When it first emerged, Muscovy, more known today as Moscow, is hardly the world metropolis we know it is today. In fact, it was hardly a city, as much as it was a neighbourhood of mudhuts created as an outpost for the much wealthier slavic states of Rostov and Vladimir.
Everything changed when the Mongol Empire came. You see, the princes of Moscow responded to the invaders with a very unique ideology called pragmatism. Instead of raising noise about defying the Great Satan (of Mongol imperialism), or declaring a military Flood against the Tatar settler colonialism in Crimea, or even God forbid trying to forment some sort of Slavic Axis of Resistance against the invaders, Moscow took the opposite approach. They flattered the Tatars, they gave their daughters to the Mongol khans, and they even plundered other fellow Slavs on behalf of their Mongol overlords. What despicable comprador behaviour!
But see, this pragmatism not only spare them the destruction that was inflicted on rebellious slavic states like Tver (who suffer the fate of a violent regime change engineered by the Mongols), it also allowed them to grow rapidly; so rapid, in fact, that they eventually gained enough strength to topple the Tatar opressors.
That is the key, my friend. Pragmatism, knowing your limits, and long term view of things. Not ideologically charged rhetorics about defying imperialism, not waging suicidal wars simply because you have the moral high ground. Pragmatism is what will defeat imperialism.
Now, this is just a quirky historical post, and certainly has no bearing on the current geopolitical situation in the Middle East and Iran and Palestine specifically. Whatever lessons you want to infer from this post exist solely in your mind.
>>2718836Perhaps Putin is doing this strategy.
>>2718849i think it applies more to China, who prefer to bid their time and build their economy over open confrontation against the Americans. Moscow has done the exact opposite strategy that Muscovy did; open confrontation and bellicose rhetoric. They are drawing too much noise to themselves, just like the poor Iranians
defying imperialism is only considered "ideologically charged rhetoric" by neoliberals and the corporate class. most ordinary people regardless of political typology are opposed to the basic tenets of imperialism such as initiating foreign conflicts
>>2718863anon, the whole point of my post is that you should base your behaviour on an actual long term strategy. Not on what most people believe is moral or correct. Otherwise you will end up in a suicidal war that destroys your prospect of nationhood for the next century
Pre modern empires are not the same as modern colonialism.
You are dumb.
>>2718916Imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism which mongols have achieved centuries before europeans
>>2718852>China, who prefer to bid their time and build their economy over open confrontation against the Americans. I mean yeah, they can't win in an open confrontation. I wouldn't want to fight Mike Tyson on his terms either.
>>2718872defying imperialism is long term strategy its like the most fundamental long term strategy there is
>>2718836This only works if your opponent isn't hell bent on your destruction for his own deranged ideological reasons. There is no compromise that German Jews could've made with the Nazis (see: the head of the Nazi "national league of German Jews" being sent to a concentration camp) except to emigrate beyond their reach (which even then is a hollow guarantee if you only moved next door, e.g. into a country the Nazis invaded)
Even in less extreme circumstances: what can (say) poor little Cuba offer the US which is more valuable than carrying Florida in the presidential election? In US-Cuba relations, it has generally been the US which has rejected pragmatism.
Sometimes your options are to die, or to be killed.
So why did the Ayatollah support the war on terror again?
>>2719587You are confusing method with results anon. There is a difference between defying imperialism as a method, which lead to your country being bombed and your people being genocided, and defying imperialism as a result, which lead to your country being prosperous.
Look at Iran and compare it with Turkey. Iran pick defying imperialism as-a-method, which is why it created the Axis of Resistance. The end result is practically nil.
Turkey chooses defying imperialism as-a-result. Which meana getting into NATO, and using it to enrich and industrialize yourself. Which one is more likely to end Israel by 2060?
>>2720003Of course, there is the elephant in the room to be adressed here. People who are so gung ho about confrontational anti imperialism tends to not live in the state, or even in the region where the struggle is happening. Therefore they have no interest in choosing the least painful way forward, because they are not physically impacted by any of this, nor will they be held responsible in case the open confrontation ends up in a failure
Kinda vacuous since you can easily name America as the modern day Mongols too
>>2720059Glad you have no reservations for gulf states support for US against Iran since they're taking out their geopolitical enemy ;)