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Stalin
>The struggle that the Emir of Afghanistan is waging for the independence of Afghanistan is objectively a revolutionary struggle, despite the monarchist views of the Emir and his associates, for it weakens, disintegrates and undermines imperialism; whereas the struggle waged by such "desperate" democrats and "Socialists," "revolutionaries" and republicans as, for example, Kerensky and Tsereteli, Renaudel and Scheidemann, Chernov and Dan, Henderson and Clynes, during the imperialist war was a reactionary struggle, for its results was the embellishment, the strengthening, the victory, of imperialism.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1924/foundations-leninism/ch06.htm

Trotsky
>In Brazil there now reigns a semifascist regime that every revolutionary can only view with hatred. Let us assume, however, that on the morrow England enters into a military conflict with Brazil. I ask you on whose side of the conflict will the working class be? I will answer for myself personally—in this case I will be on the side of “fascist” Brazil against “democratic” Great Britain. Why? Because in the conflict between them it will not be a question of democracy or fascism. If England should be victorious, she will put another fascist in Rio de Janeiro and will place double chains on Brazil. If Brazil on the contrary should be victorious, it will give a mighty impulse to national and democratic consciousness of the country and will lead to the overthrow of the Vargas dictatorship.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1938/09/liberation.htm

What

Stalin and Trotsky tongue my anus. neither Brazil or Afghanistan achieved socialism and US imperialism is stronger than ever, History proved their thesis wrong

Iran is going to lose btw.

>>2737925
Have you achieved getting out of your armchair yet?

>>2737925
>Iran is going to lose btw.
Delusional

>>2737931
Why should he?
>>2737932
Nah it’s you who is delusional, Zionists hold all the cards

>>2737931
I know you want ot have your silly little revenge on me, but this conversation isn't about me.

>>2737932
Iran has no way to stop US nuclear arsenal. In an all out war Iran wwould get nuked into glass. Us communists don't see geopoliticss as a hella epic HOI4 session.

>>2737937
the dissunited ssnakkkess of crackkkmerikkka lost
the sstate of pissrakkkell lost
the antiimperialist iZlamic repvblic of iran vvon
paleZtine won

>>2737937
>US nuclear arsenal
will never be used

>>2737937
>hella epic HOI4 session
why are paradox games so popular? they seem like total dogshit

>>2737943
Because they won't need to, Because Iran sits alone and non-nuclear arsenal will be more than enough

>>2737942
make sure you print your mantras and plaster them along your "Live, Love Laugh" wallpaper!

>>2737943
It’s already been used twice in war, dozens of times in pacific and indian land

>>2737953
>It’s already been used twice in war
and it won't happen again
>>2737952
>non-nuclear arsenal will be more than enough
enough for what?

>>2737960
Another First Gulf-War-tier steamroll

>>2737960
It will happen and Israel will use it, there will be no repercussions because international law does not exist, has never existed, and will never exist. Much like communism, it’s an impossibility and an idealist dream.

>>2737963
You know Iran is a natural fortress fighting on its own territory right, no white man is Ghengis Kahn

>>2737963
when will the steamroll begin exactly?
>>2737965
>It will happen and Israel will use it
when, how and why

>>2737971
When they choose and because they can, no white man (yugoslav and germans don’t count) will ever be on trial for war crimes

>>2737967
>You know Iran is a natural fortress fighting on its own territory right
utterly irrelevant in the era of supersonic stealth jets

>no white man is Ghengis Kahn

how cute, he believes racialism will magically stop imperialism

>>2737971
>when will the steamroll begin exactly?
it already has

>>2737978
Genghis Kahn got to where he was because he was intelligent enough to exploit differences and fractures already present in the Sunni dynasty he conquered, not because he was Mongol, it’s because he wasn’t decadent, westerners today are all decadent

>>2737978
>it already has
why are islamists still in power and why is the strait of hormuz still closed then?
if this is a steamroll how would a blunder by the US even look like?
>>2737975
>When they choose and because they can
why haven't they used it already then?

>>2737995
Because they aren’t bored yet

>>2737995
>why are islamists still in power and why is the strait of hormuz still closed then?
because historical development doesn't happen overnight

Remind me again who is in charge of Venezuela

>>2737985
>moralism will stop imperialism!
fucking lmao!

>>2738007
>because historical development doesn't happen overnight
ok so its two more weeks until the steamrolling starts

>>2738009
It’s the difference between your first drink of the night and your tenth, not a moral distinction

>>2738010
How many weeks have passed since Maduro was kidnapped and Venezuuela was forced to open their market to foreign capitalists?

>>2737937
Retatd the USisrael can't use nuclear arsenal since the UE with French nukes + China + Russia would strike them back in revenge

>>2738022
I could literally execute a Chinaman’s family in front of him and he would beg me to buy the ammo do it with from walmart since that’s where he works

>>2738022
Why would any of those countries risk getting nuked? China wants cheap oil and I bet they care more about feeding their population than avenging the reactionary Islamic republic of Iran, the EU cares only about being able to fund boomer pensions and importing as much labor force. Russia benefits from the dissolution of the Gulf state oil export model.

>>2738039
>Why would any of those countries risk getting nuked?
They know the republican administration is tyrannical, fascistic and must be opposed. They are morally good countries that do not consent to war crimes and imperialism

>They are morally good countries that do not consent to war crimes and imperialism

>>2738045
>retard ultra bites the obvious bait
flood

>>2738057
He was just laffin

>>2738059
we know people here believe that

>>2738073
Admit you are retarded and apologize

>>2737914
Not OP but both quotes from Stalin and Trotsky respectively show that "regimes" which are "reactionary" from a first world bourgeois standpoint of "spreading democracy" (subordinating the periphery to imperialism) are, in the final analysis, still worthy of critical support by Communists, because they attack imperialism, like Iran is doing right now.

Lenin has many similar quotes, in particular about "oppressed nations." Some will complain that these quotes are "out of context" but I assure you that if they are read in context they support the conclusions made above.

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>>2737925
>Stalin and Trotsky tongue my anus.
based and islampilled

>>2738099
And Lenin was wrong, simple as

>>2738103
>simple as
that might be convincing enough for you, but others will desire a combination of explanation and evidence.

>>2738109
How about observing reality around you? That much proves lenin, Marx, and all the rest of your ilk wrong

>>2738116
Who is right then? Adolf Hitler?

>>2738144
No it’s ayatollah Khomeini

>>2737925
And how has history proved the thesis of leftcommunism?

>>2738099
such concepts were made under a different paradigm, in which liberal democracy wasn't common, in which capitalism hadn't yet developed, there's marx quotes about england possibly being the first country to get communism by the ballot, which as far as i know, hasn't happened yet, we simply live in a different time than "subordinate country gets invaded by an imperialist nation requires that we "support" the subordinate nation"

>>2738149
how has history proven the value of mauritian social democracy?

>>2737925
>US imperialism is stronger than ever
lol ok retard

the guy is not even a leftcom, he is an obvious glowie/troll, just insult him, report him and move on

>>2738109
You do bot need evidence to dismiss a statement, the statement itself need to be backed by evidence in the first place, and history has given no such thing

phew, I almost, almost reply to chagos

>>2738163
an objective analisis of cuurrent geopolitics doesn't mean I support it, retard

>Leftcom retard deeply fears the Chagos
makes sense

>>2738199
put the trip back on, cunt

>>2738202
>Everyone that disagrees with me is the same person
a sign of low intelligence tbh

Chagos literally tongues my anus, Chagos wouldn't last 15 minutes in a debate

>>2738211
you just suck off the most annoying cunt on this website, i'd prefer even iron felix or the "weather radars are used to strike palestinian children" sandanista flag, over him

>>2738213
His limp wrists would snap from firing a gun in any caliber larger than .22 or .17HMR

>>2738213
Yet you shiver and quake in his presence, not even daring to (You) him. I can only conclude you are posturing to hide your fear

>>2738237
The fact he infuriates your retarded ass is exactly why I like him

Leftcoms are America's strongest soldiers. They battle hard against people who oppose us imperialism

>>2738213
i don't like chagos but you instantly turned me into the most fervent supporter simply because you are the most retarded and annoying poster on the entire site

>>2738310
Your tongue -> USA-Israel's anus
tt

>>2738310
>Wahwah
that's what I thought

>>2738353
No one mentioned guitar pedals you retard

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>Khomeini strongly opposed Marxism. `Atheistic Marxists` were the one group he excluded from the broad coalition of anti-Shah groups he worked to rally behind his leadership.[84] In his last will and testament, he urged future generations to respect property on the grounds that free enterprise turns the `wheels of the economy` and prosperity would produce `social justice` for all, including the poor.

>Islam differs sharply from communism. Whereas we respect private property, communism advocates the sharing of all things – including wives and homosexuals.[85][86]


>What one scholar (Ervand Abrahamian) called the populist thrust of Khomeini can be found in the fact that after the revolution, revolutionary tribunals expropriated "agribusinesses, large factories, and luxury homes belonging to the former elite," but were careful to avoid "challenging the concept of private property."[87]


>Olivier Roy writes that Khomeini did "extoll" Shiism and saw a special role for the Shi'a, but not one of privilege. He thought of Shia, "the way Marx thought of the proletariat: a particular group that brings about the emancipation of all humanity," by leading a revolution to form a new world order.[180]


>Despite commonalities between the Islamic Republic and Marxist thought and practice – Iran nationalized many of its industries, strongly denounced foreign intervention of capitalist powers, shared anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist rhetoric (even borrowing imagery from Marxists),[199][note 4] while Iran's Tudeh (Communist) party saw itself as part of "a front of cooperation … for popular support of the anti-imperialist revolution of February 1979"before its membership was imprisoned – Khomeini was "anti-Marxist",[201] and did not follow the Marxist economic analysis of capitalism being the cause of imperialism, and socialism its cure. Even before taking power, Khomeini attacked the Iranian left, claiming that the Tudeh party was cooperating with the shah, accusing Marxists of planning "to stab Muslims in the back, and denounced Russia as a greedy superpower".[202]


>Khomeini believed Islam would replace both capitalism and communism:


>`We have often proclaimed this truth in our domestic and foreign policy, namely that we have set as our goal the world-wide spread of the influence of Islam and the suppression of the rule of the world conquerors … We wish to cause the corrupt roots of Zionism, capitalism and Communism to wither throughout the world. We wish, as does God almighty, to destroy the systems which are based on these three foundations, and to promote the Islamic order of the Prophet … in the world of arrogance.[171][172][173][174]


>Khomeini strongly opposed alliances with, or imitation of, Eastern (communist) and Western Bloc (capitalist) nations. The slogan "Neither East nor West", meant not only opposition to the two superpower blocs, but also keeping Iran and Islam uncontaminated by their ideas and ideologies.


>In our domestic and foreign policy, … we have set as our goal the world-wide spread of the influence of Islam … We wish to cause the corrupt roots of Zionism, capitalism and Communism to wither throughout the world. We wish, as does God almighty, to destroy the systems which are based on these three foundations, and to promote the Islamic order of the Prophet …[198][172][173][174]


>While the Imam was sometimes flexible over doctrine, changing positions on divorce, music, birth control,[148] he was much less accommodating with those he believed to be the enemies of Islam. Khomeini emphasized not only righteous militancy and rage but hatred,


And I am confident that the Iranian people, particularly our youth, will keep alive in their hearts anger and hatred for the criminal Soviet Union and the warmongering United States. This must be until the banner of Islam flies over every house in the world.[149]

Thoughts

>>2738358
Which is why it's weird you brought it up out of nowhere

>KHOMENEI LETTER TO GORBACHEV


A Call to Divine Unity: Letter of Imam Khomeini to President Mikhail Gorbachev
Sayyid Ruhullah Musawi Khomeini
Foreword
The Letter
The Institute for Compilation and Publication of Imam Khomeini’s Works
22 minutes
read
The Letter
Letter of Imam Khomeini,

The Great Leader of the Islamic Revolution and Founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran,

To President Mikhail Gorbachev, Leader of the Soviet Union

In the Name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful

Your Excellency Mr. Gorbachev1, Chairman of the Presidium of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

With due wishes for the happiness and prosperity of Your Excellency and the people of the Soviet Union.

Since your assumption of office there has been the impression that Your Excellency, in analyzing world political events, particularly those pertaining to the Soviet Union, have found yourself in a new era of reassessment, change, and confrontation; and your boldness and initiative in dealing with the realities of the world is quite likely to bring about changes that would result in upsetting the equations of power dominating the world. I have therefore found it necessary to bring certain matters to your attention.

Even if your new approach and decisions are merely used as a means to overcome the party crisis, and to solve some of the problems confronting your people, your courage in reappraising a school of thought that has for decades enchained the revolutionary youth of the world behind its iron curtain is indeed worthy of praise. If, however, you are considering taking a further step forward, the first thing that will ensure your success is that you re-evaluate your predecessors’ policy of obliterating God and religion from society2, a policy that has no doubt given the heaviest blow to the Soviet people. Rest assured that this is the only way whereby world problems can be dealt with realistically.

Viewing Islam as a remnant of the pre-socialist stage, Marxists took two major approaches to confront it: to wipe out Islam as an alien element from the scene of public life by openly challenging it, and to assimilate Islam into Russian society by Russianizing Muslims. Stalin, the most notorious of all communist leaders, persecuted Muslims on a large scale by banishing certain Muslim peoples collectively to Siberia and Asia Minor. The astonishing number of Russian anti- religious publications distributed in Islamic countries is part of the Soviet government’s universal struggle against Islam. The occupation of Afghanistan was the Soviet Union’s last attempt to penetrate the Islamic world.

Of course it is possible that as a result of wrong economic policies of former communist authorities, the Western world, an illusory heaven, will appear to be fascinating; but the truth lies elsewhere. If you hope, at this juncture, to cut the economic Gordian knots of socialism and communism by appealing to the center of Western capitalism, you will, far from remedying any ill of your society, commit a mistake which those to come will have to erase. For, if Marxism has come to a deadlock in its social and economic policies, capitalism has also bogged down, in this as well as in other respects though in a different form.

Mr. Gorbachev,

Reality must be faced. The main problem confronting your country is not one of private ownership, freedom and economy; your problem is the absence of true faith in God, the very problem that has dragged, or will drag, the West to vulgarism and an impasse. Your main problem is the prolonged and futile war you have waged against God, the source of existence and creation.

Mr. Gorbachev,

It is clear to everybody that from now on communism will only have to be found in the museums of world political history, for Marxism cannot meet any of the real needs of mankind. Marxism is a materialistic ideology and materialism cannot bring humanity out of the crisis caused by a lack of belief in spirituality—the prime affliction of the human society in the East and the West alike.

Mr. Gorbachev,

You may have not in theory turned your back on certain aspects of Marxism—and may continue to profess your heartfelt loyalty to it in interviews—but you know that, in practice, the reality is not so. The leader of China3 struck the first blow to communism and you have
struck the second and, apparently, final blow. Today we have no such thing as communism in the world.

I earnestly call on you, however, not to get trapped, while tearing down the walls of Marxist illusions, in the prison of the West and the Great Satan.4 I hope you will attain the honor of removing the decayed layers of 70-year communist aberration from the face of history and of your country. Today those allies of yours that are genuinely concerned about their homelands and people are no longer willing to sacrifice their subterranean and surface resources to keep alive the myth of the success of communism—an ideology whose din of collapse has already reached the ears of their children.

Mr. Gorbachev,

When after 70 years the call, “Allah is Great” and the testimony to the prophethood of the Seal of the Prophets, Muhammad (peace be upon him and his posterity) were heard from the minarets of the mosques in some of your Republics, all the followers of the pure Muhammadan Islam were moved to tears out of ecstasy.

Therefore, I have found it necessary to remind you to reflect once again on the materialistic and theistic worldviews. Materialists consider sense to be the sole criterion of knowledge and are of the opinion that whatever cannot be known through the senses falls outside the realm of knowledge. They identify existence with matter and consider as nonexistent anything that has no material body. Inevitably, they regard the world of the unseen—God Almighty, Divine Revelation, Prophethood, and the Resurrection—as mere fiction.

On the other hand, theists consider both sense and reason to be the criteria of knowledge, and maintain that whatever can be known through reason lies within the realm of knowledge, although it is not perceptible. To theists, therefore, existence is inclusive of both the unseen and the manifest. For a thing to exist it is not necessary to have a material body. In the same way that a material thing depends on an incorporeal thing,5 sensory perception is dependent on rational perception.6

The Holy Qur’an reprobates the fundamentals of materialistic thought and, addressing those who say:

“We shall never believe in thee until we see God manifestly,”7

proclaims:

“Vision comprehends Him not, and He comprehends all vision; and He is the Knower of subtleties, the Aware.”8

I should not like to present here Qur’anic arguments concerning Divine Revelation, Prophethood and the Resurrection which from your point of view are debatable. In fact, I do not wish to entangle you in the twists and turns of philosophical arguments, particularly those of Islamic philosophy. I will content myself by presenting one or two simple, intuitive examples of which even politicians can avail themselves.

It is self-evident that matter, whatever its nature, has no awareness of self. Consider a stone statue: each side is ignorant of the other side. Whereas human beings and animals clearly observe and are aware of their surroundings. They know where they are and are aware of what goes on around them. There must be, then, an element in men and animals that transcends matter and is separate from it, living beyond the life of matter.

Intrinsically, man seeks to attain absolute perfection. He strives, as you well know, for absolute power over the world; he is not attached to any power that is defective. If he has the entire world at his command, he naturally feels inclined to have command of another world once he is informed of its existence. No matter how learned a person may be if he learns of some other branch of knowledge, he naturally feels inclined to attain mastery of that branch of knowledge as well.

Therefore, there must be some Absolute Power and Absolute Knowledge to which man is attached. It is God we all seek although we may not be aware of it. Man strives to attain Absolute Truth, so that he may be annihilated in God. Basically, the desire for eternal life that is inherent in every individual is proof of the existence of an Eternal World to which destruction cannot find its way.

Should Your Excellency desire further information on these matters, you may command those scholars of yours who are well-versed in this field to study, in addition to the works of Western philosophers, the writings of Peripatetic philosophers9, al-Farabi10 and Avicenna,11

peace be upon them. It will then become clear that the law of causation on which all knowledge depends is a rational, not sensible law. Likewise, perception of general laws and concepts on which all reasoning rests is reached not by means of sensory experience but through rational argument.12 Your scholars may further refer to the Ishraqi13 theosophy of Suhrawardi,14 and explain to you that the flesh, as well as any other material thing, is in need of Pure Light which has no material entity, that man’s witnessing of his own truth does not take place by means of any sense organ.15 You may also have the scholars familiarize themselves with Transcendental philosophy16 of Mulla Sadra 17(may Allah be pleased with him and resurrect him with the prophets and the pious), so that it may become clear that the nature of knowledge is different from the nature of matter and that intellect, far removed from matter, cannot be restricted by the laws governing matter.

I won’t tire you further by mentioning the works of mystics, in particular Muhyi’d-Din ibn al-‘Arabi.18 If you wish to make yourself acquainted with the doctrines of this celebrated mystic, send a number of your brilliant scholars, who are well-versed in this field, to Qum19 so that, by reliance on God, they may, after a couple of years, glimpse the depth of the delicate stages of gnosis,20 which will be impossible for them to acquire without making such a journey.

Mr. Gorbachev,

After mentioning these problems and preliminary points, let me call on you to study Islam earnestly, not because Islam and the Muslims may need you but because Islam has exalted universal values which can bring comfort and salvation to all nations and remove the basic problems of mankind. A true understanding of Islam may forever release you from the problem of Afghanistan21 and other similar involvements. We treat Muslims of the world as Muslims of our own country and will ever share in their destiny.

By granting certain liberties to some of your Republics in matters pertaining to religious practices, you have shown that you no longer consider religion as the “opium of the people.”22 Indeed, how can Islam be the opium of the people—the religion that has made Iranians as firm as a mountain against superpowers? Is the religion that seeks the administration of justice in the world and man’s freedom from material and spiritual shackles, the opium of the people? Only that religion is the opium of the people that causes the material and spiritual resources of Islamic and non-Islamic countries to pass into the clutches of super and lesser powers and that preaches that religion is separate from politics. This, however, cannot be called a true religion; it is what our people call “an American religion.”

In conclusion, I declare outright that the Islamic Republic of Iran as the greatest and most powerful base of the Islamic world can easily fill the vacuum of religious faith in your society. In any case, our country, as in the past, honors good neighborhood and bilateral relations.

Peace be upon those who follow the guidance.23

Ruhullah al-Musawi al-Khomeini
67/10/11 AHS
[January 1, 1989]

https://al-islam.org/call-divine-unity-letter-imam-khomeini-president-mikhail-gorbachev-sayyid-ruhullah-musawi-khomeini-1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khomeini%27s_letter_to_Mikhail_Gorbachev

Thoughts


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