/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Marx was a treatler westoid and needed to be overcome

>>2752475
wtf is a "treatler westoid"

>>2752472
>The law of value says that a society with money is bogreosie therefore not socialism.
no it doesn't. money pre-exists bourgeois society by thousands of years. if we're going to have the sectarian bait thread, let's at least get the basics right please.

>>2752485
>The law of value states that value, understood as the labour time socially necessary to produce a commodity, is conserved in the exchange of commodities. The advantages of this definition are that it is cast in the normal form of a scientific law, it is empirically testable, it has a precise meaning, and it emphasizes the fundamental Marxian proposition that value cannot arise in circulation.

Are you baiting, or are you just misinformed?

>>2752476
If you don’t know it’s a pretty big sign you’re one yourself

>>2752494
that is the correct definition. it does not say that any society with money is bourgeois. the question of whether the law of value operates in pre or post-capitalist economies is completely separate. i believe you are baiting.

>>2752494
and? feudal societies had money, and even commodities, but weren't bourgeois societies.

>>2752500
Ultras, Treatlers and other Trotskyites will deny this

As the class struggle within a nation is waged for the readjustment of
unequal distinctions, so war between nations for an honorable cause
will reform the present unjust distinctions. The British Empire is a
millionaire possessing wealth all over the world; and Russia is a great
landowner in occupation of the northern half of the globe. China with
her undeveloped productive forces is one of the proletariat, and she has
the right to declare war on the big monopoly powers. The socialists
of the West contradict themselves when they admit the right of class
struggle to the proletariat at home and at the same time condemn
war, waged by a proletariat among nations, as militarism and
aggression . . . If it is permissible for the working class to unite to
overthrow unjust authority by bloodshed, then unconditional ap
proval ' should be given to China to perfect her army and navy and
make war for the rectification of unjust international frontiers. In the
name of rational social democracy China claims possession of Australia
and Eastern Siberia.
-Deng Xiaoping 1980

So you telling me a fatass leftcom retard could go to the UN or the league of nations and say "hey, why are you guys fighting, you both are capitalists, there is no need for a cold war or ww2" and them everything would be at peace ?.

>>2752515
why would a leftcom want peace between capitalist nations

>>2752475
every third worldist is just a temporarily embarrassed treatlerite, they all want to be the USA.

Based and trvke

>>2752475
Reported

>>2752476
It's the "left-wing" term used by rightoids that are repeating ecofash drivel

Report and move on

>>2752510
You are a jewish negro

i don't really care that much about OP's question since it's just meant to start a circle jerk we've had on here 10,000x before, I just wanted to shill this video because it's very good and interesting and uses a lot of early soviet sources

>>2752537
China has better treats than America it's a miracle they're not all 500 pound hambeasts.

>>2752472
>The USSR was not socialist.
>Why do ML(oosers) say the opposite ?

You haven't heard of former high ranking central committee member Richard Kosolapov. He didn't think the USSR was socialist.

>>2752775
it's because they had socialist revolution before industrializing. every country that has socialist revolution before industrializing builds outdoor gyms n shit

>>2752781
thats because they were striving towards socialism

>>2752528
well primarily because when capitalists have a lover's spat the working classes get conscripted to die doe