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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
Brace through the hyper-real lacanian void together with the Leftypol Twitter account:
https://twitter.com/leftypol_org

Reminder That None of This Is Real!
ɢʀᴀʙ ᴀ ᴘᴀɪʀ ᴏꜰ sᴘᴇᴄᴛᴀᴄʟᴇs

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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blWjssVoUQ

<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blq9sCIyXgA

>The Culture Industry from Dialectic of Enlightenment (1944) by Theodore Adorno & Max Horkheimer

📓 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/adorno/1944/culture-industry.htm
📖 • https://libcom.org/article/dialectic-enlightenment-philosophical-fragments-theodor-adorno-and-marx-horkheimer
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hSLdd8R8mY

<One-Dimensional Man (1964) by Herbert Marcuse

📖 • https://libcom.org/article/one-dimensional-man-studies-ideology-advanced-industrial-society-herbert-marcuse
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZCoLbEkAqs

>Discipline and Punish (1975) by Michel Foucault

📖 • https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/michel-foucault-discipline-and-punishment
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFbywfzu-jI

<Simulacra and Simulation (1981) by Jean Baudrillard

📖 • https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=DBF3E860993373223D72E98FADF0F2DC
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yxg2_6_YLs

>Manufacturing Consent (1988) by Edward S. Herman & Noam Chomsky

📖 • https://libcom.org/article/manufacturing-consent-political-economy-mass-media-noam-chomsky-and-edward-s-herman
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34LGPIXvU5M

<The Sublime Object of Ideology (1989) by Slavoj Zizek

📖 • https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=054E022C8BD24EE2C5595B575BCED7DC
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtIckkHsUQ4

>Postscript on the Societies of Control (1990) by Gilles Deleuze

📖 • https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/gilles-deleuze-postscript-on-the-societies-of-control
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu4Cq_-bLlY

<Postmodernism, or, the Cultural Logic of Late Capitalism (1991) by Fredric Jameson

📖 • https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=5BD20E0E22FC8BC2CB4F8A7760D57027
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RtV0oO8Pmg

>Spectres of Marx (1993) by Jacques Derrida

📖 • https://libcom.org/library/specters-marx-jacques-derrida
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJr0NwXWb6Q

<Capitalist Realism (2009) by Mark Fisher

📖 • https://libcom.org/article/capitalist-realism-mark-fisher
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cb5XJH4NMI

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SUPPLEMENTARY MATERIAL

>Precursor Material to Post-modernity and Critical Theory

📖 • Karl Marx - Book 1, Chapter 4 of Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts (1844)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/labour.htm
📺 • Why Marx Was Right: Alienation - PlasticPills
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPRxxN4Kh30

📖 • Antonio Gramsci - Book 1, Chapter 1 of Selections from the Prison Notebooks (1929)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/gramsci/prison_notebooks/problems/intellectuals.htm
📺 • Hegemony: WTF? An introduction to Gramsci and cultural hegemony - Tom Nicholas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LI_2-qsovo

📖 • Louis Althusser - Ideology and Ideological State Apparatuses (1970)
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/althusser/1970/ideology.htm
📺 • Althusser's Concept of Ideology: A Discussion with Anthony Gavin - Acid Horizon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtOqXxkKwvw

<On Neo-Liberalism and Post-Fordism

[Work in progress]

>Documentaries

The Society of the Spectacle (1974) by Guy Debord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjF6I6SYjgA

Manufacturing Consent (1992) by Mark Achbar & Peter Wintonick, with Noam Chomsky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li2m3rvsO0I

The Pervert's Guide to Cinema (2006) and The Pervert's Guide to Ideology (2012) by Sophie Fiennes, with Slavoj Zizek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYuI4SFw4g0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBcFLmu_tlc

HyperNormalisation (2006) by Adam Curtis
https://youtu.be/thLgkQBFTPw


<Easy-Bake Breadtube (for absolute beginners)

We're All Fake Now - Wisecrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTW1mPOJJ_Y

Are Cell Phones Replacing Reality? - PBS Idea Channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AXIAM7dTTg

The Cultural Significance of Cyberpunk - Cuck Philosophy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvor7hhDKTs

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RECOMMENDED OP-EDS
I Don’t Want to Be an Internet Person by Ginevra Davis
https://www.palladiummag.com/2022/11/04/i-do-not-want-to-be-an-internet-person/

Pluralistic: Tiktok's enshittification by Cory Doctorow
https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys

Facebook's Threads is so depressing by Jason O. Gilbert
https://jogblog.substack.com/p/facebooks-threads-is-so-depressing
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 No.1833453

The reason why I keep bringing up the schizoforce is because it is the opposite of autism. There is no such thing as someone who can combine the two forces, and if they did they would have more power than a Kwisatz Haderach. Which is what Terry Davis might've been able to achieve. Most Schizphrenics have below 100 autism score however and are easily fooled. Autists however are damn near impervious to propaganda because psyops have not been able to mindfuck them yet. The two combined? An unstoppable force of memes.

 No.1833459

>>1833453
Sounds like this is a job for me, actually

 No.1833463

>>1833453
>Kwisatz Haderach

 No.1833518

https://www.youtube.com/@kabrutusrambo
>The guy who started sweet baby inc is a fat brazilian who depicts himself as a chad

 No.1833519

>>1833423
Being a schizoposter in general is bullshit. It just throws shit at the wall until the whole place stinks.

 No.1833544

Im a diagnosed schizo, i had a psychotic break down around 2017 and ended up in the psych ward twice. being a schizo wasnt fun or exciting, it was scary, madness is the scariest thing on the planet. now i have to visit a psych once a month, its annoying. to tell you the truth i think the psychosis was transient and a one time thing, buy you try explaining how you arent crazy to people and they just ignore you.


By the way the best left wing schizo was phillip k dick, he hated facism and created the theory of the black iron prison

>After his revelation, or theophany, Horselover Fat/Philip K. Dick comes to the realization that the reality we live in is false, and that we live in something called the Black Iron Prison. According to Dick, the Prison is a system of social control that obscures the true nature of reality

 No.1833575

>>1833544
Dick wrote about his addiction to Amphetamines and psychosis better than anyone else has attempted this subject IMHO.

 No.1833579

>>1833544
What do you think instigated your one-time psychosis?

 No.1833580

>>1833354
Bernie is a zionist cuck so I really don't care whether he gets smeared or not.

 No.1833601

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>>1833579
i was very deeply into the occult and kept seeing patterns that involved the sun and the moon, its a long story that involves the devil, david bowie dying, gang stalkers, astral sex with zeus, and general parnoia



The rusted chains of prison moons
Are shattered by the sun
I walk a road horizons change
The tournament's begun
The purple piper plays his tune
The choir softly sing
Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
For the court of the crimson king

 No.1833616

>>1833601
Just to make sure you're not someone I know, did you also get obsessed with Nixon and GHWB?

 No.1833626

>>1833580
braindamage

 No.1833635

>>1833616
no, my psychosis mostly revolved around spiritual things like the devil, greek gods, angels called the watchers. At one point i tried mediating in a closet in order to acheive theosis

 No.1833646

>>1833626
Sorry, libshit. I don't care about your favourite child killer politician

 No.1833647

>>1833544
one of my high school friends developed schizophrenia right after high school and it was really sad (and freaky) witnessing the early stages. he was at the point where i think he knew what we was saying was insane so he'd talk in broken sentences with wide eyes being as vague as possible about gangstalkers out to get him (maybe he was scared they were listening in? idk). a year later he was on social media writing in all caps about CIA fighter jets chasing him and begging kim jong il to shoot them down, eventually he got medicated tho

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>>1833580
objectively correct take. trans friends on leftypol.org are just looking for a surrogate father figure and have found one in sanders. that's why they defend him.

 No.1833718

>>1833103
>Marxist analysis
<filled with moralist garbage
You're saying every industry involves exploitation (in concrete terms) like it should be a surprise to anyone.

 No.1833752

>>1832969
That term was coined by some Australian
gamergate furry that goes by marche.

 No.1833779

I thought this was Augustus Romain for some reason.

 No.1833781

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Some academics wrote a paper about tankies. Except not anyone here, because it's about tankies on Reddit. You don't post on Reddit, do you?

>Tankies prioritize discussions of state-level political events over social issues … This is further supported by their lower RTPRs for social issues, e.g., police, climate change, healthcare, housing, gun control, unions, and taxes compared to other far-left communities … The results of our analysis reveal that the most popular named entities mentioned by tankies are related to China, the United States, the USSR, Russia, Ukraine, and Nazis. Additionally, we find that tankies mention China at a higher rate and Stalin nearly twice as often as Lenin, compared to other far-left communities. Our findings demonstrate that the preference for China and Stalinism is a defining characteristic of tankies. Furthermore, our analysis reveals that Ukraine is among the most popular named entities of the tankies community, and not among the most popular of the other communities. This suggests that the topic of Russia-Ukraine relations is more relevant or important to tankies, or that this community’s members engage in more discussion on this topic than those of other far-left communities.


[…]

>For the IDENTITY_ATTACK model, the most frequently mentioned named entities are typically religious or ethnic groups. Tankies appear to primarily target Muslims and Jews, with 41.80% and 34.03% of the posts mentioning these groups having high IDENTITY_ATTACK scores; the highest proportion of high IDENTITY_ATTACK scores for Muslims and Jews of any far-left community we analyze. Furthermore, we observe that tankies attack the identities of Asians, Arabs, Hindus, Mexicans, Africans, and Whites in more than 20% posts mentioning these identities […] Our analysis shows that tankies have the highest proportion of high scores for IDENTITY_ATTACK and THREAT among far-left communities, and they have the second highest proportion of high scores for TOXICITY, SEVERE_TOXICITY, PROFANITY, and INSULT, behind r/alltheleft.


[…]

>In this paper, we presented a data-driven analysis of the left-wing extremist community known as “tankies.” Although they have existed since the 1950s, when they supported hardline Soviet actions, more recently, tankies’ ideology has shifted to support so called “actually existing socialist countries,” including China, Russia, and North Korea. To better understand tankies, we collected over 1.3M posts from 53K authors across six subreddits. Among other things, we find that tankies are a clearly defined community positioned at the periphery of the larger far-left on Reddit. We also find that tankies show significant differences with respect to what and who they talk about. For example, tankies have consistent vocabulary misalignments and are more toxic than other far-left groups. Unlike other left-wing communities, tankies also talk much more about state-level political events as opposed to social issues. We further find that tankies responded to a deplatforming event by migrating a decentralized platform, resulting in a net increase in toxicity within the community

https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.06981

 No.1833806

>>1833781
>using "Stalinist" unironically

 No.1833946

>>1833453
>Autists however are damn near impervious to propaganda
Total Meme. Part of the condition is that they will focus on small details but ignore the larger picture so they just don't get what the "propaganda" is trying to do.
Also, if you ever listen to an autistic talk about some hobby you know about, you'll quickly notice they'll swallow random marketing crap as Absolute Truth. Good luck trying to convince them otherwise.

 No.1833979

https://old.reddit.com/r/whenthe/comments/1caj93m/i_see_were_complaining_about_2_different_things/
>Even tradcath reddit zoomers are tired of shit getting called woke

 No.1833998

>>1833806
Stalinists in the 1930s would disagree with you, rofl.

 No.1834000

>>1833453
>>1833946
Yep it's a retarded 4chan thing where they first self-diagnose with autism and then believe this gives them superpowers. Fully unironic autism mom behavior but with themselves.
I don't think anyone parroting this has ever talked to autists in a STEM career, for example.

 No.1834004

>>1833781
>Furthermore, we observe that tankies attack the identities of Asians, Arabs, Hindus, Mexicans, Africans, and Whites in more than 20% posts mentioning these identities
muh sacred identities
>TOXICITY, SEVERE_TOXICITY
Skimmed through the paper but didn't see how they defined these terms.

 No.1834046

>>1833779
actual zombie

 No.1834059

>>1833779
decided to look up how gazi kodzo's doing and one article mentions them being trans now
>“Defendant self-reported being proscribed (sic) psychotropic medication for a mental health condition,” Flynn wrote in an order filed earlier this month in the Middle District of Florida. “In addition, Defendant self-reported to being in the process of transitioning genders.”
https://archive.ph/coJSW

don't eat the prison food /isg/

 No.1834097

>>1834059
I mean Gazi has always been a bit fruity tbh, all theatre kids are

 No.1834118

>>1832749
>I'm like, so over my spanking ways, yawn

 No.1834121

>>1834097
i mean yeah i don't think it came out of nowhere lol, here's one of his videos from 2010

 No.1834131

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one of the faces of the attempt at a new chilean constitution who was primarily known for wanting water to be nationalized is now openly calling for the return of the death penalty lmfao. 'leftist' moment

 No.1834134

>>1833781
Did you write this you fascist freak lol

 No.1834166

Do you think Charlie/MoistCritikal is a pedophile?

 No.1834170

>>1834166
other than the high baseline probability due to being a youtuber, no not really

 No.1834177

>>1834131
What's wrong with the death penalty?

 No.1834209

>>1834177
doesnt make sense from either a liberal or marxist pov

 No.1834210

>>1834209
I disagree on the second although agree with the first.
The first goes without saying.
Elaborate on the second plox?

 No.1834215

>>1834170
What about Markiplier

 No.1834218

>>1834177
>>1834210
No means can be excluded a priori - they have to be evaluated in terms of their usefulness for achieving the desired end. You admit this when you rule out forced labour etc. on grounds of utility rather than principle.

Communists don’t rule out genocide because of moral considerations, we rule it out because communism is a working class movement and wiping out an entire ethnicity - encompassing workers as well as capitalists - is completely inimical to the success of that movement. The same can’t be said of forced labour and mass killings, because means of compulsion such as these will be required to defeat the bourgeoisie - which is sure to violently resist any revolution - and end capitalist relations.

For example, in 1935 a law was ratified that allowed the death penalty to be applied for children as young as 12 years for stealing. This reflects the bourgeois nature of Soviet law. :)

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 No.1834221

>>1834210
>Punishment in general has been defended as a means either of ameliorating or of intimidating. Now what right have you to punish me for the amelioration or intimidation of others? And besides there is history — there is such a thing as statistics - which prove with the most complete evidence that since Cain the world has been neither intimidated nor ameliorated by punishment. Quite the contrary. From the point of view of abstract right, there is only one theory of punishment which recognizes human dignity in the abstract, and that is the theory of Kant, especially in the more rigid formula given to it by Hegel. Hegel says: “Punishment is the right of the criminal. It is an act of his own will. The violation of right has been proclaimed by the criminal as his own right. His crime is the negation of right. Punishment is the negation of this negation, and consequently an affirmation of right, solicited and forced upon the criminal by himself.”
>There is no doubt something specious in this formula, inasmuch as Hegel, instead of looking upon the criminal as the mere object, the slave of justice, elevates him to the position of a free and self-determined being. Looking, however, more closely into the matter, we discover that German idealism here, as in most other instances, has but given a transcendental sanction to the rules of existing society. Is it not a delusion to substitute for the individual with his real motives, with multifarious social circumstances pressing upon him, the abstraction of “free will” — one among the many qualities of man for man himself? … Is there not a necessity for deeply reflecting upon an alteration of the system that breeds these crimes, instead of glorifying the hangman who executes a lot of criminals to make room only for the supply of new ones?
ill let you guess who wrote this

 No.1834223

>>1834215
no but like every other youtuber it wouldn't surprise me, they all have easy access to young devoted fans

 No.1834224

>>1834218
I'd like to return to the substance of your argument later, but to begin with I fail to see how your argument makes the death penalty for the bourgeoisie etc illicit.

 No.1834231

>>1834224
Death penalty implies the national bourgeois keep existing under your DotP which would make it not a DotP in the first place. Killing the bourgeois during a revolution, or killing foreign bourgeois in retaliation as your DotP works with other DotPs to expand the movement and achieve communism, has nothing to do with death penalty at all. It only makes sense strictly under non-socialism.

 No.1834247

>>1834223
My favorite thing is when people get surprised that a youtubers a creep as if its not even more surprising when it turns out one isn't.

 No.1834262

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Modern online discourse for old games is pretty much all zoomers who never played the game but watched the spergiest video essay dorks in existence waffling endless horseshit about it (20x longer than 100%ing a game would take) discussing their personal hallucinated version of the game with each other.

 No.1834271

>>1834262
People watching vids about media instead of watching/playing it, is a really sad phenomenon.

 No.1834283

New X meme supports Pedophilia and fantasizes about "Child Girlfriends"
https://twitter.com/WholesomeOrenji/status/1781325410506277084

The new X meme has multiple variations, users created multiple versions and spread them fantasizing about dating a very young girl what do you think leftypol?

 No.1834285

>>1833354
the way that cunts can watch a lie be formed in real time and still believe it through it's sheer utility is the axis on which the based cringe dialectic turns.


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