[ home / rules / faq / search ] [ overboard / sfw / alt ] [ leftypol / edu / labor / siberia / lgbt / latam / hobby / tech / games / anime / music / draw / AKM / ufo ] [ meta ] [ wiki / shop / tv / tiktok / twitter / patreon ] [ GET / ref / marx / booru ]

/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

"The anons of the past have only shitposted on the Internet about the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it."
Name
Options
Subject
Comment
Flag
File
Embed
Password(For file deletion.)

Check out our new store at shop.leftypol.org!


File: 1770747418969-0.png (29.12 KB, 234x280, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 1770747418969-1.png (223.02 KB, 753x1280, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 1770747418969-2.png (188.5 KB, 612x441, ClipboardImage.png)

 

Is revolution possible in the SECOND WORLD? Occupied by the first world in Europe and allied with the third world in central asia.
HMMMM???
Ever thought about that?

Possibly central Asia. BRI is building a lot of infrastructure there and they're seeing rapid development that might be held back by existing political forms.

I have not thought about that. I need more time to think.

>>2687690
They have the most soviet nostalgic populations there

Post-WP EE (without Belarus and Russia) is the most reactionary, most open, most brazen dictatorship of capital. Several states have functional apertheids (Slovenia, Latvia), several have been ruled for three decades by neoliberal parties (Montenegro, Croatia, Serbia), some are fascistic (Ukraine). Czechoslovakia is empty of life. Bosnia and Kosovo are American protectorates. Most of them have been depopulated due to migration towards Western Europe (Bulgaria or the Baltics). Out of all the places, Serbia is the only one there could be a socialist revolution. Elsewhere it's bleak.

>>2687693
All of this applies to Russia and Belarus.

>>2687697
If that were true the entire political caste in Russia would have been scraped off of the government and fed to a wood chipper for the "Unlimited Partnership"

File: 1770748014244-0.png (70.23 KB, 1000x743, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 1770748014244-1.png (136.95 KB, 2212x1777, ClipboardImage.png)

>>2687693
>Most of them have been depopulated due to migration towards Western Europe (Bulgaria or the Baltics)
TRUE
and they are only left with a majority elderly population of pensioners lmao

>>2687693
>>2687697
Baltics, Ukraine, Poland have and even Czechia is moving to ban the communist party.

>>2687701
Yeah eastern Europe at least will gleefully eat shit from the capitalist class for the next 5 generations because muh soviets bad

>>2687700
The EU will repopulate them with migrants

>>2687701
in poland the communist party was a social club for boomers and students, banning it probably didn't really matter beyond the president using it for publicity with chuds. they were banned for something stupid like praising stalin in an article or something. socialist parties here seem to just proclaim their support of democracy or something to the government and stay legal. none of them are relevant btw, there's some socdems sympathetic to socialism though

File: 1770753325601.png (787.31 KB, 1016x573, ClipboardImage.png)

>>2687690
The -stans are rapidly going the way of the butthurt belt so China better make fast with those treats before there are NATO bases on its border

>>2687754
China really sucks at foreign policy, its only good with trade, extremely bad and negligent PR, defenders of China are literally praising isolation.

>>2687701
And how is that different from having a controlled opposition communist party like in Belarus and Russia?

>>2687693
This is kind of why I think socialist revolution is most likely in Ukraine. People don't want to fucking die in Nazi war anymore.

>>2687706
>he thinks migrants want to move to those shitholes
lol

>>2687693
*Why* though?

not in your lifetime, next question

File: 1770868032734.jpeg (40.91 KB, 256x256, Unknown.jpeg)

It depends on if they are surrounded by powerful enough countries and if they have a revolution first

>>2689209
It will definitely be within OP's lifetime with the way things are going particularly Central Asia and Russia

>>2689279
a part two would be interesting, kino even, but i dont think it's gauranteed

>>2687685
>SECOND WORLD
hasn't been a thing for almost 40 years now
>>2687701
propagation of totalitarian systems including communism has been illegal in poland since 1992

it used to be a dead law because no one takes commies seriously but communist parties haven't been legal for decades

>>2689309
Tbf everyone knows that glazing trump with words(but not necessarily substantial actions) is an easy way to get on his good side and secure more favorable relations without paying any actual cost.

>>2687685
impossible in any of the balkan countries,no good human capital for a communist party.
KPJ was carried by gigants of men and most died in the war/in 48.
What was left over were scraps,what grew after it was scum what we have now is even less.

>>2687685
Yes and I'm working on it

>>2687754
Central asian porkies are very cynical, they'll say anything to anyone as long as they can balance their asses on the three chairs of west, russia and china

>>2689283
This time, without the europeans

>>2694900
while it make sense short term,long term it just mean you're getting coup by the CIA at some point since no one really wants to defend you,but at the same time,China doesn't even help you if you do get couped so whatever

That is the only place where revolution is possible, actually. Hitler got one thing right, Slavs are genetically, racially predisposed to communism.

>>2694889
Balkan is also too developed, you cannot have a revolution without proletariat. in Slovenia, maybe 30% of people are proletariat. In 1945 it was more like 80% which is the critical mass needed for class struggle and revolution.
Obviously you can still have class struggle, but it will be class struggle of proletarians + petite bourgeoisie versus national bourgeoisie, which will mean that private property will still be preserved in the end, just limited.

>>2687701
>>2689293
having your communist party be illegal is not a deal breaker but something you're supposed to work around.

>>2687685
Marx showed more enthusiasm towards Centers of imperial power and capital for a reason.

>>2695506
And he was objectively wrong. Also he was a unfortunately a western supremacist and his idea that socialism will happen in the west is a form of his cope, he WISHED that socialism would happen in the west first, because he believed in superiority of western civilization.


Unique IPs: 21

[Return][Go to top] [Catalog] | [Home][Post a Reply]
Delete Post [ ]
[ home / rules / faq / search ] [ overboard / sfw / alt ] [ leftypol / edu / labor / siberia / lgbt / latam / hobby / tech / games / anime / music / draw / AKM / ufo ] [ meta ] [ wiki / shop / tv / tiktok / twitter / patreon ] [ GET / ref / marx / booru ]