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The argument for a socialist conservation (climate) corps, and the real cost of the bombs we drop in Iran.
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We could build wind farms across the Great Plains, employing thousands, powering millions. We could lay high speed rail from Boston to Birmingham, from Chicago to Cheyenne, connecting this vast country in ways we've only dreamed of. We could bury fiber optic cable in every rural county, ending the digital divide once and for all. We could modernize the electrical grid, hardening it against the superstorms and wildfires that climate change is throwing at us with increasing fury. We could rebuild the levees in Louisiana, not just patching them, but building them right, building them to last, building them to protect the people who've lived there for generations. We could build sea walls instead of border walls. We could restore the wetlands, the mangroves, the barrier islands that are the first line of defense against hurricanes. We could clean up the toxic waste sites, the abandoned mines, the Superfund sites that poison communities from New Jersey to New Mexico and everywhere in between. All of this, all of it, is work. Real work. Hard work. Meaningful work. Work that builds prosperity instead of bombing it into rubble.
got blocked by Socialism 4 All on bluesky for daring to point out that the AFL-CIO is pro-imperialist and actively preventing a general strike in America.
>>2718721
Who?
so are we seeing a revived labour movement, in america?
>>2718793a national socialist movement yeah
>>2718796Vote blue even if they have nazi tattoo. Like cpusa says. Nazis are progressive in amerika
>>2718662>If anything any other country has invented has military applications then you can rest assured they will be used for military purposes. >>America is not the slightest bit unique in that regard. Tell that to the family of every dead iranian prol. The US has spent less than 25 years without war since its founding in 1776.
>it's pretty obvious that plenty of American inventions and scientific contributions have humanitarian applications as well.Charity is money laundering scheme and not an excuse. Furthermore they have objectively created infintely more of these humanitarian crises than applications like the ones being created in the Cuba (did you forget?) or the entire Middle East or the entire continent of dead indigenious you sleep over. And you've yet to name one of these 'plenty' that hasnt been weaponized and used or being prepared for war.
<<Where in the original question is your invention strawman relevent?<<Everything America produces is channeled into its wars to fund epstein islands just like how flight was used to expand manifest destiny into the Pacific. another day of the yank left-imperialist getting mildly entertained by raping the world
>>2718846Yeah, America is a warmongering state and an empire which is something nobody (not even CPUSAnon) denies. I still don't understand what point you're even trying to argue. You're tilting at windmills.
>>2718868here's my original question you didn't even read so you can stop shifting goalposts.
>Can someone genuinely give me one example of Americans producing any sort of productive labor for human civilization that doesnt involve exporting war? And no flipping burgers and soy doesnt count.its a simple question.
>>2718875No it's not, it's a retarded question. Are you asking whether America produces individual commodities that aren't used in wars? Or are you asking whether it has any industries that aren't deployed for some military purpose? The answer to the first question is obviously yes. The answer to the second is no, but its a no for most countries.
>>2718880>that doesn't involve exporting war to other countries.this wouldnt be hard to answer if you actually literate in the political economy or read any sort of theory.
>but its a no for most countries.you seem to enjoy exporting projection to the rest of the world to save face.
>>2718890>this wouldnt be hard to answer if you actually literate in the political economy or read any sort of theoryIt wouldn't be hard to answer if you could string a coherent sentence together. Say the US produces antibiotics that are used in a civilian context to save innocent lives, this is clearly productive labour that is not being used to export war. Is your point that this doesn't count because the US also produces antibiotics for the military? Are you talking about commodities or industries?
>>2718875Due to fusion of millitary industrial complex and consumer industry, there is no aggregate productive labor because, as sakai explains, parasitism is defining element of amerika.
>>2718873ziohranist dickriding:
successplattnerist dickriding:
in processthis is what the yank """"leftist"""" means when he harps about 'organising'
the yank """"leftist"""" is an enemy of communism
>>2718898If a parasite produces only to parasitize, they are still a parasite. A parasite may be incidentally productive, but they are parasite. Some yank may incidentally produce things, but the destruction and waste in is defining element in aggregate because the yanqui mode of production is contingent upon genocide
>>2718912Those are certainly all words.
>>2718898>Say the US produces antibiotics that are used in a civilian context to save innocent lives, this is clearly productive labour that is not being used to export war.Notice how this is just a hypothetical. Notice how you havent properly ruled out military usage because yes the medical industry is being used to mantain manpower for their epstein army. Notice you still dont understand the clear difference between exporting and using all production for war and simply not. Notice how you focus on grammitical strawman instead of engaging in good faith so you can keep defending the pedo nation state that you got groomed into identifying as like a redditor.
>>2718703what's with the random reply at the top?
anyway… here's the archives…
>>2718922>Notice how you focus on grammitical strawman instead of engaging in good faith so you can keep defending the pedo nation state that you got groomed into identifying as like a redditor.Motherfucker I'm not even American, and as far as I'm concerned the sooner the US empire is erased from history the better. I'm not defending anything. I'm just trying to decipher the incomprehensible word salad of your posts to understand what the fuck your point even is.
>>2718927>what the fuck your point even is.do you have autism or something?
>>Can someone genuinely give me one example of Americans producing any sort of productive labor for human civilization that doesnt involve exporting war? And no flipping burgers and soy doesnt count.if you read a book instead of treating the world's suffering as your own personal spectacle this wouldnt be hard to answer
>>2718927Dude, that's b8. Don't get ur blood pressure up.
>>2718914You use example of yanqui antibiotic, but antibiotic itself is produced from input stolen from third world. The yanqui use the antibiotic to heal yanqui settler garrison and soldiers, but to rape and to pillage.
>>2718935You keep telling me to read but you're the one who can't put a coherent sentence together.
>>2718937>Dude, that's b8. Don't get ur blood pressure up.yeah sure consume the treats, watch the bloodsheed, and ignore all criticism it will surely work when you voot for kamela.
>>2718941Why would I vote?
>>2718942
Canada will he absorbed into the US after the revolution. If they try it before then though I'll post captured burger scalps to leftypol.
>>2718940Heres a coherent sentence for you. If you cant fucking read why would anyone care you consider coherent or not.
>Can someone genuinely give me one example of Americans producing any sort of productive labor for human civilization that doesnt involve exporting war? And no flipping burgers and soy doesnt count. >>2718949Wtf is "exporting war"?
>>2718947>muh defence of the fatherland>muh anti-imperialismLenin said its a sham
>>2718949America produces individual commodities that aren't used in wars. America has very few industries that aren't deployed for military purposes. This is the best answer you can get without you rephrasing your vague and incoherent question.
>>2718948Thanks for the reminder, I need to use an antifungal on my feet.
>>2718953If the US annexes Canada it will just ensure continued capitalist rule in both countries. If Canada successfully repelled a US invasion then it would open the possibility of the collapse of their government and thus socialism. Socialism in the US would spread to Canada, but socialism in Canada would be swiftly crushed by the US. Lenin's calculus doesn't apply here because revolutionary defeatism on the part of Canadians can't result in a successful socialist revolution unless there's a similtaneous one in the US.
how's it feel knowing guys like Platner with incoherent and superficial (but nonetheless on paper ideologically) left-wing politics are going to become a more common phenomenon while all you faggots sit in the cuck chair incoherently ranting to each other about irrelevant ultra posturing?
>>2718951>>2718955>what is exporting warhttps://www.plenglish.com/news/2023/12/23/dprk-newspaper-calls-u-s-as-exporter-of-wars/I'm done with /usapol/, Americans are the most illiterate people on the planet that can't even understand their own language. Why don't you go ask the good people at Pyongyang instead what that means, I'm sure they'll like you guys.
>>2718962Where is the party in this?
>>2718971>muh dprkNot communist isnt dotp
>>2718962And canada successfully repelling the us invasion depends on your personal heroic effort? You are a class collaborationist, a concscious one at that, you are not a socialist.
>>2718968Honestly this place is constantly proving the saying that the left is more concerned with finding heretics than converts. Platner is probably a run of the mill socdem who at worst will dissapoint the same way Bernie and AOC did. Why anybody is being raked over the coals for being even mildly supportive of him is beyond me. At most they'd deserve a fell for it again award. The fact that this thread is filled with such useless nonsense and not discussion of organizing, strategy, analysis etc is embarrassing. Especially when you consider that there's a fresh war on people should be very actively mobilizing against.
>>2718978Which party will do all those things?
>>2718977>And canada successfully repelling the us invasion depends on your personal heroic effort? It depends on the willingness of people to resist.
>You are a class collaborationist, a concscious one at thatWhat makes you say that?
>>2718972Hopefully playing a leading role in resistance, and organizing working people where the ruling class inevitably fails them.
>>2718971>Why don't you go ask the good people at Pyongyang instead what that means, I'm sure they'll like you guys.I'm a firm supporter of the DPRK and don't disagree with anything in that article.
>>2718978I've been using leftypol nearly since the beginning in 2015 on 8chan and while it's always been bad it used to at least be fun and produce a culture. now it's just the sad Last Man energy of a particular version of the left that is no longer relevant to the world today, and a board that no longer has a culture. it's all the same masturbatory fixation with empty ideological signifiers by NEETs and red chuds who don't read theory and don't care about organizing. I've long since given up hope for this place and mostly use it as a news aggregator and place to shitpost or sometimes argue with people because as the saying goes, "don't forget you're here forever"
>>2718935>do you have autism or something?he actually does and said so to me once.
>>2718941thanks i think i will. i wasn't gonna but then you told me to. thanks.
syke bitch, i was always gonna. long live treatlerism. >>2718985>Whoever imagines that socialism can be achieved by one person convincing another, [and that second person convincing a third person], is at best an infant, or else a political hypocriteNgl Anon, I never understand what you people mean with this quote. Do you think that the Bolsheviks didn't go around trying to convince people to become communists?
>>2718988um illiterate Russian peasants who are all Eastern Orthodox Christians will NEVER become communists because they're backwater savages, we simply need to wait for Germany or France to become communist and save Russia from itself.
>>2718988You don't increase the pressure of a gas by agitating every particular particle, but you have to agitate the totality.
>>2718978>Platner is probably a run of the mill socdemYou are an idiot.
7% of Americans join the military
13% of that 7% (so a very vanishingly small percentage of the population) join the marine corps
an even smaller percentage see combat
an even smaller percentage not only see combat but enjoy it
an even smaller percentage not only see combat, and enjoy it, but decide based on their love of combat to serve multiple tours of duty
an even smaller percentage serve four tours of duty in two wars of aggression against countries which did not attack first
an even smaller percentage do that AND go on toe work for a notorious mercenary company run by an evangelical psycho that keeps changing its name because its reputation is so bad.
an even smaller percentage do all that AND then suddenly have a (likely manufactured by a PR agency) "come to jesus" moment where they suddenly become a """"leftist"""" 3 years before running for office as a democrat.
this guy is a small business owner.
this guy has a brother-in-law in AIPAC.
this guy has a blackwater sticker on his fridge.
this guy had a totenkopf on his chest.
this guy was waving around "free tibet" shit in high school like a fucking glowie
this guy admitted he wasn't even "muh poverty draft" but just wanted to go an an "adventure" killing brown people even though his petty bourgeois parents would have paid for him to go to college.
if this is what you think a
>run of the mill socdemis then congratulations. you've reinvented the freikorps and are gearing up to kill rosa luxemburg again. every single aspect of his life. EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF HIS LIFE show that he is a petty bourgeois reactionary who views other people's countries as playgrounds. piles of corpses were created so that he could have character development in his own little life show where he is the main character. you should be disgusted.
>>2718994quiet down and sit in the cuck chair
>>2718988It's the old propagandizing vs agitation debate.
Propagandizing an individual takes a lot more time and effort for less results than agitation
>>2718994I would forgive him if he renounced all the devil shit he did.
>>2718993more importantly, if you're creating an explosive device, you incorporate substances that will explode when ignited (revolutionaries) not substances which won't (liberals)
>>2718997total fucking idealism. he's running for office. it's in his material interest to pretend like that doesn't represent who he is. why do you people believe fucking POLITICIANS WHO ARE ASKING FOR VOTES when they tell you a sob story? get a fucking grip
>>2718995not a single thing i said was wrong.
>>2718995Shut up faggot.
>>2718997I shouldn't say it, and it's not fair, but I would forgive him the innocents he killed if he told the truth.
>>2719000I didn't say he would, I said I would give him a pass if he told the truth of what he did and how despicable it was.
>muh old days leftypol
Old days leftypol was same as pol
>>2719005Hmm? What? anything in particular you are fagging out about?
>>2719003the truth is he enjoyed it and would do it again and openly admits he had fun doing it. to the extent that he "regrets" any of it, it's because he viewed it as mismanaged, not inherently wrong to do in the first place. his entire regrets around these wars are a series of "here's how I would have run these wars better." copes
>>2719007Amazing. This actually make me very happy.
>>2719002>>2719003the American proletariat is going to get dicked down by SS tattooed US Marine DSA cock while you faggots continue to do nothing but screech from the sidelines about shit that is irrelevant to the conditions of the US today
>>2718994this post made the saboshart disappear
>>2719008I don't want to keep repeating my personal experiences, but I met a person who was in Iraq, he was designated for a special program to go undercover as an Iraqi, and I can find the name for this program but it matters not, but he was a Mehican, who could pass as an Iraqi, and he used to go around with a laser target designator like in the comic book Akira which I love, He killed many people that way, but he also killed some people, probably before that, clearing a house in Iraq, they were having a shootout with insurgents in a house, some of the burgergemutts got shot, then he heard movement in a room, so he did as protocol, he threw a grenade in the room, then when he looked inside there was a dead woman and child. Ain't that some shit. Almost better to never get involved with a team where they're giving you bombs to throw into rooms where there could be innocent women and children.
>>2719011>>2719011>the American proletariat is going to get dicked down by SS tattooed US Marine DSA cock yes that is exactly what i said. the burger reich equivalent of the freikorps is going to rape the proletariat, shoot them in the back of the head, and throw them in the mississipi river, to raucous cheers from social fascist democrats.
>>2718994>>2718993Okay, how is that relevant to what I said? The point of the heretics vs converts comment is that far too many on the left spend more energy seething at each other over small differences than actually going out to organize people and win them over.
>>2718994>you've reinvented the freikorpsThe freikorps were run of the mill socdems lmao. They conducted the bulk of their actions with SPD approval. I have zero doubt that AOC, Bernie, or Platner would come down on the side of the ruling class in an actual revolution the way the SPD did in 1919. At the same time I don't think that voting for him or thinking he might do some limited good is some unforgivable sin. It's not mutually exclusive with doing actual revolutionary work so it really doesnt matter, and given the state of US politics I dont think much that happens in the electoral sphere is currently relevant to us. Honestly thus far I've never actually seen anybody actively shilling him here. Just people seething about his supposed supporters, who themselves never seem to make an appearance.
>>2719013>Almost better to never get involved with a team where they're giving you bombs to throw into rooms where there could be innocent women and children.and platner did this 4 times and enjoyed it and kept going back for more and then worked for a mercenary company so he could do it for a 5th time for the private sector. and he did this even though his petty booj parents offered to pay for his college becaue he wanted "adventure" and now he suddenly wants you to believe he's not a zionist and he's just some joe rogan dad who farms oysters in maine, even as he goes shooting with his aipac brother in law and lets fetterman's people manage his campaign. burgers aren't even "falling for" it. they just think this is good.
>>2719014>>2719014it'd be hilarious to me that you think this is a theoretical future that some irrelevant org like the DSA will ever have a hand in when the United States is currently dispatching their equivalent of the Einsatzgruppen to round up brown people and send them to concentration camps. but sure it's not the people who are in power right now and are themselves fascists who are the fascism that will take hold of the US, it's some ideologically incoherent DSA guys like Platner.
go the fuck outside.
>>2719015>The freikorps were run of the mill socdemsyes that is what was stated. did you read the post. notice how that's the only part you quote.
>. They conducted the bulk of their actions with SPD approval. I have zero doubt that AOC, Bernie, or Platner would come down on the side of the ruling class in an actual revolutiongood so you understand perfectly. yet you don't understand why the world views your entire country's people as the enemy. your government just got done killing the shia equivalent of the fucking pope and his granddaughter and all you people can talk about his the slightly-less-overtly-zionist candidate who
merely (!!!) has an AIPAC brother in law instead of taking millions from them directly directly, he has the good sense to do so surreptitiously. he is a more competent imperialist than his senile opponent, and the blood on his sword is still wet and glistening because it is newer.
>>2719017if there were actual communists in the USA, DSAoids would call them "red fascist authoritarian tankies" and shoot them yes.
>>2719017People seem to forget the part where the SPD didn't start acting like fascists until the revolution was already underway. I get the impetus to distrust them (and we shouldn't trust them) but to pretend that we are working under even remotely similar conditions is just ridiculous. The whole danger with social democrats is that they can actually be very effective advocates for worker's interests in the short and medium turn, only to betray them when the moment finally comes for workers to sieze power. It's only in this final stage that you get the freikorps. Yeah I'm sure if Platner is elected he'll just turn into AOC. Maybe be a bit better than your average lib on Palestine, maybe pushing for some decent socdem concessions, etc., but still an imperialist, still a liberal, still ultimately a reactionary. But honestly if you're so worried about a freikorps rounding up workers maybe we should be more focused on the fact that it's already being done, and not by him or his ilk. Fucking priorities man.
americans, your goal with the next generation should be to make them so much more communist than you that they line you against the wall and shoot you. you will know you have done your job correctly when the next generation determines you are counter revolutionaries.
>>2719021>all you people can talk about his the slightly-less-overtly-zionist candidateProbably 99% of the discourse about Platner on this site is people seething at him and accusing others of supporting him. I can't recall anybody ever actually shilling him.
My goal is my fighting Amerimutts will kill whoever and what I say. So really the key question is turning the Amermutts ong the ZOG and Judeo-Judaish civilization. Nobody like Jews, but that's antisemitic to say that.
I mean maybe the Judeos, might find themselves in unfamiliar territory. Nobody likes t hem. Nobody ever liked them. Everyone always wanted them gone. It is what it is.
>>2718762Hell yeah, she gets it
I love hard men
I wanna be with hard men
STAY HARD
>>2719030you said
>Honestly this place is constantly proving the saying that the left is more concerned with finding heretics than converts. Platner is probably a run of the mill socdem who at worst will dissapoint the same way Bernie and AOC did.but i explained why he is way more of a statistical anomaly than even AOC or Bernie precisely because of his multiple tours of volunteer imperialism which is not a statistical norm for anyone in the USA. Most Americans participate indirectly with US imperialism without necessarily realizing it. Platner willingly signed up for several tours of duty in the marine corps and saw combat despite having parents who would have paid for his college. How is that run of the mill? That's future Goebbels shit.
>>2719035>Platner willingly signed up for several tours of duty in the marine corps and saw combat despite having parents who would have paid for his college. How is that run of the mill?Because it's not that relevant. Caring about past military service or even previous political affiliations is moralism. It's only relevant insofar as it casts doubt on a person's sincerity, but it's not as if there isn't an established tradition of American war veterans becoming leftists and even genuine anti-imperialists after seeing it up close. He's really not special when you take that into context. If he were a future Goebbels then why would he even run on a left leaning platform? Why pretend to be a social democrat? He would have a much easier time getting elected and implementing a Goebbels platform by running as a Republican since they dont even pretend to be anything else at this point. You're sitting here talking about how these socdems are gonna unleash the freikorps but the MAGA chuds have already done it.
>>2719015>Small differencesThe dude is an unrepentant murderer who did 4 tours killing brown people across the globe, was a literal prison guard at the american torturecamp in Iraq and walked around for years with a nazi tattoo on his chest my man
You consider that to be a small difference? To me this guy looks like a full blown nazi
>>2719043>To me this guy looks like a full blown naziIf he was an unrepentant Nazi then why would he not run as a member of the Nazi party thats currently in power? I can readily believe that he will do all the things we can expect from socdems, which of course includes supporting imperialism and turning on workers if they get too uppity. What I don't understand though is why somebody with far right politics would pretend to be centre left in a country where being far right gives to a better chance of getting elected.
>>2719048Maybe he wants to fuck AOC, who knows, I just know we shouldn't support him
>>2719048>MoralismCope. It's not moralism, it's an objective description
>>2719048>If he was an unrepentant Nazi then why would he not run as a member of the Nazi partyHe probably thinks he can benefit more by running in the left wing of the nazi party, less competition. He stands out more there
> I can readily believe that he will do all the things we can expect from socdems, which of course includes supporting imperialism and turning on workers if they get too uppity. What I don't understand though is why somebody with far right politics would pretend to be centre left in a country where being far right gives to a better chance of getting elected.Because you are dumb and think that the democrats aren't far right as well?
It's time to shut the fuck up and in between what team you're on before you get a slug inbetween your eyes shortly.
>>2719065I'm sorry, I can't speak, but I can surely kill. Even an animal can.
I honestly can't believe there's still people on here running cover for the genocidal democrats, like they're any different than the repubs. It's actually insane that people think they're in any way moderate or left wing lmfao. Even by european standards, who are all neolib rightoids themselves, the democrats are right wing
I shudder in horror at the thought of the american mind, that after all this time can still think like this
>>2719070I am not moderate or left-wing. I am going to run up in your house and put your brains on your pillow faggot.
>>2719072>wahwah me kill ufaggot
>>2719070https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch03.htmThey feel bad about all those dead children but still want to keep thrir speculagive sssets (houses)
>>2719073Yes. I will. Who are you? Care to say?
We aren't playing these games in the year of our lord 2026. If you want to be a character, say who you are flagfags and other assorted losers.
We aren't putting up with anime faggots. Anime faggots have their bone-structure resettled as it should be.
>>2719075Your father. If you splatter my brains over the pillow you will get your own mother too, because I will be deep inside her at the time
>>2719081I'm sure that will help defend your brain matter against the slug I will put flying through it.
>>2719084Now you're talking faggot. Where is your heat?
>>2718994forgetting the part where he just happened to be present both in Abu Ghraib prison and the siege of Fallujah
>>2718981I've been lurking here on and off since around the 2016 election. Its pretty sad to see the brain drain happen to this place in real time.
Rojava is what killed leftypol right? There was like a board split and its been no fun allowed ever since.
>>2719092one falls short trying to describe it all because there's just too much to remember.
>>2719093well the optimistic interpretation is that people left to get a life, get a job, and organize IRL, and we're the cursed souls who stayed here anyway
>>2718996yeah do you want to make a lenin clone in a vat or do you want a million lassalles running around
>>2719093>>2718981>>2718978What is the complaint here exactly? That people are calling you a shill and a nazi for supporting imperialist goons?
And you consider this to be a bad thing?
>>2718975So they are like Minnesota? Canadians want to feel different but they are practically Loyalist Americans. The British Empire's days are number and the inevitable absorbation to the States is already beginning
>>2719103I'm just noticing the place is dumber and less fun.
>>2719104The States would sooner balkanize and dissolve the union before Canada would be absorbed. If you don't know what I mean, TX is like five regions who wouldn't mind becoming their own states and the same is true with other large states. Some have Indian reservations and tribal statical areas who also want their own sovereignty respected. Since tptb abandoned the constitution there's not much holding things together as it is.
>>2719107Perhaps it was always dumb and you've just grown older and more bitter?
>>2719114Nah when it was closer to its 4/lit/ refugee origins and had less ideological purity it was fun and fresh. When people took it too seriously you had board splits and a dwindling user base.
A pretty typical decline for a fringe internet community imo.
>>2719092Who among us has not tortured POWs or invaded another country?
>>2719126That's fair. I barely remember the old days, as I was kind of getting out of imageboard posting at that time anyways. You're probably right, though this place isn't exactly what I'd call ideologically pure
While not very fresh I think the board is still pretty fun, there's some real schizos on here and discussion can get quite heated. I guess people don't really make long ass effort posts anymore, but imo that was never really what channing was about, nor was any of it really all that insightful
>>2719131You are just a loser.
>>2719151i hope you find sobriety.
>>2719090I think all jingoists cheering the war effort are like this, they just want someone else to do the killing for them. I could be wrong, but I saw this bloodlust and celebratory attitude in public yesterday and they seem to enjoy it.
>>2719152I am dead sober. What do you want to talk about?
The faggot responds in milliseconds a lot of the time. The next interval will be hours.
What do you imagine you would do if you ever met me face to face lol.
>>2719155>The next interval will be hours.Don't worry faggot, I'll set a reminder for: Reply to that dumb faggot hours from now
I'll get back to you if and when you reply.
>>2719152I hope he doesn't this is hilarious
>>2719190>I hope he doesn't this is hilariousI am sober. Now what?
>>2719131 So still I am communicating in other threads, you are still the same useless faggots you always were in this thread now what? Why?
I mean, you faggots have not one redeeming quality and you know it. Nobody likes you. This is you useless faggot containment thread.
>>2719025no you see it's not real fascism yet therefore everything is exactly the same as the Weimar Republic. the US remains the most powerful empire on earth (for now) but actually this is just Weimar 2.0 and the DSA are going to be the SPD to the ACP which is the KPD. fuck historical materialism and working within the conditions available for organizing, the 20th century is eternal.
Most of you should die and you know it, discuss.
>>2719197Iono, but I posted before you
>>2719196>Most of you should die and you know it, discuss. >>2719198>>2719197I mean, if this kaik wanted to save his life, it would be very easy to turn his millions and billions in firearms onto the other kaiks who own everything. He could do that.
>>2719198I know I posted it before, but it keeps fucking happening. It really got to me to se Zohran hop on the neocon train because he's just a fucking mayor.
>>2719197>HOW THE FUCK IS IT THAT EVERY SINGLE """PROGRESSIVE""" DEMOCRAT IS SOME KIND OF NEOCONBecause they are nazi fascists duh
It's not about you kaik ;) Nothing is about you useless faggot ;)
I mean, maybe there are some astute observations I've been missing and I am certainly willing to consider. Where you at faggots?
>>2719197Idi Amin Dada was right about this vermin.
>>2719197Where are all the treatlerites who campaigned for Zohran on usapol relentlessly for a year?
Maduro was kidnapped and sequestrated in his city: zero actions
Slanders Iranian """"regime""""""
But the rootless cosmopolitan faggot could intervene to trump to stop the deportation of a kkkolombian thot whose visa expired 10 years ago
Straight up, I apologize for confronting any of my enemies ITT with less than perfect sobriety. I am willing to meet you faggots anytime, anywhere. We can do this with a promise of mutual sobriety. My desire to detach your brainstems has nothing to do with any level of consumption of alcohol. You faggots should just stop talking shit. It's that shrimple.
>>2719062t. Lumpen animal
>>2719223You know human flesh is saltier than you'd expect?
>>2719223And the kaik disappeared of course. Good for him. No reason for this kaik stooge to waste his entire life being a kaik stooge on some American kaik website but still I'll miss him.
>>2719230Do you know what you is the meaning of psychological projection? Do you not admit you are on multiple psychotropic medications as well as horone replacement therapy?
Nobody considers you a sane party. Everyone only considers how they should never leave you alone with their children.
Dango, these shut in transvestites don't have much to say now. You're the normal ones I suppose? Lol, LMAO. Not in this life.
>>2719247What happened to the memes about how I need to take my psychotropic pills and synthetic estrogen like you faggots?
You know there isn't anything awaiting you guys in the future but a wide ditch right?
>>2719252Wrong anon! It is you who will and up in a ditch and me fucking your corpse. Deal with it faggot!
>>2719257That's not what you tell me. You tell me everyone is out to transgenocide you because nobody trusts you around their children and such.
MOOOOODS, they are having a duel on /usapol/
<inb4 fun police
>>2719271Stfu!! corpses dont get to talk!
>>2719283Only an Epsteinite would say that
>>2719269ironic to use the degenerate yagoda.
>>2719290My arma expirence will help me
>>2719292It really would. Any game that teaches you:
>You can be easily hit from way farther than you think>one shot it's overLife ain't a fun spongey video game
>>2719295>It really would. Any game that teaches youI played a lot of mil sims like red orchestra. Those game taught me those lessons. I remember:
<dying numerous times because some random mf I didnt see who was far away shot me once. And this happening over and over and over and over >>2719298Me and my friends used to play airsoft and we used to play like absolute cowards. That's how it is when you're really trying not to get shot. The coward prospers. If your enemies don't have things like incendiaries, or other bombs, it absolutely pays to be an absolute coward/camper. The coppos will just blow up your location or burn it down but if that's not on the menu, just camp and be a coward.
>>2719302thats exactly what I noticed in the mil sims too. The person who waits and stays back will most likely be the one who wins.
>just camp and be a coward.yes.
What a shit unfun thread
>>2719305>he uses beria the pedophile insteadlol
>>2719048>If he was an unrepentant Nazi then why would he not run as a member of the Nazi party thats currently in power? holy shit you actually are autistic
people need to stop engaging with this retard, its pointless
Alright that's it, im done for now as that imma kill you faggot seems to have fucked off. Mods pls don't ban me for providing all this fantastic and wonderful OC for the thread
>>2719327I just like to think ahead anone, these mods will ban you at the drop of a hat
>>2719325Short attention spans. As humans become more tech dependent the brain and body atrophy in proportion to the addiction. The algorithm becomes your god.
I know you guys love Lenin Mao and whatever violent revolution stuff, but did you know, that's illegal?
>>2719302>>2719304Lessons on war from the Gay Pussy Eater
>>2719298I played a lot of Red Orchestra. That's kind of a middle ground between a more milsim type game like Arma and an arcade shooter like COD because you respawn but the weapons behave like real firearms.
>>2719292The U.S. military uses that as a training tool. I played that on Saturdays for a few months with a group that would have 100 people or so with a semblance of a structure and organization. It's an interesting way to learn about concepts like defilade, reverse slopes, stuff like that in an interactive environment.
>Politico: Gavin Newsom likened Israel on Tuesday to an “apartheid state” and said its leadership has left the United States no choice but to reconsider military support for its ally in the Middle East.
>Newsom additionally went on to indict Israel’s military operations in Iran, which the United States backed up over the weekend by assassinating the country’s supreme leader.
>“We’re talking about regime change?” Newsom said. “For two years, they haven’t even been able to solve the Hamas question in Israel.”
Does Newsom have the juice?
>tfw you hate amerikkka, china, russia, iran, israel, turkey, south korea, and north korea unironically
This world is really harsh for me.
>>2719376you might just be a contrarian
>>2719196This is still significantly better than 4chan, where pretty much everyone on there needs to die.
>>2719374>Does Newsom have the juice?Only the succs have the juice, and even then, they suck.
>>2719376Why would you hate based korea?
>>2719376The objectively correct position.
>>2719378To liberalism
>>2719389The same way people hate things that other chuds dare to call based: with extreme prejudice
>>2719394I asked why you would hate based korea not how silly
>>2719394ok definitely contrarian
>>2719400One word: state
Two words: money
Three words: class
The proletariat has no motherland
>>2719401To capitalism
>>2719405>stateYou either have a state or you are genocided by amerisraelis, next
>moneyYou either have money or your state collapses and you are genocided by amerisraelis, next
> classThere is no bourgeoisie in Based Korea
Conclusion:
You are retarded
>>2719405why these specific states with money and class and not… literally all of them?
>You either have a state or you are genocided by amerisraelis, nextLiberal
>You either have a state or you are genocided by amerisraelis, nextLiberal
>There is no bourgeoisie in Based KoreaCope
>You are retardedLiberal word
>>2719412Why would you assume I wasn’t referring to all of them
>>2719413You only listed 8
>>2719413>No argumentRetard
>No argumentRetard
>ProjectionRetard
>IdealismRetard
Conclusion:
You are retarded beyond saving. Probably an Epsteinite who needs to kill himself asap
>>2718762That music is weak and gay tho
>>2719064>Because you are dumb and think that the democrats aren't far right as well?I didn't say the Democrats weren't right wing, but by the standards of American electoral politics Platner's platform is very clearly on the left. What would be the point of pretending not to be a Nazi, when being an open fascist (i.e. not pretending to be leftist at all, even by American electoral standards) is not at all a barrier to getting elected?
”This was never meant to be a fair fight,” US Secretary of War Pete Hegseth said at a briefing in Washington, “and it is not a fair fight. We are punching them while they’re down.”
The country of bullies.
>>2719415That wasn’t me. That was another anon giving a quick run down.
>>2719416>RetardLiberal word
>RetardLiberal word
>RetardLiberal word.
>idealism I don’t fuck with culture warrior degeneration, period. You lost the plot if you think otherwise.
>No argumentHere’s the argument: you don't have one. Every state must ruthlessly justify it’s existence against ruthless criticism, or be slated for termination.
North Korea uses money, has a state (an apparatus that leans towards the bourgeoisie), and it’s elected heads have the awful tendency to come form the same family. How do you argue against these basic points? You don’t. Your best argument only affirms my view point: the US hegemony was thorough in its anti communism, and there is no hiding from its global watch.
>>2719432>We are punching them while they’re down.And still somehow losing lmao.
>>2719428>Platner's platform is very clearly on the left.How is placating amerihitlers with more treats "on the left"? It objectively forestallz revolution
>>2719439Maybe, but nothing can forestall me busting a nut in your mom's fishy gash.
>>2719428Again, democrats are nazis so he's not pretending anything
>>2719376>This world is really harsh for me.good, it should be
>hates the dprk
>calls everyone else neolibs
glowies dont ever send their best
>>2719434>IdealismX3RetardX3
>Irrelevant non sequiturStill an idealist
>Here's an argument: No Unot an argument
>Every state must ruthlessly justify it’s existence against ruthless criticism, or be slated for terminationYour "ruthless criticism" is a wash and supports imperialism, therefor it can be entirely disregarded
>North Korea uses moneySo?
>has a stateSo?
>an apparatus that leans towards the bourgeoisielmfao insane mega cope
>and it’s elected heads have the awful tendency to come form the same familySo?
>How do you argue against these basic points?They are not points, because you have no alternative. Remove any of these aspects from based korea and you'll have 26.5 million koreans genocided and/or subjugated by the amerisraelis. This is what you are advocating for, nothing less than that. Simple as
>the US hegemony was thorough in its anti communism, and there is no hiding from its global watch.You are the biggest anticommunist itt
>>2719453I loathe every state, and I have a special hatred for the naive who think anything less than abolishment is sufficient for this world.
>>2719455Behold, incoherent ranting and coping. Not even a single successful counter. I rest my case.
>>2719443Do Democrats go around calling for ethnic cleansing of non-whites and saying brown people are subhuman? MAGAtards are saying stuff like this outright. If these were his politics he would have no reason to pretend otherwise. Meanwhile self-identified Nazis consider the Dems to be communist. The Democrats are liberals, meaning they will jump ship to the fascists in times of revolution, but seeing as open fascists are already in power there's no point in somebody like that pretending to be something else.
>>2719460>I give up without ever providing an argumentThat's what I thought bitchtard, I accept your surrender
>>2719467Yes yes, you’re still stumped, we know. Now quiet down so actual adults can speak.
>>2719462>Do Democrats go around calling for ethnic cleansing of non-whites and saying brown people are subhuman? Yes, have you not been paying attention to the democrat sponsored genocide of third worlders? Oh wait I forgot you only see americans as human beings, how silly of me
>MAGAtards are saying stuff like this outrightOh no well I mean if they're saying it outright then wow well, that changes everything
>If these were his politics he would have no reason to pretend otherwise>Meanwhile self-identified Nazis consider the Dems to be communist. The Democrats are liberals, meaning they will jump ship to the fascists in times of revolution, but seeing as open fascists are already in power there's no point in somebody like that pretending to be something else.THEY ARE THE SAME POLITICS YOU DUMB FUCKING OPTICS OBSESSED RETARD
>>2719462>Do Democrats go around calling for ethnic cleansing of non-whites and saying brown people are subhuman?If you get them hot and heated, yes.
>>2719472>I am completely delusionalYeah that much is obvious lmfao. Nice cope tho
>>2719483Brain damaged hitlerite ogre
>Cuba published on March 3, 2026 in the Official Gazette No. 24 Ordinary the Decree-Law 114/2025, approved by the Council of State on December 10, 2025, which regulates for the first time the partnerships between state and non-state business entities, including private micro, small, and medium enterprises and cooperatives. The regulation comes into effect 30 days after its publication, meaning at the beginning of April 2026, and establishes four types of alliances between the state and private sectors.
>The four pathways established by the decree are: the formation of mixed Limited Liability Companies (S.R.L.), the acquisition of shares in existing private S.R.L. by state entities, the absorption of private S.R.L. by state companies, and economic association contracts without the need to create a new legal entity.
>Despite the apparent openness, state control remains a central pillar of the model. All operations require an explicit resolution from the Ministry of Economy and Planning (MEP), which directs and supervises policy in this area and has a period of 10 days to act, according to Article 54.1 of the decree. The evaluation committee for applications is chaired by a deputy minister and includes the General Directorate of Planning and Development.
>Mixed entities will have business autonomy: they will be able to define their administrative structure, number of employees, salaries, and open businesses both in Cuba and abroad. They will also be able to export and import directly and will not be subject to the Economic Plan. However, they must report strategic indicators to the State in areas such as energy, investments, foreign currency, and food.Reforms have arrived
https://www.cibercuba.com/noticias/2026-03-04-u2-e2-s27061-nid322168-cuba-regula-primera-vez-alianzas-empresas-estatales >>2719474>Yes, have you not been paying attention to the democrat sponsored genocide of third worlders?I was talking about as far as domestic politics go. You're moving goalposts here. I'm not denying that liberals or social democrats are imperialist, but fascism is the application of colonial methods of rule to the metropole.
>Oh no well I mean if they're saying it outright then wow well, that changes everythingYeah it kinda does. If somebody can get elected talking openly as a fascist then what would be the point of pretending otherwise? You guys don't actually understand the relationship between liberals and fascists. It's not that their politics are the same, it's that the former enables the latter with anemic opposition that is both slavishly devoted to legality and procedure, as well as incapable of addressing the problems that give rise to them in the first place. Moreover they will subordinate themselves to the fascists in a revolutionary situation when they feel such methods have become necessary
>>2719488oh so they just export actually existing nazism and genocide outside of the fatherland, I was worried for a second, thank you for dialectically sanitizing them, I hope this shuts up the browno-I mean TWists and ultras about the dumb myth of social fascism
>>2719090I didn't need to see that unspoiled
>>2719488>I was talking about as far as domestic politics goWho gives a fuck about that? Why are you pretending that it's somehow separate from the totality of their position?
> You're moving goalposts here.No You are moving the goalpost by trying to move the conversation towards the demokkkrats domestic position only.
>I'm not denying that liberals or social democrats are imperialist, but fascism is the application of colonial methods of rule to the metropole.First of all, the idea that living under nazi rule as a german was anywhere near as bad as being a colonial subject of empire is retarded. Secondly, Democretins are just as capable and willing to inflict torture and repression on the American populous (the only volk you seem to care about), they are just smarter and more subtle about it than the republicans. Those concentration camps republicans are using, were they torn down under Biden? Did the mass incarceration and enslavement of black people in america slow down under any demokkkrackkker? No, and in fact the highest amount of deportations happened under democrat rule. So shut the fuck up with this shit, it's absolutely disgusting
>Yeah it kinda does. If somebody can get elected talking openly as a fascist then what would be the point of pretending otherwise?Because retards like you need to pretend there's some kind of opposition and they don't already live in the prime perpetrator, purveyor and exporter of fascism across the globe. Plus I never said the pretense isn't there, only that they are functionally the same
Graham Platner is a proud servant of the American Empire, he went voluntarily across the globe 4 times to murder and torture brown people. He is unapologetic, wants to increase benefits for other murderers like himself and give more treats to american scum such as yourself. That's why I think he's a fascist and so are you for supporting him and giving him this credit as some kind of "progressive" (don't laugh)
>>2719462>Do Democrats go around calling for ethnic cleansing of non-whites and saying brown people are subhuman? Historical erasure of US civil war award
historical erasure of dixiecrats award
>>2719521>volkFactory status?
>>2719548>Reif derangement syndromeFuck off and go suck Platners dick whydontcha
>>2719521>Who gives a fuck about that? Why are you pretending that it's somehow separate from the totality of their position?Because fascism is the application of colonial methods of rule to the metropole. Their position on domestic politics is the defining feature. The German Empire engaged in colonial genocide before WW1, so is it your position that Germany was already fascist before the Nazis came along? One wonders how all those ethnic Jews and Poles managed to go unnoticed for 60 years of fascist rule in Germany before getting exterminated. After all there was zero difference between the Nazis and prewar German liberals apparently.
>First of all, the idea that living under nazi rule as a german was anywhere near as bad as being a colonial subject of empire is retardedI guess you agree with the Nazis that German Jews and communists weren't really Germans then.
>No, and in fact the highest amount of deportations happened under democrat rule.Of course, but you didn't have ICE going around murdering white American citizens or being used as a personal attack force of the president to punish states and cities that opposed him. You didn't see Biden calling for "remigration" of non white American citizens.
>Because retards like you need to pretend there's some kind of oppositionI already said the opposition is anemic and that liberals are enablers, but that doesn't mean they are identical. If this were the case then one would wonder why Pinochet bothered to overthrow Allende. Somebody should have told him that they were actually on the same side!
>That's why I think he's a fascist and so are you for supporting himI don't support him. He's running as a democrat and I don't think communists should have anything to do with the democratic party whatsoever. However I think it's important to actually understand the dynamics at play between different bourgeois factions and how they relate to each other (and workers) under different conditions. Just declaring them all to be the same is not analysis.
>>2719553the factories still untouched? that's what I thought
>threatens to shoot people online nonstop
>threatens to show up to their apartment or home unrecorded
>admits real life isn't a video game and it's actually really easy to get hit from far away and that the best way to not get shot is to stay far away from combat zones
is this all the same guy
>>2719554(NTA) Well you’re not a communist so there you go
>>2719462Are you so retarded that you still fall for the trick where the democrats continue all of republicans domestic policies quietly, while repubs do the same service for foreign policy?
>>2719569He’s literally a war on terror vet so not only is he aware of it and playing dumb he actively supports it
>>2719564trve… trve…. me… me treatler…. at least me honest, unlike u…. u treatler too….
>>2719554>AllendeHe was not part of the uniparty of the headquartes of imperialism you fucking retard, and he was a democratic socialist not a social democrat.
>inb4 the difference between imperial core and periphery is just le TWistslop!Just kill yourself already, I don't care if you dont "actually" support the genocide and fascsim exporter democrats, you still do apologetics for them. Imagine comparing those monsters with Allende and still considering yourself not even a socialist but a leftist at all
Isnt it crazy how those who constantly sanitize the democrats and even admit in being in organizations that collaborate with them never get banned no matter how hard they go in their apologism for even guys like Platner? But its Felix and le "TWists" who are le bad lmao.
>>2719554>Because fascism is the application of colonial methods of rule to the metropole. Their position on domestic politics is the defining feature. The German Empire engaged in colonial genocide before WW1, so is it your position that Germany was already fascist before the Nazis came along? One wonders how all those ethnic Jews and Poles managed to go unnoticed for 60 years of fascist rule in Germany before getting exterminated. After all there was zero difference between the Nazis and prewar German liberals apparently.Really the difference was not that great. Plus you can have all kinds of fascists who don't exterminate minorities or meaningfully "apply colonial methods to the metropole" like Franco and Salazar. It is just one definition, that can be useful, but not when you use it like some kind of platonic essentialism to what fascism is
>I guess you agree with the Nazis that German Jews and communists weren't really Germans then. I didn't think I'd need to specify the obvious
>Of course, but you didn't have ICE going around murdering white American citizens or being used as a personal attack force of the president to punish states and cities that opposed him. You didn't see Biden calling for "remigration" of non white American citizens.Again, it's all surface and no substance. Who gives a fuck if the people being murder by state agents are white? Black and brown people (and yes also white people) have been murdered in scores by the american state for all of it's history. Who gives a fuck about Biden calling for remigration or not, when he deported more people in his first term than trump did?
>I already said the opposition is anemic and that liberals are enablers, but that doesn't mean they are identical. If this were the case then one would wonder why Pinochet bothered to overthrow Allende. Somebody should have told him that they were actually on the same side!Because Allende was not a fascist or a Liberal, he was a Marxist socialist entirely opposed to such things. While his naivety, lack of resolve and somewhat democratic inclinations are what ultimately led to Pinochet's takeover, he needed to be taken out by him for the Fascist regime to be established. Something that is completely unnecessary for the Democrats. The gall of even comparing Allende, an anti imperialist Marxist, murder by US sponsored fascists to the rulers of the very state got him murder is appalling
>I don't support himYes you do
>He's running as a democrat and I don't think communists should have anything to do with the democratic party whatsoever. However I think it's important to actually understand the dynamics at play between different bourgeois factions and how they relate to each other (and workers) under different conditions. Just declaring them all to be the same is not analysis.The American uniparty does not have factions in any meaningful sense.
If we measure fascism by its objective historical role of western capitalism in crisis forming a plan to genocide Slavs rather than by idealist nonsense then Biden is objectively the most fascist president America has ever had and it’s not even close. And AOCIA Ziohran and Platner would be even worse. But I don’t remember Sabo or any other radlibs crying about them the way they do the heckin Orange Man
>>2719582It's wild man, they don't even care either. They'll just come up with another detached, smug, fart sniffing equivocation of victim and perpetrator and move on
>>2719586>The gall of even comparing Allende, an anti imperialist Marxist, murder by US sponsored fascists to the rulers of the very state got him murder is appalling he legit needs to be tortured to death for this lmao I can't tolerate this autistic retard anymore, this thread deserves Chagos Poster to be "shitting" it up 24/7, otherwise is just imperialism apologism non-stop
>>2719595Old BO’s biggest mistake was not purging Americans outright. Range bans on every American IP should have been the order of the day the moment Glowjava defenders started raiding the board
>>2719596American evangelism is just state department policy turned into a story for the retards to slurp up. If the pews are emptying it means they found another version of the story more palatable
>>2719596Christians in the US either accuse jews of 'deicide' or revere them. It makes no sense
>>2719595I used to give him the benefit of the doubt (as I do with all you fine folk on /leftypol/) But christ man, it's just beyond the pale, definitely one of the worst chauvinists on the board
>>2719462What the democrackkas say do not matter
They perpetuate imperialism
Therefore Democrackka = republican
You are an imperialist
Fuck you
i would advise anyone who hasn't actually read revelation to read it. it's only about 23 pages, and it is utterly batshit insane. did you know that locusts with scorpions tails endowed with womens hair and mens beards, wearing golden crowns and brass chest plates, are going to bite everyone for days?
anyone who believes this tripe should be institutionalised
>>2719609>did you know that locusts with scorpions tails endowed with womens hair and mens beards, wearing golden crowns and brass chest plates, are going to bite everyone for days?That's badass
>>2719586>Yes you doI said he's an imperialist, a reactionary, and ultimately a class enemy and I specifically said people shouldn't support him or any other democrat. But yeah sure, whatever you wanna believe man.
>>2719595Allende was not a Marxist, he was a social democrat, at least in the old meaning of the word. His policies were important and beneficial for Chile, he was advancing the interests of workers and combatting imperialist influence. By any measure he was worthy of communist support. But ultimately he was still trapped in the paradigm of liberal electoral politics, and this led him to enable fascism in the same way liberals elsewhere do. There was ample indication that a coup was coming, Fidel Castro urged him to purge the military and establish a dictatorship of the proletariat. He refused to do so and it got him and all his supporters killed. He paved the way for fascism in much the same way liberals always have, by refusing anything more than impotent parliamentary opposition.
>>2719462>Do Democrats go around calling for ethnic cleansing of non-whites and saying brown people are subhumanthey go around saying that it's an unfortunate necessity that we have to continue bombing the homes of everyone who's less human than us, sorry, has less human rights than us
>>2719619Again, imperialism and fascism are not the same thing.
>>2719622they sure didn't have any problem packing concentration caps with blacks - er, "superpredators".
>>2719616just shut up already retard no one cares about your democrat apologism, I wish I could boil you alive for comparing Allende with the democrats he was 200 times the marxist you or anyone on this website will ever be, just kill yourself, you are a waste of oxygen, fuck you and your entire family for producing you
>>2719625Sorry Anon but if you believe socialism can be achieved through reform you aren't a Marxist.
>>2719626If you think American “socialism” will be anything other than the Fourth Reich incarnate you’re even more delusional. Or more likely just a liar considering your history
>>2719626you are not a marxist or a communist or a socialist you are an autistic imperialism apologist on an imageboard who is delusional enough to believe he has any authority over anything kill yourself and take out your entire family with you so your kind withers away forever thanks
>>2719630Objectively yes they do, your luxury standard of living depends on it
>>2719596>This is end stage christrussian saboteurry. Muh revalshuns is basically the christrussian saboteur's lol mods still using this early ukraine war wordfilter
>>2719603this will increase the work from home labor aristocracy. it's based.
>>2719634how's the weather in tel aviv
>>2719629Oh well american socialism will be the 4th reich
I guess we better keep american capitalism because that is doing a great job of respecting national self determinaton
>>2719629you type like a Liberal son
>>2719644The best thing to do is keep USAnos contained to their own hemisphere and let them rot from the inside out so they can’t threaten the world anymore, and the national conservative coalition you call “fascists” were doing just that until Israel forced them to do otherwise, which wouldn’t be possible without the massive boost to Israel given by the Biden regime which only came to power thanks to the efforts of the western left
Lol you all have zero political imagination
>>2718968Platner politic is very coherent. The dickriders rely on abstraction, mystification, and lies. Fascist settler democratic politic is simple. Platner promises you treats, so you support him. Lenin say Cmmunist always use frreedom of criticism against fascist. You are defender of settler democracy
>>2718978 your attempt to humanize and normalize the fascist babykiller has been noted.
>>2719651What about the venezualan war?
all USAnos and canacucks need to be genocided, this thread is enough proof that it needs to happen, disagreeing with this is just moralism, revisionism even
>>2719665What war? Are you referring to that cute little kidnapping stunt that was coordinated with the PSUV and lets them stay in power in exchange for giving USAnon goyim a flashy propaganda win?
>>2719616>I said he's an imperialist, a reactionary, and ultimately a class enemyYes, that's why you support him
>I specifically said people shouldn't support him or any other democrat. But yeah sure, whatever you wanna believe manThat's you trying to save face. Yet in this very post you are still comparing Graham and the Democrats to Salvador Allende, unabashedly, with no shame, full of smug condescension. Liberals, like you, enable fascism by actively supporting it, funding it, obfuscating it and murdering the opposition. Allende had respect for liberal institutionalism sure, which is what ultimately led to his downfall, but he was no liberal. He was a marxist socialist and recognized as such by his contemporaries, end of story.
You’re all weakling victims, you weakness invites aggression. The white US settler always wins, don’t like it? Kill yourself
>>2719630Yes. That is why they support platner and call him progressive socialist
>>2719670Cant blame thems for that one
>>2719626You are a dogmatist retarded christian with absolutely zero understanding of Marx
<But we have not asserted that the ways to achieve that goal are everywhere the same.
<You know that the institutions, mores, and traditions of various countries must be taken into consideration, and we do not deny that there are countries – such as America, England, and if I were more familiar with your institutions, I would perhaps also add Holland – where the workers can attain their goal by peaceful means. This being the case, we must also recognize the fact that in most countries on the Continent the lever of our revolution must be force; it is force to which we must some day appeal in order to erect the rule of labor.If your response to this is anything like "Oh so Marx is saying we should vote dem here lol" You are further solidifying my point
>>2719681Cant blame the dems for that one.
>>2719681Right, who can forget when Zohran, hero of the western left, condemned the illegal action in the strongest possible terms and promised to wage protracted people’s war on behalf of the…what’s that? You’re saying the voice of communism in America praised Maduro’s kidnapping because he was a “dictator”? But Saboanon told me that the Dems were wholesome socialists! Oh my Fauci…I need a safe space…
>>2719671>Yet in this very post you are still comparing Graham and the Democrats to Salvador AllendeI used the example of Allende to illustrate my point that social democrats and fascists aren't equivalent, but represent different factions of the bourgeoisie with different (and incompatible) approaches to dealing with class conflict.
>He was a marxist socialistYou're the one saying that imperialism is good for workers and that socialism is possible through reform, and then call me a liberal lmao. Rejection of reformism as a path to socialism is a central pillar of Marxism.
>and the national conservative coalition you call “fascists” were doing just that until Israel forced them to do otherwise,
When they bombed countries in a year?
>but biden
Fuck biden i hate the peice of shit too
>>2719630imperialism good if socialist :^)
>>2719684>Real leftists know that we can vote our way to socialism! Only liberals would disagree!The absolute state of this place.
>>2719680Tired from a hard day’s work
>>2719697
That’s right, real communists jump for joy every time a black person is killed by the police, they’re lumpen class enemies anyway right?
>>2719698based socdem reformist
>>2719651>the national conservative coalition you call “fascists” were doing just that until Israel forced them to do otherwise, which wouldn’t be possible without the massive boost to Israel given by the Biden regime which only came to power thanks to the efforts of the western leftgood to know you're a-okay with sacrificing Cuba I guess
>>2719700More like real communists don’t give a shit about the squabbles between the herrenvolk over the precise distribution of spoils (the ONLY difference between the DSA and NSDAP mind you) and instead focus on the real movement
>>2719697
>Black Lives
>2026
co-oped by an radlibs org that took all the money and ran
it's been 6 to 10 years anon
>You’re saying the voice of communism in America praised Maduro’s kidnapping because he was a “dictator”
He called the action illegal but said bad things about maduro
From you earlier comment about the fascists staying in the usa until israel forced them too invade ( thanks to biden)
It sounds like you blame mamdani more than marco rubio
>>2719706If the real movement doesn’t exist in the US, why are you in this threat at all? I know, it’s because you, like me, crave those (you)s, they hit me like cigarettes hit other people
>>2719694Only said that in your imagination
>>2719688>I used the example of Allende to illustrate my point that social democratsAllende was not a social democrat and keep his name out of your filthy mouth
>You're the one saying that imperialism is good for workers and that socialism is possible through reform and then call me a liberal lmao. Rejection of reformism as a path to socialism is a central pillar of Marxism.You are a moron who understand nothing of socialism, let alone marxism. Marx rejects reformism as an end goal, not as a strategy entirely, because he, unlike you, was not a dogmatist christcucked retard
>>2719698>Marx was not a real leftist, he was a liberalActually fucking kill yourself you insufferable retard
>>2719710Because it’s satisfying watching the desperate cope from the western left as they realize the Atlanticist world order is dying and never coming back. Like watching an infestation of plague rodents trying to scramble out of a burning building
>>2719717>Allende was not a social democrat and keep his name out of your filthy mouthGiga cope.
>Marx was not a real leftist, he was a liberalDo you think socialism can be achieved through reforming the bourgeois state? Yes or no.
>>2719718So you are addicted to (you)s
>>2719718why would i cope over the death of the most potent anti-socialist force on the planet?
Marx was a zionist who praised the US conquest of Mexico and tried to move to Texas
>>2719724Because you’re a part of it and you will be forced to give your video game consoles away
>>2719724Because you benefit from imperialism
>>2719711no.
Social-imperialism did nothing wrong because reasons :^)
>>2719724Bitch this is /usapol/ here. We don't engage with what other people actually say, we jump to wild assumptions and erect strawmen to knock down. If you're not a supporter of US imperialism, then why do I keep accusing you of being one? Checkmate treatlerite.
>>2719729 >>2719730oh the noes
i guess i'll just have to deal with the populace getting on board with the building of socialism, how horrible
>>2719735It will personally inconvenience you and therefore you will fight tooth and nail like the loud karens yelling at mask regulations during covid
>>2719737anything worth doing will personally inconvenience you
you just sound mad
>>2719742I get up and go to work every day, huge inconvenience
>>2719748well hopefully we can make work a thing we're proud of until we don't need to work anymore c:
>>2719721>Giga cope. You keep coping faggot. Allende was recognized as a socialist at the time by his socialist contemporaries. Literally nobody called him a social democrat because that's what reformers in europe and elsewhere were called, which he was not like at all.
>Do you think socialism can be achieved through reforming the bourgeois state? Yes or no.It depends on the historical conditions, in most instances most likely no, but that doesn't mean Allende was not a socialist. As Marx said:
>You know that the institutions, mores, and traditions of various countries must be taken into consideration, and we do not deny that there are countries – such as America, England, and if I were more familiar with your institutions, I would perhaps also add Holland – where the workers can attain their goal by peaceful means >>2719749Being a marxist and an anti imperialist is eclecticist, and contradictory, Lenin and Mao were fools and the failures of their revolutions prove it
>>2719762imperialist ok if Marxist, teach them and left up them from a feudalism like Star Trek :^)
>>2719769That’s why China sided with the royals against Nepal’s maoist movement in the mid 2000s
>>2719755The nature of my work isn’t the problem, I have too much of it and it leaves me too tired or with not enough time to get laundry and dishes done
>nazoid apologist sabotard doesn't even understand there is actually a difference betweem a democratic socialist and a social-democrat because all he knows in real life is imperial core social democrats
kek and this is the retard who think he can lecture others on who is a real marxist and who isn't just because he is part of some imperial core LARP organization that will never achieve even 10% of what Allende did for proletariats before he was couped by the CIA for being considered too much of problem for imperialism
in the brains or people like Sabotard and CPUSAnon all marxism produces is imperialism apologetics, it simply stops being a revolutionary tool
>>2719778good thing the most pro-capitalist hegemon on the planet is dying then
>>2719790He understands fine, he just willingly discards it because as a western leftist it’s in his material interests to do so
>>2719791Then I’m losing my job, my family, and becoming homeless, same with most Americans
>>2719777Because China is gay and dangist :^)
>>2719800*gay, dangist and would support the slave owners in Texas during the US Mexican War of the 1800's :^)
>>2719802the republicans find his totenkopf more objectionable than his participation in the bush era GWOT… i wonder why??????
>>2719802spitting fire honestly
>>2719802But remember it’s the Republicans that are the real Nazis because they typed mean tweets
>>2719821both rethuglickans and demon kkkraps are zionazi atlanticisists and must be dissolved in a vat of acid by the international proletariat.
>>2719802B…but Saboanon told me being an open nazi is popular and would benefit you with the Republicans!!?
What the hell is going on here???
>>2719827Nuclear war means this will never happen, face it, you lost the class war
>>2719814The GWOT that China, Russia, and Iran were all enthusiastic supporters of and collaborators in
>>2719829big if true, then earth is lost and some other solar system will figure out communism.
>>2719798yes, perhaps we need a new system, because the death of this system is predicated on the fact that systems die off. so maybe we can start establishing a socialist system that can actually adapt to the new world.
>>2719805the reason why you will never see anything even close to a revolution in your life is because your material conditions produces people like you and CPUSAnon
>>2719830the US wanted to destroy enemies of Israel. those other countries actually were against the wahabist freaks that the USA armed during operation cyclone. that's the difference.
>>2719830Ukraine contributed troops to the NATO coalition in Iraq. Russia did not.
>>2719838Russia provided intelligence and naively thought that the US would also be against al qaeda in Chechnya
>>2719836The Taliban have literally never opposed zionism outside of rhetoric
>>2719835And the third world is too weak to change those conditions, and it always will be
>>2719846Taliban, controlled opposition? just like isis.?
>>2719835It produces people who think that revolution is the only path to socialism and that workers have a material interest in smashing imperialism? That's based!
>>2719846And yet they drove the American military out, the biggest Zionist force of all, with outdated weapons
>>2719859we suck at large-scale war war since Vietnam (debatably Korea), you should know this by now :^)
>>2719802this actually helps his numbers with Maine voters
>>2719859America left because they were bored and didn’t need Afghani poppy fields for opiates any more thanks to the synthetic fentanyl revolution, the Taliban “victory” was kayfabe, you fell for pro wrestling
Weak cucks, the lot of you, the army might not kill you but the CIA and the FBI will, you’ll never reach our shores and if you do, we’ll just glass the world with nukes. Better dead than under red austerity.
>>2719846yes. because the taliban are the type of guys who only ever got power because of operation cyclone. without operation cyclone, no taliban 10 years later. Zbigniew Brzezinski admitted that Islamic fundamentalists around the world whether ETIM, or the taliban, or saudi kings, were all armed by the CIA at one point to destabilize the middle east. so america's """"war on terror""""" was at best a continuation of that policy. meanwhile actual countries in the region like iran, russia, and china, suffer from these shenanigans of destabilization. like ETIM committed terror attacks in xinjiang for years. America sets fires one year, and pretends to be firefighters the next. everyone else just suffers.
>>2719875It’s their fault for being weak
>>2719877well hopefully america becomes weak one day so everything can be america's fault
>>2719887That hasn’t happened in 250 years, and if it does we can just destroy the world out of spite
>>2719941Take over?
Hey already control all of it
>>2719374>Does Newsom have the juice?Newsom feels like his skin is gonna rupture at any point and Hillary Clinton is going to come out ten years younger, ready to take
her turn. I can't believe he's withdrawing his presidential bid. Literally, cannot.
>>2719729>Because you’re a part of it and you will be forced to give your video game consoles awayvidya is boring and so are you
>>2719724Wrong. You are zionist. You attack Islamic Revolution for treats. Iran is one of the most socialist nations on the planet. Read Mao.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_26.htm#:~:text=Although%20such%20a%20revolution%20in,of%20all%20the%20revolutionary%20classes.
>Although such a revolution in a colonial and semi-colonial country is still fundamentally bourgeois-democratic in its social character during its first stage or first step, and although its objective mission is to clear the path for the development of capitalism, it is no longer a revolution of the old type led by the bourgeoisie with the aim of establishing a capitalist society and a state under bourgeois dictatorship. It belongs to the new type of revolution led by the proletariat with the aim, in the first stage, of establishing a new-democratic society and a state under the joint dictatorship of all the revolutionary classes. Thus this revolution actually serves the purpose of clearing a still wider path for the development of socialism. In the course of its progress, there may be a number of further sub-stages, because of changes on the enemy's side and within the ranks of our allies, but the fundamental character of the revolution remains unchanged. Such a revolution attacks imperialism at its very roots, and is therefore not tolerated but opposed by imperialism. However, it is favoured by socialism and supported by the land of socialism and the socialist international proletariat. >>2719875Wrong. Taliban have power because they are vanguard of national revolution because Communist China and all freedom loving forces armed Afghanistan and other freedom loving peoples with arms against social fascism. Afghan Emirate is bastion of socialism.
More on the dispensationalism front:
>In a sermon promoting Operation Epic Fury, Christian Zionist Trump ally Pastor John Hagee predicts Russia, Turkey, "what's left of Iran" and "groups of Islamics" will invade Israel, and be destroyed by God through a combined attack of earthquakes, hailstones and friendly firehttps://xcancel.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/2029070652829786465>>2720300>pink amerikkkan saying white devil____ hands made this
>>2720224>i am happy that the capitalist hegemon is dying<wrong no you're not????
>>2720359Things have been done before and nothing seems to have happened. Also I think most people have been largely domesticated like cattle.
>>2720368Iran is neither capitalist nor hegemonic. You are a zionist
>>2720379Correct, the discussion was on the death of the atlanticist hegemon.
>cope from the western left as they realize the Atlanticist world order is dying and never coming backdo you actually have brain damage?
apparently iraqi kurds are attacking iran as we speak
kurds going for that "fell for it again" award
Really starting to despise the stupidity of the SOCOM Kurds
Things seem to be going well in Venezuela. America is working well working with Presidente traitor delcy selling out her people for the highest dollar
Trump should visit soon
>US Interior Secretary meets with Rodriguez, mining companies in Venezuela visit>U.S. Interior Secretary Doug Burgum met with Venezuelan acting President Delcy Rodriguez on Wednesday afternoon after arriving in the South American country earlier in the day, in an encounter filmed briefly by media outlets.>The two met with the U.S. representative in Venezuela, Laura Dogu, in Caracas' Miraflores presidential palace. Burgum met earlier with executives from foreign mining companies, two sources said, as the interim Venezuelan government weighs changes to mineral regulations.>The visit is part of U.S. efforts to open Venezuela to American investment, especially in oil, gas and minerals, as the Trump administration tries to exert more control over the country following a January U.S. raid that captured President Nicolas Maduro. It is the second visit by a U.S. cabinet secretary since the ouster of Maduro, who courted the likes of China and Russia as allies.https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/us-interior-secretary-meets-with-rodriguez-mining-companies-venezuela-visit-2026-03-04/Does she still have defenders here?
>>2720359>Everyone just shrugs their shoulders and goes back to working ever increasing hours and then fuck off to watch tv and worship overpaid actors/athletesNot to sound like a cliche but things have to get worse and people will have to have nothing to lose.
>>2720440Criticizing an AES country? For shame comrade
>>2720452Not until every tv, pc, and phone are smashed
>>2720300so /pol/ finally understands why dengism won. good.
>>2720412Last time someone crossed that border in arms in that direction - and with the same imperialist power backing - it wasn't a resounding success for them, so to speak.
>>2720440I'm no expert in military matters - but 99% of those plaguing the internet with their opinions are not either - but I'm among those thinking there must have been many traitors and sellouts in the higher spheres of Venezuelan government in order for the Great Satan to pull that shit successfully. Venezuela has fallen and the enemy was already inside. And, even if someone is going to seethe, Venezuela is not Iran.
>>2720359print out this text and post it in every public bathroom in every grocery store, school, church, etc. and people…. won't read it because americans forgot how to read
>>2720474I agree with you to an extent. The internet has become the new opium of the masses.
>>2719462>Do Democrats go around calling for ethnic cleansing of non-whiteshttps://www.newsbreak.com/knewz-1594593/4522895663299-former-u-s-secretary-of-state-hillary-clinton-made-a-striking-statement-on-migration-during-a-panel-discussion-at-the-munich-security-conference-in-germany>>2719790>there is actually a difference betweem a democratic socialist and a social-democrat African democratic socialists: re-education camps
imperial core DemSocs: liberal Zionist Contrapoints fans writing soy PMC Jacobin articles crying about "You're Being Lied To About Graham Platner: he's actually a woke anti-fascist that said trans rights" (no mention of him being a Blackwater mercenary and an Abu Ghraib torture prison guard)
>>2720224> Iran is one of the most socialist nations on the planet. Fact checks to the seething western Trots at WSWS:
https://web.archive.org/web/20230529154551/https://www.greanvillepost.com/2018/01/08/iran-protests-reply-to-the-wsws-response-to-my-critique/https://web.archive.org/web/20230128125555/https://thesaker.is/how-iran-got-economically-socialist-and-then-islamic-socialist/ >>2720440sh-she's just preparing anericab investments for a china-like economic boom, r-right?
>>2720440People defended this stooge here?
A wild moment unfolded in the U.S. Senate on Wednesday as Senator Tim Sheehy (R-MT) joined the Capitol Police in tossing an anti-war protestor from a Armed Services Subcommittee hearing.
CBS News correspondent Alan He identified the protestor as Brian McGinnis — who dressed in what appeared to The Marine Corps Dress Uniform. “McGinnis is a Green Party candidate running for Senate in N.C. An antiwar activist filmed the video below,” He reported on social media.
https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/watch-wild-moment-gop-senator-helps-toss-ex-marine-protestor-out-of-hearing/Video
https://x.com/wakeup965s/status/2029310668004843575>>2720440uh, it's called the real movement which abolishes the present state of things buddy
>>2720440they needed an ML political superstructure to purge traitors of the revolution. venezeula still operates under a liberal democracy framework.
>>2720440Delcy is not traitor. Venezuelan workers support hydrocarbon reform
someone sold a million dollars worth of shares (graphene stock)
damn it could have been me
>>2720452nah you are CATTLE, you will do NOTHING.
>>2720652I want to ask but I don't know where I should, about why the venezuelan economy tanked so hard with the oil prices. i mean the rest of OPEC kept on swimming in money as usual, to say nothing of oil corporations, why did only venezuela sink
so heres some info on the graphene stock if you are interested:
They've been working with the military for 2 years
They're going to be part of some type of military consortium along with battery manufacturers, etc.
They believe they are the only Graphene producer who has made the military's cut
Texas facility to be open in 2 weeks
Nasdaq listing around May
>>2720706May god smite the stock market
>>2720694probably because they won't see any of the returns
>>2720440i'm still unable to make sense of venezuela, forget about delcy, who cares, where is the chavista base within and outside the PSUV? they weren't all put on that tiny helicopter, we should be seeing irreconcilable ideological drifts by now
>>2719113That's why this is the most centralization that the federal government will have until it begins losing more to state dominance. This will benefit socialism jn the long run in North America
>>2720452dumb leftist cope. things can and likely will get worse. the question of "doing something" is not based on how dogshit life is, it's about how you respond to objective political conditions and whether there is a good response at all
>>2720776Why the fuck are boomers so insane? Why do they think they're immortal?
>>2720548/pol/ is pretty much unanimously upholding this guy as a hero and even making AI propaganda of him fighting against a corrupt government. And even despite knowing he's borderline Marxist, green party, pro-Palestine and pro-LGBT. Even so far as calling anyone that mocks him a traitor. Impressive.
>>2721028Well he's right. Which means he's posturing and he's a liar.
>>2721028Platner glows so hard Im struggling to keep my eyes in my skull. But, that's a surprising take form even him. Though, I heard he's still a massive Russia hawk. Could be fake, but idk
>>2720990>Why the fuck are boomers so insane? Why do they think they're immortal?I genuinely wish I knew, they don't even seem to believe that death is real and something that will happen to them. It was very on display with Covid. I've often wondered if a lot of what we're seeing right now when it comes to the slow self-destruction of anything resembling a society is some weird annihilation urge in boomers ie "if I have to die, everyone has to go with me".
>>2721030Based chameleon.
Apparently anarchists got ratted out at their own trial for ambushing ICE bc one of their "comrades" squealed. Lynette Sharp was the one who snitched.
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