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https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1908/mec/five2.htm

In discussing the "new" (in 1908) physics, Lenin makes a profound philosophical prediction: "The electron is as inexhaustible as the atom." This suggests that nature is infinite in its depth, and human knowledge will always have new levels of reality to discover.

Lenin said

> The electron is as inexhaustible as the atom, nature is infinite, but it infinitely exists. And it is this sole categorical, this sole unconditional recognition of nature’s existence outside the mind and perception of man that distinguishes dialectical materialism from relativist agnosticism and idealism.


He said also

>The error of Machism in general, as of the Machian new physics, is that it ignores this basis of philosophical materialism and the distinction between metaphysical materialism and dialectical materialism. The recognition of immutable elements, “of the immutable substance of things,” and so forth, is not materialism, but metaphysical, i.e., anti-dialectical, materialism. That is why J. Dietzgen emphasised that the “subject-matter of science is endless,” that not only the in finite, but the “smallest atom” is immeasurable, unknowable to the end, inexhaustible, “for nature in all her parts has no beginning and no end

>>2733449
Yeah? And?

>>2733461
Lenin was right


https://www.vaildaily.com/news/from-flash-to-fertilizer-how-lightning-feeds-plants/
>This release of energy not only balances the cloud’s electrical charge but also breaks apart nitrogen molecules in the atmosphere. Approximately 78% of Earth’s atmosphere is composed of nitrogen gas, a form unusable by plants. When a cloud releases a lightning bolt, the heat and energy split atmospheric nitrogen.
>This allows it to combine with oxygen to form nitrogen compounds, which are carried down by rain. This process, called nitrogen fixation, turns nitrogen gas into compounds plants can use. On average, lightning fixes 3-10 teragrams of nitrogen per year over the Earth. That’s like the weight of over half a million elephants.
>By converting atmospheric nitrogen into plant nutrients, lightning plays a vital role in sustaining ecosystems and agricultural growth.
Spring is looming, stay indoors and watch it (God's Creation) turn green as his infinite dialectics of nature creation a voltage potential difference that eventually creates an arc down to a lower entropy state

>>2733556
Praise be to LAWD GAWD! HALLELUJAH!!!

>>2733556
Cool! Awesome! Nifty! Damn! Dayum! So cool man!

How is this useful or relevant? How does it relieve poverty or cure disease?

>>2733885
you are a moron

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>>2733885
>how does science relieve poverty or cure disease

put the crack pipe down

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>>2733900
Any science that isn’t immediately practical is masturbation

>>2733908
meta-science is important to remove human bias, you're just a retarded anti-intellectual elitist no one cares

>>2733908
Why are you so insecure of people smarter than you?

>>2733908
> immediately practical
that never happens, moron
science is not for impulsive animals like you

>>2733908
That's a really silly thing to say anon.

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>>2733910
Until every child is fed, everyone has a job, and imperialism is defeated forever I don’t wanna hear about anything subatomic, outer space, or the deep ocean

>>2734135
Absolute moron

>>2734135
My dude that's really fucking dumb and you should feel bad for being so fucking stupid.

>>2734135
OK nechayev, that can be arranged. but you also aren't allowed to do anything fun until that time comes either

>>2734135
better understanding those things may along with revolution enable us to achieve those goals. it's called scientific socialism for a reason.

>>2734135
all these things help socialists kill better - subatomic = energy, nuclear arms, outer space = better understanding of missile trajectory (ICBM) deep ocean = better understanding of how to use naval systems.

I think you might just be a contrarian.

>>2734135
Based beyond belief

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>>2734208
I'll wait for it to move beyond just a paper status.

>>2734135
>He doesn't like atom bombs, laser death satellites and submarines that kill porkies
Brainlet fr

>>2734208
we've already known about zpf for decades the first tweet is just cope. i do think zero point energy might be the future eventually tho but it is a long ways away

>>2734135

Curiosity are hallmarks not just of humanity, but all mammals. And humanity has applied that to discovering the world around us.
If it wasn't for science, we'd still be trying to cure disease by balancing biles and phlegm. We wouldn't that Venus is a planet and not a lovely woman. We wouldn't have agriculture or the technology you used to write your unhinged luddite comment.

How do you expect for us to continue to feed a growing world without continuing to advance the means of which to do so?

Ok this is cool but Lenin was just making a philosophical prediction which doesn't actually mean all that much. He was not a natural scientist and though I agree with him, and especially with his criticism of Machism, we don't actually know. Don't mix up philosophy with physics. You can't start defining reality based on your ideas.

>>2734135
HOLY FVCKING BVSED

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>>2734147
It’s called having priorities, both “art for art’s sake” and “science for science’s sake” are bourgeois notions, science has to be subordinated to ethics and political objectives or it will reproduce the horrors of eugenics, lobotomies, and phrenology

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>>2734384
Idle curiosity in an emergency situation means certain death

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>>2733561
>GAWD
Genocidal
Abrahamic
War
Deity

>>2734496
It is called "fundamental research" sweaty

>>2733908
sometimes the practicality of a given scientific discovery is not known immediately, but turns out to be incredibly useful.

The earliest device that could possibly qualify as a primitive steam engine was invented by Heron of Alexandria in the 1st century CE.

Prime Numbers in mathematics were studied since ancient Greek mathematicians like Euclid around 300 BCE purely for theoretical interest. Thousands of years later they became essential for modern cryptography, including RSA encryption used on the internet.

Electromagnetic waves were predicted by James Clerk Maxwell in the 1860s and experimentally confirmed by Heinrich Hertz in 1887. At the time, they seemed like a physics curiosity. Later they became the foundation for radio, television, radar, Wi-Fi, and mobile communications.

Quantum mechanis was developed in the early 20th century by scientists such as Max Planck and Erwin Schrödinger. Initially it was seen as very abstract, but today it underpins semiconductors, lasers, and MRI scanners.

General relativity was proposed by Albert Einstein in 1915 as a theory of gravity. It seemed purely theoretical, but today GPS satellites must account for relativistic time effects to provide accurate navigation.

>>2734586
What part of “WE ARE IN A FUCKING EMERGENCY” don’t you understand?

>>2734496
is/ought fallacy. there are no ethics in bourgeois society except bourgeois ethics. the ruling ideas are the ideas of the ruling class. science will continue to be performed for their benefit until a revolution, and only after a revolution will you be able to subordinate science to proletarian interests instead of bourgeois interests. But until then you are not going to stop people who work in science from performing science. They aren't going to quit their jobs for you. That's naive.

>>2734595
They need to be killed

>>2734591
ok i will stop doing all science until le revolushun

>>2734596
do it then

>>2734135
Don't forget about housing, my fellow treatlerite.


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