>>"Prostitution is the outlet of too many bourgeois. One turns the son of the poor man into a slave and his daughter into a courtesan. The exploiter class asks for your sons to degrade them, Your daughters to rape them, you and your wives to exploit you. Watch out Parisians. Long Live Anarchy! Long live the commune!"
Albert Libertad, 1898
>>"I have observed that there are a great many people who are hungry, and many children who suffer, whilst bread and clothes abound in the towns. I saw many and large shops full of clothing and woolen stuffs, and I also saw warehouses full of wheat and Indian corn, suitable for those who are in want. And, on the other hand, I saw thousands of people who do not work, who produce nothing and live on the labor of others; who spend every day thousands of francs for their amusement; >>who debauch the daughters of the workers; who own dwellings of forty or fifty rooms; twenty or thirty horses, many servants; in a word, all the pleasures of life."
Auguste Vaillant, Court Speech, 1894
i miss the times when women were whores only because of the money
sex work should be banned globally, including only fans
>>"While the idle, with surplus of money, goes to the stock exchange or somewhere else to speculate, play the market on the misery of the people, or wallow in some fashionable bedroom in the arms of an unwell girl, who is forced to give her flesh to bourgeois for pleasure, despite the disgust that it inspires in her."Clement Duval, 1885
>>2697813>>2697816
>>"How many young girls arrive from the countryside, full of strength and health, only to be enclosed in the workshops, in rooms where there is room for four and they are fifteen, twenty, without air, breathing nothing but pollutants and chemical smoke, hardships they are forced to self-impose. By six months they are anemic. From there the sickness, weakness, manipulation and dislike of work that is not even sufficient to meet their needs drives these unfortunates towards prostitution. What does society do for these victims? It rejects them from her breast, like the leper, puts them on the map, enrolls them with the police and makes informers of their lovers. flesh for bourgeois fun, flesh for profit; that is the fate of woman under capital"Clement Duval, 1887
>>2697813never was such a time. obviously poverty and the promise of money are huge sources of coercion in prostitution, but there have always been people who do it for the love of the game. on rare occasion there are even rich prostitutes. in antiquity there were even temple prostitutes, prostitutes of the priestly class, held in high regard.
>>2697830Do you also think that slavery was caused by black people being submissive?
>>2697830not a single woman in history has ever enjoyed doing sex work
>heroic ways of getting pussy: being poor and fucking rich women without paying because you are attractive/charismatic
>evil ways of getting pussy: being rich and buying working class pussy because you lack the charisma
paying for sex is incredibly gay
>>26978611. men also do sex work
2. try asking some sex workers, many do in fact enjoy their job. There are plenty of them who have openly said as much in interviews. It's definitely not a majority or even a high number, but it's not undheard of and to pretend otherwise is just a weird cope.
>>2698030I've never done it and never will but some people are just aromantic without being asexual. They don't want relationships, they just want a quick fuck to get it off their mind. Though the number one client for prostitutes besides married men is soldiers far away from home. That should tell you something.
Does paying for sex make someone bourgeois?
>>2697830Yeah, and some rape "victims" were asking for it
>>2698033>sex workersOpinions Discarded.
Useless term.
>>2698218he's literally just a based guy who didnt want to ruin his life with politics
>>2698218HWAB (hunter was always based)
>>2698218My understanding is he wasnt even into prostitutes, just seen it as a good way to score a crack link.
Makes sense considering the reality of prostitution.
>>2697830>but there have always been people who do it for the love of the game.lol, delusional. Granted, a prostitute may come to enjoy some aspects of the job, but it's never a line of work someone really chooses without some element of coercion and desperation.
>>2698239Makes sense considering that being the son of a senator/vp/president probably makes it easy to get laid without paying for it.
>>2698040No, in fact many of the "anarchists" and "socialist" workers & lumpenprole who wrote these quotes were enrolled with prostitutes themselves, just in a different sense than usually. Some even used them for info on police informants the same way police used them for police informants. They maintained relationships with prostitutes to a varying degree, and were not bourgeoisie.
>>Jean-Jacques Liabeuf was a French anarchist shoemaker born on January 11, 1886, in Saint-Étienne, who became a symbol of workers resistance against police repression and the criminalization of poverty. In 1910, Liabeuf fell in love with Alexandrine Pigeon, a prostitute whose pimp and lover, Gaston, was reportedly a police informer; a living example of the system Clément Duval had condemned two decades earlier when he wrote that society "makes informers of their lovers." When the Paris vice squad (police des moeurs) arrested and brutalized Liabeuf, sentencing him for pimping, he resolved to take revenge against the police apparatus that exploited and controlled working-class women through networks of informants and bourgeoisie human traffickers.
>>On January 14, 1910, Liabeuf armed himself with a revolver and a knife and ambushed officers from the vice squad, killing one and injuring three others before being apprehended. His trial became a cause célèbre for anarchists and communists across France, who viewed his death sentence not as justice for a common criminal but as a political execution meant to crush resistance against the police state. Despite massive protests and a demonstration of over 10,000 people at his execution, Liabeuf was guillotined on July 1, 1910, at Boulevard Arago in Paris, where clashes between police and his supporters resulted in further violence, including the killing of a policeman by workers in the crowd a death that was met with applause from the assembled masses behind them.
>>The "liabouviste" movement that emerged from his case galvanized anarchist & socialist opposition to the policing of prostitution and exposed the hypocritical bourgeois morality that criminalized the poor while profiting from their exploitation, revealing how the police, prostitutes, pimps, and informants were all trapped in a vicious cycle of economic necessity and state control. sex for pleasure is extremely bourgeois. imagine how much society would improve if we completely outlawed non-reproductive sex
People voluntarily having sex in exchange for compensation is perfectly fine. Natural even. The idea that you could outlaw it or erase it with the right amount of communism is ludicrous.
Sex trafficking is obviously horrible but prostitution does not require it. There will always be a demand for compensated sex and plenty of supply.
>>2698717You are not a leftist.
You are not a communist.
>>2698033Liberal pol is that way→
The prostitute question is a great filter for communists and bourgeois thought social liberal that still want to rape women
>>2698039There is no evidence of asexual people.
Those that do avoid sex is usually because of trauma.
>>2698039>but some people are just aromantic without being asexualThis is called being a detached sociopath who only sees people as objects of sexual gratification
>>2698082did you not read. that's the exact kinda guy who pays for sex
>>2697849no. do you not know how to read? read the post again slowly to find out what it means.
>>2698105semantic nitpicking
>>2699085not an argument
everything stated was correct
>>2697816Everything that Epstein and the people in his circle did was already illegal. Are you seeing anyone being punished or arrested? 99% of all laws and prohibitions only exist to repress the working class. It's what Marcuse called *surplus repression*.
Sex work is bad.
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