/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Yes retard, entire books have been written about it.

it was simply a militarized state-directed capitalist economy

afaik hitler promised industrialists a stake in the post-war economy as long as they promised to build up the productive forces, including infrastructural projects like motorways (hitler also promised every family a suburban existence with a volkswagon beetle). so it was an economy based on crediting capital via war.

one of the easiest topics to look into, if you actually gave a fuck
fucking imbecile

It's called "Keynesianism".

>>2699339
It was a great socialdemocracy for the germans, felt really good to be a german, all the treats and nice things for the germans and allies.
It was like what China is to han chinese is now, very good socialdemocracy, its too bad they involved themselves in wars and shit, if they were more peaceful it would still be around.

>>2699390
>It was like what China is to han chinese is now, very good socialdemocracy, its too bad they involved themselves in wars and shit
the latest cope (it's actually recurring) china = social-democracy = treatlerism = fascism
wgen will you . kill yourself

>>2699390
Like imagine the development of man in the high castle on steroids if it remained, except it wouldin't have all those lands since there wouldin't be wars.
If they could've solved the jewish question without resorting to killing, MLs would've been calling nazi germany an anti-imperialist nation. Maybe in a pact between Nazi Germany and the Russian Federation against America, it would indeed be anti-imperialist.
Hitler to crackers is what Gadaffi was to libyans, if he didn't care about race as much (race isn't real, race is caste and caste is class quote) then he would've been the greatest socialdemocrat in the history of humanity.

>>2699390
Not really franco is not around

>>2699394
They're both good for their subjects of interest though.

>>2699396
Franco cucked out to the crown, Franco's greatest ally should've been the bourgeois republicans, he messed up.

>>2699400
vacuous phrase . means noting

>>2699403
It means they provided a really good standard of living and satisfaction to the groups of people they were intended for. And only those specific groups. It is the endgoal of chauvinism and it was accomplished. A government that nurtures you with its breast milk, a government named after your predisposition - ethnic/racial group. So they receive their mother's milk twice.

>>2699410
yeah the nazis even reversed the negative fertility rate trend, until the war started at least lol

>>2699402
Not only franco. Pinochet, musolini, peron all those guys they were just place holder people.

>>2699410
They treated the lumpen like the brainless toddlers they are, thrive when nurtured and work. Nothing more, economic units to keep everything intact. It was the war economy that abused this relationship.

I am 100% certain that if the nazis didn't take a pro-war stance they would still be around. They had enough scuffles to get into power and it could've ended with that. Nazism in essence would've been nothing more than seizing electorial power by violence towards a nurturing bourgeois government.

Look at the nazi cartoon artist thread on Siberia, that motherfucker in america is still shilling for the "Strength Through Joy" program even though he didn't even live to see it. He is dissapointed his government is not nurturing him.

>>2699410
this is NOTHING like communist china . there they h ave large social programs and affrmative action . for minorities

>>2699425
i don t have to believe . because it is FACT

>>2699425
The only people allowed to own firearms in China are ethnic minorites that hunt with flintlocks

>>2699424
They're doing the right thing (on the subject of uyghurs) to keep them satisfied not to cause problems, islamist attacks and CIA funded style jihadist islamism are trying to teach them that their government doesn't care for them, but when the government does care and provide for them then such propaganda is outed as a lie.

>>2699429
so about 100 people? wow

>>2699429
What a weird metric. Do you have any idea how retarded you sound?

>>2699431
More like 10,000, which is sort of like 100 people in a country of a billion

>>2699433
China is literally the wokest place on earth and that’s part of the evidence

>>2699422
Extremely unlikely since they drove the entire country into massive debt
>>2699410
> It means they provided a really good standard of living and satisfaction to the groups of people they were intended for. And only those specific groups. It is the endgoal of chauvinism and it was accomplished. A government that nurtures you with its breast milk, a government named after your predisposition - ethnic/racial group.
This is nazi propaganda. First thing that happened to the german workers is that they lost their unions and got their wages repressed while prices soared.
The Nazis already had food riots in germany by 1936
https://archive.is/yxv3U
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/35916494

>>2699385
Popular history books glaze over how suicidal and retarded their economic setup was, not to mention that they fail to mention the hardships that were imposed on the germany population early on, eating up reich propaganda 80+ years later

>>2699395
>Hitler to crackers is what Gadaffi was to libyans
Follow your leader and pull the fucking trigger

>>2699435
You're the woketard, projecting your retardation on China

>nazi economy
It was a less efficient Amerikan economy.

>>2699437
>This is nazi propaganda. First thing that happened to the german workers is that they lost their unions and got their wages repressed while prices soared.
It is nazi propaganda and it worked, many germans still had a positive opinion of their government in spite of it. The social services made up for the lack of worker control. Inflation was largely a problem associated with the Weimar Republic to be resolved.
>The Nazis already had food riots in germany by 1936
Seems trivial, not like they were starving.

>>2699447
Mao had two main political enemies after WWII, Han chauvinism and Soviet Revisionism, he’s very literally woke and none of the subsequent Chinese administrations backed down on that front

>>2699422
>nazis not waging war
The wars were crucial in maintaining their system, both political and economic. It wasn't just Hitler's or Himmler's whim.

>>2699444
woah edgy

>>2699453
Just making shit up atp

>>2699437
>First thing that happened to the german workers is that they lost their unions and got their wages repressed while prices soared
and they still loved Nazism. they wanted it and they got it

>>2699444
Why do american crackers glaze his social policies then? Look at this cartoon, they want vaccations and shit.

>>2699466
Its like serbs who still brag about how Tito let them travel the world when the rest of the eastern bloc couldin't, they had social policies and shit so they wouldin't have to worry about going broke from travelling

>>2699466
Anon that cartoon is made by an actual Nazi that's trying to dupe people into supporting Nazism. In actuality the Nazis cut wages, shrank the welfare state, smashed unions, and privatized industry. What welfare state they did maintain they inherited from previous governments, particularly the Social Democrats of the Weimar era.

Hitler would be the greatest figure in European history if he didn't invade the USSR.

>>2699339
Hitler admired the Soviet economy and even defended Stakhanov system, which he said it was “exceedingly stupid” to ridicule

>One has to have unqualified respect for Stalin. In his way, the guy is quite a genius! His ideals such as Genghis Khan and so forth he knows very well, and his economic planning is so all-encompassing that it is only exceeded by our own Four-Year Plan. I have no doubts whatsoever that there have been no unemployed in the USSR, as opposed to capitalist countries such as the USA. (Picker 1983, 452)

>>2699477
Yeah Anon exterminating every Jew, Romani, socialist, and trade unionist is totally based.

>>2699475
> In actuality the Nazis cut wages, shrank the welfare state, smashed unions, and privatized industry.
China did this too

>>2699475
Damn but why were most german citizens glazing it then? Theres like tons of books documenting how normal germans saw the regime, they didn't even care about the war and shit, what did it give to them to hold a positive attitude? Some anon in USApol even posted accounts from after the war still looking back at it with nostalgia. Was it the territorial gains?

>>2699485
>Damn but why were most german citizens glazing it then?
Most likely because despite all this they managed to stabilize the German economy and deal with issues like unemployment and inflation. However this was mostly accomplished by just borrowing tons of money and spending it on rearming. They also put an end to the internal political chaos that characterized Weimar. Most likely a lot of people remember it as a time of relative stability. However the economic data doesn't lie, the greatest beneficiaries of all this were the German capitalists.

>>2699485
>Damn but why were most german citizens glazing it then
the same reason why german citizens at that time glazed the Kaiser for losing world war one, because its always the out-groups fault. blaming Hitler meant blaming themselves

>>2699385
Cant play that video in Denmark

>>2699485
>Why would the benefactors of a genocidal explotative regime glaze that regime?
Nazi germany = amerikkka

>>2699513
I'd also wonder if they asked people in the GDR their opinions or only westerners.

>>2699527
In what way did German workers benefit from the Nazi regime?

>>2699542
they got vacations and autobahn

>>2699339
Fascism exists solely as a henchman of finance capital to attack and silence the organization of workers as an independent force. Nationalist ideology was born by destroying the local cultures of the peoples within a country for an abstract concept invented by the bourgeoisie to create the modern state.

Capitalism is a global system that seeks only to generate more profits for the bosses and their shareholders. All the public companies that Nazi Germany possessed were created in the Weimar Republic by the Social Democratic Party of Germany, or by the bourgeois parties there, who chose an alternative option as a way to pacify the masses, knowing that if there were no concessions, much more radical government programs would be passed, or instability would increase with pressure from workers, unions, socialist intellectuals, and students for their rights (this is how social rights were achieved in all countries of the world, that is, a concession from the bourgeoisie to the workers so that when they lower their guard and become passive, they will be stabbed in the back when the capitalists see an opportunity and act at a favorable moment).

All third-position groups originated from gangs and paramilitary groups that attacked workers with the police who organized against the interests of their bosses (hence the emergence of the Red Guard for the self-defense of these workers and their communities against the bourgeoisie and their henchmen). The very concepts of neoliberalism in current states have embryonic origins in privatizations (such as the privatization of German workers' pensions by private entities for speculation), the flexibilization of labor laws, and the purchase of bank dividends.

All nationalists after World War II began to try to blackmail, for opportunistic reasons, some concession from the United States on how to preserve capitalism through repression or conciliation of concessions to pacify the workers and try to get closer to the labor movement, frightened by what the bootlickers of the US government wanted. Those who encouraged sovereignty and offered it the means to develop were the socialists and the working-class movement of the planet.

Here's an untold story by liberals about the history of fascism as a lackey of the bourgeoisie, with Michael Parenti:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zkRBdKzN0Y

The Nazis so thoroughly destroyed the power of the working class that their puppet labor union was only enthusiastic about further exploiting workers for the bourgeoisie. The Nazi economy was incapable of sustaining itself without debt and wars to solve the problem of the declining rate of profit for German capitalists. This necessitated new colonies and semi-colonies to exploit, which were lost in the First World War. Furthermore, German chauvinism would transform other European countries into colonies for financial capitalism, which could become concessions for German settlers. The only solution the Nazis could come up with was to create a caste of German aristocrats and settlers with an immense workforce of other peoples who would serve as slaves, second-class citizens, or serfs in exploitative colonies for the enrichment of capitalists who would have Germany as their imperial center.

>>2699339
its literally one of the most easily viewable
topics on youtube.

the finance minister did a bunch of financial voodo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRlbUeji01U

>>2699339
they had trading partners for things like oil and minerals, but then north africa was liberated, and then sicily was liberated, and romania was liberated. and then there wasn't any axis country left except germany.

but did it really work though. or was malnutrition rampant? how easy was it to get things like chocolate, tobacco, and playing cards? I'm not sure that their economy ever worked. are you sure your question isn't based on a myth?

people worked 70 hours a week pressing cartridges and got paid in coupons redeemable for specific food.. lmao

quit smoking the history channel

>>2699542
Nazism instituted Keynsian policies that were unable to be pushed through the Weimar politically deadlocked system.

>>2699621
No they didn't. The Social Democrats had implemented such policies and the Nazis rolled them back. Germany was pretty much the only country in the world that was carrying out large scale privatization at the time (the word was actually coined to describe their policies). Everybody else responded to the Depression by expanding state involvement in the economy, welfare and jobs programs, etc. Even Fascist Italy did this. Only the Nazis responded by reducing it.

>>2699670
You confuse nationalisation with Keynsianism. Nationalisation in Germany actually goes back to Bismarck, not SPD. Keynsianism is things like New Deal's public works or the Autobahn which both tried to get out of the economic downturn through state-organzed works providing employment and wages.

>>2699444
are you gaddafipilled, moffin?

>>2699814
No chance. He'll pull a "neither sarkozy nor gaddafi" as always.

>>2699777
Then I still don't see how German workers benefitted from Nazi rule considering they could easily have had those things without bringing about the total destruction of their country.

>>2699851
If they didn't how come they clamor for and wax nostalgic for their formef glory to this day

>>2699464
China is woke left, deal with it

>>2699898
I'm not at all convinced that they do.

>>2699390
>It was like what China is to han chinese is now
China literally has affirmative action programs for non-han groups and says China is a multi-ethnic state. Where is this in Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy?

>>2699367
Fpbp

>How did the nazi economy work?
It didn't.

>>2699481
Jews are ontologically evil and Romani belong in India

>how the nazi economy eorked?
basically huge debt and systematic plunder of conquered countries to fill the pockets of the porkies the most chummy with you to whom you sold everything public and to build weapons, with violent repression of workers rights

>it's taking this long to post the pdf
smh my head, guys. leftypol has fallen.

>>2699481
Gotta break some eggs…
Pragmatic compromise…
Material conditions…
Dialectics…

Does leftypol still have the attitude of trying to convert every chud? Because threads like this really make this site come off shittier. Dude really said “no one knows how the German economy worked” lol.
>If me is retard then everyone retard

just seconding everyone else here to say plenty of books and documentaries have been made about the economy of the third reich

MEFO bills
national industrialists
economy of conquest and plunder

>>2700426
>>2699367
anon… I…