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Previous Thread: >>2686916
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Hate this stupid shit where natives are just a token of purity and righteousness for online debate.
Is the genocide that complete? You feel comfortable with it?

>>2689258
>Is the genocide that complete?
anon they literally live in reservations where all they're legally allowed to do is drink themselves to death while waiting for extinction.

>>2688675
>do you really think Stalin, Khrushchev and Brezhnev were going to achieve utopian communism
>utopian
Succdems continue to be clowns and praise pizza man of all people

>>2689252
By this reasoning "Natives" should also go back to Asia where they migrated from.
>>2689260
They can't get a job in the city like the everyone else is forced to do?

>>2689267
>They can't get a job in the city like the everyone else is forced to do?
The reservations are usually pretty far away from any major city.

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>>2689252
In the last thread it was established that i can stay if convert to huichilopotcjli worship

>>2689273
Most natives actaully live off rez now

>>2689186
I disagree it seems undemocratic to have a certain ethnicity decide what happens with natural resources (ironic because the white man decided to make the entire continent his), but the natives do good work in this field lots of fish biologist work for the tribal governments so i doubt they would do a worse job than for example the forest service which is very timber sales oriented

>>2688774
>I don't consider america to be the weakest link in the imperial chain economics wise, i think that title belongs to japan or the UK
Curious why the UK and especially Japan of all things are most likely to see revolution

>>2689282
Not him but taking a guess:

UK has no economy outside of financial services that are all basically just a hollow husk leeching off the legacy of the British Empire with no labor value produced.

Japan's population is on the verge of demographic collapse with how old they are, and sooner or later they simply won't have enough people to keep their social security system going. When it collapses the Japanese Millennials and Gen Z will riot over being swindled, and it'll happen sooner than America or any other Western country's social security collapse because Japan's birthrate is just so much worse. America is at least economically propped up by high immigrant birthrates.

>>2689273
My home town was also far away from my current location where I moved because of a job. It's not just me of course. The majority of humanity were forced into cities by capitalists. Do you think natives should be exempt from this process because of their race?

>>2689286
Reservations are ostensibly independent tribal land so the idea of moving to the cities is like moving to a different country in what is being asked. Of course most natives do live off reservations these days but still. The federal government gave them land to live on but made sure that land is economically barren so their descendants would be forced to either leave and join the American Imperialist side or die out.

This isn't very different from how Palestinians are treated. Lots of Palestinians left the West Bank to work in Israel, and Israel makes sure to keep Palestinians unable to build any local industry through blockades and constant harassment so the Palestinians are forced to go to Israel for economic survival. This is also a part of Imperialism.

>>2689286
>moralism

>>2689267
>>2689275
amicable portion of genocidal bourgeois epstein euroamerikan settler klass konglomerate must be denaturalized if they are to stay.

>>2688928
Money abolished

>>2689057
>not paying ice goons
What?

>>2689287
>Reservations are ostensibly independent tribal land
Capitalism doesn't stop at magical national borders of imagined communities.
>that land is economically barren so their descendants would be forced to either leave and join the American Imperialist side or die out.
Land Enclosure, kicking peasants off land and forcing them into cites to work for the merchants is older than imperialism.
>>2689292
exactly what I'm criticizing

>>2689307
Mind you, ICE is being supported by American taxpayers

>>2689260
Chans are a lot like reserves, everyone's mental and pulling each other down. Nobody does anything and i saw a pretty extensive drug discussion from your regulars. We got more in common than you think.

>>2689021
Except stalin also lost unless you believe every leader of the soviet union post-stalin was just abnormally incompetent. Which isn't to say you won't have to balance the nation-state and internationalist politics (if we were to have a successful revolution anywhere) but Stalinism and to some extent Leninism did not work.

>>2689058
brain tumor status?

>>2689173
That’s a very insane gun.

>>2689267
>By this reasoning "Natives" should also go back to Asia where they migrated from.
all humans should retvrn to africa

>>2688774
The weakest link is EU states

>>2689318
Only if they allow me to mating press a big booty nubian queen

>>2688976
>England
>Britain
>Israel
>BIG GAY
fighting abrahamic schizophrenia with abrahamic schizophrenia… big sad

>>2688838
Even if you are latino, you change your names to something more palatable for the ameriburgers. Jose Lopez? Yosef Lopeman or Lopeheimer! Luis Garcia? Luzi Garciwitz!

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>>2689324
Alejandro Jodorowsky

>>2689315
>stalin also lost
Communism was at it's height under his leadership. Blaming him for the the dissolution of the USSR decades after his death doesn't make sense as CPSU had plenty of chances to turn the situation around.
>unless you believe every leader of the soviet union post-stalin was just abnormally incompetent.
They were but it wasn't the only problem.Lenin's explicit ban on factionalism meant the party couldn't publicly revisit issues where they made mistakes. Lenin's solution to the national question meant USSR and eastern block had inbuilt festering divisions just waiting for the capitalist to take advantage.
>Stalinism and to some extent Leninism did not work.
Building a state, sizing power and centralizing are the key ingredients for creating social change. Literally every influential civilization in existence is evidence. CPC in China is current evidence but anarcho-libs refuse to see the obvious.

>>2689328
Wrong. Everything you wrote is factually wrong.

>>2689312
Wrong, ice is being funded through imperialist plunder.

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There is no jewish cabal. There is no world jewish conspiracy.

>>2689315
>>2689328
>>2689329
>muh great man theory
<muh awful man theory
both wrong. the USSR collapsed not because of any one single cause or person, but because of several causes and several people going back to before its founding. WW1 made the February and October Revolutions possible, but it also sealed the USSR's eventual doom. Because when the Bolsheviks were victorious in Oct 1917, they were born not into an ideal economic situation, but into a country which was losing the biggest war in human history, a war the bolsheviks were willing to sign the punishing treaty of Brest Litovsk to get out of. Then immediately after getting out of the war, a coalition of 14 nations invaded the future USSR to push them back into WW1, and also to collect the tsar's war debts, which the Bolsheviks declared invalid. This also triggered a civil war with monarchist and bourgeois-republican forces, who joined together into an unholy alliance to exorcise the spectre of communism. Once the civil war was through, the USSR was born, but its birth was marked by the birth defects of the problematic and painful pregnancy which preceded it. In the interwar period rapid industrialization, and collectivization of agriculture were necessary, but kulaks resisted violently through sabotage, causing famine. Once rapid industrialization and collective farms were up and running smoothly, the communists had no time to breathe because Hitler was already beginning his conquest of Europe, and being appeased by England and France. The bourgeois liberals of Western Europe were signing non-aggression pacts with Hitler, long before the USSR did, and they were rejecting any potential anti-fascist alliance with the communists at first. Meanwhile the bourgeoisie of North America were helping Hitler as well, especially Ford and IBM. Hitler's goal was total extermination of "judeobolshevism" and ᴉuᴉlossnW also was taking over Italy. So far the USSR has had ZERO TIME TO BREATHE in the first 30 years of its existence, and on the 31 year, the great purge came in 1938. In 1939 the USSR did the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact to buy time and move factories east. Some Communists and their sympathizers in the West were shocked and appalled by this realpolitik and did not have the benefit of hindsight like we do. Hitler violated the pact anyway and launched operation barbarossa, killing millions of soviet citizens. WW2 was bloody and resulted in extermination of many people in Ukraine, Belarus, Russia, and other soviet nations. Recovery was slow and anemic, because the USSR refused to take the Marshall plan aid, which would have required privatization of their economy along capitalist lines, and payment of exorbitant interest rates. This refusal not only made their recovery slower than West Germany, which was injected with US cash, called an "economic miracle on the rhine," but NATO was created around the same time, along with nuclear weapons, necessitating an endless arms race and the cold war, therefore more military spending for the USSR than would have otherwise been the case. USSR tried to join NATO in 1954, but since the purpose of NATO was to "keep the Russians out, the Germans down, the Americans in," the USSR was not allowed to join, USSR was once again forced down a path of siege warfare against the capitalist world. Around this time as well, the postcolonial movement mostly chose to call itself "non aligned" rather than explicitly siding with the Soviets, and the UN was created to give an illusion of postcolonial sovereignty. The UN approved of the US invading DPRK, after artificially dividing the country in the 1940s and installing a US military dictatorship in the South. PRC won its civil war, but this would create problems later with the Sino-Soviet split. In 1953 Sputnik was launched, Stalin died, and the USSR begin to win the space race, but this wouldn't matter much in the long run. Khruschevite revisionism spat on Stalin's legacy, Brezhnev oversaw a period of stagnation, the USSR bit lethal bait in Afghanistan laid by operation Cyclone, and got its own equivalent of the Vietnam war, and Gorbachev managed the decline and dissolution. Yeltsin took over the federation and privatized everything in a drunken rampage. We all know the story now of how the nation with the most female pHd students became a hotbed of poverty and child prostitution in the 1990s as the privatization effort sold off former Soviet state assets at bargain bin prices to western capitalist plunderers. The entire history of the USSR from beginning to end can be analogized to a starving man locked inside a small house, in an armed standoff with the police outside. He never had a chance. It was just the Paris commune, but for 80 years instead of 3 months.

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>>2689335
There is no burger Hibernian cabal. There is no world Hibernian conspiracy.

>>2689335
Okay? And?

>>2689338
The international degenerated. Here, one sentence.

>>2689343
devil in details.

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>>2689341
I want the Hibernian cabal to beat the Israeli cabal. Tiocfaidh ár lá

>>2689344
All those listed sequences of events, at least most of them, can be explained away by international degenerating and workers movement being weak if not non existent.

>>2689329
have fun remaining a brainwashed capitalist puppet until you die I guess
>>2689338
>>2689343
Yet the CPC and the DPRK still exist?
No, the USSR had deep flaws in it's construction. Allowing nationalism to fester and the party just letting the nationalists take power at the end was what doomed them. Even an August Coup kicking out Gorbachev immediately after the Berlin wall fell would have gone a long way. It should have happened long before but the fall of the wall proved his policies a failure and it should have been corrected immediately.

>>2689348
>explained by
more like summarized as

>>2689359
>No, the USSR had deep flaws in it's construction. Allowing nationalism to fester and the party just letting the nationalists take power at the end was what doomed them.
we've been over this before. the constituent nations in the USSR wanted to stay in the USSR. The USSR would never have been successfully born in the first place without concessions to minority nationalities which had previously been oppressed by the tsar of "all the Russias"

>>2688824
I just watched this. Epic meltdown but her shrill voice is difficult to endure. What a petulant child. She's cooked, might even end up in prison. Good times ahead.

>>2689368
True, USSR was nationalist.

>>2689368
What does this have to do with nationalism?

>>2689359
USSR was a russian nation state.

>>2689359
The dismantling of ussr was a progressive move from Eltsyn. By doing this he liberated minorities from russian oppression.

>>2689372
Correction, she better be going to prison. Let her have what she measured out to others while denying them justice. It's only right and just.

>>2689368
I remember our earlier conversations. However, I missed your counter arguments to the following.
>the constituent nations in the USSR wanted to stay in the USSR.
Focusing exclusively on the USSR misses the nationalism of the Eastern Block which destabilized the entire system and increased the instability in the USSR proper. Also regardless of our difference in views over nationalism why wasn't the eastern block part of the USSR by the 60s? It should have been pushed for as soon as possible and invasion of Hungary showed they couldn't say no.
>The USSR would never have been successfully born in the first place without concessions to minority nationalities
True. However the nationalism situation had largely changed by the 70s and could have been further changed by using Russian as a lingua franca to increase unity after the 40s. But this basic education was neglected causing further division. Fluency didn't even reach 30% in some republics by 1989. Compare that to China's push to increase Mandarin use in all of China's population including it's ethnic minorities.

>>2689381
Liberated from Russian oppression in order to have the freedom to prostitute their children to progressive Westerners.

>>2689307
A lot of them are working pro bono but unwittingly. They think the guy who stiffs contractors and lawyers is still going to pay them. They'll prolly get an IOU that says 'two more weeks'.


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