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>move to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
>homeless, staying in downtown area
>see anarchist and communist stickers on every street pole
>get a place in a low income black neighborhood in southwest Philly, don't see a single flyer or sticker for anything communism-related anymore unless i walk to university city
>get a job that involves working in a different neighborhood every day
>see flyers and stickers for every communist org under the sun in the gentrified areas full of college kids and transplants, never see a single one in the poor and black areas

I've been extremely disillusioned with the so-called "left". Communism is not an extracurricular activity for university students and the revolution will not be led by people sitting around talking about how much they agree with each other and validating each other on how much of a very smart boy they are. As a dirt poor communist who takes the ideology seriously, what the fuck do I do when this is what I'm given to work with? I'm thinking of starting my own movement but I have no idea how I'd organize on a budget of $0.00.

>never see a single one in the poor and black areas
You're just now realizing most non-whites are reactionary garbage?

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>>2697720
>You're just now realizing most non-whites are reactionary garbage?

>As a dirt poor communist who takes the ideology seriously, what the fuck do I do when this is what I'm given to work with?
Well, middle class intellectuals have pretty much always formed the upper leadership of most communist revolutions. Marx was a journalist, Mao was a schoolteacher, Ho Chi Minh was the son of a bureaucrat, Lenin and Castro were lawyers, Che was a med student, etc. Obviously the majority of these uni students aren't going to be these kind of people, and most probably wouldn't even make good rank and file party members. But there are definitely going to be middle class intellectuals in the movement, perhaps even forming its nucleus and leadership. If we follow Lenin on this question, it's not surprising that you would see communist posters around a university before you saw them in a ghetto. I will say though that if these people aren't at least trying to organize in those poor communities then they're either not serious or just stupid.

>>2697720
i'm pretty sure OPs point is that too many "communists" are Kautskyite intellectuals who refuse to talk to the poor.

>>2697732
When the middle class feels the pressure enough to start seriously thinking about revolution in any society it has almost always been time ripe for revolution or at least major upheaval. It s more like correlation and causation problem. Do troubled times create the conditions for successful revolutions that also does agitate and push a middle class element into the movements and into the leadership, or are serious middle class people somehow necessary for successful revolution.

>>2697713
wtf bros i thought communist ideology would spontaneously spread in ghettoes due to their class position

>>2697720
maybe if the "left" reached out to them they wouldn't fall for reactionary bullshit.
>>2697732
>I will say though that if these people aren't at least trying to organize in those poor communities then they're either not serious or just stupid.
Exactly my point, they aren't reaching out to us! It's fine for a rich/"rich" person to be a communist, but it's the refusal to talk to poor people about communism that bugs me.
>>2697742
Obviously it won't, but if the left isn't reaching out to people in ghettos, they'll just keep turning to the democratic party and this weird hotep group I keep seeing flyers for in the black muslim areas

the old left were workers, the new left are college students and rich white people.

its been like that since the 60s.

>>2697720
Blacks have higher rates of union membership are more likely to be unionized.

Wait, Philadelphia is in Pennsylvania? I live in the US but thought those were two different states.
I even watched Always Sunny in Philidelphia growing up, how did I never pick that up?

>we need 7 burger threads at the same time
Can burgers stop being expansionists for a fucking second

>>2697720
Yeah that was totally their point bro. The irony of being a racist and complaining about reactionaries.

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>>2697713 (OP)
>>judging the state of leftist influence and demographics by stickers and flyers


Could it be that gentrified and uni areas usually have high foot traffic in most cities? Flyers and stickers is not really a very fail-safe way to observe the current state of class struggle politics in your locality. While graffiti and street art does signal a presence in certain areas, it's not as if cities are divided in the same clear lines as a place like Belfast is; the political posters, stickers and graffiti you see don't necessarily have to hold an inherent connection to the neighborhood or location theyre spotted in.

I've just did some basic research without even being anywhere near the city; reaching out to people and using basic search engines. Come on, this is way more valuable info then flyers you personally did or didn't see.

>>Journalist Julia Pagé and director Frédéric Lacelle went to Philadelphia, in the United States, to meet with members of a group that presents itself as the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense. Armed with AK-47s, the party members patrol their neighborhood to defend citizens against police violence. The return of the Black Panthers movement, which originated in the 1960s, is taking place amid heightened tensions surrounding ICE, the federal immigration police, whose operations have been intensified since Donald Trump's return to the presidency. This surge in ICE activity was marked at the beginning of January 2026 by the death of Renee Nicole Good, a 37-year-old American citizen, killed by an agent in Minneapolis. This event triggered protests and strong national outrage, reigniting criticism of the agency's methods, which claims to have carried out more than 605,000 deportations since January 2025.


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrcZkQzCCQI


>>The people's kitchen is a community run organization that uses skills, location and fundraising to provide hot food for community members, and donates kitchen use to multiple mutual aid networks


Source: https://www.peopleskitchenphilly.com/


>>In November, in West Philadelphia, Richard Hames spoke to a member of the local chapter of the Socialist Rifle Association; an organisation that provides mutual aid and firearms education across the city.


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAJUhobADyk

In that last video I noticed it seemed like they were filmed in a radical library of sorts, i looked into it.

>>Lancaster Avenue Autonomous Space, is a community center for radical media and organizing


Source: https://lavazone.org/

>>What is anarchism, really? In this video essay, we dive into the rich history of anarchism in Philadelphia, its philosophical roots, and its powerful connection to the punk rock subculture of the late ’70s. From Voltairine de Cleyre’s revolutionary writings to the boundary-breaking sound of Pure Hell, Philadelphia has been a hub for anarchist ideas and activism.


>>We also explore how anarchist principles continue to thrive today through grassroots efforts, community spaces like The Wooden Shoe, and publications like Anathema. Whether you're new to anarchism or looking for fresh perspectives, this video is a journey through the ideology’s past, present, and enduring influence on resistance and creativity.


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmqBG-VyWp4

In this video I learned of The ABC prison work, the wooden shoes books, and anathema.

>>Founded in 1976, the Wooden Shoe is an all volunteer, collectively-run, anarchist book store. Functioning within a system we oppose, we seek to be an example of one way things can function without anyone commanding or forcing us to think or act a certain way. We have no bosses, managers, or employeesand make all of our decisions through consensus rather than majority rule voting so as to empower those involved. We also identify as an infoshop, meaning that we serve as a space for people to gather, learn, and find out more about like-minded activities happening in their communities.


I looked at their event list and they seem to host multiple things from safe cracking classes, to tenants unit meetings, and first aid training. Seems diverse and something anyone can tap into at the wooden shoes.

Source: https://woodenshoebooks.org/


>>In 1979, Lorenzo Kom’boa Ervin, an anarchist political prisoner in the US at the time, issued a “Draft Proposal for an ABC Network” in hopes that it would initiate a united mass movement rather than individual collectives. This proposal influenced the growth of ABC for over a decade, and in 1995 several groups banded together to form the ABC Federation of which Philly ABC is still a member. In addition to roughly a dozen chapters across so-called North America, there are chapters in Abya Yala (so-called South America), Europe and Asia. As anarchists, we support a diversity of tactics and aim to support current political prisoners as they see fit. Most chapters on Turtle Island prioritize support for Black and Indigenous liberation struggles in addition to people from anarchist and other anti-authoritarian movements.


>>We do not leave our comrades behind when they are prosecuted by the state. We continue to envelop them in the love and support of the community and engage in mutual aid. Repression is expected when one is resisting oppression, so our aim is to strengthen the work in the face of crackdown.


Source: https://phillyabc.org

>>“Revolution is not a thing of the past,” Johnson went on to say. “This commemoration represents how revolutionary organizing is still happening. It is so important to stay involved and show up to challenge injustice and wrongful incarceration.”


Source: https://phillypartisan.com/2018/08/20/revolution-is-not-a-thing-of-the-past-an-account-of-the-move-40-year-commemoration/

https://itsgoingdown.org/building-autonomous-power-radical-struggle-in-philadelphia/

I'm having a hard time finding a website for anathema but apparently its a newspaper that documents local movements and their terrain through contribution. it almost sounds like a messaging board in paper text form rather than a single message. it might not even be online.


It seems like rather than staring at flyers as you walk around the streets, tap into existing infrastructure and get back to us. With limited research I found enough to conclude that philly is a mix of student radicals across political spectrum with a huge tendency towards labor organizing, among the more gritty working-poor sides of the left it appears there are varying interpretations of a scale between anarchism and black liberation marxism. I couldn't say how much overlap there is between them and student groups. I also couldn't tell you anything deeper than that, but neither will staring at flyers downtown.

>>2697767
What part of the country do you live in?

Y O V B E N E F I T

>>2697713
>gets disillusioned by stickers

>>2697713
I feel the same. Honestly yes, start your own thing. Idk how though don't ask me.

Join ACP uygha

It is what you are looking for.

>>2697737
leftychuds need to stop insulting kautsky's name by comparing him to modern leftoids

>>2697767
You're a fucking retard.

>>2697720
Some black people are revolutionary, all diaspora is reactionary though.

>>2697720
No its that poors are lumpen

>>2697713
You don't need anything to join DSA they'll take anyone you don't even have to pay. Such a joke but it's a place to start.

Fentanyl is the real revolutionary subject, not the proletariat, not the middle class, not capital

>>2697842
absolutely the fuck not
>>2698096
I'm interested in joining an org where I can accomplish something other than Democratic Party entryism. (I'm also not interested in third-party reformism, being snitched on by COINTELPRO agents, or being part of an org that covers up sexual assault, so I have no org left to join.)

>>2698143
>I'm also not interested in third-party reformism, being snitched on by COINTELPRO agents, or being part of an org that covers up sexual assault, so I have no org left to join.

Pretty much

<DAE communism is rich white university students?

<all leftist orgs are rapists and spies


kill yourself wrecker

>>2698162
the wreckers are the ones not holding people accountable for sexual assault, thereby making the space unsafe for women

>>2698194
The pendulum goes the other way too, I've seen wreckers get multiple people removed with false allegations.

student activists put more emphasis on flyers,zines,stickers and other visual media while groups based out of a specific neighborhood or locality place more emphasis on mutual aid projects and dual power, this has been the meta of the USian left for at least a couple decades atp.

>>2698143
no unions? or are we not fucking with AFL-CIA buisness unionism?


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