I thought it was supposed to start yesterday
First for may every American barbarian in the Persian Gulf be sent to its bottom.
>>2699682And may every desalination plant in Saudi and Israel go with them
RADIO ANON ALERTI am also the radio autists guy from when they bombed Fordow. The radio broadcast worsened the past couple of weeks, there is this crazy static I can't deal with it's super annoying. Other ones are fake and weak, can't pick up most MHz.
http://websdr.org/http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/You guys can maybe find some idk
US MILCOM SKYING Freqs (khz):
8992
11175
4724
Maybe some can tap into the antennas at
>picrel You and I in a little toy shop
Buy a bag of balloons with the money we've got
Set them free at the break of dawn
Til one by one, they were gone
Back at base, bugs in the software
Flash a message: something's out there
Floating in the summer sky
As 99 red balloons go by
I feel like a backroom deal has already been struck
>>2699679Did something happen? Why this thread all of a sudden?
>>2699700I guess but long term this shits going to happen, unless they decide china is more important and they attack it next year
>>2699704The entirety of Western history is kicking a can down the road and avoiding whatever your actual problems are
>>2699701>Did something happen? Yes
>Why this thread all of a sudden?It's happening.
<citation: It came to me in a radio wave. Somebody should ask Chagos to get in here
>>2699711I used be into ham radio but i stopped its cool to see you monitor airwaves i should start
>>2699714This your fault you must die shityank
tonights callsign on the HFGCS is: NO CHANCE
>>2699717Someone is poisoning the waves, it went downhill a couple weeks ago. Good luck my dude, help me find freqs where spicy stuff is.
>>2699724Looool
<They are doing another color revolution right before the strikeshttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yj2kzkrj0o >>2699726I wish but
So was Venezuela but then Maduro happened.
>Someone is poisoning the waves
Signal jamming?
>>2699729Yes, but who I don't know.
Also, what do you guys think about
>picrel >>2699688Maybe its natraul when we where listening to 4mhz ×was it night?
Solar activity is high also a cme kill propigation
>>2699734Very possible they used drone smuggling for the 12 day war
>>2699734 in the first 12 day war mossad managed to construct clandestine drone factories inside tehran.
>>2699735What are the worst interefence freq and when where they bad what does the noise sound like
Why now? What happened?
Hearing distorted voices on 11 mhz
>>2699747
KSA are pretending to be against the war so Iran doesn't flatten them
>>2699753Not sure 11mhz is a daytime propagation band and the rx is NL and its night in mauritious
who strikes first will win. and iran won't. so it's ggs
>>2699758Gay bar at near the pentagon is empty
I =REAPEAT GAY BAR EMPTY==
>>2699761US/Israel struck first last time and did major decapitation attack and still they lost.
>>2699766did they? they're both still around. no lasting consequences for them. Iran was majorly destabilized. scientists, political and military leaders were killed. infrastructure destroyed. i don't want the USA/Israel to win either, but let's be realistic.
N.E.H
Trump is not gonna invade and nothing ever happens.
LANCELOT just exited the net.
turn on the news missiles have been launched
LYLE LYLE TURN ON THE TV
Arak soviet status as we speak?
>>2699807>>2699811I just looked it up on yt, theres only an arma gameplay bogus livestream, nothing
>polymarket
why is this gambling shit on thread
kys NOW
Is there anything going on?
>>2699839No
I'm really mad they haven't nuked the shia kafirs, I hate that shia exists, its just false
>>2699837Insider trading on polymarket has happened right before major announcements. It's a good tracker.
>>2699835I wonder if it will do any good sams only seem to get destroyed (partly because all targetd worth shooting are avoiding same networks until missiles and drones destroy them)
And theyre facing so many enemy airplanes
>>2699711>We wuz romans and sheit It's all so tiresome.
>>2699844With internal subversion and treachery in the ranks they could be switched off.
>>2699844Sams don't work when you give your enemy the advantage of preparing weeks in advance, powered by sigint and palantir.
I'm guessing the SAM advantage will be heavily neutralized.
>>2699850I would do do what the serbs did, and not respond to the 1st wave and just keep the capability to sporadically fire missles to challenge america aviation
>>2699847Roman elite also fucked kids so the similarities are there
>>2699856Nothing except that the military call sign is
>NO CHANCE I think we can thank SCOTUS for the delay because trumps ego took a massive hit and he is now trying to patch up the tariff thing.
>>2699688QRD on radiowave autism? I know literally nothing about it, what are you guys even doing
>>2699858they are literally trolling happeninguyghers
>happening? NO CHANCE >>2699864Whou would doing that?
>>2699864the fuck does this mean
>>2699864hm yes i see i understand
>>2699863Look up what WebSDR is.
It's this thing.
>picrelBest one since it has the widest spectrum. And they probably use the whole building as antenna.
>>2699865>>2699866It might be Iran or China trying to jam a USAF comm link. Idk
>>2699866Some body is trying to use radio waves to stop the AF from using that frequency,
1)iran or an ally is trying to stop the airforce from using it
2)maybe for opsec the airforce is jamming it so while they use it from A to B they use jamming from A To C,
So it doesnt get picked
(Not sure about the last one)
Its gone now
>>2699882can you remember how it went down during Midnight Hammer? all i recall is the callsign was NEON GAS.
>>2699891Oh yeah I remember NEON GAS and then a bunch of phonetics
ALPHA BRAVO etc.
STAND BY
>>2699906What if this is all deception.
Do they have gay bars on aircraft carriers?
Can someone access weibo satellites?
>>2699923It could very easily be spoof google does what the pentagon asks
>>2699928I thought militaries did not use phase shift keying
Tomorrow or not 'till next week.
A B2 BOMBER JUST FLEW UNDER MY HOUSE
>>2699960so tommorow then?
How much does this deployment/travel cost in USD?
>>2699983Its free, they can print money and control the economy, economics doesn't really matter in capitalism.
>m…muh..muh gold, c…cuch..cuhhuh.. competitishun No. Nothing costs anything, economics aren't real. If economics are real, debt would be real, the US would've been a third world country.
Theres two reasons nothing is happening:
Nukes are real, not paper tigers, if nukes are used everybody dies and its over.
People are pussies and value their own worthless lives over worldwide revolutions.
SO yeah. fuck stalinism, fuck all of you, you didnt do shit, stupid nationalist conservatives, nazis the lot of you.
>>2699983five gazillion billion monopoly bucks. the moneys fake
It's happening
>>2699989iran doesn't have nukes though. that's why this will happen.
>>2700010Why don't they have nukes? Are they retarded? Even Pakistan has nukes.
>>2700012They made a promise to allah that t hey won't do nuke
>>2700012I think Radio War Nerd said essentially the older figures in the government consider it a point of pride that they don’t have nuclear weapons for moral reasons.
>>2700016And even without nukes having thousands of regular ICBMs is a real deterrent
So far nothing, but everyone is saying war is imminent.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVCuVFcjU6C/It's almost sunrise in Iran, I hope everything will be quiet since I have to go.
Stay fancy fellow leftychuds.
Skyking radio autist signing out.
~Captain Sinbad
p.s. if any of you wonder where I'm from, just look at vidrel from 1996.
>>2700088We need more namefags like you and newsanon, you're useful, all other namefags are useless annoying cretin and grifters.
>>2699679oh boy cant want for all the pro-imperialist posting !!
how do you guys think the war will go
>>2700216USA/Israel will destroy Tehran. Iran will launch one missile (with ample previous warning) at a small USA military base.
>>2700216badly for everyone except israel
>>2700233what is a serious war
>>2700236Like no bullshit head on 100% give it all you've got no holding back.
Complete mobilization and firing all the boom booms you've got.
>>2700238so including a ground invasion? that seems unlikely
>>2700239Whats the point of all of this if theres no ground invasion? Someone has to do it. Or are they hoping that the color revolution will do it for them?
Thought they want another Afghanistan.
>>2700240i don't think the US and certainly not israel are willing to take the necessary casualties. i think it will be mostly an air war with possible ground action between proxies. maybe jewlani will be used idk
WAR WILL ONLY COME IN 7-8 DAYS BECAUSE OF THE TRUMP DEADLINE.
Not because Trump is a man of his word, but because the second carrier is on it's way and needs like a week to reach positions.
>>2700240The west has exactly two plans in every instance.
a) regime change
b) if the above doesn't work, inconvenience them in every way, the pettier the better
>>2700251reminder that 'hmmn lets wait a week for our boots are in position….. :)' is the pinnacle of imperial war power.
Amerikkka = Paper Tigre.
>>2700100And that one china anon who took pictures was good, but he hasn't been on for about a year now, /prc/ general hasn't been the same since he stopped posting
>>2700325He got got by the see see pee
>>2700016I remember a interview betwen Mohammed Marandi and the Greyzone where he explained that the generation that came out of the Iran-Iraq war suffered a lot from weapons of mass destruction like chemical weapons. and so they viewed nukes as evil. Also they didn't want proliferation because if Iran got one then Saudis and Egyptians threatened to get one via Pakistan,
However, they also realised that it was a deterrent. So they came up with the policy of not building a nuke but keeping the technology and enrichment right at the brink so that they could manufacture one very quickly.
>>2700396Well, they haven't manufactured shit.
>>2700415I think since libya/syria they clearly have transitioned to a model of "just completely wreck the country so its no real threat anymore, and we can pick some faction to support to keep it down and infighting" rather than really control/occupy. if the color revolution works great, otherwise just fuck up everything beyond repair
>>2700418?
Iraq and Syria compradors have consolidated thanks to the west (and Iran in the case of Iraq)
US Middle East Envoy suggesting Trump is "curious" as to why Iran has not "capitulated"
Source: Sky News
>>2700516>"Pre-emptive retaliatory strike"amazing
>>2700543>hack out wombs to hide sexual abuseBut mutilated wombs aren't going to create even more questions? How is this supposed to make sense?
>>2700543>NYPIt's a famous rag. US equiv of those papers which are several rungs lower than The Sun.
>>2700543This is almost as bad as when Iraqi soldiers threw the USS Maine out of incubators and into thr Gulf of Tonkin.
>>2700543Crazy how some people actually believe shit like this
>>2700516the retaliatory strike was promised to them thousands of years ago
>>2700543Gaddafi personally handed out viagra kits to black African mercenaries
Set of Kurdish revolutionary parties unite together. This is in response to the character of recent opposition movements, seen as no better or worse than the current state, such as the monarchists and the wider Kurdish Unity discourse in Rojava, Bakuand and Basur.
Five political parties in Eastern Kurdistan have formed a coalition
Today, the five main parties in Eastern Kurdistan, namely the Kurdistan Democratic Party-Iran, the Kurdistan Free Life Party (PJAK), the Kurdistan Work Organization-Iran, the Kurdistan Freedom Party (PAK), and the Kurdistan Workers' Association, announced the 'Coalition of Political Forces of Kurdistan of Iran'. These parties reached an agreement after many discussions and meetings..
A statement was issued after the agreement..
The statement went on to state that Kurdish national political movements in Eastern Kurdistan have been fighting and working for years in an organized and continuous manner against the dictatorial and central government to achieve their national and political rights, and said: "The Iranian regime has always imposed war after coming to power and has executed and murdered hundreds of its political leaders. Thousands of young revolutionaries and political activists have been martyred and murdered in prisons. Kurdistan has been turned into an occupied and militarized geography. It has been carried out with the policy of repression of the Government of the Republic of Iran.".
It was further stated: “We, the political parties, signed the Political Forces Alliance of Kurdistan of Iran to continue the work and struggle for the needs of the country and to respond to the current political situation. We have united our forces and efforts in Kurdistan and announce a political alliance. This alliance was formed after the phase of changing ideas and actions on the ground in the ‘center of dialogue and cooperation’. In order to give more importance to the political work of the Kurds in Iran and the struggle of the political parties against the Republic of Iran. As well as to achieve the rights and freedom of the people of Kurdistan and how to build a new Iran.".
It was further stated: “Our main goal is to struggle for the overthrow of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The realization of the clear right of the Kurds to self-determination and the establishment of a national and democratic structure based on the Kurdish national political will in Eastern Kurdistan. We will support the efforts and protests of all nations in Iran against the Islamic Republic at this stage. Although the establishment of a democratic and comprehensive transformation is protected, the basis of any cooperation and alliance with other parties will be the recognition of the national rights of nations, acceptance of democracy and rejection of any form of dictatorship..
We believe in protecting the environment and social justice, equal rights for women and men, strengthening free elections, ensuring the fundamental rights of all ethnic and religious communities in Kurdistan, and establishing a democratic governance system in Eastern Kurdistan to make that country safe; we see this as our duty..
We believe that political unity, consensus among political parties, and their joint struggle are a prerequisite for strengthening the Kurds' position in Iran's ever-changing political equations. Therefore, we are ready to cooperate with all political parties outside our coalition.".
>>2700601Stalin what are you doing there?!
>>2700601Based and straight.
>>2700601>Our main goal is to struggle for the overthrow of the Islamic Republic of Iran.holy mossad op
Hello fellow leftychuds
Just popping in to see what's up.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/irans-fm-plans-to-meet-witkoff-this-week-claims-good-chance-of-diplomatic-solution/https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn5gk15rr70o
<Nothing spicy ever happens on the radiowaves >:|
>good site better than flight radarhttps://globe.adsbexchange.comI'll reappear later today hopefully. My uncle fell off the boat and I have to look for him.
>>2700625You retard islamist. If you don't want people to revolt and build non-state power stop sidelining and suppressing every minority or different religious sect you can find. Did you really not think of this?
>>2700601>no mention of US meddlingyup, mossad. hope these fuckers get killed
>>2700638>>no mention of US meddlingThat's not what we're talking about, you fucking halfwit.
Araqchi: We are close to a new agreementIranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araqchi announced that a new agreement with Washington is imminent and some aspects of it may be better than the 2015 agreement.
Al-Araqi announced that he is scheduled to meet with US Representative Steve Witkoff in Geneva next Thursday.
Abbas Araqchi emphasized in an interview with the American CBS that diplomacy is "the only way" to resolve Washington's concerns about Iran's nuclear program.
Araqchi said, "We are only talking about the nuclear file now.
Uranium mining is our right and this technology is a source of our pride, so we cannot give it up.
"But maybe we can reach a solution based on the method of measurement."
The Iranian Foreign Minister indicated that they are busy preparing a draft of the agreement and have begun exchanging proposals with the American side.
<Military threats and missiles
Regarding the buildup of American forces in the region, Araqchi spoke as follows:
"There is no need for all this American military display and preparation, it does not scare us."
Iran's Foreign Minister also sent a clear message about his country's missile capabilities, stating:
"Our missiles cannot hit American territory, but we can hit their military bases."
"Our missiles also have the ability to hit targets inside Israel."
Araqchi reiterated that Iran has the right to self-defense if it faces any American attack.
The report of transactions was submitted to the government
On the other hand, the Iranian Presidency announced that Araqchi had presented a detailed report on the process of negotiations to the government and emphasized the continuation of diplomacy based on national interests.
On the other hand, Iranian Defense Minister Aziz Nasirzadeh presented a report on the deployment of US forces at the same meeting and announced that they are "closely monitoring all enemy movements in the region and beyond."
The Iranian Defense Minister emphasized the full readiness of the Iranian armed forces at all levels to face any unforeseen eventuality.
The only reason Iran got powerful in recent years is because the US got rid of its regional rival and replaced it with a friendly puppet regime
The US giveth and the US taketh. Iran shouldn't have relied so much on the graces of the America empire
>>2700645anon… those weapons are belongings of the arak soviet
Joe Rogan shared that he has trouble sleeping, saying it feels like “madness” under President Donald Trump’s administration. The podcaster linked his anxiety to constant political news and the potential for conflict with Iran.
“I’m reading too much of the news and it’s overwhelming me,” Rogan said during a recent episode of “The Joe Rogan Experience.” “Sometimes at night I can’t wind down. There’s too much news, too much madness. We’re about to go to war with Iran,” he added, asking, “How far does this go? What is happening?”
>>2700657It belonging to humanity as a whore
>>2700661Sry, japanese
*Whole
>>2700635ok thanks for the tip moshe
>>2700633hope your uncle's alright
>>2700660Leopards eating face etc.
>>2700675Trump singlehandedly responsible for potential war with Iran. Just like Bush is alone to blame for the Iraq war and no one else. Kissinger for indo-china, etc.
I <3 regurgitating CIA talking points :)
>>2700731>Trump singlehandedly responsible for potential war with IranNot sure what I said that led you to believe this was my point. Rogan endorsed Trump and is now losing sleep over his policies. Classic fell for it again award nonsense.
can they start the damned war already
>>2700858just wait till amerimutts pull out the anti-anti-drone drone
>>2701192why would it be called off, as you can see, the US doesnt even need to mobilize troops to kill mexicans so they're free to bomb Iran too.
>>2701192Why would Israel care about el frijo loco jr getting whacked?
All I want to see before I die is a yankkkee airkkkraft kkkarrier sinking and the pure rage that results
I’m calling it right now, a faction of the IRGC is going to defect. Sociopathic intelligence types do that kind of shit. they’ll work for Communists, Fascists and anyone else.
>>2701423The reformists led by the wannabe Gorbachev have flagrantly been traitors to the Revolution for years, they literally assassinated Raisi in 2024.
>>2701423I'm fairly sure this is why the US is confident enough to launch a military campaign. the ballistic missiles will fail due to sabotage. Look at this the situation in iran is far worse than it was a year ago. People who see no future are more likely to flip sides.
>>2701423I was under the impression that the cohesion and loyalty of the IRGC was the main thing preventing these protests from escalating into a collapse of the government.
Look how nothing is happening
>>2701829Incredibly insightful analysis. More like this!
>>2700858this seems good against geran likes but not against fpvs since they are too small. Unless they figure out a way to effectively counter those than mostly nothingburger. Like what happened to those muzzle attachments? Even recently I saw russians destroying fpvs with their normal ak munition, like how tf dont they a low cost solution for this?
>>2702016>A March 18, 2025 email from the engineering department sent out to all chiefs on the ship said there were 205 [toilet] breakdowns in four days,” the NPR reported.Wtf are they eating lol
todays callsigns are HUMERUS and TAILBONE. I guess we are going with an anatomical theme today.
>>2702030>Wtf are they eating lolhamburgers, fries, big macs, you know the usual amerislop
>>2702030>Wtf are they eating lolt-shirts
>One sewage engineering head complained that the sailors put all sorts of problematic material down the toilets, including t-shirts: “Our sewage system is being mistreated and destroyed by Sailors on a daily basis. My HT's are currently working 19 hours a day right now trying to keep up with the demand.” >>2702108Based Retards/Saboteurs.
>>2702016this is a covert irgc op. they're calling it جنگ چرند
just shit overboard fr. what's the problem?
the military build up is obviously LARP but I wonder… this saber rattling must be rather expensive for the USA, and it's not like the deal with Iran would actually benefit them financially in any way or shape. What do they even get out of this?
>>2702130they are making the military jannies work 19hrs a day
lmao
clean it up janny >>2702147it's not a LARP. and the money is fake.
Israeli hospitals said to be preparing for potential prolonged war with Iran
>The Israeli health system is preparing for an emergency situation in case of a prolonged war with Iran, according to Hebrew news media reports.
>The ministry is considering reducing internal medicine departments, which have hospitalized patients who can be transferred to their homes, so that there will be fewer patients in the hospitals.
>There is also the possibility of the transfer of doctors from the center of the country, where there are more professionals in relation to the size of the population, to hospitals in the periphery.https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israeli-hospitals-said-to-be-preparing-for-potential-prolonged-war-with-iran/>>2702049<Makes sense since Nick Fuentes wants to behead me.Hello again fellow Leftychuds.
I will shortly provide some new tools and news.
Attached is list of frequencies, but you need a good antenna and it depends on region.
>My personal NSA agent says strike will commence Friday or Wednesday. Depending on whether Iran will release the epstein tapes on trump or not. >>2702219why cant they release the damn tapes already ffs.
>>2702248They're waiting for Iran to do it kek.
Nothing's gonna happen. Trump won't risk basically handing over the midterms to the Dems on a silver platter, he and his admin are betting on trying to scare the Iranians based on the previous Venezuela operation so they can get a favourable deal.
>but they moved a lot of stuff
They move stuff a lot even during normal low-tension years. The expenses are nothing for the US of A's military and people are making a mountain out of a molehill on this point.
>>2702266But will he go to the gay bar to through that off? He could always send Theil if Hegseth finds that kind of work "uncomfortable."
>>2702271what are trumps rules for capitalization?
>>2702186>it's not a LARP.What does the USA get out of this war?
>>2702287destabilization. de-development. further isolation and encircling of the PRC.
>>2702278Jackson Hinkle's also writes BOOMER text like that
Random words for EMPHASIS
>>2702278>>2702292It's the old tabloid newspaper style
>>2702246>>CIA and Mossad are doing the color revolution thing againIt seems clear that they were caught off guard with the earlier protests, which were utilized as cover to send in the 1953 style rioters, which were immediately shut down by this (russian?) starlink jamming tech before the carriers could get into position, and now they are waiting to restart the whole thing. I wonder if they are sending more shartlink terminals and planning to destroy the jammers before use. Either way, Iranian counterintelligence has to get its shit together
>>2702278He mostly capitalizes all nouns like in German, although he is not consistent, for example he didn't capitalize decision. I noticed the founding fathers also did that capitalize all nouns thing.
>>2702371Can't people just hang their cheeks over the rail and shit in the ocean?
The problems with the USS Gerald R. Ford's sewage systems have been ongoing for nearly a decade since it was commissioned in 2017, btw.
GOD BLESS AMERICA
Now that my five-week ban for not supporting regime change in Iran has expired, what's the situation?
Why is the US talking about war and what happened to Iranian protests?
shittyankbros…
we now have a new callsign: WALK AWAY
>>2702414>Orange king worried about long term war, the vuvuzela copium is starting to wear off>spooks restarted the protests>Gerald R. Ford has been renamed to the USS Poopenfarten (read posts above as to why)>My source in NSA tells me the invasion will happen Friday or Wednesdaythat's about it
>>2702422What frequency?
>Also, sounds like a warning kekAnd thank you for your service Radioman, Captain Sinbad appreciates you taking over the Skyking role. My head hurt from the static it just got worse these past couple weeks.
I found a plane in Oman with no Call Sign
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=70c730Might be something spooky I hopium.
>>2702423I think it was 8992khz. its ok it kind of addicting i still remember when Midnight Hammer happened and hours later we finally heard on the news. i'll keep an ear open for the next few days.
>>2702430What is interesting here is that the protestors here were saying PJAK slogans, such as ;Women, Life, Freedom', 'Freedom and Equality', 'No Monarchy, No Supreme Leader’ and etc, as opposed to saturday's protest sloganeering which was 'calling for Reza Pahlavi, the exiled son of Iran's toppled shah, to be a new monarch.'.
There were claims that saturdays were not real students also.
Do we have any news on Hezbollah?
I hope the Palestinians get get their revenge.
Israeli elections are in October btw. they might find it necessary to formally declare war on Iran to cancel them beforehand
>>2702446Maybe. Notice how midterms also co-incide. Watch them postpone until september or something.
Also, maybe this is a stretch, but God bless the sailors of the USS Poopenfarten. The more I think about it, the more it seems they are sabotaging the ship so they don't bomb Iran. A modern day Aurora Battlecruiser in the making.
>>2702453If they are serious about confront china they wont go for it
If they are serious about subjegating latin America fully
They wont go for it
Iran is a distraction from those priorties
So if they try to do all 3 a once its over for the American empire
I realized today Israel is facing the same geopolitical dilemma Nazi Germany faced in the years leading up to the war. Unlike the united states, who wants status quo so they can build an oil pipeline between its allies Saudi and Europe through Syria, Israel wants to redraw the borders of the middle east, occupy all the land between the Nile and the Euphrates and break free from American domination to become a self sufficient nuclear regional power. they can only do so by continuing to build its own independent military industrial complex (which bibi pledged to do and america refused out of principle) they're an upstart nation for the most part controlled by the largest imperialist power, it seems inevitable there will be a clash of interests in the long term. like Molotov said WW2 was a class war, but it did not start as one
>>2702442>10 days of waiting bruh
>>2702526Thanky Fren.
Spread it far and wide.
Good night leftychuds.
Stay fancy.
>>2699679Hi everyone, Iranian Voice™ here! My family used to do political "favors" for the Shah but after the revolution those mean Islamists drove my family out and poisoned my grandpa. Now, I have never lived or been to Iran, but as an Iranian Voice™ you should listen to ME when I say bomb them all and instate Israel as the new supreme leader! I know what's best for those stinking kesafat poor- I mean, less privileged peoples. Anyways, Iranian Voice™ OUT!
>>2702651The fucker will strike suddenly, again, and there will be much frustration, again, as Iran perceivably cucks out - while in reality merely avoiding an all-out war and saving lives of millions of it's citizens.
And then Trump turns his gaze to Panama and/or Greenland and/or Canada, again. And then to Mexico and Venezuela and Cuba. And then to Iran, again. And he will do this dance the remainder of his presidency
>>2702712Is that shit? Lol
>>2702735please be joking
>>2702291>somehow this is all about the PRCsure man
>>2702291>>2702857 (me)
like I get that the PRC has an interest in keeping Iran their ally. As a buffer, as a trade ally, as a sort of "proxy" that supplies Russia with weapons while China can stay """neutral""" on the matter, as a state they can also exploit (flood their market with cheap products, buying fishing rights in Iranian waters etc).
But I doubt that China is the main reason they are doing this. Any moves on Iran are obviously well coordinated with the Zionist entity and I think Israel would prefer a weak but intact Islamic Regime so that they can permanently have their black sheep whom they can point onto whenever they massacre more Palestinians/Lesbians🇱🇧.
>>2702857>>2702859China would be very disappointed if the Islamic Republic falls, but they will likely stay neutral and hope to do business with the next government. As for Israel and the US, they do not have the manpower to occupy Iran like they did in Iraq, nor can they weaken Iran like some other third-world country. A Decapitation is more likely and they would probably work with whoever they can(similar to what happened in Syria) From ethnic separatist, Sunni Islamists, and defectors from Artesh and the IRGC. but when they know the mullahs are finished, they will pack up and leave.
>>2702618>Also, the current idea of a “Greater Isreal” is something even the most insane nationalists don’t believe in. <the imperialists have no imperialist ambitionsahahahah ok thanks for clearing that up Mossad
>>2702618Greater Israel is so “fringe” its openly displayed on the Zionist Entity’s shekels
>>2702618>August 2025, Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in an interview with i24NEWS that he was on a "historic and spiritual mission" and that he is "very" attached to the vision of Greater Israel, which includes Palestinian areas and possibly also places that are part of Jordan, Egypt, Syria, and Lebanon.
>Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich has suggested that Israel is destined to expand to include Jordan, and even beyond, to parts of Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt and even Iraq. In a documentary film by Arte in 2024, Smotrich said “it is written that the future of Jerusalem is to expand to Damascus.” This view has support in some parts of Israeli society.
>2024 Daniella Weiss said "We know from the Bible that the real borders of Greater Israel are the Euphrates and the Nile"Actually kill yourself
>>2702867they would be just as disappointed as the EU would be concerned.
>occupy IranIf they do start a war, then I don't think think they plan to occupy Iran.
They have multiple options depending on how the situation unfolds:
1. A fascist strongman like Reza Pahlavi, either as a rival government turning Iran into a failed state and throwing them into a permanent civil war.
2. similar to what you named, kill the mullahs, then do trade with the IRGC whom would be the "next in succession" to take over the regime. It would be more similar to what happened in Venezuela, not like in Syria tho.
3. (most likely to me, if war does break out), they bomb the country into ruins, like Hezbollah or Hamas, then leave them to their own devices and see how badly they fare, with the option of any future interventions/regime change.
But most realistically to me would be that the current negotiations are not only about the nuclear deal but also about Iran giving up its ballistic missiles, essentially neutering what military capabilities the Islamic Regime has built up over the years. And then whenever they act up again, Iran wouldn't have any way to retaliate (aka strike Israel).
Why the negotiations are going on for so long is probably exactly because of the missiles. The USA insists on it, the mullahs have to make the calculations. If they give them up they might have a few years of foreign silence to regroup and try to restore social order, hope people forget about their actions. On the other hand, they will give up their greatest weapon. However if they refuse to give them up, then war might be coming sooner rather than later
>>2702914So the Iranians might just sign a deal and then immediately wipe their asses with it?
>>2702692My friend America barely has the drydocks to maintain its own ships in peacetime. This is why the Maine totenkopf boy campaigned on expanding US docks. One good hit on a carrier would gum up maintenance for the entire fleet
>>2702928>The missiles would be among the most advanced military hardware to be transferred to Iran by China and defy a United Nations weapons embargo that was first imposed in 2006.to me it seems like iran wants peace above all else but is preparing for every scenario
>>2702930>This is why the Maine totenkopf boy campaigned on expanding US docksSource?
>>2702932His campaign website. Not sure if it's still live.
>>2702934So no source then got it
>>2702930Reminder Plattner is by far the most left wing candidate running for national office and has been glowingly endorsed by the CPUSA and DSA, a glimpse into what an American “communist revolution” would look like
>>2702933disinformation. just like how before the last 12 day war remember there was all this talk of trump and netanyahu having a row and disagreeing.
>>2702939Sauce on either endorsement
>>2702941israel declared war on iran expecting american boots on the ground and all trump decided to do was pussy out and do some token bombings that had no 0 effect. its pretty clear trump and bibi are not 100% on the same page or world war three would've started last summer
>>2702926>strongman like Reza PahlaviHe's many things but a strongman isn't one of them, the best option would be some Artesh Army General
>>2702618>PhilistiaMore proof that Palestine is older then Israel. Philistia existed before the Israelites.
>>2702892All of this is worded pretty ambiguously. "Greater Israel" usually means the Gaza and West Bank annexation. Smoltrich and Weiss are principally concerned about West Bank colonization and annexation. Just because they make some unhinged statements to appeal to their ultranationalist constituency doesn't mean they have the ability or even the interest to expand Israel to the Euphrates.
>>2702956>israel actually has no imperialist ambitions beyond their borders actually100 shekels deposited into your account
>>2702948strongman as in the authoritarian way he wants to run the country if you read up his "100days plan" or whatever, not because hes a strong man
>>2702956Least reactionary "anti campists"
>>2702956>dude trust me please please please Israel doesn't want more land I mean ok maybe we annexed a bit of land after we got rid of Assad but that was just a small hit no more we promise dude please please support us ok maybe Naftali Bennett posted some unhinged shit about Turkey being our next enemy after Iran but dude trust us please no more plans for expansion pinky promise :)the only reason I can think of for why the IDF is so tone-deaf is because they're used to being surrounded by yes-men and have no idea how to appeal to any other demographic other than Indians and American Evangelicals
>>2702956The Talmud pretty explicitly lays out that all nations of the world are property of the Jews, which they can seize with impunity because their god promised it to them. You can’t get much more direct than that and frankly if you think the vast majority of Jews don’t want an ethnostate stretching from Sinai to Kuwait at minimum you’re either delusional or an actual Mossad shill
>>2702956Greater Israel is the whole world with them running it
>>2703036Can you stop this "muh joos" schizophrenia and keep it to class analysis without the idpol?
>>2703036when arguing against shit like this do not quote religious texts. instead point to the many instances when netenyahu has presented maps of greater israel to other world leaders as a sincere aspiration. the holy texts of all three abrahamic religions can be cherry picked for outrageous quotes. and the complimentary texts of those religions even more so.
>>2703044especially since original zionists already wanted greater israel despite not actually being religious and not believing all that shit
>>2702926>1. A fascist strongman like Reza PahlaviIf nothing else at least it'll mean PJAK and their related orgs will do numbers with recruitment, especially in the youth.
>>2702932>Source?NTA but his latest long-form interview (outside, on ice) he goes into how he wants to refit and expand the US navy in to smaller boats and to play a defensive role around the country. IDR details because boatfags are piss-boring, was quite long though.
Do anons think the Iraqi state attempting to disarm YBŞ in Sinjar currently is in relation to their relationship with Iran and the Popular Mobilisation Forces? Feels like potentially a case of taking them out as part of the wider campaign against Iran via Pop Mob Forces.
>>2702956>All of this is worded pretty ambiguously. "Greater Israel" usually means the Gaza and West Bank annexation. Smoltrich and Weiss are principally concerned about West Bank colonization and annexation. Just because they make some unhinged statements to appeal to their ultranationalist constituency doesn't mean they have the ability or even the interest to expand Israel to the Euphrates.Thats nice, now will you please show us exactly all the land israel has occupied or depopulated since 7Oct23 alone?
>>2702914I hope this stuff arrives in time for the war.
>>2702973I know what it means, strongman also have specific ruthless personality types which Pahlavi lacks
>>2702973>>2703137Also i doubt the people who are getting killed protesting are going accept a manhatted nepobaby because a bunch la zionist persians said so
>>2703097>>2703027Not him, but the point (I think) he’s making is that “Greater Israel” isn’t going to be some mass annexation plan they'll do all at once. It’s much slower and more methodical. Even in the most extreme Israeli nationalist claims, the actual borders of Greater Israel are mostly limited to the Levant, and they are taking it bit by bit, small annexations and forced displacements every few years. Their plan for the rest of the Middle East is to weaken them, not annex them. Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states are not a threat to Israel, they’re fat clowns who live off bread and circuses and by doing business with them, Israel will own them and that will be that.
>>2702956you must be six years old if you think "from the Euphrates to the Nile" is an ambiguous statement
>>2703137he lacks charisma and hes a incompetent NEET but hes definitely ruthless.. are you serious?? Bro encouraged civilians to run into the meatgrinder and die in protests to give the USA a justification for attacks, told them help is on the way when he has literally no say in this. Then went on us television and said he has good connections into the US and "knows they will intervene" days before trump said "hm well i guess protests died down teehee" and when asked if he was fine with sending protesters into certain death he said "THIS IS WAR, PEOPLE DIE!"
>>2703162saying something across the screen is one thing but he legitimately can't sit at any sort of office, the US would never install him, no one would
>>2703188Khomeini was a respected scholar and one of the top clerics in Iran before the revolution
>>2703197bro was one of the top clerics but calling him a "scholar" is insane. He was only called ayatollah by other clerics so the shah wouldn't execute him, not necessarily out of merit. The reason he became the leader was pure charisma, his face always looked serious as if he knew what he was doing. Only during the Iran-Iraq war did people realize that he did in fact not know what he was doing
>>2703249>he did in fact not know what he was doingKhuzestan status?
>>2703249lol people were probably discussing all the 5D chess moves khomeini was doing.
>>2703250he sent people into the battlefield with nothing but a key and told them they'd go to jahannam just to clear Iraqi minefields. If he was as smart as people made him out to be, he should have stopped the war after he had retaliated the Iraqi offensive and recaptured Iranian territory. Instead he thought he could actually win against the entire world all on his own. He used his people and let them run into the meat grinder, similar to how Reza Pahlavi now encourages civilians to run into the meat grinder
>>2703260How many wars has your white western ass fought in? How many soldiers have you commanded?
>>2703265why are you even defending Khomeini? His family were landowners, as were most clerics. His protest against the shah started because of landreforms targetting the rich landowners. you're like one of those retarded americans that thinks he needs to choose between moloch and baal
>>2703027They are not even capable of swallowing the West Bank or Gaza whole, and the Israelis took the Golan Heights out of sheer opportunism when Assad fell. They aren't doing any major conquests soon. If they do, I will be the first to post in one of these threads admitting I am wrong.
>Naftali Bennett posted some unhinged shit about Turkey being our next enemy after IranHow is that wrong. Turkey and Iran are two other regional powers which are antagonistic toward Israel. All of these people believe crazy nationalist shit, but that doesn't make them all irrational actors.
>>2703097>Thats nice, now will you please show us exactly all the land israel has occupied or depopulated since 7Oct23 alone?Gaza and rump pieces of the Golan. Tighter control over the West Bank. Where the fuck is the sweeping military conquest. Israel had already de facto controlled the West Bank and controlled Gaza indirectly through blockade.
>>2702966>>2703019Seethe
>>2703036>>2703040As the other says, best to keep schizo stuff to yourself. At least some others are offering me some arguments. To humor you, though, do you realize no Jew besides the ultrareligious read the Talmud? Why would any Jew follow the agenda of a very obtuse legal work that they have never read? And almost all of the quotes that circulate about the Talmud on the internet are fake and heavily distorted antisemitic nonsense and are mostly peddled on right-wing boards like /pol/ or islamist forums.
>>2703054The original Zionists wanted a lot of things. You can't just cherrypick some of their beliefs and assume that one of them was the "true" belief which was the end-stage of Zionism. This is some type of genetic fallacy / fallacy of origin. For example, Hertzl wanted a secular state, but the Israeli state is increasingly religious today. He likely wanted German as the main language of the Jewish state, but we got a Hebrew-speaking one.
>>2703329Also, I don't care for Israel. I just think the Greater Israel nonsense shouldn't be taken seriously. It is good propaganda against Israel, and it is also used as propaganda by ultrazionists themselves for their own electoral constituency. If you actually take it at face value, you are a retard though.
>>2703331I don't deny as well that Israel is capable of slicing off pieces of Jordan/Lebanon/Syria if the opportunity arose. But, again, this isn't some Greater Israel.
To give another example, think about Orban in Hungary, and how he pines for. a Greater Hungary that incorporates regions lost after WWI (Transylvania, and parts of Slovakia, Serbia). Same goes for unhinged Turks who want a neo-Ottoman Empire. Within any country there is always some fraction of ultranationalists who will want to fulfill some dream of a maximalist version of their country. Rarely do such dreams ever get fulfilled.
>>2703154Herzl also initially speculated that a Jewish homeland could be made in Uganda or Argentina. Doesn't mean it ended up there. He also was a staunch secularist and didn't practice Judaism, so why would he care about a biblical statement? And it's also belied by the fact that he was very willing to negotiate with Ottoman authorities to receive a charter in Palestine. However, Herzl definitely was aware that gaining Palestine did indeed mean removing or displacing the native Palestinian population.
>>2703145Yep, this is what I meant essentially. Israel can do atrocious shit but within bounds. Swallowing Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, and Iraq is not feasible nor even possible without massive international repurcussions. The Israelis already have a massive headache ethnically cleansing their current "homeland" of Palestinian Arabs, what makes these people think they are going to want to rule tens of millions more? You can't have an ethnostate and a multiterritory empire at the same time.
The point of Greater Israel copium is that people want to believe Israel will wake up and invade their own allies Jordan and Egypt, which Israel knows are necessary allies for Israel to exist at this point, for no reason other than to force them against their wishes to destroy Israel and help Palestinians.
>>2703343I mean these jiggas did bomb qatar pretty derange
>>2702892Yeah i used to think greater israel was some smokol tier bulshit but now i know a lot of powerful people surport
>>2703354is addressing reality a defense of israeli imperialism?
>>2703343>The point of Greater Israel copium is that people want to believe Israel will wake up and invade their own allies Jordan and EgyptYou know they would if they could.
>Tokyo says that a Japanese national has been detained in Tehran and that it has “strongly demanded” Iranian authorities swiftly release the person.
>Speaking at a daily briefing, Japan’s Deputy Chief Cabinet Secretary Masanao Ozaki says the person was detained on January 20 but gives no further details.
hey guys, i'm here for my daily dose of nothing happening. how much nothing has happened so far?
>>2703492>how much nothing has happened so far?3
If Iran is destroyed because the Supreme Leader said nukes are icky that's a big fat W for great man theory.
>>2703442What's the Japanese CIA? Because that's definitely an operative of them.
>>2703394Yeah but they aren't going to do it now(or even this decade) they aren't some Mongol conquerors like the Nazis were, they are much methodical and that's what makes them dangerous
>>2703578yeah we've all heard the lost japanese tourist routine a thousand times
>>2702339the yank in his natural habbit I see: a sea of shit
death to amerikkka
death to the left-imperialist lackeys of merikka
>>2699714i am here
>>2699753no. there are many left-imperialist impersonators trying to defend their shit empire. if there is no tripcode, it is not me.
>>2704009all a big show for you amerikkkan faggot. your rapist army will go and shit up another country and it's all jokes to you.
>>2703343They've invaded Egypt in the past, they're only 'necessary allies' as long as Lebanon and Gaza/WestBank haven't been tamed yet. It makes perfect sense that they'll do it again one day based on the fascist logic that keep Israel united. The settler fascists openly talk about Greater Israel
>>2704009Chudjak actually looks pretty nice here
>>2704435I said this before but this is what I hate about every single leftist space, every conflict is treated like Vietnam or WW2. In these spaces there’s no discussion of the evolution of military strategy, individual Generals and their tactics and parameters. Instead, it’s just assumed that Israel will follow the same decisions as Nazi Germany in 41. Unlike the Nazis, they aren’t against the clock facing the entire world, they’ve got much of the world embedded in their systems. They will likely plan to take chunks of Egypt, Jordan, and Lebanon slowly, maybe 10 months from now or maybe 10 years, but it’s a much more sustainable plan and that’s what makes it dangerous.
Apparently airplane lines have started cancelling flights to Tel Aviv starting from the first of March.
>>2704435>They've invaded Egypt in the past, they're only 'necessary allies' as long as Lebanon and Gaza/WestBank haven't been tamed yet.One of the foundational deals that structures the middle east today is the one brokered between Egypt and Israel in the 1970s. Israel invaded Egypt so long as Egypt did not accept Israel's sovereignty. Sinai was invaded and occupied as a bargaining chip until a deal was reached. When it was reached in 1979, they basically have been unofficial allies.
>It makes perfect sense that they'll do it again one day based on the fascist logic that keep Israel united.There is literally no logic to holding the Sinai desert, which is full of nomads and bandits and pretty much economically useless outside of being able to threaten the Suez canal. The Sinai will always be a useful buffer zone dividing Israel from Egypt's 120 million strong population, because any troop movements through a barren desert are easy to annihilate by air and detect on satellite imaging.
>>2704660>The settler fascists openly talk about Greater IsraelThe problem is your conflating settlers with the Israeli state or the Israeli military. The settlers are the most unhinged element of the zionist coalition. They are just one element in the rightist Zionist coalition that has dominated Israeli politics, though they are gaining power as evidenced by the prominence of Smoltrich and Ben Gvir in the current Israeli cabinet. The Israeli military and security state has not been captured by the ultras yet, but the way thing are going it is bound to happen eventually.
>>2704660Israel would trash any agreement when it suits them. The 'logic' is simply that they will need another threat to unite them after the current threats are gone, and that these neighboring countries will be filled with Palestinian refugees, some of whom will continue to form resistance movements. There is no way for them to guarantee long term security without eventually threatening the people in those countries, because they will not accept anything besides regional primacy.
>>2704672The extremist ideas will not remain limited to the extremists of Israel for as long as their society is based on apartheid. It is simple to combine security through expansion with this messianic religious crap. The people who used to call themselves liberal zionists are either leaving for good or becoming extreme themselves. Future Israel will be nothing but a military colony with the most fanatical ideology
https://www.csis.org/analysis/us-military-middle-east-numbers-behind-trumps-threats-against-iran
>The force is capable of punitive strikes on Iran and protection of U.S. allies and partners in the region. However, it lacks Marines, special operations forces (SOF) for raids or ground operations, and the logistics for an extended air campaign.…
<The current force level is comparable to that used in Operation Desert Fox, which entailed four days of long-range punitive strikes. … The large number of cargo aircraft (C-17s and C-5Ms) and tankers (KC-135s and KC-46As) moving to the Middle East does not indicate any deployment of ground forces.
>… U.S. forces lack special operations and ground units needed to conduct raids or operations ashore.
<… The available forces are also insufficient for regime change beyond limited targeted strikes. …
>Finally, there are not enough forces for an extended, multi-week air campaign. That would require a substantial logistical buildup, which is possible but would take additional time. … >>2704660>because any troop movements through a barren desert are easy to annihilate by air and detect on satellite imaging.i doubt egypt even has the capability of doing that
The USA and Israeli zionist settler states must be completely gutted, and reduced to ash. Anyone who disagrees, while lurking in leftist spaces; is uneducated, or a mossad agent / fed. death to white power and zionism
>>2704908the most rabid and unhinged settlers aren't haredim but a type of jew called dati
>>2704435>based on the fascist logic Germany and Japan did not declare war against their entire area for no reason, just because of "fascist logic". Quickly waging war on all of their neighbors was the only semi-realistic way of achieving Pax Germanica or Pax Japonica.
It was determined all the way back in the Schlieffen Plan, devised around a decade before even the First World War, far before the Enabling Act, that Germany could not hope to wage a war against regional powers like Russia on a protracted basis. Germany would get annihilated if they had to fight a prepared Britain, Russia, or France. They had to quickly subdue as much as possible while their defenses were down in order to have a chance. Hitler was only applying this strategy: there was no way Hitler would win if all of Europe was armed and ready, so he must wage war on everyone to land that quick blow and force a quick surrender.
Same with Japan in the Pacific War. Imagine if Japan first invaded Indochina, and only afterwards invaded Malaysia, and then only afterwards eyed war with the US over the Philippines. Every western colony at that point would become an armed fortress in preparation for attack, impossible for Japan to seize. They needed to wage on everyone in order to catch them unprepared, only then could they wage a war of basically only playing defense and hoping the Allies give up on their colonies.
Now compare this to Israel: Is Israel attempting to create Pax Iudaea? No, they are a component part of the Pax Americana, and they have no delusions about this. They do not feel the need to upend the global order, because the global order is already in their benefit.
Are they in a position to where they need their wars to be quick or else face the brunt of a far superior military? No, they basically choose when to occupy more Lebanese or Syrian territory on a whim. For the far foreseeable future, Egypt and Jordan are allies in the region, who aid the Zionist project. Israel is not going just go insane and attack them just because.
>>2704926>Now compare this to Israel: Is Israel attempting to create Pax Iudaea? No, they are a component part of the Pax Americana, and they have no delusions about this. They do not feel the need to upend the global order, because the global order is already in their benefit.I disagree with the former statement, but the latter is pretty accurate. The current order is ideal for them, none of their neighbors can challenge them and with Iran out of the way, they'll remain the toughest kid on the block without any issue.
>>2704953>The current order is ideal for them, none of their neighbors can challenge them and with Iran out of the way, they'll remain the toughest kid on the block without any issue.That is all dependent on the US giving them constantly money and military aid. Without US and even with their nukes they would be picked apart over the years. Israel isn't really economically viable nation now. If they have to 2x or 3x their military and/or internal security they would go bankrupt pretty quickly.
The united front of 5 parties in Eastern Kurdistan responded to Reza Pahlavi's threats
On February 22, five Kurdish political parties in Eastern Kurdistan, including the Kurdistan Free Life Party (PJAK), the Kurdistan Freedom Party (PAK), the Kurdistan Democratic Party-Iran, the Kurdistan Labor Organization-Iran, and the Kurdistan Workers' Association, formed a political alliance and a common program for future work in Iran. The five parties formed a united political front under the name 'Coalition of Political Forces of Kurdistan in Iran'.
The Alliance of Political Forces of Kurdistan in Iran issued a statement yesterday regarding the opposition and attack by the son of the former Shah of Iran, Shah Ismail Reza Pahlavi, on the alliance of Kurdish parties.
The statement is as follows:
"The rights-seeking society of Kurdistan!"
Freedom-loving people of Iran!
After the announcement of the 'Alliance of Political Forces of Iranian Kurdistan', a wave of joy, enthusiasm and excitement swept over the revolutionaries, the Kurdish people, the oppressed nations and freedom-seekers of Iran. The announcement of this alliance caused a wide resonance among the political forces, Iranian workers and international political centers. On the other hand, the regime of the Islamic Republic and a group of opponents of the rights of oppressed nations and the freedom of democrats who hide under the guise of opposition, showed an emotional and hateful reaction that was expected.
In the continuation of these antagonisms, on Wednesday (February 25), Reza Pahlavi, by publishing a post on the digital media X that contained provocative literature and baseless accusations, subjected the great Kurdish nation and the struggling political parties of Kurdistan to an onslaught of complaints and insults. He demonstrated the 'Separatism' of Gopal Hloli and threatened that after the collapse of the Islamic Republic, he would use the army to suppress the rights movements of the Kurdish nation.
It seems that Reza Pahlavi has forgotten the historical fact that whenever there was a real will to divide Iran, no one took permission from his crowned father and grandfather and broke their dust. Just as they did not hesitate to give up Lesser Ararat, Bahrain and the sources of the Hirmand River, they did not hesitate to sell or hand over various parts of Iranian territory. In fact, only where
or able to show themselves, has become a field of massacre of civilians and suppression of freedom-seeking democracy for the Iranian people, especially the oppressed nations of this country.
His constant threats to ‘use the army against the political aspirations of the Iranian people’ also reveal the fact that in his future Iran, the civil and democratic aspirations set out in the UN Declaration of Human Rights will remain secure and military. There is no fundamental difference between his ideal political regime and the oppressive regimes of Iran past and present. Furthermore, why do they think that the people oppressed by the dictatorship of the Islamic Republic will be willing to submit to him and his like-minded people as part of an alternative for the future Iran?
He clearly has no knowledge of history or geography, and no real understanding of the present day. Otherwise, he would have known that the army has always been the source of all the government's tools of oppression and has been a support for the terrorist army of the 'Guards'.
It has never been far from Kurdistan in the past century. There is no mechanism of oppression and oppression that has not been tried and failed in Kurdistan.
Reza Pahlavi's dagger against the Kurdish freedom movement comes at a time when, as all freedom fighters know, Pahlavi played an undeniable role in the division of the Jina (Women, Life, Freedom) movement. Everyone also knows that Pahlavi, with the help of suspicious groups around him, played an undeniable role in creating a divide between the people and the regime's opponents. Friends and enemies know that the Kurdish nation and the struggling political parties, throughout the oppressive life of the Islamic Republic, have always opposed Khomeini's tyranny and have always been the true supporter of the freedom-seekers of the Iranian nations.
They have paid a heavy price in their struggle against this oppressive regime, but this person accuses Kurdish parties of collaborating with Khomeini. This accusation comes at a time when Kurdistan is being targeted by attacks from land and air. Reza Pahlavi himself has repeatedly said that he wrote a letter to Khomeini and asked him to join his forces as an ordinary pilot.
It is interesting that someone with such a shameful past accuses the parties of Kurdistan of collaborating with Khomeini. At the same time, he makes false promises to the protesters about the existence of thousands of Starlink devices for the internet and access to foreign aid. He has lured thousands of our freedom seekers into the trap of the Islamic Republic regime. Of course, after the freedom of Iran and the trial of the traitorous government officials and murderers, he will also respond to these types of betrayals.
The Alliance of Kurdish Political Forces in Iran, despite condemning such statements by Reza Pahlavi, insists on its fundamental position of protecting the goals of the Kurdish nation and the legitimate rights of the oppressed nations of Iran. These hostile messages will ultimately not achieve any goal. On the contrary, they will strengthen the will of the freedom-loving nations and the fighters of Iran to achieve the freedom-loving goals of the people. Therefore, we once again call on all Kurdish forces that want freedom, protect their rights and nationhood to join the Alliance of Kurdish Political Forces in Iran.
The USCG Ford has left Crete and is on its way to Israel's coast
>>2705377>It objectively has a vastly superior military structure and culture compared to many Arab nations.While it's true that they have a well equipped army and intelligence. The idea of this is much greater asset than any real world capability that Israel has. That's why Israel and IDF are such vindictive little shits. They care above all about maintaining the idea that they see everything, they can reach anybody and can destroy anything or anybody and will do it and will go above and beyond in retribution that anybody else would see necessary. They know that the relative tech gap with the surrounding arab states has narrowed of what it was in the 60s and while the leaders are paid off or scared of the US, that the populations of these countries want the zionist entity gone as much as ever. The worst thing they can have is to look weak, soft and worst of all have blood in the water. The humiliation of 12 day war to Israel's air defense did as much or more damage to Israel's defense as did the actual missile hits.
They can't have anybody think that Israel can be actually made to bleed. It's not even the risk of a another united arab army coming across the border with tanks, it's the risk that things like drone and missile strikes coming from everywhere become a commonplace and making the cost of sustaining Israeli society and economy impossible. With US and the west at it's corner they can absorb some pain, but not alone.
>>2705377well yeah, thats why a settler state is a better forward base for imperialism than a comprador state and why the west like them so much : no risk of turn around/revolution, the state simply cant exist without the backing of the west and a super militarized society, and the population is all in for its defense because they fear the repercussion of their genocidal settler behavior if they ever falter
>>2705738I'd actually argue that the tech gap between Israel and their adversaries is larger than in the past. In the Yom Kippur War for example Egypt had modern Soviet equipment that was at least as advanced as anything the Israelis were fielding, sometimes even more so. Egyptian SAM batteries provided by the USSR effectively grounded the Israeli air force and very nearly led to their defeat. Things only turned around because the Egyptians both ran out of missiles and advanced too far ahead of their SAM umbrella. The Syrians performed like dogshit in that war though so idk what their issue was.
>>2705738>They know that the relative tech gap with the surrounding arab states has narrowed of what it was in the 60shas it?
>>2705738>>2705783I don't think you understand what I mean. Military culture is a very complicated thing. It's not racial, but it is a cultural nebulous phenomenon that exists. I'm from Pakistan, and Pakistan despite its many issues, has a functional military culture. Jordan also has a functional military culture. This is a well-documented phenomenon and pretending it doesn't exist helps no one.
https://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/11219>The real cause of Arab military incompetence is the same as the cause of any military incompetence at any point in history - doctrinal misalignment. Every conflict is to some degree asymmetrical, and it takes a rare mix of experience, sobriety, and ingenuity to come up with the right approach for your situation. Against Israel, Egypt had an immense demographic advantage but a great inferiority in human capital and financial resources per capita. It didn't try to build an infantry-based force specializing in close quarters, but instead imported huge amounts of heavy equipment its population never had a hope of operating, even after drafting an unprecedented share of the college educated population. Against Iran, Iraq had a short-term advantage in almost every category in 1980, plus the complete element of surprise. Despite this, their operational plan called for artillery bombardment in the face of ridiculously small resistance, giving the Iranians time to reinforce.>When Arab forces don't suffer from doctrinal misalignment - as was the case with the Houthis, ISIL, and Hezbollah - they've shown themselves to be capable of impressive victories in both guerrilla and conventional warfare.>Why, then, are Arab armies so frequently misaligned? For the same reason that virtually all post-colonial armies are: they weren't built to operate alone. The Iraqi army got its start as a security force for RAF bases in the country. No colonizer wants its dependencies to have independent military capability - the colonial force must always need support from the homeland to operate. After independence, countless post-colonial states entered into wars thinking they could do alone what they previously could only do with British or French support. It's no surprise that whenever a post-colonial state enters a war with its former colonizer - as was the case with the Chadian-French alliance in the 1980s - the local forces do just fine. They do what they're good at and leave the rest to the foreigners.>Why haven't Arab forces fixed these deficiencies after all these years? To some extent they have, but they have a long way to go because collective, codified experience (really all 'doctrine' is) takes time to refine. Modern war is not simple and can't be distilled down to a few principles. It took China a century and Japan half a century to build first rate forces. If it took independent countries that long, why should it be any shorter for armies who were once restricted to auxiliary roles? >>2705912>doctrinal misalignmentmmmh, I dunno, it certainly play an important role for an untested army in the first months of a war, but its the kind of thing that get fixed relatively quickly when you're under fire and facing catastrophe (as seen for example in the first and second world war)
>great inferiority in human capital and financial resources per capita. It didn't try to build an infantry-based force specializing in close quarters, but instead imported huge amounts of heavy equipment its population never had a hope of operatingyeah im not sure how serious this is, operating armor and artillery isnt THAT hard, and radars/air/AD isnt that numerous that you need a supereducated population.
Has Tehran fallen yet?
>>2706068>operating armor and artillery isnt THAT hardThat’s not the issue. The issue is people outright only promoting people from your own clan or related clans while actively undermining rival clans. And that’s just at the intra-clan level. If you look along ethnic and religious lines, it becomes even more extreme. In Assad’s Syria 90% of the top ranking officers were from a series of closely related Alawite villages. The same thing happened in Iraq, the entire civil and military leadership was from Saddam’s village.
>>2706072The Gerald Ford left Crete 10 hours ago, it will likely arrive in the Persian Gulf in 2–3 days from now
>>2706101The USS Shithole has finished crapping in Crete, now prepared to shart up the whole Mediterranean
>>2706101I doubt they will send it that far
The gulf is too small and they had the carriers hella far away from yemen during the houthi war, as much as pro war retards like pretend these carriers are unsinkable they werent getting close in to risk it
There is no way that there will be boots on the ground right? That would be like the American equivalent of the USSR invading Afghanistan
>>2706185They haven't brought any ground or landing forces so it would be impossible to do that with the current forces in the region. More likely (assuming this isn't a fizzle) they're going to carry out a bombing campaign in support of some glowed up "uprising" like they did in Libya.
>>2706168rolling for carriers getting sunk
>>2706121>>2706152>>2706161The Deathship had a minor technical delay, I guess America is defeated
>>2706185>>2706196It’s literally not possible. The US doesn’t have the troops for that. It took the US at a time when patriotism was at an all-time high, along with the UK and various other NATO forces to occupy Iraq. Even within those parameters, holding Iran would be difficult and The US doesn’t have those same advantages today. Recruitment is at an all-time low, they don't have NATO backing. While it does have the capability to take Tehran and other key targets, that’s about it. More likely they'll end up supporting multiple rebel factions at once, even ones that are at odds with each other.
>>2706185if they do put boots on the ground itll be for a quick in n out operation like in venezuela
>>2706168Surely the US wouldn't pull the same tactic they did in June last year? Pretend to extend talks and then attack before the next round?
> what do we want?
< WW3!
> when do we want it?
< now!
>>2706254you retards are as bad as the "nothing ever happens" guys, shit is constantly happening but this won't start WW3
>>2706257i want ww3, NOW! no more waiting!
When I was a youngin' the left said GWB was gonna bomb Iran and cancel the elections, the left is saying the same about Trump, the spirit of McCain is watching, some of those neocons old farts have been wanting this since the 80s, Iran is only gonna get stronger if China/Russia gives them weapons, it's time to shit or get off the pot baby.
>>2706266Whether they win or lose, I believe this will be the US's final swamp, a entanglement that will definitively end the liberal world order it has built. Without that order, it will lose its relevance and power.
>>2706263Where's the "If I still have to go to work tomorrow, it's not happening" poster?
>>2706185everything I've seen says that the best they can do with the current forces is a couple of days of sustained strikes. I guess the hope amongst the pro-war is that whatever escalation Iran engages in arouses the bloodthirst of the US public and spirals us into all out war?
>>2706322Either that or this really is a fizzle and they were just hoping to intimidate Iran into accepting some lopsided deal.
>>2706325>Venezuela>Denmark>Cuba>IranConsidering how much Trump is going from threat to threat, I think it's safe to say he's serious, and wants a war. Probably to boost his ratings.
>>2706325No way Trump just wasted however many billions it is to move this much equipment just for a bluff
>>2706334If they wanted a real war though then we'd at least expect them to prepare properly for it.
>>2706335And if you don't have the patience to progress
https://www.hackedfreegames.com/game/3195/oiligarchyits an authentic bunkerchan experience like checkers that criticizes and predicts this repeating moment in US imperialism
>>2706339I mean these people showed they were overconfident in the lead up to Iraq, right? So they might honestly believe that they just cave after a few bombs?
>>2706312he should show up eventually, i'm just tired of waiting for these wars to start, if they start, they should start NOW on MY demands for them
>>2706397I wouldn't say they were overconfident when it came to Iraq, as far as their military preparations went. I'd say they were very thoroughly prepared, which is why they successfully occupied the country in two weeks. Where they were mistaken was in thinking that they could build a stable, pro-Western government afterwards.
Should I support Pakistan in the prole genocide since they're Iranian ally or Afghanistan since they're Islamists? I <3 geoslop from my safe 2 story house in LA
>>2706651Except Iranian government isn't really unpopular. Especially compared to western liberal "democracies" where 30% approval rating after two months after elections is the new normal.
>>2706649given your tone, I bet you will inevitably follow whatever the US does and whine about the same guys as the state dpt while making purity accusations at whoever try to understand whats happening
>>2706660I don't know if you've noticed but the sanctions on Iran were so effective that their currency became worthless and the economy collapsed. It's another Syria situation where the people were fine with the government but under conditions of economic siege will finally break in exchange for relief.
>>2706660I don't see westard regimes being forced to impose an internet blackout and massacring their citizens in the thousands biennially
>>2706673Internet blackouts in the West are by now a norm. Thousands massacred is a lie, btw.
>>2706649No! Only support the Arak Soviet! All glory to Arak Soviet comrade. With your gracious support, we will be able to graffiti one (1) more wall.
>>2706677Why the Ayatollah lie doe?
He must be da mossad
The problem with overthrowing Shia Islamists is that they already serve US interests in Iraq and Lebanon. They just have to offer the US more concessions in Iran like what is happening right now.
>>2706687>The problem with overthrowing Shia Islamists is that they already serve US interests in Iraq and Lebanondelusional, clearly glowie take
>>2699679The phony “tensions” between the U$ and the Controlled Opposition Shia Islamist Theocratic Fascist Comprador Bourgeois Capitalist Crypto-U$/Zionist Puppet State “Islamic Republic of Iran”
are an Inter-Bourgeois Kabuki Theatre Nothingburger, that will either result in a last minute “Nuclear Deal” to end the imaginary/fake “Nuclear Program” or a choreographed Kabuki theatre U$ Airstrike on empty fake “Nuclear facilities” in Iran followed by an equally choreographed Kabuki Theatre Iranian “retaliation” against an empty building with all Obsolete Iranian Scuds shot down, 😂🤣🤢🤮!
>>2700601Based Kurds, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
Finally, I can’t wait for a Maoist PPW to overthrow the Controlled Opposition Shia Islamist Theocratic Fascist Comprador Bourgeois Capitalist Crypto-U$/Zionist Puppet State “Islamic Republic of Iran” and create a Persian SSR that will include all the ethnic Persian majority regions of Iran, Afghanistan, and Tajikistan, while granting Self-Determination/National Liberation to the Oppressed Nations of South Azerbaijan, Kurdistan, Arabistan, and Balochistan in their own Azeri SSR, Kurdish SSR, Arab SFSR, and Baloch SSR, respectively, that will all join the future Global USSR which will be created after the inevitable World War III between the U$ and China escalates into a Global Nuclear War that will destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, thus allowing for a World Maoist PPW (in both the Periphery/Semi-Periphery where Maoist PPW is already viable in the Material Conditions, as proven by the ongoing Maoist PPWs in India, the Philippines, Turkey, and Peru, and in the Imperial Core, where Maoist PPW wont be viable in the Material Conditions until World War III breaks out and/or Liberal Bourgeois Democracy is permanently suspended, with these two events being related and probably happening around the same time) to create a Global USSR (all of the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR are shown in the first map I posted, while the second map I posted specifically shows all the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR in West Asia) that will place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2706680You do know that includes their armed forces right?
CHINA CALL ITS CITIZENS TO LEAVE IRAN
IT'S HAPPENING
>>2706738Every dead IRGCuck is a working class victory
>>2706340>2008Damn you're right. The more things change the more they stay the same.
>>2706335>>2706340Damn this brings back memories, used to play this in high school
>>2706673because Western regimes aren't threatened by US invasion, they're already puppet states
>>2706696It's the ICP position and I agree with it as a communist living in the region :)
>>2706767Every dead IRGCuck brings us closer to world revolution
>>2706872>Every dead IRGCuck brings us closer to world revolutionWhy do you want another syria? The ultimate cuck state. Die for Israel faggot.
>>2706897there can be no socialist or anti-imperialist movement insofar as there is an islamic republic of iran
Okay, why is Pakistan at war with Afghanistan
>>2706916they are already anti imperialist by virtue of being under attack of imperialism you retard
>>2706897Syria is a Russian-Iranian multipoltard islamshit state
Thanks for agree w me :)
>>2706897Name one (1) difference between Iran-backed Iraq and soon to be Iran-backed Syria.
>Die for IsraelBut I'm not dying for US cumrag that is Islamist Iran?
>>2706936>war with the us = anti-imperialismin no meaningful sense is the iranian government opposing imperialism nor seeks to do so
>>2706931pakistani taliban is hq'd in afghanistan and has been escalating attacks. at the same time afghanistan has been talking more with india lately and now pakistani media/government claim india is directing the attacks on pakistan
>>2705912> Jordan also has a functional military culture.proof?
Britain withdraws diplomats from Iran
There’s already a backroom deal, all the moves are hard negotiating tactics and pleasing donors
>>2707154billions of dollars wasted on a bluff
>>2707104It has been well documented that they were basically the only Army the Israelis were afraid of, because they were not barely trained conscripts with poor intelligence, they were professional, disciplined soldiers. The most significant losses Israel suffered in the 1948 war were against the Jordanian army.
https://warhistory.org/es/%40msw/article/jordanian-military-effectiveness-in-the-war-of-israeli-independence?utm_source=chatgpt.com >>2707158Billions of dollars are wasted on less
The Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, through its Consular Affairs and in cooperation with Chinese Embassies and Consulates in Iran, announced that Chinese citizens should not travel to Iran in the current security situation.
The ministry announced that Chinese citizens currently in Iran should take personal safety precautions and leave Iran as soon as possible.
The warning comes at a time when the United States (US) has strengthened its military presence in the region and signaled a possible military strike to pressure Iran to abandon its nuclear and missile programs and reduce the influence of its regional allies, especially in the Gulf region.
On the other hand, Tehran accused Washington and Tel Aviv of creating excuses for intervention and regime change and warned that it would respond to any military attack.
>>2707068>war against the primary imperial power attacking you isnt anti imperialist or even opposing imperialismdo you even read yourself? you're braindead
>>2707130glowie, we always have an uptick in actual glowies just before happenings
>>2707162Too bad Jordan is the most cucked Arab country.
>>2704913Noooo the based antiimperialist US military will take down the reactionary mooslims and liberate Iran's oil industry! Hundreds of thousands must die to remove the hijab! We must have ethnic war in a balkanized Iran to free the people!
>>2705738>They know that the relative tech gap with the surrounding arab states has narrowed of what it was in the 60s I don't think this is accurate, the tech gap has increased since the 1960s. Israel then was a lower tech place and used a lot of French and British equipment vs. Arab armies supplied by the Soviet Union.
>The worst thing they can have is to look weak, soft and worst of all have blood in the water. I agree with that.
>The humiliation of 12 day war to Israel's air defense did as much or more damage to Israel's defense as did the actual missile hits. I think you're mistaken about that. Like if we're talking about their own subjectivity (which is important), the Israelis are quite proud of their 12-day war with Iran, and don't perceive that they came out of worse from it. They think they degraded Iran's nuclear and missile program while their attacks also had a destabilizing effect on Iran, while far fewer Israelis died than they anticipated going in (they expected hundreds dead from a full-scale Iranian retaliation at least according to their think tanks). The Hamas attack on Israel in October 2023 on the other hand was humiliating while also being low tech. Also the caveat I'd add is that Israel didn't do anything to Iran which Iran can't bounce back from. Israel killed numerous Iranian commanders in the war, but Iran replaced them with new guys who are experienced veterans.
>>2706068>yeah im not sure how serious this is, operating armor and artillery isnt THAT hard, and radars/air/AD isnt that numerous that you need a supereducated population.Eh, sort of. A lot of soldiers are mouthbreathing idiots. Like most of 'em really. It's more about the overall structure of the military as an interconnected system of mouthbreathing idiots, and how it works at scale, with expectations about how things should work, and what is expected to happen when people don't do their jobs, according to the plan. But even more important is what happens when that system encounters the enemy and things DON'T go according to plan, because warfare has an inherently disruptive effect on your own system. It's an inherently risky enterprise with a lot of unknowns and confusion. Also what happens when you get hit, too, because your enemy is going to shoot back. How do you recover from that chaos once the shock hits your own system? They will have certain ways of doing things which require lots of training.
But what I think you get in MENA countries is a lot of "parade armies." The Egyptian one comes to mind. They train to march around in formation and it all looks very impressive, but it's like following a script, when in a war they would need to improvise. They'd be really bad at it, they wouldn't know what to do. The Iraqi army would have a problem of army officers just dropping everything and fleeing when ISIS appeared over the horizon, leaving their soldiers to be captured and executed.
It was a long time ago, but the Six-Day War with Israel was like this. The Egyptians got caught by surprise because they couldn't decode warnings transmitted from Jordan about Israeli warplanes taking off. The codes had changed that morning and whatever protocol they used to get the new keys to decrypt the message was slow. Then the Egyptian air force was destroyed on the ground. Then the Israeli army attacked in the Sinai, and the generals panicked and ordered a retreat, but it was uncoordinated, so the different Egyptian elements didn't support each other, and then it turned into a rout and they got massacred. Actually just being able to retreat in good order (you lose but you save your army for another day) while under attack is a success in its own right.
Israel on the other hand was humiliated in 2023 but they did get reorganized by the end of the first day, roughly.
>>2706774>I'm from MENA and I can semi-confirm it … Many Muslim armies have the same mindset as the boxers from the Boxer Rebellion, thinking magic papers will protect them from bullets.This is why I think Mao is one of the most important military theorists. The most important in the 20th century at any rate. He combined Boxer Rebellion methods of warfare with modern, rational, scientific thinking. Like you read him, a lot of it is about having the right subjectivity, like being confident in your ability to fight and win (which are material inputs into combat power; morale, willpower) but not in a magic-thinking kind of way, but building it by winning small battles (bum-rushing isolated enemy forces with superior forces in hit-and-run attacks as a way to build confidence, gain experience, and acquire more weapons) while also disciplining that subjectivity to objective analysis (not being arrogant, not underestimating the enemy, not immediately going Leeroy Jenkins on heavily populated and well-defended urban areas).
>>2707162>The most significant losses Israel suffered in the 1948 war were against the Jordanian army.This Israeli raid into Jordan also blew up in their faces:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Karameh >>2706605Fallujah wasn't occupied until 2005 and it was lost again in a year then the US bent the knee to local Sunnis in order to end the insurgency :/
>Poland,Urgent call to leave immediately.,"Iran, Israel, and Lebanon."
>Canada,"Urging nationals to exit ""without delay.""",Iran.
>France,"Advised nationals to ""refrain from traveling"" and seek shelter.",Israel and West Bank.
>Australia,Evacuating dependents of diplomats.,Israel and Lebanon.
>India,"Advised citizens to leave by ""any available means.""",Iran.
>Serbia,"Urgent call to leave due to ""risk of escalation.""",Iran.
The politics of division in Sinjar.
The Iraqi state has still not been held accountable for the decree; it is still responsible for what happened to the Yazidis. Attacking Sinjar when it should be held accountable would be political suicide; it would serve the interests of the politics of fragmentation, and the consequences would ultimately backfire on the Iraqi state itself.
The Middle East, with its people, nature, way of life, identity, religion, and beliefs, has lived for thousands of years with its own unique and holistic politics. This is because the lands of the Middle East have been shaped by a democratic national political understanding, shaped by free people living in close harmony with the land. A communal and spiritual bond has formed between the people and democracy in this geography. As a result, a culture of peace, brotherhood, equality, and unity has been built among the peoples for thousands of years. This has resulted in a rich historical heritage. Within this rich historical heritage, the peoples of the Middle East have created a communal and free way of life, living in a confederal manner. In the Middle East, every inch of land, every handful of soil, every drop of water has been shared with a communal understanding. Along with this, happiness, tolerance, friendship, partnership, and moral-political community life have grown intertwined like the flowers of a paradise garden. It was truly a paradise; the spirit of communal life was interwoven with the mentality of nature and became enduring.
However, with the arrival of hegemonic powers, states like England and France, this rich historical heritage was interfered with through missionary activities. This is because the Kurds and Arabs are the most populous and ancient peoples in this region; they sought to exploit them and seize all their above-ground and underground resources. To this end, they provided financial and military support to Kurdish and Arab tribes, enabling them to build strong armies with their youth. However, as time went on, seeing that these tribes had grown stronger with financial and military support and could act independently to serve their interests, they withdrew their support and implemented a policy of fragmentation. From that period onwards, seeds of enmity were sown between the Kurds and Arabs, who were democratic nations. While the form of this fragmentation policy changes with time and place, the mentality remains the same. In fact, they now employ even dirtier methods, sacrificing people for their own interests under the guise of agreements.
Even after 200 years, the same politics continue to pit peoples against each other through ethnic conflicts. Whose interests does this war serve, and who suffers the consequences? Both those fighting and those being killed are Kurds and Arabs. The losers and those suffering in this war are Kurds and Arabs; the winners are the dominant powers. The weakening of Kurds and Arabs in the Middle East today forms the basis for the dominance of the dominant powers in the West who incite Kurdish and Arab populations against each other. As a result, thousands of people are killed, abducted, and forced to flee their homes. However, this is not a concern for the dominant powers; because they are the very cause of this war. For example, 45,000 Palestinians were killed and cities destroyed in a single year. Even in so-called 'negotiation' processes, those returning are targeted and killed. This doesn't bother them either; on the contrary, they sit at round tables, making commercial decisions about occupation and intervention under the guise of 'reconstruction' and allocating budgets. But they don't mention the people who survived the massacre.
<ATTACKING SHENGAL WOULD BE POLITICAL SUICIDE.
In Aleppo, the Sheikh Maqsoud and Ashrafiyeh neighborhoods were subjected to brutal attacks by HTS in freezing cold weather, right before everyone's eyes. Now they want to carry out the same attack in Sinjar. Therefore, the policy of fragmentation continues in new forms. Could the threats made by Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan against Sinjar be a sign of a new decree in connection with this policy of fragmentation? After the visits of the Iraqi Foreign Minister and Mohammed Shia al-Sudani, one is filled with a great sense of danger. What was discussed at the table during these visits? What was agreed upon? It is clearly seen that the Turkish state has a dirty plan for Sinjar and wants to involve the Iraqi state in this dirty plan, having it take practical steps through its hands.
Is the transfer of 7,000 ISIS prisoners to Iraq also part of this dirty plan by the Turkish state? Many questions like this are causing serious questioning in the minds of us Yazidis. Today, we are suspicious of the Iraqi state because we fear that, once again, as in the period of the massacre, it will not fulfill its responsibility towards the Yazidis. If it gives concessions to the Turkish state in exchange for certain demands and attacks Sinjar, this would be a strategic mistake. The Iraqi state has still not accounted for the massacre; it is still responsible to the Yazidis. Attacking Sinjar when it should be held accountable would be political suicide; it would serve the interests of the policy of fragmentation, and its consequences would ultimately backfire on the Iraqi state itself. The Iraqi state knows that half of its population was forced to migrate because of the massacre and is still living in camps and tents.
The fate of the abducted Yazidis remains uncertain. Our bones are still buried beneath the earth. Those who have returned have not yet been able to resettle. Our settlements are still in ruins. We are still living with the pain of the decree. Those who should feel this pain, try to alleviate it, and stand by us, are instead trying to make us relive the pain we have already endured. There is a threat to Shengal; a new attempt at a decree is underway. Military activity is increasing everywhere, and a large number of soldiers and security forces are being deployed in Shengal. This activity is a sign of a new attack. To prevent this attack, a new unity and alliance is needed. Because Shengal is the qibla of the Yazidis; defending Shengal means defending the existence and honor of the Yazidis. Therefore, today is the day to stand with Shengal.
>>2707309>ATTACKING SHENGAL WOULD BE POLITICAL SUICIDEGood.
I want the Iraqi state to kill itself and die lmao
>>2707302it might on for this weekend
>>2706739They have about two weeks to leave, ive heard
US designates Iran state sponsor of wrongful detention: Rubio
'We reiterate our call for Americans who are currently in Iran to leave immediately,' secretary of state says
US Secretary of State Marco Rubio said Friday that he designated Iran as a state sponsor of wrongful detention.
"The Iranian regime must stop taking hostages and release all Americans unjustly detained in Iran, steps that could end this designation and associated actions," Rubio said in a statement.
He said when the Iranian regime seized power 47 years ago, Ayatollah Khomeini consolidated his control of power by endorsing the hostage taking of US Embassy staff.
"For decades, Iran has continued to cruelly detain innocent Americans, as well as citizens of other nations, to use as political leverage against other states. This abhorrent practice must end," he added.
Rubio warned that no American should travel to Iran "for any reason."
"We reiterate our call for Americans who are currently in Iran to leave immediately," he added.
Earlier Friday, the State Department authorized non-emergency US government personnel and family members of American government personnel to leave Israel due to "safety risks."
Britain and Germany announced that they have taken precautions for their citizens in Israel, following increased US threats to attack Iran.
The British Foreign Office announced that some staff at its embassy in Tel Aviv and their families have been temporarily relocated to other locations in Israel. The ministry said the embassy was operating as normal, but warned that "the situation could rapidly deteriorate and pose significant risks."
Meanwhile, the German Foreign Ministry warned its citizens not to travel to Israel, including East Jerusalem. The United States had previously called on its non-US embassy staff and their families to leave Israel as a precautionary measure. fdpd
>>2707366What are the waves like atm? Still lots of jamming?
So where would US launch its attack from?
Iraq?
>>2707489Yes, but also weird clicking at 8992 khz.
I remember there was also weird clicking when Fordow was bombed.
>>2707512its 4:33am in Tehran. If you look at previous US & Israeli military strikes they always happen at the 1-3am window.
The deadline officially expires on sunday.
precedents are the 1st Gulf war where Kuwait was given a deadline and the US struck 24 hours later. and the second gulf war where George Bush told Saddam had 48 hours to leave Iraq and then they began bombing at 2am.
>>2707520Purim begins on monday iirc.
Trump is honestly a pussy and won’t do it. Iran should call his bluff entirely.
>>2707537With the amount of constant lying, and then pretending exposing their lies isn't real, I'm annoyed how imperialists are still slaves to this PR bullshit. I hate post-modern imperialism so much.
>>2707534Both Gulf Wars happened around that time too.
>>2707537I wish a uygha would.
arak soviets status?
what is the purpose of the theatre though? after each round of talks the iranian representative goes back to iran and announces that talks are going great and that iran will have to destroy all its nuclear everything but will be able to keep its ballistic missiles. meanwhile trump says that the talks are going horribly and hes very dissapointed with iran and that he is strongly considering strikes and things will go very wrong for iran bigly. next week even more ships, carriers, and bombers are placed in the vicinity of iran.
>>2707575>what is the purpose of the theatre though?To memory hole the last time americans lived a real war experience: Vietnam, because when that happened proles got a little too angry about it. Thats the entire point of clown world warfare, everything needs to be fake and gay so burgers stay docile and don't scape the uniparty plantation, and thats exactly what will happen. Why protest or strike or whatever if Trump is going to TACO anyways, right? Glowies figured out this shit decades ago, we are just catching up.
>>2707534What's Putin got to do with this?
>>2707592Don't forget, you're here forever
>>2707271if i was a glowie i'd be getting paid for what i write, i don't
Death to amriqa
what will be the consequences if iran falls as easily as venezuela? will trump try to take out russia or china next? he will think himself invincible
>>2707634Venezuela didn't resist. Americans came in and murdered people who weren't resisting, because those people didn't want war. Iran is probably going to resist
>>2707634>russia or china nextEven the most chest-thumping warhawks in Washington aren’t that reckless, they won’t swing at someone in their own age, they stick to pushing around the freshmen.
>>2706673>massacring their citizens in the thousands bienniallyfake news
EXPLOSIONS IN TEHRAN
BREAKING: State of Israel launches a preemptive strike against Iran; Defense Minister Israel Katz declares a special and immediate state of emergency across the entire country. - Statement
Israel is attacking. Probably expecting Iranian retaliation and then the U.S. joins in to "defend" Israel.
Why is this thread called “Iran War Thread #1” when the U$ and the Zionist State are not at War with the Shia Islamist Fascist Theocratic U$/Zionist Puppet State “Islamic Republic of Iran” right now, while the real War in Iran is the ongoing Genocide of South Azerbaijan, East Kurdistan, Arabistan, and West Balochistan, along with the violent destruction of the Arak Soviet by the Shia Islamist Fascist Theocratic U$/Zionist Puppet State “Islamic Republic of Iran”, that the Khrushchevite/Dengist Social Imperialist Social Fascist Capitalist Roader Revisionist Marcyite Campists deny, 🤔?
>>2707666Reported to be a joint attack.
it's so fucking over bros. i want to cry
>>2707665>hits Iran>immediately runs away to shelter claiming that Iran is aggressing against himWhat the fuck is wrong with you, Israel?
>>2707670Mehr is saying that, but I don't know, it's still going on, but "joint" attack is probably only a technicality as the U.S. and Israel are surely coordinating this together even if it's just Israeli missiles right now.
>>2707673It's Israel wtf did you expect
This is a prime oppertunity for Trump to put Pisrael into the grave by claiming he had nothing to do with the attack and let Israel get bombed into the dirt. But thats unlikely, I think we are about to see alot of fireworks.
Hoping the Iranians didn't get caught off guard again
Israel tried to kill Pezeshkian
>>2707678The guy who tried to cuck out ot Israel? Lol, lmao even
>>2707678they'd be retarded to do so, he's been helping them
>>2707673>wtf is wrong with you Israel?A whole lot of things
WAR WITH IRAN HAS BEGUN
WAR WITH IRAN HAS BEGUN
WAR WITH IRAN HAS BEGUN
IT'S FUCKING OVER.
WSJ is saying the U.S. is also carrying out strikes.
I don't care about the medieval Iranian regime but for the love of god please let this be the catalyst for the destruction of the American Empire. I'm begging.
and of couse that fucking useless faggot of khamenei has restored internet access just in time for the bombing so all the zionist protestors can coordinate and come out in droves and diasporats can rejoice with pics of tehran burning
JEWS WANTED TO ATTACK IRAN RIGHT BEFORE PURIM.
>>2707664>>2707665>>2707682>>2707683This is all Kabuki Theatre, and it is Inter-Bourgeois and Inter-Zionist Conflict anyway so I am just to going to sit back and watch the Fireworks and hope it helps create the Material Conditions for a Maoist PPW to overthrow the Controlled Opposition Shia Islamist Theocratic Fascist Comprador Bourgeois Capitalist Crypto-U$/Zionist Puppet State “Islamic Republic of Iran” and create a Persian SSR that will include all the ethnic Persian majority regions of Iran, Afghanistan, and Tajikistan, while granting Self-Determination/National Liberation to the Oppressed Nations of South Azerbaijan, Kurdistan, Arabistan, and Balochistan in their own Azeri SSR, Kurdish SSR, Arab SFSR, and Baloch SSR, respectively, that will all join the future Global USSR which will be created after the inevitable World War III between the U$ and China escalates into a Global Nuclear War that will destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, thus allowing for a World Maoist PPW (in both the Periphery/Semi-Periphery where Maoist PPW is already viable in the Material Conditions, as proven by the ongoing Maoist PPWs in India, the Philippines, Turkey, and Peru, and in the Imperial Core, where Maoist PPW wont be viable in the Material Conditions until World War III breaks out and/or Liberal Bourgeois Democracy is permanently suspended, with these two events being related and probably happening around the same time) to create a Global USSR (all of the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR are shown in the first map I posted, while the second map I posted specifically shows all the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR in West Asia) that will place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2707691>keeps Israel. You even give them the Gaza strip>doesn't give Germany half of Europe, even though the Nazis conquered it fairlyCan't believe King lear is so germophobic
BREAKING: Sirens heard in Doha, Qatar, locals tell us.
>>2707691Pro-Zionist nonsense
what's the best move? don't retaliate and carry on w the negotiations?
>>2707697You Mossad shits aren't even trying tonight are you
hoo boy…
i think iran will not retaliate. i think they will recognize that israel is getting desperate that the negotiations are going well and that will take away any excuse for trump to launch the war. so they tried this in order to force their hand.
>>2707700>muh mossadi await the response
>>2707703Nah, Iran's gonna retaliate
Iran needs to wipe out the American bases in Iraq to force Trump into an unwinnable ground war.
>>2707703Israel is attempting to assassinate Khomeini and unconfirmed assassinated the President of Iran. If the unconfirmed assassination is real, then a retaliation is going to occur
>>2707703Reporting says that the US says these are “joint strikes” so presumably negotiations are not on the table for a bit.
>>2707703Negotiations are just a screen for attacks. You should understand this by now.
I hope they sink the American since Trump decided to put it all in one place.
>>2707713at most they'll launch a proportional retaliation
>>2707713*The American navy
Iran will respond later tonight. They cannot do attacks in daylight. Israel will be targeted and if US literally puts their Ziobots in front of them, Iran will likely expand the attacks across US assets
>>2707691>makes Germany bigger>lets Israel stay the same sizeHmmmmm
Iran is pathetic if they don’t close the strait of Hormuz
fuck this gay earth
>>2707703>the negotiations are going wellutterly delusional fools
If the Iranians fell for the negotiating ploy again…
>>2707723of course they fell for it, their flag is gonna be etched into a fell for it again award, because that's all they can do!
>>2707722>>2707703the military industrial complex & CEO paycheque's going well
STRIKES CONFIRMED TO BE PARTIALLY CARRIED OUT FROM ONE OF THE AIRCRAFT CARRIERS
IF THE IRANIANS DON'T TRY TO SINK THEM THEN THEY ARE GIGA-CUCKED
>U.S. officials say the attack will last 4 days.
ts will not last for 4 days bro
>>2707727bro shut the hell up or they're going to raise the Mauve Flag of Irritation and send out a sternly worded fax to you
Iran is preparing for retaliation following the attacks, with the response set to be crushing, an Iranian official has told Reuters.
Of course they do love to post…
>>2707703The negotiations aren't real bro, how is this not obvious yet
>>2707734Red velvet flag of anger and mild annoyance incoming
Trump has a speech out, sounds like a declaration of war, also saying that the U.S. is about to "annihilate" the Iranian navy.
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116147082884192486Any real updates? What's the size of the attacks on Iran?
Ali Khamenei was essentially a clout martyr.
Everyone is claiming this was a random robbery, but it's clear what was actually happening: his killers were driven to take his life solely for the sake of clout. They wanted infamy of their own and found it in gunning down an 86-year old.
As Ali was taking his final breath, he was surrounded by kids taking video and pictures of him. Why? For clout. No one was taking his pulse, no one was calling the Red Crescent, everyone was standing around with their phones out as his body was clinging to life.
The moral lesson of Khamenei's life story should be a cautionary tale of the horrors of social media and how it's fucked our society beyond belief.
RIP Supreme Leader. See you in Heaven…
>>2707740Explosions have also been reported in the cities of Kermanshah, Lorestan, Tabriz, Isfahan and Karaj, according to local media.
Al Jazeera could not immediately verify the report.
>>2707739ok. now i'm convinced. the negotiations are off and there will be retaliations.
>>2707744The only saving grace for Iran is that Israel and USA are attacking civilian targets instead of military ones
>>2707745He also laid down an ultimatum to the IRGC. Surrender or die, basically. While calling on Iranians to overthrow the government.
(Also him saying the Iranian navy is a target probably means the Iranian navy is currently getting bombed, like, right now.)
How over is it?
well hopefully the iranian gov can do a lot of damage as it goes down
Just to clarify, even though I support a Maoist PPW to overthrow the Controlled Opposition Shia Islamist Theocratic Fascist Comprador Bourgeois Capitalist Crypto-U$/Zionist Puppet State “Islamic Republic of Iran” and create a Persian SSR that will include all the ethnic Persian majority regions of Iran, Afghanistan, and Tajikistan, while granting Self-Determination/National Liberation to the Oppressed Nations of South Azerbaijan, Kurdistan, Arabistan, and Balochistan in their own Azeri SSR, Kurdish SSR, Arab SFSR, and Baloch SSR, respectively, that will all join the future Global USSR, I still want Iran to launch MRBMs against the Zionist State, and for those Iranian MRBMs to hit their targets in the Zionist State in order to give the Zionists a taste of the carnage they have unleashed during the Zionist Genocide of Gaza, LGBT, Let’s Go Bomb Tel Aviv, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2707747
I think axis of evil is banking on Iranian opposition to come to the streets to serve as the cannon fodder for "colonial officers" to throw at the enemy. They want civil war in Iran. USA doesn't have marines or anybody in the regions, and Israel doesn't have anybody either.
IS KHAMENEI DEAD OR NO?????
>there are real life, actual gusano shahcucks posting on leftypol right now
fuck off lear
>>2707750I don't think the Iranian gov't will go down. This will rally the people around the IRGC, Iranians hate the regime, but they hate Israel more. I don't think they are morons that believe Israel and America are their allies. There's no real alternative to the regime right now.
Well, so much for Iran's preemptive strike
Their targets were literally in front of them for weeks, yet they choose to wait until they got attacked themselves and for what exactly? To not give them a cause to attack, which they were going to do regardless?
>>2707754They aren't joking when they said that USA/Israel is more progressive than *insert bombed country here*
>>2707757Underestimating the retardation of the Iranian gusano
Has the Arak soviet sent out a statement?
>>2707757Depends I guess on how genuine the protests 2 months ago were, and how resentful the population is at their suppression
>>2707753Nah he just sleeping
>>2707753nothing suggests he's dead rn
>>2707760New metzitzah b'peh just dropped.
President Pezeshkian remains unharmed: State media
Iran’s IRNA news agency, quoting a source in the presidential office, is reporting that President Pezeshkian remains unharmed.
>>2707767This was not at all a surprise attack in the slightest so if he got got, he has dementia or something or is very stupid
When will americans overthrow their regime? You should do terrorism now, murder everyone in a suit
>>2707731shhh the SMO cannot fail….
>>2707751Shut it Zionist clown
>>2707728
>Islam means submission
hmmmm
>>2707764They have declared Iran just entered Stage D as described in Anti-During
is mars within 30 degrees of the lunar node?
Is it over? Just saw the news
>>2707780The ummah is weak brother
Missiles being fired to israel
—❗️🇮🇷/🇮🇱 BREAKING: Ballistic missile launches detected from Iran against Israel
@Middle_East_Spectator
>>2707780>A few bombs on empty buildings>Is it over???Kill yourself now so you never become a weak-willed immediately surrendering socdem when the slightest form of violence reaches your part of the world
>>2707784Death to ZZZionists and death to Amerikkka.
>>2707784>>2707783Based! I hope they destroy "Tel Aviv."
>>2707787>>2707788it's fake. morons.
impact within 10 minutes
If Iran goes down they better unload everything they have on every single oil instalation in the entire middle east, no matter the country
Iran is launching ballistic missiles at Israel
>>2707780it is worrying that upon confirmation of the strike being a joing USA/Israel operation, the iranian government didn't retaliate immediately with all it has.
>>2707795>>2707789Time to squeal Ziorats
>>2707794Iran will invade Israel from Lebanon.
>>2707780over? yes, for a shitty bourgeois state
>>2707793they are retaliating right now retard
>>2707801
that'd be nice too yeah
>>2707798no-one is going to know if anything is over until at least the end of the day, it's been an hour calm down a little
Impacts already registered in North Israel
Wtf is Iran using?
>>2707784Based, LGBT, Let’s Go Bomb Tel Aviv, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2707805Seismic "thumpers" weaponry. Earth itself will split apart to swallow Israel whole
2 missiles - both intercepted (MES)
>>2707808
>What's happening?
<Trouble viewing video?
>>2707816Hope it's salinization plants. There's no other way to make Israel feel the pain, because it's jets are in Cyprus, it's anti-air is in Jordan, and it's generals are on planes bound for Europe
Ground floor.
Pissrael is so bad it almost makes me antisemitic tbh ngl
why launch them one by one? they will be intercepted
>>2707805israel struck back already?
>>2707825They are not intercepting them, though.
>>2707825Locating interceptors
>>2707826oh what the fuck
why did those strike so quick
>>2707825they might be using more advanced missiles with the capability to penetrate in few numbers to intimidate and/or israel's defense missile stockpile is critically low as to permit such an attack
>>2707830they 100% knew this was going to happen ahead of time and had these primed to go as soon as news of an attack came through
Is there one of those cytube things on right now that someone is hosting?
>>2707831i think their stockpile has been recently replenished by the USA
Nothingburger until the Iranians sink the a USN ship and make golem sailors drown in piss-and-shit infused sewage water.
>tfw you attack Iran even though you have no anti-air left yourself, so Iran retaliates at you however it wants
is this a self-humiliation fetish?
https://nitter.net/MenchOsint/status/2027652733575049669#mTrump announcing war against Iran.he wanted to be a tv president so badly he started another war
>>2707835but by how much? the US and israel don't have the production capacity to make up for what was previously expended in 8 months
>>2707830>why did those strike so quickThey take about 10-15 minutes to reach Israel from Iran.
has an aircrap carrier been sunk yet?
Retard-in-chief Trump seems to be betting on a quick pro-US coup from either the IRGC or the army, which highly unlikely to happen. He's just gonna get roped into a longer war by the Israelis.
Since the U.S. is involved directly here with a dozen warships I hate to say launching rows of inaccurate ballistic missiles just isn’t going to save them. Not dooming here but it feels like we saw this response already and it didn’t work then and now they are under significantly more pressure. Just like Venezuela they allowed their enemy to prepare the battlefield perfectly and choose only to fight when their advantage was maximal and could not be strengthened further.
>>2707849yeah. i'm thinking the same.
>>Netanyahu: The goal is to put an end to the Ayatollahs' regime
yeah, so this a whole ass war with regime change
>>2707849iran could do the world a real solid by destroying as many carriers as possible
TOMAHAWKS BEING LAUNCHED FROM USN SHIPS
SINK THEM YOU FUCKING CUCKS
The Iranians got their missiles off quicker than the 12 day war, I think they were actually prepared this time
missile strikes on us naval base in bahrain
>>2707857They were primed towards Israel, but not US forces since they didn't expect the latter to also participate directly. They should start targeting them immediately.
>>2707838He has Nobel peace prize btw
>>2707868Three last ones were impossible
>>2707870second last won actually happened though
>>2707868The point is that they have not tried so far.
Impact in Jerusalem.
>>2707874It didn't. Anticommunist retardation provided such miniscule amounts of troops and with such bad loyalty that they were used almost exclusively in German rear, because Germans couldn't trust them not to switch sides to Communists
fucking sink a carrier already
>>2707879Dude, you've attacked Iran first
>>2707885i am not the idf twitter account sorry
>>2707884Every OSINT account (all of them saying the same thing is a good indicator).
>>2707878YES DESTROY THAT STUPID BRICK WALL
Interception rate of Israelis is lower than the start of the previous war. Good.
In the previous, Iranian impact rates kept improving incrementally over the days as they figured out workarounds and counters to Israel's AD and it seems to have carried over so far.
>>2707912also just a natural consequence of the us and israel running out of interceptors, which they absolutely haven't had time to replenish
Operation True Promise IV
>Looks like the Houthis may be joining the party, reports of missile launches from Yemen
fuckin israelies ruined my sleep schedule
>>2707926 (me)
*manama bahrain sry
>>2707926some burnt burgers with any luck
>>2707703>i think iran will not retaliate. i think they will recognize that israel is getting desperate that the negotiations are going well and that will take away any excuse for trump to launch the war. so they tried this in order to force their hand.Nothing says "
I am not owned" like preemptively describing surrender as a victory condition.
Its over
i juszst woke up, tldr>
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