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Baudrillard was a crypto-heidegerrian, symbols ARE real, read engels and matetialism vs empirocriticism

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Why did you move my thread from siberia mods I don't want to talk to these tryhards at /leftypol/ I just wanted to make theory themed shitposts

obviously he was a Nietzschian duh. Heideger was dumb, however
>You have to be very careful with stupidity. Condemning stupidity is an immediately reversible act - by a mirror - or boomerang-effect. It is impossible to point out stupidity without it pointing back at you. Impossible to point up stupidity without showing up intelligence as arrogant.

No he was a Hegelian lmao

Nah he was a Marxist. Read early Baudrillard.

>>2702510
Epistemological pessimism is antimarxist
Or rather, antiengelsian

>>2702512
>If anything is real [class] war is

ive attempted to read baudrillard, does that count

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How come he never played video games
That makes me question his intellectual curiosity

>>2702705
Its too difficult man, it doesnt make any sense

>>2702713
Pro tip, all the difficulty is in every micro strand of philosophy useing their own private terminology for concepts that exist in other strands, etc

Get yourself a philoaophical dictionary and it'll get easier

>>2702713
He's a depressed obscurist, not making sense is the point. You have to read between the lines.

>>2702963
>depressed
Baudrillard died of lung cancer happy and content surrounded by his books and his loved ones. Meanwhile Deleuze killed himself and Foucault died of pederasty-induced AIDS.

>>2702484
Baudrillard was the last philosopher

>crypto-heidegerrian
he's literally just a platonist.
reality ≠ representation.

>>2702709
Not having gay sex with bipoc neurodivergent children and animals and doing every drug in existence means you're close minded

>>2702965
in deleuze's defense, he killed himself bc of his relentless breathing issues due to tuberculosis
also the idea that foucault fucked kids is a right wing fabrication, so unless u take right-wingers for granted…

>>2703357
Foucault defended pederasty.

>>2702512
Nietzsche was based
Perspectivism is based
The genealogical approach in the social sciences is based

Mirror of production status?

>>2703505
he didnt, though

>>2703877
Perspectivism birthed both radlib standpoint epistemology and right wing race essentialism, it's the least based thing there is.

>>2704623
perspectivism and essentialism are incompatible by definition

>>2704640
It's perfectly compatible. "From our perspective, we are the master race, from your perspective, you are, let's carve up our respective colonial backyards and kill communists"
Fascism is the most postmodern thing there is.

>>2704623
tbh I read and like Nietzsche. According to him we must establish our moral order, things we belief in instead of crying abou the existing system being bad and immoral.
And I chose Communism.

>>2705316
and I don't whatever the fuck this perspectivism gook is. Nietzsche would have bombed his ass off after seeing that shit. An invention by libs to categorise Nietzsche

>>2705316
>>2705321
Morality comes from the masses.
Trying to invent a new morality is left-deviationist idealism.

>>2704839
perspectivism denies the existence of fixed identities and of eternal essence, therfor is incompatible with race essentialism

>>2704839
also in the second untimely meditation nietzsche "debunks" a view of history thats pretty similar to what the nazis later formulated, you should check it out if you are actually interested

>>2705515
in my country the general masses are fascist and prime misogynist. way to go cunt.

>>2705554
Yeah, but the mistake is thinking that compatibility is predicated on the compatibility of ideas, rather than the compatibility of material interests.
All standpoint epistemologists are in unison when they cry "Listen to [nationality] gusano voices!"

>>2705558
Yeah, nietzsche would have hated nazism, but precisely because it was too democratic. In that, the category of "race" or "nationality" includes the slave rabble, and not just masters.
Ironically though, modern neoliberalism is closer to nietzsche's vision.
https://redsails.org/kriegsideologie/
https://redsails.org/nietzsche-the-chinese-workers-friend/
https://redsails.org/really-existing-fascism/
These articles discuss the topic in some detail.

>>2705623
Seek the rational in the real. You're not a blanquist, are you?

Actually, Zionism is a great example of this perfect blending of race essentialism and idpol.

>>2704244
>It is a matter of public record, however, that Foucault signed a petition to the Assemblée Nationale in 1977 calling for the decriminalisation of all “consensual” sexual relations between adults and children.
https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/april-2021/michel-foucault-the-prophet-of-pederasty/
>>2703942
Reigns supreme
>>2705631
Blanquism (as individual ethos) is perfectly compatible with dialectical materialism.

Unironically though the Mirror of Production doesn't discredit Marxism necessarily. I'd even say it can be interpreted as a defense of Marxism within its sphere, and explains the rise of (neo)China. Marxism is capital's alibi, sure, but some alibis are better than others.

For Black History Month I am assigning you to read Baudrillard's Fatal Strategies alongside Sprigle's In the Land of Jim Crow, Griffin's Black Like Me, and Ice Cube's TV Show Black.White. Extra credit for watching Boy Meets World's Chick Like Me.


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