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>wants to denazify UKKKraine
>supports Nazi AFD party in Germany

Can you explain this bullshit Ziggers?
You only anti-Nazi when convenient?
Not mention insanely many Wagner mercenaries had Nazi tattoos before betrayal.


Denazification my ass

AfD is objectively less Nazi than CDU, SPD, and especially German Greens

>>2728664
>muh ziggers
shocking, a country at war will support anyone in other countries opposing support to their adversary in that war, who could have thought

and the kaiser supported the bolsheviks

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>>2728669
That is not precisely it either.

In truth, you all look the same cause you are, for all intents and purposes, the same.
Try to see the other guy's perspective. Even just as a brief exercise. Maybe it'll help you, maybe not.
Anyway I misplaced it but I had a little explainer about that. But in brief: You (empire citizen) all look the same, bloodthirsty maniacs that have absolutely no qualms killing anyone "in the way".
Personally I do think that is a more accurate picture of the world than whatever the westoid propaganda is coming up with.
So again, very briefly:
What is bad for you (internal "nazism", whatever you wanna call it) is good for the world and vice-versa.

Ukraine is the west. The west is Ukraine.
Israel is the west. The west is Israel.
It's classically fascist / exterminist etc. obviously.
They have decided that they want to do it the hard way.
Any action against NATO is defensive in nature.

Or what makes you think you are not already there (in "fascism", "nazism", exterminism call it what you like). Only your own mistaken ideas of being the democratic, leader of the free world and all that nonsense. It's not like you did anything to course correct at any point (fight colonialism, endless war for profit etc.).
Again, I'll reiterate: Try to see the "other guy's (or gal's) perspective". That's the only advice I have to the vast majority of westoids at this point.

>>2728691
Might as well join the race war then

>>2728697
Can't say I get your meaning. Just a vague notion that the point is not being understood.
You are (presumed) US-american. You are the enemy of the world.
You must be beaten back by whatever means for the world to (have a chance to) live.

>>2728710
I just go to work like any prole, if that makes me ontologically evil than there’s no point doing anything

>>2728713
Not ontologically (do you even know what that means). Statistically, in the aggregate. We live in the real world.

>>2728716
The bombs are never reaching here and if they did, they would be from western governments anyway

>>2728664
Russian media pundits usually support anyone who is opposed to the EU support of Ukraine. That's why they flip flop between ideologies/parties so much

>>2728669
>AfD is objectively less Nazi than CDU, SPD, and especially German Greens
wtf are u talkin about, Jesse

>Can you explain this bullshit Ziggers?
Easy: The AfD is not a pro-Putin party. They support German re-armament and ratified Finnish and Swedish accession to NATO for example. I am sorry but you fell for the German version of Russia-gate.

>>2728713
>>2728716
evil is typically understood as non-being, not a being unto itself, hence why an aesthetics or ethics of evil most often fails, for it contradicts evil's negativity.

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>>2728721
Again, I don't know what is lost in translation here. Who's bombing who?
Then build a bomb, I don't know. Kill a soldier, cop. Something.
Sometimes one must do things themselves. Take destiny in your own hands, yes?
But really, I have not been trying to tell you what to do. I don't think that's gonna be fruitful, besides. I have simply been trying to explain a different perspective. Or the very idea of the existence of a different perspective.
>>2728730
The "problem of evil" is between you and your god.
Personally, not much of a believer.

>>2728733
The weather underground did all that, it didn’t work, nothing works, settler states are invincible

>>2728733
one cannot be evil, but only lacking in virtue, thats the point. to be is to be good, for being is good. so then, "ontological evil" is a contradictory notion.

>>2728737
Nothing is invincible. Nothing is eternal. Everything that arises, passes away.
More importantly, or concretely, these systems are man-made. Everything made by humans can be unmade by the same.
>>2728743
>being is good
On what basis? Being is being. But that really is beside the point.

>>2728749
being is good because it is necessary.
further, what is best of a thing is what is most in it.
the pure is better than the impure etc.

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>>2728755
Sure, why not. I don't know. Does it matter?

>>2728664
>supports Nazi AFD party in Germany
One of the reason why I loathe Putin. He openly funds rightoids in my country. Anti-fascism for us but nazis for you.

>>2728749
No settler state has ever been destroyed, even in Zimbabwe the remaining whites own all the economic assets in the country

>>2728769
I dunno, Algeria? You hear very little about that place these days.
But in any case the difference between destroyed and transformed is also depending on perspective.

Go away third worldists. Your shitty nations are capitalist as well, and the fact that your countries too weak to be effectively imperialist* doesn't give you any moral standing.

*and this is inaccurate as well, as many third world countries regularly bully ones weaker than them

>>2728769
You would need socialism to get rid of agricultural bourgeoisie and not just land owners.

>>2728783
Socialism is impossible though

>>2728785
In Zimbabwe this is economical reality that they have to live with. But im not so sure about modern 1st world AI economy.

>>2728796
Bro we’re not gonna have potable water or breathable air in 10 years, this whole idea of capitalism being progressive is bunk, it’s an evolutionary dead end


>>2728804
Chagos

Cha ( g ) os

G in Chaos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G_factor_(psychometrics)

>The g factor is a construct developed in psychometric investigations of cognitive abilities and human intelligence. It is a variable that summarizes positive correlations among different cognitive tasks


IntelliGence in Chaos. I know what you are.

>>2728799
>Bro we’re not gonna have potable water or breathable air in 10 years,
Maybe you live close to Sahara. Take your climate schizo pills.

>>2728816
The oceans are going to be dead THIS YEAR

>>2728817
>Fell for the environmentalist scam
99% of the world's water is not safe for drinking. We just have to invest massive amounts into desalination tech and we can unlock a 99% boost in our drinking supply. The Earth can support at least another 50 billion humans. Don't fall for retarded Club of Rome lies.

>>2728823
You’re going to be my slave when Yukon and Siberia are the only arable land and everyone is fighting for a latifundia plantation there

>>2728824

1) Stratospheric Aerosol Injection of SO2 can effectively reverse global warming, giving us plenty of time to decarbonize

2) Ultra cheap solar + storage + wind unlocks infinite water via desalination and infinite food via hydroponics and aeroponics

3) Population growth is slowing down while resource efficiency increases, recycling and new technologies are being developed at an accelerated scale.

>>2728833
Oil corporations aren’t going to allow that

>>2728833
So2 might be necessary but it has severe downsides the sea will still acidify and it will kill rain patterns
We are running out if time for a good solution

>>2728669
From what i understand lukewarm Strasserites such as Höcke and Chrupalla represent a minority inside the AfD. For now they are useful because they're good at baiting East German workers into voting AfD, however they may get purged by the western bourgeois neocon/reactionary zionist types, who are indistinguishable from Merz and his ilk, at any point.

>>2728850
The solution is to scale back all production and technology and reintroduce feudal and oriental social relations, modes of production which take 1000s of years to do the type of damage that capitalism does in a generation

>>2728824
Bro I'm going to move to China on an English teacher visa. Enjoy killing each other over in your Western Garden of Eden paradise because your governments are too retarded and corrupt to help the common man. The CCP will provide for me.

>>2728859
You will never be chinese, even if they tolerate your presence you’ll never be one of them, you’ll never be a citizen, and you’ll be hanged if you try to marry one of their daughters and rightfully so

>>2728864
I don't care about not being a citizen. Being allowed to live there is good enough. And I don't care about getting married either women these days are crazy. I'll be happier living under a socialist dictatorship than any country in the West. The West is completely batshit insane. Unlimited capitalism + crazy people = hell on earth.


>>2728877
China is dependent on the west, married at the hip, if they stop sending their cheap crap to Walmart their trotskyite system falls apart in a week

>>2728894
Uyghur were you living under a rock when Trump tried to wreck China with tariffs? Exports to the US could hit zero and they'd still be fine.

Climatetards have been dooming for over a decade by now, it's always two more weeks before the climate god descends and kill us all.

Not saying it's not a real problem and a massive one, but I've grown skeptical of the "cataclysm SOON" predictions after all these years on /leftypol/

>>2728925
That was all fake, all pro wrestling kayfabe

>>2728931
>TORlord

>>2728931
I could literally stab you repeatedly and you would say
> doesn’t matter, you didn’t hit my vitals

>>2728933
>retardlord

>>2728931
This. Kek I remember being taught in school that we would run out of fish and fishing stocks would collapse and no one would ever eat seafood ever again. Then when I entered the workforce they were already talking about creating fish farms and I realized that just like how we could breed livestock we could also breed fish and the capitalists were just brainwashing the youth into doomerism and pessimism. Insane.

>>2728939
Fish farming is even worse, when they escape their cages they eat everything, worse than feral pigs

>>2728931
i'm also the same with all the predictions of the collapse of the US empire. In history there's been way too many times when empires have come bounding back, while people were dooming about collapse.

>>2728669
This, by virtue of not being pro Azov they’re objectively the anti-imperialist option

>>2728833
>Stratospheric Aerosol Injection of SO2
yeah if you consider acidic rain and boom of respiratory disease is worth it, theres a reason we stopped that shit, its killing us and the environment even faster than climate change

>>2728986

You can just google SAI and read multiple peer reviewed papers that show that those affects will NOT be a problem given the SO2 concentrations and altitudes of the process.

We're not belching our SO2 like a 19th century coal power plant, we',re releasing very low concentrations of aerosol 30 km up in the atmosphere where there isn't even any water vapour to form acid rain. The aerosol spreads all across the globe and gradually descends while reducing its concentration to such a low level, it's barely measurable in the atmosphere.

>>2728664
Oh shit, a jpeg. Ziggers BTFO.

>>2728683
Yeah pretty much.

>>2728723
Are you not familiar with German politics at all? The German Greens used to be the peace party… back in the 80s. In the second half of the 90s they transformed into the most belligerent party by far. They now always strike this rhetorical pose about any topic: "We love peace, but now we are basically facing da new Hitler, and so we decided to support this military intervention with great Bauchschmerzen." Bauchschmerzen is the German term for "tummy ache". And this is a standard term now in German politics thanks to the greens. You say that whenever you vote to do something fucked up, but you are still like resisting somewhat, in your mind, and that makes you a moral person.

>>2728854
>From what i understand lukewarm Strasserites such as Höcke and Chrupalla represent a minority inside the AfD.
There are definitely fascists in the party, but I agree that the AfD as a whole is not a fascist party.

>>2728669
>fascist party is less fascist than milquetoast socdem party
leftoids will never learn

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>>2728710
>You are (presumed) US-american. You are the enemy of the world … You must be beaten back by whatever means for the world to (have a chance to) live.
That's fine but I think you will continue to be disappointed by Putin because I don't think he actually sees the world that way either and might see some commonality of interest with Trump vis-a-vis Europe. Get the AfD and Le Pen et al. into power to make deals with both sides while reducing U.S. military committments and strengthening European military spending to create a sort of "balance of power" between Europe and Russia. It's fine.

>>2729091
While not totally wrong, that's really not what I am driving at. I know Putin is angling for that. Get along with the western partners and whatnot. He will just be disappointed if he still thinks that will materialize. So Putin works in spite of himself on the "right side". The EU is a barking dog. They will not achieve independence before the US is diminished. Either ameriKKKa or EVropa getting hit back is fine. It's all good, indeed.

>>2729039
For clarification, those in the AfD who are considered fascist by MSM, i.e. the "patriots" and "nationalists" around Höcke et al., actually appear the least fascist and dangerous to working class interests to me, despite the optics. I would agree with other posters ITT that in contemporary German politics (as well as in EU politics) the real fascist menace lies in the old bourgeois west-german, liberal-conservative "center" parties. CDU, Greens, FDP, SPD and at least half of the AfD are essentially one bourgeois neocon/reactoid party at this point in terms of political agenda, they merely differ in name and colors they use for advertising.

>>2728799
You are a climate demoralising faggot. Millions will die. The struggle will go on. The Communist is sturdy like an oak.

>>2728664
Mods permaban op for using a racist slur RIGHT THE FUCKING NOW!!! DO IT NOW!!!

>>2728799
Yeah? And?

>>2729132
Yeah the next dominant species will achieve communism if not humans. Communism is not about humanity its about communism

>>2729125
If only Cucktin gave the BSW 11 billion euros of extra funding like he did with the AFD. Sadly Russia likes funding nationalist morons so Germany is screwed.

>>2729143
Maybe you'd already be GenSec of the All-German Communist Volksrepublik.
If they gave all that to you, personally, you'd have become bigger than Jesus, or Hitler at least.


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