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when it comes to NATO-empire vs the rest of the bourgeois world, I choose the rest of the bourgeois world, because it is the lesser evil (Stalin, the greatest liberal of all time, and friend of FDR, the second greatest liberal of all time, said to do this)

When it comes to the USA (the crown Jewel of the NATO empire), and the question of Democrats vs Republicans, I still choose the Democrats as the lesser evil vs. the Republicans. Why? Obama softened the embargo on Cuba. His imperialist Iran deal was objectively a better status quo than Drumpf tearing it up. also Stalin said to do this. Comintern said vote democrat, so I vote democrat. I vote Platner, because even though he is zionist, he is lesser evil zionist.

You will say I am liberal. It is true. I am Liberal. Putin is liberal. I uphold Putin. The Ayatollah is liberal. I uphold the Ayatollah. Xi Jinping is liberal, I uphold Xi Jinping. Even the DPRK is liberal, they enshrine private property in article 24 of their constitution.

Liberalism is good. The axis of resistance is liberal. America is reactionary.

Uphold Multipolar-Liberalism! Death to America! Total Burger Death! Bring back Robespierre! Bring back Louverture! Bring back Dessalines!

Finally, a multipolaroid who isn't dishonest about their liberalism

>>2757096
Drumpf is monarchist. Drumpf is totalitarian. Liberal axis of resistance against America is objectively historically progressive. The rest of the world deserves to have its own 1776 to declare its independence from America.

>>2757098
the US system is a constitutional monarchy, just with de facto aristocratic succession rather than direct hereditary rights. in fact, the presidential term limits were only ratified as the 22nd ammendment in 1951. Even the UK is more democratic since its prime minister has sovereignty (the equivalent in the US being the speaker of the house of representatives).

>>2757098
>The rest of the world deserves to have its own 1776 to declare its independence from America.
I would love to see them try

>>2757106
Why do you protect the orange pedophile who molests the world?

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>>2757102
Only once the imperialist world order is destroyed along with unequal exchange, will we finally have multipolarism-liberalism, which is true capitalism. When labor power is exploited equally everywhere, and the level of development is equal everywhere, only then will communists (the most liberal liberals of all) be able to organize an undivided international proletariat. This is why the idpol struggles are also important. Every struggle which divides the global proletariat, like imperialism, homophobia, sexism, etc, must be brought to its natural close by liberalism. If the development of socialized production was liberalism's purpose in the base of world history, its purpose in the superstructure is to create an undivided global proletariat with undivided attention. This is only possible if the satanic-zionist-imperialist-anti-liberal-totalitarian-neonazi US empire is destroyed.

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Nobody seems interested in debunking my 100% correct synthesis, so I can only assume it is unimpeachable, unlike Drumpf

>>2757111
The orange pedophile will go and be replaced, but America is an idea. The tendrils of America are enmeshed into the very fabric of the world, and it cannot die without the world dying with it.

OP is Simon Bolivar from beyond the grave, I kneel

>>2757134
That is why the rest of the world deserves its own 1776. Everyone has already been made spiritually American without having the sovereignty of America. America's exorbitant imperialist privileges must be brought to an end so that everyone can be their own America. That is the apotheosis of bourgeois liberalism, and it is the first step to making an actual undivided global proletariat possible.

If Thomas Paine was alive this would be his opinion

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>>2757145
You do me great honor.

>>2757146
the liberal idea is that everyone is bourgeois, not that everyone is proletarian

>>2757154
Communism is the extension of the freedom and wealth of the bourgeois to the proletariat

>>2757157
communism is surely about abolishing the proletariat?

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>>2757163
The proletariat and the bourgeois are abolished over time by blurring the lines between them, productive labor gives you access to luxury

>>2757154
Your reading was not careful. I refer to the creation of a global proletariat. That does not mean that the proletariat is the only class, it means that the proletariat is equally proletarian and equally exploited everywhere. No more labor aristocrats. No more petty bourgeoisie. No more "bourgeois proletarians" as Engels called the English proletariat towards the end of his life, when England was the global hegemon. With the abolition of global hegemony and the advent of multipolarism, the global proletariat will finally have a reason to unite against the global bourgeoisie. They will no longer be divided on questions of labor aristocracy, unequal exchange, idpol, treatlerism, and so forth. With the death of the labor aristocrat beneficiary of unequal exchange, the treatlerite proletariat, we will finally have an American proletariat that is just as exploited as the Asian, African, and Latin American proletariat. The whole world will be the USA, because the whole world will be independent from the USA. Everyone will have their own 1776, they will have their own bourgeois sovereignty from imperialism, and at last the question of class struggle can be addressed without a proletariat divided by concerns of bourgeois national liberation. This is the apotheosis of liberalism. The entire 250 years between 1776 and now was the dialectical development of this question, and the answer to that question is Death to America, life to 1776. And Iran is providing that answer. Iran will destroy the great satan. Russia will fight NATO. China will develop the productive forces. The sahel coalition is making moves. The DPRK is making moves. A new age is upon us, an age of true liberalism, and the dialectical developments which Marx anticipated prematurely will finally be possible.

>>2757169
decolonialism in the 20th century was already this new nationalism, but it hardly liberated the world.

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>>2757166
>productive labor gives you access to luxury
Marx (the third greatest liberal) had an answer to this which was more nuanced:

Marx says it is unrealistic to expect workers in developed societies to live like workers in the least developed societies:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/wage-labour/ch06.htm
<An appreciable rise in wages presupposes a rapid growth of productive capital. Rapid growth of productive capital calls forth just as rapid a growth of wealth, of luxury, of social needs and social pleasures. Therefore, although the pleasures of the labourer have increased, the social gratification which they afford has fallen in comparison with the increased pleasures of the capitalist, which are inaccessible to the worker, in comparison with the stage of development of society in general. Our wants and pleasures have their origin in society; we therefore measure them in relation to society; we do not measure them in relation to the objects which serve for their gratification. Since they are of a social nature, they are of a relative nature.

Marx denounces "crude communism" based on "envy" which seeks leveling down the standard of living and a total equality of wages rather than abolition of the wages system:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/epm/3rd.htm
<The crude communist is merely the culmination of this envy and desire to level down on the basis of a preconceived minimum. It has a definite, limited measure. How little this abolition of private property is a true appropriation is shown by the abstract negation of the entire world of culture and civilization, and the return to the unnatural simplicity of the poor, unrefined man who has no needs and who has not yet even reached the stage of private property, let along gone beyond it.

<(For crude communism) the community is simply a community of labor and equality of wages, which are paid out by the communal capital, the community as universal capitalist. Both sides of the relation are raised to an unimaginary universality – labor as the condition in which everyone is placed and capital as the acknowledged universality and power of the community.


Marx points out that "a fair day's wage for a fair day's work" is a conservative motto which does not seek abolition of the wages system:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1865/value-price-profit/ch03.htm#c14

<[The working class] ought to understand that, with all the miseries it imposes upon them, the present system simultaneously engenders the material conditions and the social forms necessary for an economical reconstruction of society. Instead of the conservative motto: “A fair day's wage for a fair day's work!” they ought to inscribe on their banner the revolutionary watchword: “Abolition of the wages system!"


Marx points out what material conditions are necessary to overcome a mode of production:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1859/critique-pol-economy/preface.htm

<No social order is ever destroyed before all the productive forces for which it is sufficient have been developed, and new superior relations of production never replace older ones before the material conditions for their existence have matured within the framework of the old society.

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>>2757173
the dialectical motion of decolonization is as yet unfinished. Consider the walled world. Consider the global apartheid.

You are a fucking classcuck, please stop spamming the board with dogshit Stalin quotes and kill yourself

>>2757294
not everyone who posts that stalin pic is the same anon, you schizo. for example i have posted that pic and I am not OP or a liberal

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