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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's hyper-normalization of petty internet drama.
Make sure to check and consider to read the reading list!

Reminder That None of This Is Real!

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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7oEabMTmEww2oeqWuoI3wL-PyJmo2Vbv

<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7oEabMTmEwynPKHnsxfdpM7jq68JN8vL

>The Culture Industry: Enlightenment as Mass Deception from Dialectic of Enlightenment (1944) by Theodore Adorno & Max Horkheimer

📓 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/adorno/1944/culture-industry.htm
📖 • https://libcom.org/article/dialectic-enlightenment-philosophical-fragments-theodor-adorno-and-marx-horkheimer
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7oEabMTmEwxFYWxXQ3mhdPFAqzaC5d2z

<Discipline and Punish (1975) by Michel Foucault

📖 • https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/michel-foucault-discipline-and-punishment
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7oEabMTmEwxr7D9HUhMnbam2Yh9rxPin

>Simulacra and Simulation (1981) by Jean Baudrillard

📖 • https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=DBF3E860993373223D72E98FADF0F2DC
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7oEabMTmEww4BP9g03lhoAL79zf_qZMX

<Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media (1988) by Edward S. Herman & Noam Chomsky

📖 • https://libcom.org/article/manufacturing-consent-political-economy-mass-media-noam-chomsky-and-edward-s-herman
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7oEabMTmEwyWgXldbUfHRU2C7G_pnmfh

>The Sublime Object of Ideology (1989) by Slavoj Zizek

📖 • https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=054E022C8BD24EE2C5595B575BCED7DC
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7oEabMTmEwyYw_qleRMbG_ButG5cXLSe

<Postscript on the Societies of Control (1990) by Gilles Deleuze

📖 • https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/gilles-deleuze-postscript-on-the-societies-of-control
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7oEabMTmEwzT37X6qTM9aprSsZwfIVGB

>Postmodernism, or, the Cultural Logic of Late Capitalism (1991) by Fredric Jameson

📖 • https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=5BD20E0E22FC8BC2CB4F8A7760D57027
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7oEabMTmEwwpfwZshVw631SUuXI0T5tw

<Spectres of Marx (1993) by Jacques Derrida

📖 • https://libcom.org/library/specters-marx-jacques-derrida
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7oEabMTmEwxwyxbQE4oQ_zFAOm00VlBy

>Capitalist Realism: Is There No Alternative (2009) by Mark Fisher

📖 • https://libcom.org/article/capitalist-realism-mark-fisher
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7oEabMTmEwy0syEzQU81XRAeHtHZBCQ1

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SUPPLEMENTARY MATERIAL

>Precursor Material to Post-modernity and Critical Theory

📖 • Karl Marx - Book 1, Chapter 4 of Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts (1844)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/labour.htm
📺 • Why Marx Was Right: Alienation - PlasticPills
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPRxxN4Kh30

📖 • Antonio Gramsci - Book 1, Chapter 1 of Selections from the Prison Notebooks (1929)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/gramsci/prison_notebooks/problems/intellectuals.htm
📺 • Hegemony: WTF? An introduction to Gramsci and cultural hegemony - Tom Nicholas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LI_2-qsovo

📖 • Louis Althusser - Ideology and Ideological State Apparatuses (1970)
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/althusser/1970/ideology.htm
📺 • Althusser's Concept of Ideology: A Discussion with Anthony Gavin - Acid Horizon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtOqXxkKwvw

<On Neo-Liberalism and Post-Fordism

[Work in progress]

>Documentaries

Manufacturing Consent (1992) by Mark Achbar & Peter Wintonick, with Noam Chomsky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li2m3rvsO0I

The Pervert's Guide to Cinema (2006) by Sophie Fiennes, with Slavoj Zizek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYuI4SFw4g0

HyperNormalisation (2006) by Adam Curtis
https://youtu.be/thLgkQBFTPw

The Pervert's Guide to Ideology (2012) by Sophie Fiennes, with Slavoj Zizek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBcFLmu_tlc


<Easy-Bake Breadtube (for absolute beginners)

We're All Fake Now - Wisecrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTW1mPOJJ_Y

Are Cell Phones Replacing Reality? - PBS Idea Channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AXIAM7dTTg

The Cultural Significance of Cyberpunk - Cuck Philosophy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvor7hhDKTs

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RECOMMENDED OP-EDS
I Don’t Want to Be an Internet Person by Ginevra Davis
https://www.palladiummag.com/2022/11/04/i-do-not-want-to-be-an-internet-person/

Pluralistic: Tiktok's enshittification by Cory Doctorow
https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys

Facebook's Threads is so depressing by Jason O. Gilbert
https://jogblog.substack.com/p/facebooks-threads-is-so-depressing
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 No.1696189

>>1696187
While not inherently fascist per se, it has elements that appeal to the fascist psyche.

 No.1696191

>>1696180
I’m sorry I guess I just think that not actively defending fascist propaganda is an uncontroversial socialist position, but clearly if said propaganda is superficially cute and makes you horny then it’s okay according to leftypol

 No.1696192

Bros what are the fascist implications of vid related?

 No.1696193

>>1696189
anime is bourgeoisie, not proletariat.

 No.1696194

The anime fandom is a victim of actual pedophiles. Anime itself is innocent, but pedophiles take it and put their own sick ideas onto it and then everyone in the fandom is lumped in by guilt by association. Similar to the worst elements of Bronies. We can't cede anime to pedophiles or fascists.

 No.1696198

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how do people think imageboards are better than social media when not only are they dying but what little userbase is left is mostly retards trying to kill any attempt at discussion and the lack of pseudonyms means you cant filter anything lol

 No.1696199

>>1696198
the base determines the superstructure, therefore it is all the mods fault

 No.1696200

>>1696198
It's just two retards' back and forth with each other. They should just make their own thread and fuck off

 No.1696202

>>1696199
It's not the mods' fault. They made a whole containment board for anime faggotry but the anime fags refuse to be contained.

>>>/anime/

 No.1696203

>>1696200
this happens multiple times a day on leftypol despite consisting of under 20 "regular" users

 No.1696204

>>1696199
You mean the format.

 No.1696205

>>1696203
/leftypol/ tourism is booming because of all the Palestine shit and chinletjak

 No.1696206

>>1696203
there is like 300 different ips per day according to the site

 No.1696210

>>1696198
>how do people think imageboards are better than social media when not only are they dying but what little userbase is left is mostly retards trying to kill any attempt at discussion and the lack of pseudonyms means you cant filter anything lol
>,he said in the thread for replying to twitter posts on a whole nother website.

 No.1696212

>>1696206
With dynamic IPs and IPv6 I doubt all those IPs belong to different people. Also almost all of the traffic is concentrated in the geopolitical "happening" threads (and coincidentally they're the worst too).

 No.1696213

>>1696212
This thread is undoubtedly the worst.

 No.1696215

>>1696213
Proportionally, yes. It's less active than those threads I mentioned yet still has constant shitstorms. I don't know why it gets a pass despite being on the main board.

 No.1696217

>>1696215
The only reason it's here is because Siberia is a porn board

 No.1696219

>>1696217
Even the OP presents the thread as a serious thing yet the posts are consistently low quality. Any attempt of actually discussing social media phenomena gets shut down by a flood of bait.

 No.1696230

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>>1696198
Why do you think we're all on twitter, fediverse and/or matrix?

 No.1696233

Did Caleb delete the Washington monument video? Can't find it no matter what I try. I unironically scanned his entire YouTube and Facebook feeds for the original. I have it downloaded but I need the original page

 No.1696235

>>1696198
They're both shit and I'm here reluctantly

 No.1696237

>>941093
>>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
This book is so overrated

 No.1696269

>>1696197
everything in bourgeois society is bourgeois…

 No.1696271

Real schizo hours now.

 No.1696273

>>1696237
You're overrated, and that's saying something because no one has anything good to say about you.

 No.1696274

>>1696271
Schizo is a glow insult designed against people like me with a creative sense of reality.

 No.1696284

>>1696274
Do you prefer the term “reality-capable?”

 No.1696322

>>1696219
It was originally called the Internet Trash General. It was created because all these twitterfags were spamming the catalogue with endless threads about e-celeb drama. Then they changed the OP to what it is currently to make them seem self-aware.

>I'm obsessed with e-celeb drama

>but le ironically

 No.1696335

>Twitch are using AI to detect Mountain Dew products in peoples streams and have a bot post ads for Mountain Dew products in their chat due to a paid collaboration between the two companies.

thank you Porky, this is so much better than an inhabitable biosphere

 No.1696338

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>>1696198
>Dying
You are not kidding.
https://4stats.io/

 No.1696391

unfortunately it seems hbomb's new video is not only going to set any understanding of copyright as a tool of capitalism, but an understanding of the labour theory of value back literal decades. lots of reactionary and staunchly liberal rhetoric in it in general, among other things. i hold no love for video 'essayists' but this is still incredibly disappointing and the worse i watch the worse it gets, actually. full on anti-piracy, small business mindset. i won't commentate on it further because i think it's a waste of time but it's just bad. really bad

 No.1696399

You're not a revolutionary unless you follow theodore adorno's mantra
>>1696391
In the grand scheme of things, most youtubers are plagiarists in some form or another. Internet historian isn't particularly unique. Twitter libs just dislike him because he has a channer vibe mainly.

 No.1696401

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>>1696391
Artists are getting proletarian, programmers were always proles. This is why you get so many meme obsessives and other "creative" sorts turning to reaction while programmers are fucking over ad revenue and other sorts of shit.

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 No.1696420

>>1696401
>right-wing eugene

 No.1696428

>>1696401
Programmers are the best example of labour aristocracy around, what the fuck are you talking about you fucking moron. Just because a group of hackers did a cool thing once or twice doesn't somehow absolve the ideological cesspit that is the info tech industry.

 No.1696431

>>1696428
Nah. They're just well paid artisans.

 No.1696434

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>see an Atlus PR account posted this and got reverted a week later
>check replies
<Good I hope they got fired
<Thank god. We can start the healing process now 😭 (and the ritual sacrifice)
<bullying works <3
<that employee got taken out back and shot (good)
People really care more about fictional characters than the livelihood of real people, huh.

 No.1696439

>>1696434
I do feel for the person who posted this, but cmon man, you should have known better

 No.1696442

>>1696439
yeah, i think the punishment wasn't deserved but like don't just start shotaposting on the company account

 No.1696448

>>1696434
theres always been people going "ermm im a Normal persona fan" like there used to be some who considered Persona 1 and 2 to be the only "moral" ones years ago. but now you have people who fervently eat the whole series up while convincing themselves the games arent made for otaku perverts. sad!

>>1696439
idk, i mean its completely in line what atlus licenses, also i dont think they got fired its just internet hyperbole (i hope)

 No.1696460

>>1696434
>People really care more about fictional characters than the livelihood of real people, huh.
Something something spectacle, what is fake is real yadda yadda.

 No.1696471

>>1696434
>wow how come somebody got fired for openly promoting pedophilia on the company twitter account?
The tweet is literally encouraging pedos to find each other.

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The youtube recommends lol.

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 No.1696518

>>1696512
this is what the average person gets injected straight into their veins 24/7

 No.1696525

>>1696512
The comments seem like a mixed bag of pro and anti-union sentiment.

I get the feeling that youtube in particular is pretty far-right from what I can tell. A constant drip of anti-woke content mill drivel and drama between ecelebs will create an environment that is actively hostile to the idea of cooperation.

 No.1696569

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Anyone thinking leftypol or twitter are filled with drama should take a quick glance at a random mastodon/pleroma instance. They're so bad, holy shit.

 No.1696579

>>1696525
>The comments seem like a mixed bag of pro and anti-union sentiment.
That actually sounds pretty good for the comments on an Elon Musk video.


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