Are there legitimate reasons for leftists to oppose biracialism?
A lot of Black liberationists (including Frantz Fanon) have brought up the issues with inter-racial relationships on the basis they are largely a product of colonialism and imperialism. Colonized peoples face tremendous pressure to change themselves to be more palatable to whiteness. This includes being in romantic relationships with who’re people and having babies with whites.
That may not seem like a big deal but it actually matters a lot. Black intergenerational wealth is one such issue. When a rich or upper-middle class Black guy has children with a white (or non-Black) woman, his wealth gets passed down to mixed hands, not Black hands. This makes it much harder for the Black community as a whole to acquire intergenerational wealth since all of their wealth is being inherited by biracials. Black biracials who were raised by white mothers in particular also report feeling huge psychological problems because their white mothers always held them to white cultural norms and deprived them of their blackness. Plus, there is a huge attempt by the white supremacist media to highlight biracials as opposed to actual Black people. Look at how Drake and Kehlani are propped up by pop culture as opposed to authentic Black people like Doechii.
Personally, I think leftists need to start being critical of this phenomenon since it has implications for liberatory politics and anti-imperialism. Groups like the NOI have always opposed biracial baby-making and I think we should learn from them.
Do you want segregation or not?
>>2692890>intergenerational wealthWe are communists here, retard.
>>2692900I want Black folks to determine their own destiny.
>>2692904Until it means romantic and sexual relationships with non black people
Bro really out here going:
>Ackshually you sere, this is why my broke uygha ass deserves to deserve this uygha's money instead of his own biological children who he chooses to leave it to in his will on accountThe sheer audacity broke uygha.
Also why would leftists give one fuck about inheritance rights and "generational wealth" you dumb fuck? Read the manifesto.
> 3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance. Stop looking for a handout all ways.
>>2692904By looking for handouts for people that have no relationship or obligation to you whatsoever?
>>2692904Black and white people stop existing when segregation ends
>>2692906Romance is political. It’s exactly like how dating biases may be indicative of ableism.
>>2692909So you are arguing for segregation
Broke uyghas will make and watch 10000 hours about reparations and I deserve to inherit some unrelated uygha's money who worked for it before they think about how to get a job.
>>2692907Do you not realize the importance of intergenerational wealth to marginalized folks? The main reason the Black nation remains poor is because of how difficult it is for them to acquire intergenerational wealth. Black dollars don’t stay in Black hands. It’s exactly why Jews and Asians setting up businesses in Black areas is wrong.
>>2692910I think biracial relationships are a product of colonialism and anti-Blackness, yes.
>>2692915The end of marginalization means the end of your identity and culture
>>2692918Because the entire basis of your culture is your marginalization, poverty, and victimization, if that disappears so do you
Dude, those biracial children, are that Black man or women's biological children. You have no relation to them. That's why they didn't write you into the will broke uygha. I don't know how this is such a hard concept.
So where do the mixed race children go and what do they do?
Segregation but woke
>>2692925That’s the line of Nation of Islam which OP endorses
>>2692890idpol thread
i'm mutt and i don't care.
the race mixing will continue, chud
>Leftists: seethe about Jews controlling Black culture
>also leftists: have no issue with Black wealth and accolades being given to Black biracials who benefit from colourism and featureism in a colonial white supremacist system
>>2692945Colorism destroys solidarity between black people, just look at Bissau and Cape Verde, people like you would have us believing Cape Verdians aren’t Africans
>>2692890>>2692904I truly hope this is bait.
>>2692957There is no bait, everyone here posts what they honestly feel in the moment
>>2692945>Leftists: seethe about Jews controlling Black cultureLiterally nobody says that. That's more a Wyatt Mann type thing.
>also leftists: have no issue with Black wealth and accolades being given to Black biracials who benefit from colourism and featureism in a colonial white supremacist systemDamn bro, who is this post for? Like you really think you're going to get a bunch of White and other race leftists to go:
<You know what, those Black biracials really have it too easy as compared to the "pure Black" people. I will join you in your great cause against miscegenation my black brother!You'd be better off looking for White allies on /pol/ for this endeavor. That is the usually place the alliance forms.
Classic "racism is ok when we do it" being cloaked in a leftist veneer.
No. True liberation race-wise cannot occur until the concept is de-legitimised, reduced to something as irrelevant as hair color. Using another group being racist as an excuse to cultivate your own racial group identity just keeps the pendulum swinging and will never solve the problem.
>>2692975Like I remember during the great Adele Bantu Knot controversy. It was all FBA's going:
>NOOO SHE CAN'T DO THAT!And all the Jamaican people were like:
<Who the fuck made you king of Black people?But they seriously think that. I have seriously heard them make claims about how they are the global leader of Black people because nobody fought White oppression like them or something something, I dunno.
>>2692949I’m a 90s kid, and I will say that Alicia got a ton of fanfare specifically because she’s mixed. Lauryn Hill and Erykah Badu were way more soulful than her yet barely got the same amount of positive attention.
>>2693002Lauryn Hill got multiple grammys for Miseducation and Miseducation is considered the best non grunge album of the 90s by multiple mainstream publications
>>2693014>nor have a pre-determined spot on the pecking order by the colour of their skin.Yeah, there was this famous Black American who had a dream about that.
But actually the Black guys collaborating with Nazis in the good fight against miscegenation were the real heroes. We must take up their mantle. UYGHA HEIL HITLER!
The great irony of going:
>the mulattoes identify as White and don't want to associate with us
<and this is why we shouldn't identify or associate with them!
No self reflection.
>>2693032Are you Black? Because if you’re not, this doesn’t affect you in any way.
>>2693010Lauryn got a ton of hate for her Unplugged album though.
>>2692955Biracials are not Black. Period. If a biracial doesn’t represent white why would they represent Black? They are their own group and should be looked at accordingly.
>race is a psyop
>white supremacy culture is a psyop
>white privilege is a psyop
>structural racism is a psyop
>class reductionism is a psyop
happy to help
>>2693037I can laugh at you and your illogic regardless. You are acting like there is a Black representation quota and that every mulatto star is taking your rightful seat.
Very ironic too you are accusing mulattoes of being house uyghurs yet you are complain that they are stealing your seat at massa's table.
>>2693038Because it was awful
>>2693039So you support the coup against Luis Cabral?
>>2692890>Frantz FanonBro literally had a mental breakdown when he learned Antillean Creole is not French.
>>2693039So are Quadroons and Octoroons each their own separate group too? What's your views on the one drop policy?
This is crakkker tendencies being placed onto brown communities, the idea that consensual adult relationships are "destroying" your culture makes your culture look weak and unworthy of protection.
Is this what passes for ml theory these days? Segregation and Franz fanon? Lol how far leftypol has fallen. Why is it leftcoms destroy mls on every imaginable leve
>>2693054It's the natural extension of giving nationalists to much room to bitch about their stupid cultures. There is a good reason Stalin and Mao actively relocated various peoples and forced them to integrate.
>>2693065I sometimes look at all the projects to standardize humanity: Esperanto, transhumanism, etc. Like, I get what it's like to have your culture destroyed (I'm an NDN) but at this point most projects to preserve cultures are just protecting ignorance. People say it's racist to move to different countries, learn different languages, etc, but we should unironically promote that as much as possible or else reaction creeps into political projects.
>>2693067Yeah, learning a new language or culture doesn't mean destroying the old one. imo everyone should be raised to be bilingual at minimum but it's difficult to advocate when nationalists insist learning something new and even interacting with other people destroys them somehow.
>>2693073It depends on which language becomes the lingua franca, the universal language accepted by the institutions
>>2693073Yeah, this is also why I hate "lingua francas" since such a thing advantages native speakers. We see this today with English, and in the past it was French and Latin.
Somebody fire up the gulags the radlibs are out here justifying blood quantum racial hygiene and saying it's progressive.
>>2692999NGL this is actually a good point.
>>2692890Fanon married a white woman himself and his kids are mixed.
>>2693122No it isn't. Biracial people are considered Black under American racial classification, and essentially all American Black people have some white ancestors. Biracial people are not being elevated into whiteness, nor are they being anti-Black or contributing to the problems Black people are facing. Capitalism is causing these problems and the solution is to abolish it. Simple as that. No amount of racial hygiene or anti-race mixing measures will solve these problems. OP is either trolling or a reactionary radlib.
>>2693124>Biracial people are considered Black under American racial classification,Only if they look more Black than white. Race in America is largely done by phenotype much more so than actual biological background.
>>2692975Jamaica has different systems of race than America, idiot. Nearly everyone in the Caribbean is mixed.
>>2693140Mm go ahead and explain your local racial classifications, but keep in mind, I don't care you dumb faggot. You already know you are responding in a bumplocked thread. If you want to reengage in a fresh thread I am open to it
>>2693126If I saw Kehlani and didn't know who she was I'd assume she's Latina. She looks entirely Mexican to me.
>>2692890>intergenerational wealthYou're not welcome round these parts, liberal boy
>>2692890>>2692915I find it telling how so much of modern (bourgeois) Black politics centres around Black folks being highly territorial with their wealth. My best guess is, Blacks and Jews were redlined into the same neighbourhoods once upon a time (Brooklyn and all that), and Blacks saw how Jews got out of poverty largely by being territorial with Jewish wealth (e.g. Jews would set up kosher delis and such and other Jews would specifically buy from them, Jews would only hire Jewish lawyers, American Jews rarely intermarried until like 50 years ago). Makes sense but I still don't like it and find it reactionary af.
>>2693002Lauryn and Erykah are black supremacist hoteps.
>>2692890>deprived them of their blacknessThats a good thing they'll be less likely to be lumpen criminals.
Why do American leftists practically worship Blacks?
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