Starting with
Lebanon
Palestine (Gaza/West Banl)
Transnistria
Russia
Iran
North Yemen
North Korea
What do you guys think are the least cucked countries on Earth right now?
60 posts and 8 image replies omitted.>>2739773Yeah? What's your point?
Canada literally borders the Pedo empire and noyhing happened to them, they do trade deals that are immensely beneficial to them by entering the european market and getting cheap commodities from China, and they don't get pressured into anything
Non-cucked countries. Starting with
Lebanon
Palestine (Gaza/West Bank)
Transnistria
Russia
Iran
North Yemen
North Korea
Burkina Faso
Somalia
Niger
Mali
Iraq
Armenia
Belarus
Borderline based countries
China
Qatar
Türkiye
Afghanistan
Pakistan
Spain
Portugal
Cuck countries / useless shit-stains
United States of America
Israel
Ukraine
Saudi Arabia
United Arab Emirates
Oman
South Yemen
Bahrain
Kuwait
Jordan
Azerbaijan
Sudan
Libya
India
United Kingdom
Australia
Germany
France
Canada
Ireland
Egypt
Syria (under Al-Sharaa)
>>2739783Also cucked / useless shit-stains
Soutj Korea
Japan
Taiwan
>>2739784Also cucked
Georgia (Tblisi, not Atlanta)
>>2739776>Whilst the capitalist mode of production more and more completely transforms the great majority of the population into proletarians, it creates the power which, under penalty of its own destruction, is forced to accomplish this revolution. Whilst it forces on more and more of the transformation of the vast means of production, already socialized, into State property, it shows itself the way to accomplishing this revolution. The proletariat seizes political power and turns the means of production into State property. >But, in doing this, it abolishes itself as proletariat, abolishes all class distinction and class antagonisms, abolishes also the State as State. Society, thus far, based upon class antagonisms, had need of the State. That is, of an organization of the particular class which was, pro tempore, the exploiting class, an organization for the purpose of preventing any interference from without with the existing conditions of production, and, therefore, especially, for the purpose of forcibly keeping the exploited classes in the condition of oppression corresponding with the given mode of production (slavery, serfdom, wage-labor). The State was the official representative of society as a whole; the gathering of it together into a visible embodiment. But, it was this only in so far as it was the State of that class which itself represented, for the time being, society as a whole: >-in ancient times, the State of slaveowning citizens; >-in the Middle Ages, the feudal lords; >-in our own times, the bourgeoisie. >When, at last, it becomes the real representative of the whole of society, it renders itself unnecessary. As soon as there is no longer any social class to be held in subjection; as soon as class rule, and the individual struggle for existence based upon our present anarchy in production, with the collisions and excesses arising from these, are removed, nothing more remains to be repressed, and a special repressive force, a State, is no longer necessary. The first act by virtue of which the State really constitutes itself the representative of the whole of society — the taking possession of the means of production in the name of society –this is, at the same time, its last independent act as a State. State interference in social relations becomes, in one domain after another, superfluous, and then dies out of itself; the government of persons is replaced by the administration of things, and by the conduct of processes of production. The State is not "abolished". It dies out. >>2739786Yeah? That's a nice quote. What's your point tho?
Russia is extremely cucked what are you talking about?!?! If Putin wasn’t a capitalist pussy he would make Russia place nukes in Cuba again, instead he can’t even ship oil to them.
>>2739793Do you have reading issues of something? If what you had said was true, those states would have already been obsolete.
>>2739796Uhm no because the state as a form cannot abolish itself at the press of a button. Certainly not while america still dominates the world. It is a gradual process
>>2739797 Uhm no because the state as a form cannot abolish itself at the press of a button.
No one said anything of the sort.
>Certainly not while america still dominates the world.That sounds pretty cucked to me
>>2739803>No one said anything of the sort.Yeah you did:
<If what you had said was true, those states would have already been obsolete.
>That sounds pretty cucked to meThat's your opinion, imo maintaining a DotP while America rapes its way across the globe killing countless millions in the name of capitalism, anticommunism and pedophilia is not very cucked
>>2739744>in which country are the blue collared workers most free to purse whatever they wish in lifeNordic countries probably. Places like Cuba don't have opportunities due to poor material conditions. Places like USA don't have opportunities due to extreme class division.
>>2739807>Yeah you did:Obsolete and abolished are two different things.
>That's your opinionA correct opinion
>imo maintaining a DotP <The proletariat seizes political power and turns the means of production into State property. But, in doing this, it abolishes itself as proletariat, abolishes all class distinction and class antagonisms, abolishes also the State as State
>while America rapes its way across the globe killing countless millions in the name of capitalism, anticommunism and pedophilia is very cucked. Mega cucked. Ultra cucked. Extremely cucked. Super cucked. Giga cucked.
>>2739808Nice, seems quite accurate at a glance. Saved
>>2739817>Obsolete and abolished are two different things.Not really, they are basically synonyms. If the state were obsolete it would be abolished and vice versa. You're just doing semantics now. Boooooring
>A correct opinion Wrong
>The proletariat seizes political power and turns the means of production into State property. But, in doing this, it abolishes itself as proletariat, abolishes all class distinction and class antagonisms, abolishes also the State as StateYeah? What's your point?
>very cucked. Mega cucked. Ultra cucked. Extremely cucked. Super cucked. Giga cucked.No, that's for states that host american military bases
>>2739833>Not reallyReally
>they are basically synonymsThey are not. An actual synonym would be antiquated.
>If the state were obsolete it would Wither away
>WrongRight
>Yeah? What's your point?You can’t read. And that the dotp is not as long term as you make it out to be.
>No, that's for states thatAllow the bourgeoisie to dictate historical progression
>>2739859>ReallyNah, not really
>They are not. An actual synonym would be antiquateThey pretty much are, that's why I said basically, the difference is between about to go and being fully gone. A negligible difference unless you have autism
>Wither awayaka be abolished. Thanks for conceding the point lol
>RightUnfortunately you are wrong
>You can’t readI just can't bothered trying to guess what you're trying to say by quote mining and I'd rather you just state what you mean.
>And that the dotp is not as long term as you make it out to be. Nobody can predict how long term DotP will be and you will not find Marx or Lenin or anyone attempting to do so, we are not fortune tellers
>Allow the bourgeoisie to dictate historical progressionPotato Potato. You really love semantics dude. So boring
>>2739871Potayto Potahto actually
>>2739887I usually like to say potato tomato, but I figured he'd be a pedantic autist about that too. I like your way of phonetizing it tho
>>2739871>Nah, not reallyReally
>They pretty much areThey are literally not but okay
>aka be abolished. Thanks for conceding the point lol>When at last it becomes the real representative of the whole of society, it renders itself unnecessary. As soon as there is no longer any social class to be held in subjection; as soon as class rule, and the individual struggle for existence based upon our present anarchy in production, with the collisions and excesses arising from these, are removed, nothing more remains to be repressed, and a special repressive force, a state, is no longer necessary. The first act by virtue of which the state really constitutes itself the representative of the whole of society — the taking possession of the means of production in the name of society — this is, at the same time, its last independent act as a state. State interference in social relations becomes, in one domain after another, superfluous, and then dies out of itself; the government of persons is replaced by the administration of things, and by the conduct of processes of production. The state is not "abolished". It dies out. This gives the measure of the value of the phrase "a free people's state", both as to its justifiable use at times by agitators, and as to its ultimate scientific insufficiency [117]; and also of the demands of the so-called anarchists for the abolition of the state out of hand.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1877/anti-duhring/ch24.htm>Unfortunately you areCorrect
>I just can't bothered trying toRead, yes I know
>Nobody can predict how long term DotP will beUnless you are dealing with constant internal conflicts that prevents the achievement of revolutionary goals, it should be no more than ten years, if even that.
>You really love semantics dudeWhat you had quoted was not semantics.
>>2739894>Really Nah, not really
>They are literally not but okayThey pretty much are and thanks for conceding the point again
<When at last it becomes the real representative of the whole of society, it renders itself unnecessary. As soon as there is no longer any social class to be held in subjection; as soon as class rule, and the individual struggle for existence based upon our present anarchy in production, with the collisions and excesses arising from these, are removed, nothing more remains to be repressed, and a special repressive force, a state, is no longer necessary. The first act by virtue of which the state really constitutes itself the representative of the whole of society — the taking possession of the means of production in the name of society — this is, at the same time, its last independent act as a state. State interference in social relations becomes, in one domain after another, superfluous, and then dies out of itself; the government of persons is replaced by the administration of things, and by the conduct of processes of production. The state is not "abolished". It dies out. This gives the measure of the value of the phrase "a free people's state", both as to its justifiable use at times by agitators, and as to its ultimate scientific insufficiency [117]; and also of the demands of the so-called anarchists for the abolition of the state out of hand.Yeah? And?
>Read, yes I knowNo I read it all, as I've done before. Unless you make a point with it I will have to ask you to specify
>Unless you are dealing with constant internal conflicts that prevents the achievement of revolutionary goals, it should be no more than ten years, if even thatLmfao, according to who? You? Not a very credible source
>What you had quoted was not semantics.It is because the difference between those things is just the words used to describe it
>>2739913>Nah, not really>They pretty much are and thanks for conceding the point again>Yeah? And?If you don’t have anything more than poor reading comprehension and statements that can be proven with a simple google search, I would suggest you stop talking.
>No I read it allThat’s clearly a lie. You have been babied the entire discussion and have demonstrated zero attempts to dissect the passages given to you yourself.
>Lmfao, according to who? You?Yep, me. Dotp is created after a successful revolution, meaning you already overwhelmed the main forces of the bourgeoisie. What would take you so long for the dotp to last more than ten years?
>those things is just the words used to describe itUse a search engine and look at a dictionary.
>>2739937>If you don’t have anything more than poor reading comprehension and statements that can be proven with a simple google search, I would suggest you stop talking.Not an argument
>That’s clearly a lieThese are pretty short paragraphs dude. Not really an effort to read. I already explained why I'm asking you to elucidate what you're trying to say by actually saying it
>You have been babied the entire discussion Cope
>demonstrated zero attempts to dissect the passages given to you yourself.I already explained why I'm asking you to use your words to say what you mean instead of quote mining
>Yep, me.Then I can just disregard it
>Dotp is created after a successful revolution, meaning you already overwhelmed the main forces of the bourgeoisie. What would take you so long for the dotp to last more than ten years?Imperialism obviously lol, again the state cannot abolish itself at the press of a button, especially while america still dominates the world
>Use a search engine and look at a dictionary.Not necessary
>>2739989>Not an argumentIt’s not supposed to be. That part is clearly already done with considering you’re down to being childish. A simple search is something you won’t do, so there is nothing more to discuss.
>These are pretty short paragraphs dudeWhich means you should have been able to decipher them quite easily with no complaints. But you didn’t. You kept asking every single time “What's your point?”, as if the point wasn’t in the paragraph itself.
>I already explained why I'm asking you to elucidate what you're trying to say by actually saying itAnd I am telling you here and now that your explanation was moronic dogshit. As you said earlier, it was only short paragraphs you had to look into. And yet, here you are with flimsy excuses.
>CopeNot an argument, nor was it appropriately utilized, nor can that be proved. You were babied and carried throughout this entire discussion by yours truly, with no evidence to the contrary. Now YOU can go cope on that.
>Imperialism obviously lolWhy would that stop the development of a dotp after a revolution?
>again the state cannot abolish itself at the press of a buttonNo one said anything of the sort
>Not necessaryOh, but it is. You want to call it a synonym? Prove it. You want to call it semantics? Prove it.
>>2740003Israel likes to blockade Gaza, but Hamas can spam their homemade Al-Asef explosive warhead submarine unmanned torpedoes drone UUVs with rotors, along with naval mines in the mediterranean sea.
They have homemade "SAMS" (surface-to-air rocket systems) made from scavenged plumbing pipes from buildings and unguided S-5 rockets from 1960s Soviet fighter jets with a 2-3kg light warhead that's real shock sensitive and light-bellied and can explode on water. Just enough to blow a hole in the fuselage of a low-flying military helicopter with three hits for good measure. There have been actual videos showing this and homemade naval turret rocket launchers carrying the S-5 round to small Israeli vessels.
>>2740003Pretty much. Its rightoid /pol/ but anti-western one.
>cuck
mods ban these /pol/yps
>>2740063You are one of the last people on this board who should be saying this shit, aren’t you?
>>2740026>It’s not supposed to be. That part is clearly already done with considering you’re down to being childish. A simple search is something you won’t do, so there is nothing more to discuss.I'm not gonna make your arguments for you dude. Just use your words, it's not hard
>Which means you should have been able to decipher them quite easily with no complaints. But you didn’t. You kept asking every single time “What's your point?”, as if the point wasn’t in the paragraph itself. Anybody can quotemine. Again I'm not gonna make your arguments for you. If you can't be bothered to talk to me normally, I will just ask you to until you do. No need to get your panties all in a twist autist
>And I am telling you here and now that your explanation was moronic dogshit. As you said earlier, it was only short paragraphs you had to look into. And yet, here you are with flimsy excuses.If it's so simple, it should be easy to formulate it in your own words. Yet here you are, whining instead.
>Not an argument, nor was it appropriately utilized, nor can that be proved. You were babied and carried throughout this entire discussion by yours truly, with no evidence to the contrary. Now YOU can go cope on thatLmfao it's cope because I'm asking a very very simple task of you. Stop quotemining and use your words to make an argument. Since you simply refuse to,I can only surmise you are incapable of it. I already explained that I'm not gonna bother trying to guess and I'd rather you just state it. I don't know why that is such a herculean task for you and why you are getting so upset about it. Though I have my suspicious
>Why would that stop the development of a dotp after a revolution?Because it seeks to undermine and destroy said DotP, through economic and military warfare
>No one said anything of the sortYeah you did, I already quoted where before
>Oh, but it is. You want to call it a synonym? Prove it. You want to call it semantics? Prove it.No it's not, you said it's when you let the bourgeoisie dictate historical progression. I'm saying that's when you let American military bases be stationed in your country. Pretty simple. You are just being needlessly optuse and pedantic, probably because you have autism
>>2740164>I'm not gonna make your argument>I'm not gonna make your argumentNo one asked you to. That’s the problem here. You asked to make your own arguments against evidence that directly countered your statements. You did not.
>Yet here you are,addressing an idiot who can’t read short paragraphs, and apparently has short term memory.
>I'm asking a very very simple task of you.You’re asking me to waste my time describing the contents of the paragraphs I provided instead of reading them yourself and addressing the contents.
>I can only surmise you are incapable of it.I have already done it every single time you have asked. So I don’t know how that can be unless you are a delusional moron or a childish buffoon.
>I don't know why that is such a herculean task for youI don’t know why it’s so hard for you read a few short paragraphs directly addressing statements.
>Though I have my suspicious I am talking to a dumbass.
>Because it seeks to undermine and destroy said DotP, through economic and military warfare I know what it seeks. How exactly is it going to stop the progression of the dotp?
>I already quoted where before You quoted incorrectly
>you said it's when you let the bourgeoisie dictate historical progression. I'm saying that's when you let American military bases be stationed in your country. Pretty simpleThat’s still not semantics.
>>2740561>No one asked you toYou did by providing quotes without arguing why you provided them <3
>That’s the problem here.No hahah, that's not the problem
>You asked to make your own arguments against evidence that directly countered your statements. You did notYou have yet to provide evidence. If you want to make an argument I will be waiting
>addressing an idiot who can’t read short paragraphs, and apparently has short term memory.I did read them tho, I just don't care to guess what you're trying to say with them, which I already stated yet you seem to be purposefully ignoring
>You’re asking me to waste my time describing the contents of the paragraphs I provided instead of reading them yourself and addressing the contents.No I'm asking you to formulate an argument instead of quoting theory at me as if your argument is self evident lmao. Are you retarded dude? It's really not that complicated
>I have already done it every single time you have asked. So I don’t know how that can be unless you are a delusional moron or a childish buffoon.Yet you keep doing it so what gives?
>I don’t know why it’s so hard for you read a few short paragraphs directly addressing statements.I did read them tho
>I am talking to a dumbass. No it's because you have autism
>I know what it seeks. How exactly is it going to stop the progression of the dotp?By undermining it through economic and military warfare
>You quoted incorrectly No I quoted you correctly
>That’s still not semantics.It is semantics because those are different ways of saying the same thing, as I've said before.
Do you see how this entire argument has devolved into meta discussion, semantics and pedantic whining? You could have just made arguments and I would have adressed them. Then again, you were never arguing in good faith in the first place, so I shouldn't be surprised
>>2740705>Imagine aiming a Soviet kornet laser-guided ATGM from the 1960s out a fifth story window at a helicopter,You would die from the backblast.
>>2740706>You did by providing quotes without arguing why you provided themWhy would I need to argue for that?
>No hahah, that's not the problemVery much is the problem
>You have yet to provide evidence. Alright. You’re clearly done here. Made it way too obvious you would rather waste my time than have an actual discussion with that blatant bullshit.
>>2740705Sadly most of that video is AI generated.
>>2740743Iran is esentially besieging Israel with missiles right now in endless 24/7 saturation attacks putting the whole country under high alert and fear of terror, acute stress reactions and deaths, fires, rubble and so on.
>>2740738>Why would I need to argue for that?Because I don't want to have to guess and I'd rather you just state what you are trying to say. I've already stated this like three or four times. What's so difficult to understand about that?
>Very much is the problemIt's really not lmao, I am perfectly willing to have an intelligent discussion with you and whenever you've made an actual argument I have adressed and countered it. You are the one that's seething because I don't feel like going quote for quote with you
>Alright. You’re clearly done here. Made it way too obvious you would rather waste my time than have an actual discussion with that blatant bullshit.Quotes are not evidence. Make an argument or shut the fuck up retard
>>2740766Conversation is over dumbass. Stop shitting up the thread.
>>2739620>Lebanonlol, lmao
>>2740796I'll take it as your concession faggot. Don't ever talk to me again
>Russia
nice try cucktin apologist
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