/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

There must've someone who suffered a worse punishment who nobody remembers because they were considered irrelevant.

I do not feel bad for either. Socrates deserved it for being an anti-democracy reactionary. Jesus deserved it for being a religious figure.

Jesus died a far more painful death and was killed for opposing Roman imperialism and its Jewish collaborators. He was also a kind of utopian socialist similar to the Diggers whereas Socrates was an anti-democracy reactionary. Any communist should have more sympathy for Jesus.
>>2706051
Secularism was practically unheard of in the ancient world. Everybody was religious to some extent and this was deeply intertwined with their lives.

>>2706061
also socrates really played the trolling shitposter until the end and refused all the off ramps, while jesus was marked for death for being a political threat
socrate was more gangsta though, although he could have chosen his last words better

>>2706061
>Jesus died a far more painful death and was killed for opposing Roman imperialism and its Jewish collaborators. He was also a kind of utopian socialist similar to the Diggers

the text I have bolded is an ahistorical narrative projected backwards onto history. Jesus, the historical Jesus, assuming he existed, was much more of a "centrist" in the political arena he operated in. during the life of historical jesus there were 5 sects of judaism: pharisees, sadducees, zealots, essenes, and early christians. You had actual violent rebels among the zealots and essenes, while the early Christians were even less likely than the pharisees to promote armed revolt against the Romans. Perhaps only the Sadducees were more collaborationist than the early Christians. Jesus said pay your taxes, fear your master with trembling, and await rewards for your faith in heaven, rather than trying to change the world around you. His actions against the money lenders were not really against the Roman authorities but against the corruption within second temple judaism.

>>2706049
This is basically what F/SN's interpretation of Angra Mainyu represents.

>>2706095
Clearly the Romans, or at least their local collaborators, saw him as enough of a threat that he needed to be executed.

>>2706051
>Socrates deserved it for being an anti-democracy reactionary
if it wasn't for western democracy we would already be at world communism, he did nothing wrong, you are the actual reactionary
if anything he deserved it for the official reasons: being annoying (dialectical)

There goes not one single day where marxists don't do apologism for the "civilizatory" movement and system that culminated in the destruction of the communist movement at home and abroad last century by calling it "historically progressive" while denouncing those who didn't care for it as "reactionary" or "undialectical".
Sad!

>>2706105
or perhaps, the more radical sects like the zealots and the essenes wanted to show that even pacifists will get executed by the occupiers, while the more collaborationist sects like the pharisees and sadducees wanted to get rid of a nuisance who was theologically an oddball but not that politically radical.

>>2706130
come back mr. spookbuster