Hegel Marx's idol?

>Pretty much all he does is capture the attention of alienated young people

Everybody is alienated, you fuck. Turning the attention of alienated individuals towards class terror is great.

>I'm like 99.99% sure he's a plant who only got famous because he's a glowie and was artificially pushed into fame as part of a psyop.

Occam's razor, you filthy schizo. He published a very successful book that made him famous and kept maintaining that status.

You've only confirmed ITT that you have no idea what you are talking about (=haven't read shit), but you are VERY oppinionated on the things you haven't read or understood.

wasn't badiou a maoist in his youth?

>>2683285
He wasn't significant enough to get the Chavez treatment.

>>2683288
Giga-tard.

>>2683293
Yes. Badiou was a follower of his pro-USSR (Trot-neutral, pro-Mao, pro-Lenin) prof Althusser, then '68 happened and a lot of his students got retard-pilled. To this day Badiou describes the '68 (stool) movements as his revolutionary period, which is objectively fucking retarded.

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Very fun read, thanks OP. I am preparing to enter the world of academia myself and I’ve got my cyanide pills ready to go. Would be a shame if I never got to use them.

>>2683296
>Giga-tard.
USSR was still a capitalist failure, no two ways about it, the only successful ones just embraced it harder

>>2683298
Read Badiou, tbh. Even with his tard takes he's the most prominent of the bunch.

>>2683301
>USSR was capitalist
And your favorite hero being criticized in OP was?

Your nationality? (Presumed 5 Eyes)

>>2683301
Boomer-pilled, McCarthy-pilled.

Laugh at this idiot.

>>2683285
Honestly, irradiating his house or something wouldn't have been a big order for glowies.

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I'm thinken about thos USSRs, bros.

>>2683308
He was a literal nobody outside of academic circles and a very little radicalization potential, plus no actual political movement organized by him.

Graeber will have no statue in the Eternal Communist Cemetery, as opposed to… a lot of names.

>u said bad of Graeber, now I revolt
Children.

>>2683305
Thank you, I will keep your advice in mind.

>>2683274
Homie still got laid

>>2683292
>The very left-right dichotomy is bullshit.
1. Normie-tier take
2. You're the one who called him a leftist, you fucking retard. I'm pointing out why you're wrong. You're at post-modernist levels of "words have no meaning" here.
>You can call him anything but a "nationalist," lmao.
1. He said it himself that he enlisted into the slovenian military at some point
2. Spends like 80% of his time telling anedoctes about how living in the soviet union was le bad
3. Talks about every single anti-soviet color revolution in a positive light
4. Supported euromaidan and other sus CIA shit
5. Clearly gestures towards european anti-immigrant sentiments
>I'm OP and I've read some to most of the significant works from them and this couldn't be further removed from the truth. Just because said academics are wrong all the time on one issue, it doesn't automatically follow that they are complete hacks. For example, Chomsky's language model, which turned out to be shit eventually, was very productive in the sense of pushing further the discipline of linguistics. I honestly think that you have a bad grasp of… well… the development of human thought, sciences.
The point is that he literally talks and writes like Hegel and Deleuze and other such pseudo-intellectuals and posers. There's no substance to anything that's being said anywhere. It's just a form of sophistry to woo mid-wits such as yourself into thinking you engaging with something deep, as I have already stated. FFS I'm using the simplest and most straightforward language I possibly can, is this really that hard to understand?
>Innfluences arennot idols. Would you dare call Hegel Marx's idol?
If Marx's entire point wasn't to showcase how Hegel was a retard who got everything exactly backwards, then yes absolutely. And if Marx wrote like a sophist who has nothing of value to say, instead of clear prose, then yes also absolutely. You can very reliably tell if a philosopher isn't totally worthless based on their stance on Hegel. If they call Hegel out on the fact he's an idiot then they're worth reading (Marx, Schoppenhauer, Nietzsche, etc…).
>Turning the attention of alienated individuals towards class terror is great.
Yeah it'd be great if Zizek ever did that. Shame he never does though.
>Occam's razor, you filthy schizo. He published a very successful book that made him famous and kept maintaining that status.
Congress for Cultural Freedom, fucking retard. The CIA has been promoting lefty anti-communist pseudo-intellectuals ever since the 50s. Zizek has contributed to every usual suspect imaginable, such as USAID and Soros backed foundations. He's friends and has little debates with other propped pseudo-intellectuals like Yuval Noah Harari. He almost certainly has dark money behind him, he glows in the dark.
>You've only confirmed ITT that you have no idea what you are talking about (=haven't read shit), but you are VERY oppinionated on the things you haven't read or understood.
You have done nothing but use ad hominem attacks and insult me while I (originally) simply engaged with the flawed premised you put. You don't know anything about me and you don't know what I do or do not understand. You just looked at a simple paragraph with a pretty straightforward argument and immediately failed not only to understand it, but immediately construed an immense amount assumptions about someone who you fundamentally do not know. You're clearly a person who who's quick to lay judgement via superficial premises and assumptions; you live in the world of doxa. A prime target for a sophist like Zizek.

>>2683310
>>2683294
The point is that Thiel would have done it for personal offense and for his own ego, rather than structural/systemic motivations. He's pretty much the kind of petty psychopath that would do something like that, imo.

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Graeber was retarded, his theory on the origin of money is typical petty booj small holdinv hlorification


>>2683323
>1. He said it himself that he enlisted into the slovenian military at some point
Ackshually, he served in the Yugoslav People's Army in the early 1980s. At any rate, what Zizek will be remembered for is The Sublime Object of Ideology which is about how ideology works through fantasy and desire.

>>2683319
He will change your life. Start with The Concept of Model.

>>2683323
>Normie
Stopped reading there, idpol obsessed labor aristocrat "leftist"

>>2683326
5 Eyes it is.

I'm just going to leave this here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0217rVYLS4

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>>2683266
>His most popular book, Bullshit Jobs,
<not Debt: The First 5,000 Years
<not The Dawn of Everything
posting in psued thread.


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