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Take a look at this.
You're never going to get to read this because most of it isn't translated.
Most of you will never learn chinese.
If you were to try a critique Daoism, you'd have to spend a lifetime if not more.


>>2683344
>>2683346
don't care, burn it all kill footbinders.

>>2683344
I would like to learn Chinese one day, but holy shit the ideogramic writing and tonal stuff makes me want to learn just about anything else.

>>2683349
Reject reading, embrace retardation.
Except foot binding was caused by a buddhist legend of Padmavati, not Daoism.
Daoism is not a single school of thought.

>>2683344
Just use a translator LLM trained on the data to tutor yourself, but who would care to? This is an artifact from another place in another time written for other purposes than to be useful to me.

>>2683364
>This is an artifact from another place in another time written for other purposes than to be useful to me.
Personally I have found a lot of daoism to be timeless and cozy, even as a modern western.

>>2683344
The xuanxue canon (synthesis of daoism and Confucianism) list the taoteching, zhaungzi, I Ching and leizi as the canon which is much more manageable than the pure daoist canon

Daoism claims the universe is perfect.
It clearly isn't.
Daoism therefore, is immediately debunked.

I thought Daoists didn’t believe in writing, that they recorded things through series of rope knots because calligraphy is not “the way” or whatever


Also fuck China, it’s literally the exact same as every other asian tiger economy

>>2683694
That's an oversimplification, rather "perfect" in the sense of it being functional to exist as it is, not that the processes ongoing in it are desireable. "Perfect" in that it is stable to exist as it is and therefore is as perfect at what it is.

>>2683694
A common trope in eastern religions is that evil/suffering/imperfection, etc is due to illusion and only through enlightenment is the illusion dispelled.

>>2683344
>religion but oriental
Nah

>>2683887
It's a philosophy, not a religion. There's no hierarchy, no hyerophany, no dogma, and no sacerdotal class.

>>2683933
There is religious daoism but there is also philosophical daoism but is usually practiced within a Confucian ritual ambience. I don't think it was ever intended that people just read a bunch of texts outside the cultural milieu and then interpret it as they wish let alone in translation.

>>2683938
>Religion is when you do something collectively and there's formal rituals
Do you classify schooling as religion too? And what about book clubs? If a group of marxist-leninists get together to read theory is that a form of religion?


>>2683948
Kind of. Religion literally means to bind. So collectivism eliminates subjectivism to a certain extent, you could say collective discussion within a lineage or group is a form of dialectics

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I was very interested in the Daoist idea of wu wei, literally "no action" translated roughly as "effortless action", and is seen as one of the highest goals of Daoism. In science it's analogous to what's called "flow". There's some debate in the canon if I understand correctly about how best to achieve this state, whether in a return to nature, or by rigorous overtraining. My expereince has lead me to believe that typically a return to nature is not going to be as fruitful as training to the point of effortlessness, especially if one doesn't agree with prevailing norms or nature (but this is sort of part of the point, to question things which are against our "nature"). Wu wei is also mirrored in the Buddhist tradition with the wu xin literally "no mind".

>>2683983
I actually reject the idea of "returning to nature" more strongly than I've said here.

>>2683933
>It's a philosophy, not a religion.
Yeah yeah. Like platonism. Still dumb.

>>2683938
>I don't think it was ever intended that people just read a bunch of texts outside the cultural milieu and then interpret it as they wish
The first line of the Tao Te Ching is
>The Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao
which I think implies there should be an openness to interpretation rather than holding on to dogmas and rituals.

>>2683983
wtf daoism is based leftcom religion?

>>2688307
the point of that sentence is to mean that as soon as you try to define reality/nature etc,you end up with words that do not represent reality in its entirety,because language can only describe part of it


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>>2683933
>It's a philosophy, not a religion
lmfaoooooo you said the thing

< The proof that philosophy is nothing else but religion rendered into thought and expounded by thought, i.e., another form and manner of existence of the estrangement of the essence of man; hence equally to be condemned

>>2683344
Is Daoism necessary for socialism? Seems like the Chinese are on to something here

>>2683344
look at the length of the talmud
you don't have to know everything about something to critique it

I read pic rel.
I'm now a master of Daoism, ask me anything.

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>>2688399
Filthy goy like you aren't allowed to read the talhmud.

>>2688410
>1. Sanhedrin 59a Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal
but it doesn't actually say that though
how is it possible that a meme this large is already wrong on the first part?

>>2688410
<words, words, words
the right cant meme

>>2683983
>the trick was to surrender to the flow

Clearly the answer is consuming copious amounts of drugs at a Phish show


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