>wants to denazify UKKKraine
>supports Nazi AFD party in Germany
Can you explain this bullshit Ziggers?
You only anti-Nazi when convenient?
Not mention insanely many Wagner mercenaries had Nazi tattoos before betrayal.
Denazification my ass
AfD is objectively less Nazi than CDU, SPD, and especially German Greens
>>2728664>muh ziggersshocking, a country at war will support anyone in other countries opposing support to their adversary in that war, who could have thought
and the kaiser supported the bolsheviks
>>2728669That is not precisely it either.
In truth, you all look the same cause you are, for all intents and purposes, the same.
Try to see the other guy's perspective. Even just as a brief exercise. Maybe it'll help you, maybe not.
Anyway I misplaced it but I had a little explainer about that. But in brief: You (empire citizen) all look the same, bloodthirsty maniacs that have absolutely no qualms killing anyone "in the way".
Personally I do think that is a more accurate picture of the world than whatever the westoid propaganda is coming up with.
So again, very briefly:
What is bad for you (internal "nazism", whatever you wanna call it) is good for the world and vice-versa.
Ukraine is the west. The west is Ukraine.
Israel is the west. The west is Israel.
It's classically fascist / exterminist etc. obviously.
They have decided that they want to do it the hard way.
Any action against NATO is defensive in nature.
Or what makes you think you are not already there (in "fascism", "nazism", exterminism call it what you like). Only your own mistaken ideas of being the democratic, leader of the free world and all that nonsense. It's not like you did anything to course correct at any point (fight colonialism, endless war for profit etc.).
Again, I'll reiterate: Try to see the "other guy's (or gal's) perspective". That's the only advice I have to the vast majority of westoids at this point.
>>2728691Might as well join the race war then
>>2728697Can't say I get your meaning. Just a vague notion that the point is not being understood.
You are (presumed) US-american. You are the enemy of the world.
You must be beaten back by whatever means for the world to (have a chance to) live.
>>2728710I just go to work like any prole, if that makes me ontologically evil than there’s no point doing anything
>>2728716The bombs are never reaching here and if they did, they would be from western governments anyway
>>2728664Russian media pundits usually support anyone who is opposed to the EU support of Ukraine. That's why they flip flop between ideologies/parties so much
>>2728669>AfD is objectively less Nazi than CDU, SPD, and especially German Greenswtf are u talkin about, Jesse
>Can you explain this bullshit Ziggers?
Easy: The AfD is not a pro-Putin party. They support German re-armament and ratified Finnish and Swedish accession to NATO for example. I am sorry but you fell for the German version of Russia-gate.
>>2728721Again, I don't know what is lost in translation here. Who's bombing who?
Then build a bomb, I don't know. Kill a soldier, cop. Something.
Sometimes one must do things themselves. Take destiny in your own hands, yes?
But really, I have not been trying to tell you what to do. I don't think that's gonna be fruitful, besides. I have simply been trying to explain a different perspective. Or the very idea of the existence of a different perspective.
>>2728730The "problem of evil" is between you and your god.
Personally, not much of a believer.
>>2728733The weather underground did all that, it didn’t work, nothing works, settler states are invincible
>>2728733one cannot be evil, but only lacking in virtue, thats the point. to be is to be good, for being is good. so then, "ontological evil" is a contradictory notion.
>>2728737Nothing is invincible. Nothing is eternal. Everything that arises, passes away.
More importantly, or concretely, these systems are man-made. Everything made by humans can be unmade by the same.
>>2728743>being is goodOn what basis? Being is being. But that really is beside the point.
>>2728749being is good because it is necessary.
further, what is best of a thing is what is most in it.
the pure is better than the impure etc.
>>2728664>supports Nazi AFD party in Germany One of the reason why I loathe Putin. He openly funds rightoids in my country. Anti-fascism for us but nazis for you.
>>2728749No settler state has ever been destroyed, even in Zimbabwe the remaining whites own all the economic assets in the country
>>2728769I dunno, Algeria? You hear very little about that place these days.
But in any case the difference between destroyed and transformed is also depending on perspective.
Go away third worldists. Your shitty nations are capitalist as well, and the fact that your countries too weak to be effectively imperialist* doesn't give you any moral standing.
*and this is inaccurate as well, as many third world countries regularly bully ones weaker than them
>>2728769You would need socialism to get rid of agricultural bourgeoisie and not just land owners.
>>2728783Socialism is impossible though
>>2728785In Zimbabwe this is economical reality that they have to live with. But im not so sure about modern 1st world AI economy.
>>2728796Bro we’re not gonna have potable water or breathable air in 10 years, this whole idea of capitalism being progressive is bunk, it’s an evolutionary dead end
>>2728804Chagos
Cha ( g ) os
G in Chaos
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G_factor_(psychometrics)
>The g factor is a construct developed in psychometric investigations of cognitive abilities and human intelligence. It is a variable that summarizes positive correlations among different cognitive tasksIntelliGence in Chaos. I know what you are.
>>2728799>Bro we’re not gonna have potable water or breathable air in 10 years, Maybe you live close to Sahara. Take your climate schizo pills.
>>2728816The oceans are going to be dead THIS YEAR
>>2728817>Fell for the environmentalist scam 99% of the world's water is not safe for drinking. We just have to invest massive amounts into desalination tech and we can unlock a 99% boost in our drinking supply. The Earth can support at least another 50 billion humans. Don't fall for retarded Club of Rome lies.
>>2728823You’re going to be my slave when Yukon and Siberia are the only arable land and everyone is fighting for a latifundia plantation there
>>27288241) Stratospheric Aerosol Injection of SO2 can effectively reverse global warming, giving us plenty of time to decarbonize
2) Ultra cheap solar + storage + wind unlocks infinite water via desalination and infinite food via hydroponics and aeroponics
3) Population growth is slowing down while resource efficiency increases, recycling and new technologies are being developed at an accelerated scale.
>>2728833Oil corporations aren’t going to allow that
>>2728833So2 might be necessary but it has severe downsides the sea will still acidify and it will kill rain patterns
We are running out if time for a good solution
>>2728669From what i understand lukewarm Strasserites such as Höcke and Chrupalla represent a minority inside the AfD. For now they are useful because they're good at baiting East German workers into voting AfD, however they may get purged by the western bourgeois neocon/reactionary zionist types, who are indistinguishable from Merz and his ilk, at any point.
>>2728850The solution is to scale back all production and technology and reintroduce feudal and oriental social relations, modes of production which take 1000s of years to do the type of damage that capitalism does in a generation
>>2728824Bro I'm going to move to China on an English teacher visa. Enjoy killing each other over in your Western Garden of Eden paradise because your governments are too retarded and corrupt to help the common man. The CCP will provide for me.
>>2728859You will never be chinese, even if they tolerate your presence you’ll never be one of them, you’ll never be a citizen, and you’ll be hanged if you try to marry one of their daughters and rightfully so
>>2728864I don't care about not being a citizen. Being allowed to live there is good enough. And I don't care about getting married either women these days are crazy. I'll be happier living under a socialist dictatorship than any country in the West. The West is completely batshit insane. Unlimited capitalism + crazy people = hell on earth.
>>2728877China is dependent on the west, married at the hip, if they stop sending their cheap crap to Walmart their trotskyite system falls apart in a week
>>2728894Uyghur were you living under a rock when Trump tried to wreck China with tariffs? Exports to the US could hit zero and they'd still be fine.
Climatetards have been dooming for over a decade by now, it's always two more weeks before the climate god descends and kill us all.
Not saying it's not a real problem and a massive one, but I've grown skeptical of the "cataclysm SOON" predictions after all these years on /leftypol/
>>2728925That was all fake, all pro wrestling kayfabe
>>2728931I could literally stab you repeatedly and you would say
> doesn’t matter, you didn’t hit my vitals >>2728931This. Kek I remember being taught in school that we would run out of fish and fishing stocks would collapse and no one would ever eat seafood ever again. Then when I entered the workforce they were already talking about creating fish farms and I realized that just like how we could breed livestock we could also breed fish and the capitalists were just brainwashing the youth into doomerism and pessimism. Insane.
>>2728939Fish farming is even worse, when they escape their cages they eat everything, worse than feral pigs
>>2728931i'm also the same with all the predictions of the collapse of the US empire. In history there's been way too many times when empires have come bounding back, while people were dooming about collapse.
>>2728669This, by virtue of not being pro Azov they’re objectively the anti-imperialist option
>>2728833>Stratospheric Aerosol Injection of SO2 yeah if you consider acidic rain and boom of respiratory disease is worth it, theres a reason we stopped that shit, its killing us and the environment even faster than climate change
>>2728986You can just google SAI and read multiple peer reviewed papers that show that those affects will NOT be a problem given the SO2 concentrations and altitudes of the process.
We're not belching our SO2 like a 19th century coal power plant, we',re releasing very low concentrations of aerosol 30 km up in the atmosphere where there isn't even any water vapour to form acid rain. The aerosol spreads all across the globe and gradually descends while reducing its concentration to such a low level, it's barely measurable in the atmosphere.
>>2728664Oh shit, a jpeg. Ziggers BTFO.
>>2728683Yeah pretty much.
>>2728723Are you not familiar with German politics at all? The German Greens used to be the peace party…
back in the 80s. In the second half of the 90s they transformed into the most belligerent party by far. They now always strike this rhetorical pose about any topic: "We love peace, but now we are basically facing da new Hitler, and so we decided to support this military intervention with great
Bauchschmerzen." Bauchschmerzen is the German term for "tummy ache". And this is a standard term now in German politics thanks to the greens. You say that whenever you vote to do something fucked up, but you are still like resisting somewhat,
in your mind, and that makes you a moral person.
>>2728854>From what i understand lukewarm Strasserites such as Höcke and Chrupalla represent a minority inside the AfD.There are definitely fascists in the party, but I agree that the AfD as a whole is not a fascist party.
>>2728669>fascist party is less fascist than milquetoast socdem partyleftoids will never learn
>>2729039For clarification, those in the AfD who are considered fascist by MSM, i.e. the "patriots" and "nationalists" around Höcke et al., actually appear the least fascist and dangerous to working class interests to me, despite the optics. I would agree with other posters ITT that in contemporary German politics (as well as in EU politics) the real fascist menace lies in the old bourgeois west-german, liberal-conservative "center" parties. CDU, Greens, FDP, SPD and at least half of the AfD are essentially one bourgeois neocon/reactoid party at this point in terms of political agenda, they merely differ in name and colors they use for advertising.
>>2728799You are a climate demoralising faggot. Millions will die. The struggle will go on. The Communist is sturdy like an oak.
>>2728664Mods permaban op for using a racist slur RIGHT THE FUCKING NOW!!! DO IT NOW!!!
>>2729132Yeah the next dominant species will achieve communism if not humans. Communism is not about humanity its about communism
>>2729125If only Cucktin gave the BSW 11 billion euros of extra funding like he did with the AFD. Sadly Russia likes funding nationalist morons so Germany is screwed.
>>2729143Maybe you'd already be GenSec of the All-German Communist Volksrepublik.
If they gave all that to you, personally, you'd have become bigger than Jesus, or Hitler at least.
>>2728749>>2728733All you’re going to accomplish is failing to build a bomb and blowing yourself up.
>>2729143Faggots in rich countries will do nothing, they expect people of poorer countries to gib dem free gibs while dey do nuffin
Just like the yank leftist who does nothing but complain that Xi is not liberating the world
>>2729044And what are these 'milquetoast socdem parties'?
>>2728769Truth is most of Africa and Asia weren't decolonized by violence, they were decolonized by the triumph of liberal ideas and international pressure from the UK and the US in the aftermath of WW2.
>>2728779Algeria is probably one of the most misunderstood conflicts. Part of that comes from Frantz Fanon and The Battle of Algiers. leftists tend to focus on the early phase of revolutionary violence and assume that was the whole story. In reality, that strategy almost destroyed the movement. Fighters kept getting arrested and interrogated and those arrests often led to even more members being captured. So the FLN eventually pulled out of the cities.
After that they became far more cautious and organized. Instead of dramatic urban attacks, they focused on leading the French on wild goose chases, the goal wasn’t really to “win” the war in a conventional battles. Ben Bella understood the political situation in France, the war was unpopular and expensive. So the strategy became a long slog, retreating to rural regions or neighboring Libya or Tunisia until they built up their strength and then ambush and retreat. Another factor was that many of the FLN’s best leaders had previously served in the French Army. They understood military discipline and had a good sense of how the French forces operated and so when independence finally came, , power ended up in the hands of Ben Bella and Houari Boumédiene both of whom partly because of their backgrounds, were somewhat Francophile in habit.
fuck NATO. that is all
>>2730177"i would care about the british factory worker, but he is a treatler because he exploits the british colonies abroad. the end." - marx, capital, volume 1 (the only volume), page 1 (the only page)
>>2730177I live in Israel btw
>>2730347Tripcode fail, retard
>>2728664All that matters is that they don't want to endlessly hand Givas to Zelya, really.
>>2728799If all is lost and climate change will destroy the world and nobody will do anything then just kilm yourself. Spare us the whining and make asn easy exit, fag.
Climate deniers ITT are coping hard.
>>2729044national-socialism is more fascistic than traditional reactionary conservatism
Trvke
>>2728691>Ukraine is the west. The west is Ukraine.arguable
>Israel is the west. The west is Israel.it's not, it's a different civilization completely
>>2739340Israel is definitely western
AfD is to the left of the DNC
>>2739345how so? what connection does it have with western world?
>>2739350DNC maintains and expands imperialism. AfD has no power over imperialism, so whether they like it or not, they cannot influence it.
You morons are aesthetics-based. One irrelevant lesbian mongrel shouting "Auslander raus" and you lose your shit. Meanwhile, your wholesome DNC 'leftists' are raping the world and you sleep.
>>2739353This is not what determines if a person is to the left or to the right of somebody or if a group is. Off of this perspective then. David Duke is to the left of every single politician that is probably ever existed then since he never held political office
>>2739353billy bob also has absolutely no power over imperialism so by this definition he's left of adf, dnc and even cpusa
Russian worldview is easy to understand if you go back into their history and understand that Russian elite pathology is all about Mainland Pan-European Civilizational supremacy.
Russia views itself as the third rome, Russian nobility literally has a direct line to Rome and the Roman imperial line.
Russia culturally, sees it's own culture and "modern" (post-medieval) history as being particularly linked to France and Germany. I don't think it's really an exaggeration to say that Russian elites since Peter, have basically looked at Germany/Prussia and France like a early 2000s weeb viewed Japan.
Russian elite culture has basically been trying to prove themselves as historically significant to Europe, and sort of as a "brother" to france and germany, this is why so much of our high arts come out of Russia, classical music, classical fashion, classical literature, classical architecture.
Russia DESPISES the Anglos. It basically thinks that without the UK/US Russia would have joined with France and Germany to create a great Eurasian power, but the British then the Americans, worked to pull France and Germany away, subjugated them under NATO and have used NATO to octricize Russia, specifically to stop the rise of Europe and the premier global power.
BTW, the Russian elites on that later point aren't actually wrong, on paper, this is directly stated to be the US goal behind NATO by the US themselves.
>>2739396that's ridiculous because russia is not civilisationally european at all
>>2739368correct. he is.
>>2739357yes, david duke is to the left of hillary clinton, you are correct.
>>2739368>>2739362>>2739357SPD is to the right of AfD. As another anon pointed out, national-socialism (nazism) is to the right of conservatism.
It's geopolitics the AfD wants to weaken the EU and sees poland as their main enemy. Germany in no way benefits from having its gas cut off from Russia, it deindustrializes Germany and their industries move to Poland, and poland is still banking on Ukraine (which has lots of gas and cheap labor) somehow winning.
>>2739460german industries move to india not poland which struggles with the same high electricity prices as germany
dismantling of german nuclear grid was started by the same shroeder that signed laying of stasistream a couple days before he lost bid for reelection and ended up getting a cozy gazprom job as a reward
geopolitically speaking europeans should build a fucking wall literally and figuratively as any expenditure in russia funds russian war machine which will bite european in the ass eventually
every versteher whether grune, linke, fdp, sdp, cdu or afd is either a traitor or an useful idiot - thanks for bringing this up
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