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>adopts a market economy
>immediately begins to develop
Idk how anyone can still be a stalinist in 2026 when stalinist centrally-planned economies simply dont work and only produce dysfunctional shitholes.
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>>2740849
Liberal economy

>>2740857
British did that first

>>2740861
Neither Napoleon or LatAm Caudillos were Bri'ish

>>2740864
Argentines are crypto brits

>>2740865
What???? Argentinians are Italians

>>2740819
>>2740812
There is no such thing as mixed economy. China is Communist because working people control all raw materials.
>>2740814
You are bourgeois imperialist sexual deviant. Stop sexually harrassing me. You are epstein.
>>2740857
Read stalin theory on socialist commodity production.

>Read Stalin
Kill yourself

>>2740870
You wish I was epstein, I’m worse, you’ll beg for your death

>>2740856
Chinese Jews control the CCP btw

>>2740885
Who cares, same is true of the KMT and the DPP

>>2740871
You really are a fascist

>>2740885
Chinese jews sodomize your mother every night.

I love when people in these leftypol threads drop all pretense of being communists and embrace capitalism. It happens pretty fast lately.

China is revisionist. I support them but let's not beat around the bush and pretend they're Marxist-Leninist like they say they are.

>>2741010
oh yeah they went from 12 weeks of life expectancy to the biggest industrial power in the known universe but hey, they're not true marxist-leninist, who cares about labels motherfucker i wanna ride bullet trains not be in your stupid imaginary boys club of pure communists

>>2741019
Hello LasSalle

>>2741019
>the biggest industrial power in the known universe
Liberal tier accomplishment

>>2741021
You are proudhonite

>>2741019
China is pure Communist. The exploiting class, as a class, has been eliminated. The socialist transformation of private ownership of the means of production is complete. All systems of exploitation of man by man are abolished.

>>2740603
what are those harsher measures that would make up for distributive taxes? China is unironically a low-tax country without an inheritance tax or universal healthcare

>>2741040
>The exploiting class, as a class, has been eliminated. The socialist transformation of private ownership of the means of production is complete. All systems of exploitation of man by man are abolished.

Then it shouldn’t even exist then, because those are the exact conditions in which causes a dictatorship of the proletariat to dissipate
>When at last it becomes the real representative of the whole of society, it renders itself unnecessary. As soon as there is no longer any social class to be held in subjection; as soon as class rule, and the individual struggle for existence based upon our present anarchy in production, with the collisions and excesses arising from these, are removed, nothing more remains to be repressed, and a special repressive force, a state, is no longer necessary. The first act by virtue of which the state really constitutes itself the representative of the whole of society — the taking possession of the means of production in the name of society — this is, at the same time, its last independent act as a state. State interference in social relations becomes, in one domain after another, superfluous, and then dies out of itself; the government of persons is replaced by the administration of things, and by the conduct of processes of production. The state is not "abolished". It dies out. This gives the measure of the value of the phrase "a free people's state", both as to its justifiable use at times by agitators, and as to its ultimate scientific insufficiency [117]; and also of the demands of the so-called anarchists for the abolition of the state out of hand

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1877/anti-duhring/ch24.htm

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>>2741047
>what are those harsher measures that would make up for distributive taxes?
https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2021/12/27/chinas-year-of-crackdowns-party-first-business-second

>>2741028
Trying to see your point of view, how is that not impressive? I don't see how it's a "liberal-tier" accomplishment?

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>>2741065
Communists do more than just mere industrialization. Any liberal state can industrialize. Communists ensure industry is not privatized by an upper class.

>>2741065
communism doesnt intend to edvelop industry, bro, we just want to make art and poetry in our bookstore with gluten free bagels and almond milk latte


>>2741068
<as a class
>posts individuals
learn2read

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>>2741075
Refugees Welcome

>>2741061
Yeah and what if you're a millionaire not in real estate, tech, or private education? More to the point, where's the redistribution? What was the benefit to the working class when Jack Ma's IPO got cancelled? He's free to pass his billions to his kids *tax-free*

>>2741081
Thank you anti-CIA department

>>2741055
The exploiting class has been eliminated and reformed into working peoples. The proletarian dictatorship is threatened by epstein imperialist who want to destroy it, so it remain proletarian dictatorship.
>>2741068
You take the assets which independent proletarian managers of means of production operate as if it were capitalist private property. You are wrong. In China, the independent proletarian managers of vast means of productions do not operate capitalistically. Proletarian managers of vast means of production earn Communist wages that are planned in accordance with principle material laws of socialism production. Capitalism cannot exist in China because wages under the socialist system are fundamentally different from wages under the capitalist system. Under the capitalist system, labor power is a commodity. Wages are incomes for the sale of labor power. They embody the relations between the employer and the employee, between the exploiter and the exploited, existing between the capitalist and the worker. Under the socialist system, workers are masters of the state and the enterprises. Labor power is not a commodity. It cannot be sold to themselves. Wages are no longer a transformation of the value or price of labor power. They are a form of state distribution of personal consumer goods according to the principle of “from each according to his ability, to each according to his labor.”

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>>2741071
oh yeah worked pretty fucking well last time

>>2741068
>no female proletarian manager
why is China like this

>>2741111
China learned from the mistakes of the USSR. It won't happen again

>>2741118
by adopting a market economy?

>>2741104
>The exploiting class has been eliminated and reformed into working peoples.
Then it should not exist.

>>2741137
Among other things yes

>>2740915
revisionists tend to be like that

>>2740915
I love when people ignore material reality and focus on beig pure blooded purist communist that want to belong to a group with labels such a marxist-leninist or revolutionary instead of seeking for a viable way to emmancipate the working class according to current objective reality

>>2741265
I don't think it's ignoring material reality to wonder why the people's republic has a stock market

>>2741148
Exploiters do not exist in China

>>2741357
The Communist stock markets nurtures Communist labor attitude by allowing workers to voluntarily redistribute their own earning into the greater socialist enterprise, putting socialist construction above selfishness, elevating them to master of production.

>>2741443
>corpo speak gibberish
Let's put a pin and this and circle around back to it.
Why does China allow foreign investors?

Communism is when you break your back making plastic bullshit and get a 401k

>>2741462
The workers exploit foreign capital by using their dictatorship over means of production to exploit foreign investors, revolutionizing the forces of production and enriching workers

>>2741443
>The Communist stock markets
you lost me there.

What is next? the "People's Billionaires(tm)"?

>>2741265
>>2741443
>>2741516
JEWISH NEGRO ALERT

>>2741036
You are a NEPsteinite pedo.

>>2741539
The Communist stocks are basically deferred labor vouchers. Communism without commodities means you get nothing but assigned prolepod and prolenutrient. No labubu. No soul. Communism without commodities is poverty. Communism without commodity never works


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