Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 11:08:27 No. 489761
Unfortunately I don't have enough knowledge of Kazakh politics to give you a takr
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 11:09:54 No. 489763
>>489761 Who does?
That's why i opened the thread, to gather some infos and comment the events
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 11:13:13 No. 489766
>>489763 >Who does? Likely no one since this is an english language forum
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 11:18:05 No. 489769
>>489763 Try the Russian language thread
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 11:22:44 No. 489772
>>489769 If anons from there want to comment here they're welcome and encouraged.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 11:33:05 No. 489778
>>489775 Damn look at em go
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 11:36:03 No. 489781
https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1478690672026828804 Government building in Aktobe (on the North of the country, near Russia) getting stormed by protestors too.
Shit seems escalating without pause.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 11:38:27 No. 489783
Kremlin spox: 'we are convinced that our Kazakh friends can independently solve their internal problems.'
"Nur-Sultan (Kazakh capital) has NOT requested assistance from Moscow in dealing with the current crisis in Kazakhstan - 'it is important that no one interferes from the outside''
https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1478691684229779466 Getting more and more intricated.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:10:43 No. 489791
Probably set up by US glowies, Kazakhstan was in the Russian/Chinese sphere of influence, yeah?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:11:58 No. 489793
>>489791 Without Kazakhstan half of the land part of BRI is fucked up.
Also yeah they share thousands of km of border with Russia and pretty much are in their sphere of influence.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:12:39 No. 489796
>>489788 Very very very few.
This kind of shit never leads to anything good.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:15:01 No. 489799
Sputnik correspondent taken hostage by protestors in Almaty.
Yeah this shit has written Maidan all over it.
https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1478699946450763779 Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:15:36 No. 489801
>>489793 There a chance the Chinese and Russians might need to get involved, then?
Depending on who’s influencing the protests, there may be parties involved that want a chaotic civil war in Kazakhstan
Fuck no matter what the US seems to be the decisive player in world politics, if humanity will always bow before the Yankee then humanity deserves its death
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:17:12 No. 489806
>>489801 If shit goes sideways they'll be pretty much forced to get involved.
A NATO-aligned Kazakhstan means complete encirclement for BOTH Russia and China.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:18:01 No. 489809
>>489804 <NOOOOOO You cannot recognize patterns Dude get a grip
Grillpilled Schizo 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:18:21 No. 489812
>>489785 Single most racist movie ever made. Fucking Goebels wouldn't be able to replicate it if he tried. The fact that its beloved by Americanoid liberals is just icing on the cake.
Imagine if you made a movie that starts with a black man living in a black-only community that's located in a trashed out ruined ghetto with trashbags everywhere. Then he introduces his neighbour the cracknsalesman and talks about celebrating the next anual Hotep festival where they will all have KFC and watermelon eating contest, after which they will go on to see who lootsled the most small busnesses, who raped the most white women and who commited most balck-on-black violance over the last year. Now imagine all that I just said, but the racism is now targeted at post-Soviet countries. Now you got Borat.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:19:12 No. 489815
the early worker's movement had it fucking easy. they didn't have to check if an insurrection was genuine or not.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:21:45 No. 489820
>>489809 The human tendency to recognize patterns can be a blessing and a curse. At least wait until details come out regarding the protestors, what various governments say about it, etc. The assumption that any uprising is a colour revolution is one of the most depressing manifestations of pessimism among socialists.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:23:14 No. 489823
>>489817 >Collapses government of one of the few remaining pro-Soviet states that was an integral part of the BRI and one of Russia and China’s few reliable allies <Not suspicious as fuck This has glow radiating all over it, friendo
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:23:55 No. 489826
>>489817 This is true, but chilling signs are showing,like for example protesters demanding vague bullshit like "Parliamentarian democracy" which is a telling sign of liberalism among the protestors.
>>489820 Any not explicitly socialist uprising is indeed a color revolution, this goes by definition of the term.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:24:02 No. 489829
>>489820 Has there been a single uprising that successfully collapsed a government that wasn’t supported by the CIA and fat porky fucks in the past 22 years?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:24:24 No. 489832
>>489823 >one of the few remaining pro-Soviet states they had some of the harshest anti-communist purges out of the entire post-soviet bloc lmao
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:25:12 No. 489835
>>489812 Yeah it's a pretty degrading film but it also takes the piss out of burgers.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:25:12 No. 489838
>>489832 Eh, will, the populace then
Either way this whole fiasco seems glowed to shit
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:26:45 No. 489843
>>489829 Yemen, in a sense. (the pro Saudi government did not collapse but has authority only on part of the country).
That's it.
>>489838 >>489841 For me there's an 80% likelihood of glow. Soon to give definitive verdicts but clues are already there.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:27:48 No. 489846
>>489843 So the answer is basically no :(
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:28:39 No. 489849
>>489826 >Any not explicitly socialist uprising is indeed a color revolution No a colour revolution is an uprising orchestrated by the CIA or other intelligence agents. The lack of an explicitly socialist character to an uprising doesn't mean it isn't an organic manifestation of a country's contradictions. In fact, revolutions sometimes don't develop a socialist character until after they succeed. Cuba is a good example of this.
>>489829 Arab Spring in Egypt. 2019 protests in Lebanon. Bolivia in 2020. Just off the top of my head.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:29:06 No. 489852
Also reminder that the Chinese region DIRECTLY NEXT to Kazakhstan is Xinjiang.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:30:49 No. 489854
>>489843 if the only revolutions that can happen anymore is glow-funded pretend revolutions then we truly live in the darkest timeline
fukuyamachads, i kneel
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:31:18 No. 489857
>>489817 the correct take. simple as.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:31:29 No. 489860
>>489849 Cuba happened in another historical setting.
Lebanon protests had some glowie infiltration (and lead overall to nothing of relevance).
Bolivia instead is a good example, but is like the only genuine example of that.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:35:02 No. 489865
>>489863 Kazakhstan by far, the bird and the sun just look too awesome, though Kyrgystan is good too. The rest range from meh to ugly
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:37:17 No. 489868
>>489863 Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan the worst flags, then Kazakhstan in the middle and Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan on top of my personal ranking.
Also Tajikistan gave us Abdu Rozik vs Hasbullah memes.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:42:40 No. 489873
I've heard some talk of the protesters wanting to enforce the 1993 constitution, any idea what that is about?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:44:53 No. 489875
>In Aralsk, Kyzylorda region protesters shutdown the railway road and highway. Demanding resignation of Tokayev, Nazarbayev and proclamation of Parliament republic in Kazakhstan. https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1478684658242146307 Very bad sign, when protests are on "muh corruption muh oligarchs" usually its because they are pozzed by liberalism
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:47:20 No. 489881
>>489875 there really do be people on this chan that have a flag and thus think they know everything about politics huh
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:48:45 No. 489884
PROTESTERS RAIDING A SMALL ARMS SHOP IN CENTRAL ALMATY https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1478694513346588673 This is going to end VERY badly.
>>489878 Caspian priates complete with Ekranoplan.
>>489881 Yep.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:50:19 No. 489887
>>489873 1993 constitution is parliamentary. To go out on a limb i imagine they want to replicate Kyrgyzstan which is a parliamentary republic and the only liberal democracy in the region.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:51:57 No. 489893
>As he strives to lead Kazakhstan protest, oligarch Mukhtar Ablyazov has published WhatsApp numbers of his HQ calling on people to connect and coordinate their actions. The numbers have Ukrainian prefixes. https://twitter.com/leonidragozin/status/1478705818489004040 This glows in undescribable ways.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:52:58 No. 489897
>>489895 It really is, but not in any pro socialist way shape or form as of now.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:53:22 No. 489900
>>489893 Tbf these kind of wanks never have influence. There are always some whenever something happens in the post soviet space.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 12:59:49 No. 489903
>>489758 >Also how do you think China and Russia will react to this? neither is gonna support the protests if you ask about this
I doubt that it will be another Maidan or something like this. But I am not sure if communists will play na important role. (and I remind you that Nazarbayev banned the communist party)
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:00:18 No. 489906
President Tokayev is speaking, saying that the restrictions will be harsher tomorrow and that he does not intend to leave the country.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:03:27 No. 489908
>>489906 So we're going for full acceleration at this point.
Let's see what will happen.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:04:25 No. 489912
>>489895 That tends to be an end result of most CIA color “revolutions”
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:05:50 No. 489916
>>489908 The pace of this is wild. The protests started literally like less than 24 hours ago. The Kazakh elite now that they are only in power as long as they are useful for Russia, the Russians will probs collaborate with the new regime as long as it isn't openly hostile, so are cracking down before they can get power.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:06:12 No. 489922
>>489912 Yes, like the February Revolution of 1917.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:08:09 No. 489925
>>489823 >few remaining pro-Soviet states Bruh they're teaching their own version of holodomor to their kids, you're confusing it with something else.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:09:54 No. 489928
>>489922 Figures dumbass tankoid fucks can’t actually discuss 21st Century politics, all you have is your eternal cope about an event that happened 80 years before you were even born
>>489925 Probably just getting mistaken
I know Kazakhstan has the most pro-Soviet population, was wrong about the government
Sage !61KGLATVW. 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:14:45 No. 489931
Let us try to establish certain facts:
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:15:02 No. 489933
>>489928 >Probably just getting mistaken >I know Kazakhstan has the most pro-Soviet population, was wrong about the government Lamo you have been speaking like an authority all of this thread and you then admit you know fuckall lamo.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:16:35 No. 489936
Xi is fucking fuming right now, the US got him beat.
Sage !61KGLATVW. 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:16:41 No. 489938
>>489871 the civilian protestors were also striking workers by the way, typical of the guardian to leave that out lmao
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:20:24 No. 489942
>>489936 If libs come out on top of this and of the Myanmar civil war China will be completely encircled by hostile states.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:23:06 No. 489947
>>489942 I don't see it, how so?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:24:01 No. 489954
>>489933 When did I speak as an authority? All I really said is that this seems glowed to shit because Kazakhstan is just factually in Russia and China’s sphere of influence, and curiously most countries that have “revolutions” this century that change nothing beyond creating social devastation and expanding NATO influencehave been Russian or Chinese allies
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:25:03 No. 489958
President Tokayev says that he is the chairman of security council from now, instead of Nazarbayev.
https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1478713537065369601 Nazarbayev was the big boss of Kazakh politics in the last 30 years, so this could be big.
>>489947 South Korea Philippines Taiwan to the East, Myanmar and India to the South,
(eventually) Kazakhstan to the West.
Maybe it's not a full encirclement but it'd get pretty fucking close to it in such a scenario.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:25:31 No. 489961
>>489958 Forgot to add Japan of course
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:25:42 No. 489965
>>489931 >Who is the current administration, what are their views and ideology, what are their allegiances geopolitically, how have they managed the country? Kazakhstan has been ruled by the same political elite since the collapse of the Soviet Union. Nursultan Nazarbayev was in charge until 2019 when he retired, having been a KPSS apprachnik since his youth. He took control of the SSR in 1984. The current president is his handpicked successor Kassym-Jomart Tokayev, he himself has a history in the soviet diplomatic corps, working close in China. Ideologically they are effectively Authoritarian Centrists, and rule a dominant party structure like Russia. Kazakhstan is geopolitically aligned with Russia and to China, although maintains pretty friendly relations with the West.
Literally sprung up overnight, caused by a doubling in the cost of fuel (Kazakhstan is a petrostate where much of their welfare can be boiled down to "fuel cheap"). We do not know much else about that apart from the fact they have been willing to be violent in the face of APCs, but also let security forces collaborate with them. The only demand articulated thus far, apart from the reduction of fuel prices, has been the reversion to the 1993 constitution: which would enshrine a parliamentary constitution like the only other liberal democracy in the region, Kyrgyzstan. Apart from that, we know fuckall: all of this has happened literally within 24 hours. The only flags they have, when they have flags, are Kazakh ones.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:26:20 No. 489968
>>489954 >"When did I speak as an authority" Right you have just been making statements about the nature of revolution as a disinterested party…
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:27:04 No. 489971
>>489951 Tokayev sounding an awful lot like Tokarev.
Nomen omen?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:28:47 No. 489974
>>489968 >Nature of revolution You mean I refused to just blindly support some movement that collapsed one of the few staunchly Russian and Chinese aligned governments left?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:32:42 No. 489980
>>489942 What libs? There's one exiled oligarch trying to get himself involved but he's getting ignored. There's no opposition clique trying to take power at this point.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:32:49 No. 489983
>>489954 I'm almost certain that's Washington's intention striking at central Asia as an attempt to contain China is definitely Washington's strategic plan
I don't see it working out in Washington's favour here though
>>489958 Most of those aren't really all that hostile to China even india
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:33:49 No. 489986
Something about this whole thing just seems off to me:>China completely silent >Russia already said they have no desire to intervene
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:34:55 No. 489989
>>489986 Bruh its clear you have no idea what you are talking about. Russia historically steps back from revolutions in Central Asia because it knows it can work with the successor governments due to the fact their governments are so dependentment on Russia. See: Kyrgyzstan (three times), also Armenia.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:35:16 No. 489992
>>489980 <He's getting ignored Are you sure about that?
Asking cause it'd be positive if liberal glowies were sidelined, but i have no info on that.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:36:05 No. 489995
>>489986 their plan is probably to let the public figures with ire take the fall, install a new guy a la
>>489951 >>489958 then let them work up to security-stateism. without a unifying figure to protest against the protests will lose unity, and they can be bargained with or crushed individually.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:36:22 No. 489999
>>489992 These people are always ignored, even during Belarus the "Expat Organisers" nobody gave a fuck about them. All of this has happened in less than 24hrs, no way the oligarch expat NGOs have gotten in.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:36:41 No. 490002
>>489989 That could be true, but what if a pro NATO government sprungs out of all his shit?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:36:58 No. 490006
>>489977 Also this
I believe the statement that it is “always darkest before the dawn” is profoundly true in a historical sense
The first communist revolution began amidst the darkness, death, and devastation of the First World War
When the fascists held nearly all of the world in their hands, fighting a war with a different faction of western imperialists, and piercing its way to strike at the very heart of the revolution, when all hope seemed truly lost and the Wehrmacht marched on Moscow after taking almost all of Europe, the working class defeated them and destroyed that iteration of fascism
Even the liberal revolutions occurred in a backdrop of suffering, darkness, and death
The new socialist movement is emerging in a period of 50 years of wage stagnation, with most of mankind having become proletarianized, while the imperialists of the world promise death and suffering beyond imagination, either in the form of a Third World War or the culmination of ecological ruin, the pandemic has only been a preview of the mass death they promise us
And in this darkest night the Sun may rise again
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:38:06 No. 490009
>>490002 It never happens because Russia negotiates. Also Central Asians love Russia lol, there is a reason they all move there.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:39:19 No. 490013
>>489999 Belarus shit had way less traction though from the onset, it was just Minsk practically.
>>489995 Interesting insight, it could very well be then. It's a risky strategy though, especially if things go sideways.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:40:24 No. 490016
>>490002 That's not going to control gas prices
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:40:42 No. 490019
>>489992 Going by the info written in
>>489919 Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:42:05 No. 490024
https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1478722807668346885 http://Orda.kz sources. Weapons also capturedShit is getting VERY REAL.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:42:22 No. 490026
>>490006 abolitionist movement did this too, Haiti emerged and it'simplications fucking rocked europe to it's core for nearly a century despite the near total spectrum control the settler-colonial prject held.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:45:13 No. 490029
>https://twitter.com/lettera_mosca/status/1478723377879781376 It's happening fast.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:45:34 No. 490032
REPORTS PROTESTERS ARE TRYING TO TOPPLE A NAZARBAYEV STATUE
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:46:57 No. 490034
Anyone knows of Communist elements in Kazaghsthan?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:49:53 No. 490037
>>489933 >speaking like an authority all of this thread and you then admit you know fuckall green flag in a nutshell
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:50:05 No. 490040
Real talk:
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:51:30 No. 490045
>>490034 Yeah the communist movement is underground.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:51:37 No. 490048
>>490040 This is either the first piercing of the dawn
A reminder that the Sun may rise again
Or the night deepening in its darkness
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:53:06 No. 490051
>>489812 >>489835 You’re both correct, I’d say. But Borat does have that problem of lacking the clarity of purpose necessary for people to get that it’s satire
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:54:13 No. 490057
>>490040 You better believe NATO will try to get bases in there. They might even have been trying to precipitate such a situation just for that reason. Which means that any
burger comrades need to actually put up
meaningful resistance when the US starts sabre rattling or mobilizing against whatever ends up happening in Kazakhstan.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:55:56 No. 490060
Clashes between police and protesters in Pavlodar:
https://t.me/seychas_kg/11656 Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:57:41 No. 490064
The office of the prosecutor general has been burnt:
https://t.me/seychas_kg/11660 Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:58:11 No. 490066
Airport in Aktau has stopped working:
https://t.me/seychas_kg/11661 🍀 Shay 🍀 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:58:19 No. 490071
these are the two biggest opposition parties and therefore the most important focus of the protests. The second biggest party in kazakhstan, the centre-right democratic party;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ak_Zhol_Democratic_Party The third largest party, the left-wing peoples' party of kazakhstan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Party_of_Kazakhstan The banned communist party of kazakhstan;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Kazakhstan Altogether, the opposition may prove to be largely communist in nature, because that's how post-soviet states work. Most likely, the west will try its best to support the democratic party, though the left has a chance to take over the protests and gain governmental control too. It's a gamble.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:58:46 No. 490074
>>490051 Given some of the things Sacha Baron Cohen said promoting Borat 2 he's probably just a complete shitter. He's got completely fucked attitudes toward women and politics, saying shit to the effect of "how dare you call yourself a woman if you don't vote for Biden?" and has a similar attitude toward the US as the stereotype used against Kazakhstan. The sequel more than the original made it pretty clear that he's just your typical (Zionist) Brit hating on the US and the people of Asia.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 13:59:49 No. 490077
>>490071 Don't do that Shay, don't give me hope.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:01:03 No. 490082
>>490071 So far I haven't seen any signs of any of them being involved in the protests, what the fuck do you mean "focus of the protests".
People want cheap gas.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:01:23 No. 490085
>>490068 I remember the Belarusians trying to do this a couple of weeks in, if it is happening organically the government is fucked. This has as much of an impact as a general strike on the economy of the nation.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:03:41 No. 490088
>>490085 Would be a pity if other people took note.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:03:55 No. 490091
>>490074 Anglia delenda est. Fuckers starved my ancestors and then partitioned their country.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:04:25 No. 490094
>>490040 >If this is socialist oriented m8 i wish i could be as optimistic as you while reading news
pic related was just posted by an ukrainian on kohlchan /int/. all the obvious burger glow uyghurs there are rejoicing about the habbenings in kazakhstan
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:06:47 No. 490100
Well that escalated quickly.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:07:11 No. 490103
>>490094 I said above in
>>489843 that the likelihood of glow was high indeed anon.
Also the rest of the post tells what would happen in the worst case.
🍀 Shay 🍀 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:07:25 No. 490106
>>490082 >people want cheap gas Yes, but they wont remain directionless forever. Someone will take advantage of the unrest one way or another. The protestors currently seem to be doing some major damage to the kazakh political system at the moment. Currently they're winning it seems, but that might change once the government mobilizes a defence. The question is, WHO WILL DIRECT THE DIRECTIONLESS PROTESTS
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:08:31 No. 490109
>>490106 >WHO WILL DIRECT THE DIRECTIONLESS PROTESTS Nobody, they will get gunned down like 10 years ago.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:12:25 No. 490115
>>489785 >>490074 It's time for kazakhstan to redeem themselves from humiliation.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:16:05 No. 490125
cool, cool
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:19:13 No. 490132
>>490127 You've never seen Central Asians fight have you?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:20:13 No. 490138
>>490109 Revolutions are always propelled on the momentum of short term, immediate issues. The French Revolution happened because people wanted cheap bread. Maybe somebody will come in to galvanize this into a proper movement, maybe not. However these short term concerns shouldn't be dismissed as unrelated to real revolutionary change.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:24:20 No. 490145
>>490135 If this was USA orchestrated, winning would be the last thing that happened
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:24:41 No. 490148
>>490103 the worst case is a large scale war soon, because this is quite likely the opening of a second front under russia's belly amidst an already highly explosive situation. the burgers are escalating further.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:27:48 No. 490151
Are the CIA with us inn this thread with us too schizos?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:28:31 No. 490153
>>490151 Yes, it's a matter of public record that some ""people"" in the janitor team work for langley.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:30:47 No. 490160
>>489758 Idrk about that overall situation, but if such events were real it would have been Langley-orchestrated ones.
What's their goal first place?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:33:56 No. 490167
>>490160 >What's their goal first place? Gas for 50.
As long as this remains their slogan and demand the protest is glow proof, no lib "opposition" can do shit about gas prices
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:35:12 No. 490174
>>490167 They already obtained gas for 80 tenge, and for 50 in a region though.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:36:27 No. 490180
Time to call upon the general intellect of leftypol:PROTESTS GLOW OR LEGIT?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:36:45 No. 490183
>>490160 They don't know
This is like when the dog catches the car it's chasing
Doubt comrade Xi or Putin will be losing any sleep over this other than the human cost to Kazakhs if things keep going out of control
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:36:54 No. 490187
>>490178 Bro KPRF are pro-putin
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:37:29 No. 490190
>>490180 0.5 because I’m not sure yet
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:37:35 No. 490193
>>490180 both simultaneously
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:39:43 No. 490202
>>490196 >the manlet disowned them Didn't stop Zyuganov from licking his balls and swearing loyalty right after the election
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:40:07 No. 490206
>>490187 Isn't that just most of the old fucks in the party? Afaik the youth wing is much more radical
Also I'm pretty sure they got raided so Putin gave up on them
🍀 Shay 🍀 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:43:11 No. 490214
>>490180 >glow or legit Bro people need to shut the fuck up lol. Let me explain it simply.
>if the democratic party takes over the protests, they are glow <if the peoples party and the banned communist party take over the protests, it is legit Simple as.
bloodgasm 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:51:33 No. 490223
>>490180 Dubs: its a glow
Trips: its legit
Quads USSR 2.0 confirmed
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:53:14 No. 490226
>>490214 this
the protest is in a quantum state right now
it has yet to have the wave function collapsed
and moreover outside "observation" is going to reduce it to more binary results than if allowed to follow an organic progression.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:54:17 No. 490229
>>490180 Idk, so 0.5 too, like
>>490190 Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:57:01 No. 490232
ALMATY AIRPORT SEIZED BY PROTESTERS
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 14:58:30 No. 490234
>>490232 You mean better and better
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:03:00 No. 490237
Half of my family lives near almata, they say everyone is pissed off at the government.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:03:53 No. 490239
>>490234 >>490237 Is corruption rife, and growth sucked?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:05:31 No. 490242
>>490234 This
We just cant stop winning glowiebros
🍀 Shay 🍀 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:07:13 No. 490245
>ITT: russian and american glowies judging protests about gas prices before they even have any economic or political demands
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:12:08 No. 490251
>>490242 Ebin. Yellow vests were glowing too?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:16:21 No. 490254
Lmao, the elites are fleeing to russia with the shadow president or hiding in the capital.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:19:09 No. 490256
Yeah thinking about it Washington has a strategic goal to try and get the central Asian states to form a geopolitical bloc as a counterweight to China but this doesn't help make one in the slightest
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:22:14 No. 490258
>>490239 On a fishing trip there 3 years ago, my uncle drove me through the country side and showed how the roads get worse the further you from almaty, there are villages full of men waiting on the street for work. And told me how corrupt and worthless the government was. And he is a well of software engineer.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:25:13 No. 490263
>>490261 tbf uzbek been getting away with cleanest pussy in the land
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:27:55 No. 490267
>>490251 France has no geopolitical importance to us, a key BRI member on the other hand….
We must stop those evil chinks and ruskies from getting too upitty and disrupting profits for us capitalCHADS
Sage !61KGLATVW. 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:29:03 No. 490270
What indicators are there this is a glow op and not merely a changing of the guard to what will amount to the same situation?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:31:47 No. 490272
>>490267 >France has no geopolitical importance to us, Glowuygha you aint glowin.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:32:00 No. 490276
>>490270 It wont be a changing of the guard, there is no guard to change to. If the kazakh elite is brought down it will either be a foreign one or something way more based.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:32:38 No. 490280
>>490258 >What indicators are there this is a glow op i can't believe that /leftypol/ has become this ignorant. this thread is full of glow uyghurs
🍀 Shay 🍀 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:34:34 No. 490286
>>490270 >What indicators are there this is a glow op and not merely a changing of the guard to what will amount to the same situation? Please refer to
>>490214 Sage !61KGLATVW. 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:34:38 No. 490290
>>490280 I’m talking about solid stuff, not circumstantial evidences and opinions
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:35:42 No. 490297
>>490254 >police join protest without question Seems someone's being generous with funds to me.
Sage !61KGLATVW. 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:36:25 No. 490300
>>490280 And I only ask because this is an administration Tony Blair did spin for against striking workers being shot dead.
>>490286 Okay and what’s livelyhood/ evidence of either
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:36:46 No. 490302
>>490272 >we should topple a governement that already does everything we tell them to because reasons Genius! Looks like we've got future CIA director over here
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:36:58 No. 490304
>>490297 that or the protest in question is of petite-bouj character
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:37:55 No. 490306
Nothingburger
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:38:18 No. 490308
>>490304 >>490297 Or the government is so unpopular that even its enforcers want no part of it, like the Cossacks in February 1917.
Sage !61KGLATVW. 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:38:29 No. 490310
>>490276 I mean, the other option then is that it won’t immediately lose all power. Though it seems like it is doing so. In that situation, it will be some kind of military government, but the president is also the head of the armed forces. But that is basically what the government is anyway, so, would just end up a changing of the guard. Long term obviously that has its own consequences
Grillpilled Schizo 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:40:35 No. 490312
Folks, what is going on in Kazakhstan is nothing more than an another MALTHUSIAN CIA BACKED COLOUR REVOLUTION! The old government of Kazakhstan is a friend to the working families of the nation. It participates in the socialist anti-imperialist economic trade with Russia and China. Folks, they want to loot Kazakhstan folks. No two ways about it. And look, first thing they do is pull down statues of Nazerbayev. You know what was the first thing that anti-soviet colour revolutions did? That's right folks, they pulled down statues of Lenin, and now they are doing it Nazerbayev. And I was actually in the same room as Nazerbayev when I was in Russia and let me tell you he is a great guy and now they are trying to destroy the cultural heritage of his image in Khazakhstan. Unbelievable! I know why they are doing this folks. Its because THEY are cruel and sociopathic.
Sage !61KGLATVW. 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:40:43 No. 490313
If there is no organised opposition. It’s not going to be good. Sorry anarcho bros. Unless it’s an underground opposition doing the whole thing, in which case it could be super based, but that remains conjecture and fan fiction at this point
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:42:41 No. 490317
>>675051
Sage !61KGLATVW. 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:44:25 No. 490318
>>490315 >protests that have turned the police and so forth happened literally over night Big doubt, I’m going to work now but I would suggest people try and look into the build up of this. If there is none, the glowdar goes beep beep beep
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:44:35 No. 490320
>>490315 This
Nothing to see here folks
Just a spontaneous collapse of a state that has absolutely no relation to america's two great competitors
Grillpilled Schizo 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:47:05 No. 490322
>>675051 >NOOOOO I must see le based symbol in a protest or its not worth it Log the fuck off.
>>490320 Reminder that the paper tiger of western glowie orgs absolutely shat the bed in the 90's and failed to predict both the Berlin wall falling and the collapse of USSR. You are a fucking retard shadowboxing your own paranoia if you think anything benefiting the US is also caused by the US.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:48:05 No. 490324
the US is incompetent and does nothing ever
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:52:09 No. 490328
https://www.reuters.com/markets/asia/kazakh-gas-revolt-is-timely-canary-coalmine-2022-01-05/ Hrrrm
Interesting thing is we aren't seeing the full court press about ebil ebil dictator must go that's part of the colour revolution playbook
Sage !61KGLATVW. 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:53:13 No. 490329
>>490322 >haha >glowies have no power since the 90s haha >9/11/ Afghan war/ Iraq war/ collapse of Yugoslavia/ countless other shit / Syria/ Venezuela/ Bolivia/ Bro shhh
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:53:13 No. 490331
>People protest because of gas prices/inflation <Is this CIA glow op? Pathetic
>>490320 Socialism isnt when you support one bourgeois state against another
>>490261 Kek
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:55:10 No. 490335
>>489758 What if this is the MSS first attempt at actually overthrowing a government? Maybe that's why it feels so wonky due to lack of experience.
Grillpilled Schizo 2022-01-05 (Wed) 15:56:52 No. 490337
>>490329 >9/11 Drink your meds, Bush didn't do it. You only believe it because you read he did it 100 times from brainrotten idiots.
>Afghan war Which was a direct war? And also one that fucking failed horribly. Not adding to my confidance of US deepstate.
>Iraq war Again, direct fucking war, not colour revolution.
>Collapse of Yugoslavia Shit collapsed on it self when they realized IMF isn't their friend and when a retard with a bottle in his ass accidentaly set off the spark. Try harder.
>Syria Didn't succeed
>Venezuela Another failure
>Bolivia Even bigger failure
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:00:52 No. 490340
Am I missing something, where the fuck do you see glow here?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:01:11 No. 490342
>>490335 that'd be funny but why would CHYNA want this? kazakh already signed the BRI
Sage !61KGLATVW. 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:03:35 No. 490347
>>490337 You are a hopeless case. 9/11 glows like Fukushima and there is literally heaps of evidence. Would it interest you to know that Nicolas Maduro has what is supposed to be the biggest collection of 9/11 documents on earth, Fidel Castro wrote a 4000 word essay on the subject. But I suppose these people are brain rotten. JFK was killed by dirty commies too eh.
And all the opium just fucking upped smoked itself from a spoon in a back ally, crazy how opium b like that
I take it you haven’t been paying attention to Iraq recently?
The Middle East was heavily damaged, Turkey is moving into Syria, and the far right is on the rise due to a migrant crisis so the glows banking arm is left alone.
>Venezuela They have sanctioned the shit out of them and ruined the economy
>Bolivia They still couped the government out of office for a year.
Sage !61KGLATVW. 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:05:02 No. 490349
>>490340 I mean, it looks like shit, remains to be seen whether it smells and tastes like shit, but yes, that is what we are doing
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:05:58 No. 490351
>Sage is a 9/11 truther
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:06:27 No. 490352
>>490347 >there is literally heaps of evidenc All debunked.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:06:42 No. 490355
>>490344 This
This happening at the most strategically important country at the moment is just a coincidence
Coincidences happen schizo
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:07:32 No. 490358
>>490340 My read is burger glowies were just starting to push for a colour revolution since Washington recently opened another front in its war to keep USA as top dog of the world in central Asia , but it went off far sooner than they expected and over the wrong thing
Last thing Washington wants is to remind it's population of is the price of gas and necessities right now
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:09:37 No. 490362
>>490344 They're as friendly to US and EU as they are to Russia and China, they love any foreign investor as long as they can invest.
>>490349 We barely know how it looks like since the internet is down, show me where did you see it looking like shit.
Sage !61KGLATVW. 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:11:39 No. 490364
>>490351 Imagine not being a 9/11 truther kek. Yes my man it was just the bad Arabs being bad as usual.
Osama Bin Laden had literally zero connection to the CIA. Not through the Afghan Mujihadeen, the drug trade, his extremely wealthy Saudi family. That is all just fiction.
Not being a 9/11 truther is peak opinion haver mind worms. You simply haven’t looked.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:11:59 No. 490366
>>490361 >that aral sea man
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:13:28 No. 490372
>>490361 USSR 2.0 would fix it
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:14:44 No. 490377
>>490358 >My read is burger glowies were just starting to push for a colour revolution since Washington recently opened another front in its war to keep USA as top dog of the world in central Asia Is your read based on evidence or are you blindly speculating like would on a plot of a tv show based on the events of a previous season?
Who's the glowies candidate for regime change? What did they do to prop him up?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:15:01 No. 490379
>>490374 >sometimes helps socialist nations hello where are the proofs
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:17:07 No. 490381
>>490374 >helps the few socialist nations still around helping UNITA is actually existing internationalism
at last I truly see
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:18:33 No. 490383
>>490337 Are you a native russian speaker? Because “выпей лекарство” is a very Russian thing to say.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:19:26 No. 490385
>>490358 >Government raises gas prices by 100% <CIA did this https://tass.ru/ekonomika/13352231 >>490374 Kazakh government supported war on terror you idiot. They sell out their country to foreign bougies (including burgers). There is nothing based about this
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:20:06 No. 490387
>>490377 The pushing for colour revolution bit is speculation that at least a faction of burger glowdom was trying to open a second front against China in central Asia recently is fact
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:22:25 No. 490389
is there any evidence that this is going to lead anywhere, or just an overblown riot
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:23:21 No. 490390
pigs getting slaughtered
https://t.me/rybar/23357 Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:24:18 No. 490392
>>490389 We can only wait and observe
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:24:42 No. 490396
Literally every single color revolution is started over pointless lib shit like rigged election or whatever the fuck, this is not it.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:28:12 No. 490398
>>490390 >IP grabber, key logger, crypto miner link Not clicking that shit.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:28:42 No. 490400
Protester says
>we want to live like in Sweden and Norway https://t.me/ru2ch_news/28983 Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:29:44 No. 490401
>>490400 Well he knows what good life is.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:30:42 No. 490403
>>490400 nice virus faggot
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:31:32 No. 490405
>>490398 >>490403 Its telegram links
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:32:35 No. 490407
>>490405 >telegram nice virus faggot
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:32:57 No. 490409
>>490400 >>490390 better post screenshots and download the vids
retards here don't know what Telegram is
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:34:46 No. 490415
>>490409 I am on mobile, can't download them.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:35:06 No. 490417
>>490385 >>490385 Eh lad so did Syria didn't stop the United States from trying to topple Assad
Burger glowies colour revolution prep if it existed may have helped the success so far on this by accident, but the last thing burger glowied want is people focused on real shit like the price if gas and living standards
Sage !61KGLATVW. 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:39:07 No. 490421
>>490368 >>490370 Do research, I know it’s very time consuming to watch Agent Kochinski streams, but it isn’t making you smarter
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:40:44 No. 490423
>>490409 I know what Telegram is, I simply avoid using it because of OPSEC.
>>490415 >I am on mobile But of course.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:40:55 No. 490425
>>490421 >Do research I'd rather keep myself clear from schizo blog. Have enough schizophrenia from leftypol alone.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:42:04 No. 490429
>>490423 A law enforcement agent got sniped and died
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:42:26 No. 490431
>>490421 I did, a third of the conspiracy shit has no arguments at all, the other third is based on misinfo and the last third can be easily explained by molten aluminium from the plane.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:43:48 No. 490434
They took military equipment and personnel.
Why can’t Burgers do this?
https://mobile.twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1478684871103070208 Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:45:10 No. 490436
>>490434 To be fair burger police are so bloodthirsty that if you as much as touch a gun you'd probably run over by tanks
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:45:50 No. 490438
>>490434 Because the treats still flow.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:47:01 No. 490440
>>490427 URGENT, B👀ST:
HERE'S WHAT'S HAPPENING IN KAZAKHSTAN AND HOW CAN YOU HELP IT (🧵 1/?)
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:49:08 No. 490442
>>490436 You’re right. Standing in front of a tank is news but getting shot by police is not. Hence why in Burgerstan they use the later when shit hits the fan.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:50:07 No. 490446
>>490436 This is why I really wanted Trump to send the tanks in in 2020. We would’ve had our own Tank Man and it would’ve probably changed things.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:50:28 No. 490448
>>490444 What software is this?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:51:29 No. 490452
>>490400 BASED SOCIAL DEMOCRAT REVOLUTION????
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:52:35 No. 490454
>>490450 Thanks pirate flag
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:55:03 No. 490456
STATE OF EMERGENCY DECLARED
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 16:56:36 No. 490458
It's over… It's fucking over. Afghanistan 2.0
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 17:01:45 No. 490462
>>490458 Depends if Russian armed forces make the move.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 17:02:22 No. 490465
>>490460 >>490460 Nazaraev was a yeltsinite and his family is apparently deeply ingrained in the ogliarchy.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 17:03:05 No. 490467
>>490464 The current government is quite warm towards the west from what I have read.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 17:08:16 No. 490472
>>490464 >>490467 every central asian state is warm to the west to deter annexation by Russia but also totally depend on Russia/China to survive because they have few-to-no practical resources or development
there is a really low chance that they would ever flip to the west/NATO because they simply do not invest in the well-being of these countries while russia and china does. like, the best example is Chile, where America basically demanded them to hand over all their wealth and thank the US for robbing them - of course the west isn't going to make unconditional investments in these countries with no desire for immediate kickbacks, its against their ideology.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 17:11:11 No. 490474
>>490469 China is cucked, they didn't do shit since vietnam defeated them in the 70s
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 17:15:57 No. 490481
>>490479 aren't they all the same general turkic culture anyways? they could probably just be one SSR.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 17:16:02 No. 490483
This protest is eerily close to the anniversary of the US Capitol Riots. I think this functions as a diversion as well as a geostrategic move against Russia and China.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 17:21:35 No. 490485
Remember guys. The Soviet Union is popular here. If this were a populist revolution you would see Soviet flags everywhere
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 17:25:03 No. 490490
>>490486 Why is Burger Antifa so incompetent? Why can’t they do cool shit like this?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 17:25:45 No. 490495
>>490490 Kazakh police is incompetent. Burger one isn't.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 17:27:34 No. 490499
>>490485 Its popular but I doubt the masses are that class conscious (example: vid of protester refering to scandinavian socdem system as ideal)
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 17:27:50 No. 490501
>>490460 Don't let those fucks seize control. No old faces should remain in politics, all must be replaced with new faces, otherwise it's merely a damage control from the ruling clique.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 17:30:12 No. 490503
>>490474 China is different today. They keep Russia alive with their economy.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 17:30:36 No. 490505
>>490497 “What a peaceful organization!”
- Noah Smith
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 17:31:21 No. 490508
>>490479 Is that Tannu Tuva with Khan characteristics?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 17:32:16 No. 490510
>>490485 This is true. The problem is their oligarchy use Soviet symbolism.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 17:35:24 No. 490518
Reminder that Kazakhstan is 1st place in the world in uranium production (40.8% of world production), 12th place in oil, 8th in coal, 2nd in asbestos, 3rd in chromium, 10th in gold, 4th in titanium
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 17:36:42 No. 490519
>>490518 And the No. 1 exporter of potassium.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 17:38:12 No. 490521
>>490519 I didn't knew they grow bananas
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 17:41:19 No. 490523
>>490518 So what is their current government allegiance towards America, China and Russia?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 17:55:02 No. 490528
I don't think people realise how bad it is in most or central Asia. The communist parties there are harassed and banned to a degree only seen in the temporarily occupied Baltic SSRs and Ukraine. Near feudal conditions prevail in much of the region, it really went into the dark ages after 1991.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 18:08:21 No. 490533
So is it glowuyghurs or legit grassroots?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 18:10:37 No. 490535
>>490521 The entire country is going bananas.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 18:11:16 No. 490537
>>490533 considering the circumstances it looks grassy to me.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 18:11:25 No. 490539
What fucking amazes me is the lack of resistance from the Kazakh state.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 18:12:06 No. 490541
>>490539 it's socdem at best
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 18:13:59 No. 490543
Fuck turkicoids
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 18:17:27 No. 490546
>>490539 What socialism? Is Russia also socialist in your opinion?
>>490541 Not even that.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 18:17:54 No. 490548
Hopefully Russia can use this opportunity to reclaim its illegally stolen territory.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 18:17:56 No. 490550
>>490394 Ah. So it’s a similar construction in both languages.
Thank you based Baltic Anon.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 18:28:35 No. 490552
>>490546 Neither Kazakhstan nor Russia are socialist of course, but a more Nato-inclined Kazakhstan is a huge blow to multipolarity and a boon to the Us Empire, thus is a L for socialism.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 18:31:02 No. 490555
>>490552 There's zero indication so far of Kazakhstan becoming "Nato-inclined" over this, what are you talking about
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 18:33:39 No. 490557
>>490521 It's a banana republic
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 18:35:19 No. 490559
>>490555 According to anons in the thread,protestors are spouting liberal bullshit like "we want to be like Denmark and Sweden", and on Twitter some "protestors demands" list are circulating which are pure Maidan-tier cringe.
Ofc one could argue that similar things took place even when in France Yellow Vests started protesting, so one should not take for granted that the protestors glow.
Its a concrete possibility though.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 18:41:04 No. 490562
Seems to me a nationalist movement. Ousting a NATO puppet is not bad at all.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 18:41:57 No. 490564
I'm waiting for at least the Syomin takes to drop before speculating.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 18:47:41 No. 490566
>>490559 If they're leaving US and NATO embassies alone, they're probably glowing.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 18:49:33 No. 490567
>>490555 Why does it matter if they're NATO or not?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 18:50:17 No. 490568
>>490567 Just look at the map.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 18:50:38 No. 490569
>>490566 Yeah this is also a tell tbh.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 18:51:20 No. 490571
>>490559 It's a spontaneous unorganized uprising in a country where the communists were thoroughly purged, of course their demands are shit, they have little idea what to do with this.
Unlike Maidan and the likes they're not supporting specific pro-nato politicians or anything of the sort so far.
>>490566 Why would they attack US embassies if they don't see it as a source of their problems?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 18:55:07 No. 490572
>>490571 Anon I understand your reasoning but i see it as too naive.
After all these years I learned that if a protest has no explicitly socialist/anti imperialist goals chance is that it's a glow up.
That said I would LOVE to be proven wrong.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 18:55:42 No. 490573
>>490571 > Why would they attack US embassies if they don't see it as a source of their problems? Their intelligence agency isn’t the source of their problems. Yet they attacked it.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 18:58:37 No. 490574
>>490559 The protest demands are glowie shit invented to muddy the waters: the fact they care so much about Ukraine is obviously that they weren't written by Kazakhs.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:00:25 No. 490578
>>490574 >what is glowies attempting to take over mass unrest Motherfucker there is almost always popular unrest for some reason or another before glowies swoop in
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:01:56 No. 490579
>>490578 A dude in Kiev DM'ing Nexta to put out some bullshit does not a revolution change.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:05:42 No. 490582
>>490576 Ok confirmed glow
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:08:19 No. 490584
we're being very quick here to squawk about GLOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWW, but can we get some actual facts in, as oppsoed to screenshots of a fucking wikipedia article and then pointing fingers,
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:11:30 No. 490585
>>490584 Ignore the few vocal retards, most people here are nuanced and rational and you are not showing them respect
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:12:16 No. 490586
>>490584 People calling it glow are guessing. Only source itt that has actual Kazakh communists writing about it rejects the theory it's a glow op
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:23:13 No. 490588
>>490587 This says that the people on the streets are proles (mostly), which is good, but it also says that there is no even remotely communist leadership on the horizon.
So it's less pessimist than saying the protests are outright glowed but its not that positive.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:25:50 No. 490589
>>490588 KKE just released a statement:
https://www.902.gr/eidisi/politiki/282087/hairetizei-tis-megales-ergatikes-kinitopoiiseis-sto-kazakstan Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:31:14 No. 490591
>>490589 <KKE supporting I usually trust them as one of the best communist parties in Europe, so maybe I was too hasty in my previous judgement.
We shall wait and see, but big doubts still remain.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:31:45 No. 490592
The comments here seem to be pretty divided. Some are calling them thugs and others are calling them heroes.
https://youtu.be/JBpwFl6tVZo Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:32:55 No. 490593
>protests over gas
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:33:14 No. 490594
OH GOD OH FUCK JUST IN - #Kazakhstan's President Tokayev has asked the CSTO security bloc - involving six former Soviet countries including Russia and Belarus - for military assistance to quell the "foreign aggression" to the nation.
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1478805414003331075 Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:35:57 No. 490596
>>490591 It's not a bad impulse to see chaos in the world and start out with… if not exactly seeing the CIA in the shadows (natural impulse)… investigating what the U.S. angle is on the situation. In Belarus that was clear. But in each particular case that has to then be tested with the reality.
I think we've seen this via-a-vis Ethiopia as well. Some anti-imperialists have been claiming the U.S. is backing Tigray. But the favorable coverage of the Tigrayans in U.S. state media didn't come until after the Ethiopian army was routed. And the Ethiopian government is not good – it's very neoliberal. In that case, it seems like the U.S. tilted a bit to Tigray when it started looking like they might come out the winners. But you can quickly get into this unsophisticated crank outlook about it where the CIA plotted the Tigrayan uprising from the beginning.
>>490593 Not sure about that one
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:36:55 No. 490598
>>490595 Fucking ignore wikipedia it is retarded
Grillpilled Schizo 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:39:23 No. 490601
>>490594 Case closed folks! The anti-imperialist saviour Putin shall stop this colour revolution by the CIA! Nothing to see here, move along! What? Compadore bourgoise? Never heard of it. What? Gazprom? Nah, they are based wholesome 100 totally state owned firm guys!
What I trully fucking hate is that now every single retarded western RT watcher fuckhead will be screeching based based based over Kazachis getting murdered, just because, pretty obviously, the West will use this free propaganda boon to show the simple truth of how shitty Russia is Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:40:12 No. 490602
>>490593 >Energy and food prices dont affect working class Idiot
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:40:40 No. 490604
You know, maybe we are in for our first genuine clusterfuck in a good while.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:41:11 No. 490605
>Armenia begins consultations with the heads of the CSTO countries on Kazakhstan's request for the assistance - Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:42:44 No. 490606
>>490593 >protests over gas <petty bourgeois nonsense. whatever yeah, living without heating and freezing to death is what true proletarians do
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:42:51 No. 490607
https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1478801544665522186 Almaty airport with that Half-Life 2 vibe rn.
>>490604 Starting to believe that there's a possibility things could develop that way.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:43:04 No. 490608
>>490598 It's decent to see the glowuyghur consensus in things
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:43:26 No. 490609
>>490600 This Ablyazov guy isn't even in the country, he fled it a while ago
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:44:16 No. 490610
>>490603 For those that don't speak Russian, he is saying that the protesters aren't Moscow Hipsters but the working class, and that this is a real revolution for an improvement of their material conditions.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:44:19 No. 490611
>>490595 Look how huge his head is.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:46:54 No. 490615
>>490613 Don't we all anon?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:46:57 No. 490616
>>490607 I will admit its a bit early to tell, but the speed of escalation does suggest it may not end up a pure nothingburger or cuckdan.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:47:12 No. 490617
>>490614 Borat Lives Matter in action.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:47:45 No. 490618
>>490613 so what
when you live in Kazakhstan fucking Denmark must look like a paradise
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:47:55 No. 490619
>>490613 I mean, the only way for a central asian republic to get the kind of standard of living like Sweden for regular people at this point is dictatorship of the proletariat.
Grillpilled Schizo 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:48:14 No. 490620
>>490616 Tbh I am kind of getting a Tahrir square wibe. It seem pretty unorganized and spontanious, which isn't a good thing.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:48:36 No. 490621
>>490619 I only hope they come to that conclusion. doubt it though.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:50:52 No. 490623
>>490620 Vhat do you mean bro???
: ) Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:51:18 No. 490624
>>490612 > We know "unorganized"/"leaderless" pretests don't exist. Is this guy retarded?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:51:31 No. 490625
>>490602 they don't, not in any outsized way at least
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:51:45 No. 490626
>>490622 a retard take from a tank. shocking.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:52:38 No. 490627
>>490620 Could be… That leans more towards nothingburger+.
The thing is a bit different now though is that in the last few years various theoretically more or less serious marxists groups have grown in Russia, both online and off (Syomin, Zhukov, Yulin, Rudoy, Kagarlitsky, Buzgalin, etc. to name some online examples)
This definitely has weighed on all FSU countries.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:53:24 No. 490628
>>490622 Tbh we should wait, like
>>490620 said this is far more Tahrir Square than Maidan. Most young people with internet access's first impulse during spontaneous protests is "freedom and democracy" - give it some time because between this and Ethiopia the glowies are scrambling to figure out a plan
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:55:08 No. 490629
>>490625 t. privileged westernoid
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:56:39 No. 490630
>>490622 How do you read what i posoted and get that??
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:56:48 No. 490631
>>490629 westerners love complaining about gas and food prices more than anyone lol
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 19:57:23 No. 490633
>>490625 yeah bro, I'm so busy hitting a piece of metal with a big hammer every day I have no time to care about frivolous bourgeois things like "food prices"
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:01:32 No. 490638
>>490635 >Russian troops could enter Kazakhstan The USSR 2 guy on Twitter warned us all…
Grillpilled Schizo 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:02:01 No. 490639
>>490627 To be honest, if I had even a tinyest shred of optimism and suspension of disbelief in me, I would hope that the best case scenario for this would be a spontanious (as much as I dislike spontanious revolutions in theory) revolution across all of the CSTO. Putin? Gone. Lukashenka? Gone. All the shitty corrupt and murderous "autonomous" region governments like in Chechnya? Gone. All overthrown by a mass of pissed of people WHO ARE MAD AS HELL AND WON'T TAKE IT ANYMORE. Would it benefit the US? Sure, but US is already a dying beast and this won't suddenly jolt it back to life somehow. However it sure would be one grand spectacle that might change peoples minds globally and show them that THEY HAVE THE FUCKING POWER TO DO SHIT.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:06:08 No. 490644
>>490643 C’mon, how about having a new Lenin instead of fantasizing that magic will happen and that he’ll wake up.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:06:38 No. 490646
>>490644 (me)
Sometimes I feel like people here are stuck in the past.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:07:15 No. 490648
>>490644 Why not both?
Take the cosmism pill anon
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:08:47 No. 490652
>>490647 I do not care for the plight of the people in ex-communist countries.
t. born in the USSR
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:08:51 No. 490653
>>490647 In our favour most here called them retarded
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:11:03 No. 490655
>>490645 larouchite CIAuyghurs have arrived in the grandest show of political manoeuvring since the molotove ribbentrop pact to deliver hands directly the workers of the CSTO to instigate the new red terror in the east
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:12:58 No. 490656
>>490601 Based
Critical support for global capitalist hegemony in their struggle against crybabies wanting sovereignty
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:13:42 No. 490657
It is happening. The only way the American imperialists could win is by aiding the communists to power in Eurasia.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:14:31 No. 490658
IT'S A CIA OP, I READ IT IN RT
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:14:49 No. 490659
>>490601 and now watch as twitter tankies actually say this stuff unironically
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:15:01 No. 490660
>>490647 I love making things up in my head and then proceed to get mad at them.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:15:44 No. 490661
>>490659 go to their houses in the night and beat then to death with hammers
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:15:54 No. 490662
>>490654 Which Central Asian country had a politician caught on tape promising to sell out the country after organizing a" Maidan".
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:15:55 No. 490663
Turanic Juche now is the fucking moment
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:16:47 No. 490664
>>490661 i'd rather do that to jordan peterson stans tbh
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:17:29 No. 490666
>>490665 >very likely explain
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:17:31 No. 490667
>>490654 You would have to be a complete fool to be a communist and go "ewe icky probably a ciaop, bls based eurasian putin bring back law and order protestors are cia"
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:17:33 No. 490668
>>675679
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:18:15 No. 490669
>>490665 If Russia is moving troops in, that idea is already dead, bucko. US can, however, use this as a distraction to "liberate" Crimea.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:19:08 No. 490670
>>490665 listen up DNC psychos I will strangle Russian ogliarch babys with my bare hands to erase their geopolitical blood crimes as long as you send me weapons and muntions
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:19:45 No. 490671
I don't see this turning out good
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:19:53 No. 490672
>>490652 Хоть я простой иностранец, мне необходимо вас спросить, вы что? Верите, что власти дают народу навязывать им свою волю? Или что, Союзу ли предали другие республики, а не Горбачев?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:20:15 No. 490673
>Posts flowing like one per minute >Climate of tension all over, no one knows what will happen next >Memes could soon follow suit
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:21:28 No. 490676
Tbh if Russia sends in troops, this could cause a huge backlash. For Ukraine Moscow had to do a fucktonne of consent manufacture, if they send in people like is being claimed, that could be a leverage.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:22:31 No. 490677
>>490675 I don't trust anyone on this topic, but there are some weird things going on like the unmarked vehicles giving out weapons
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:22:43 No. 490679
>>490675 porky vs porky glowup
Many such cases!
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:23:04 No. 490681
>>490677 who cares. don't ask questions. just take guns you cuck
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:25:04 No. 490684
>>490675 Pepe Escobar is a vulgar and very pro-Putin campist with idiotic views on economics whose geopolitical analysis is usually okay so could be true or maybe not
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:25:24 No. 490686
>>489895 holy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:25:56 No. 490688
>>490683 Yes, and I'm tired to pretend i do not.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:26:55 No. 490691
>>490677 Hour ago
>rioters storming and looting arms storage Now
>some dudes in a car giving arms away Surely that's outside influence and not the same people.
So you would consider it legit if the dude didn't
think to remove the number plate and got himself in deep shit?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:27:57 No. 490693
Russia's intervention in this is a good example of imperialism as Lenin defines it. Russia didn't do shit when asked to intervene for Armenia during the 2020 war because it's interests align with oil rich Azerbaijan. But when Russian interests are threatened in Kazakhstan their quick to go in.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:28:23 No. 490694
>>490691 you do realize that it's possible to steal cars?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:28:39 No. 490695
>>490691 the reason that is weird is because they had no flag or any apparent affiliation with any cause or belief. Making it seem like they are just a neutral party giving out weapons that is a foreign entity.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:28:53 No. 490696
>>490677 >I don't trust anyone on this topic I trust Pepe. He's a proper anti-imp journalist and covers geopolitics since ages.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:30:36 No. 490699
>>489758 >Omsk is right on the border with Kazakhstan <Russian troops could enter from there Black League confirmed real
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:31:48 No. 490700
>>490695 Yeah they should've gotten a contract with the local flag producing factory for some dope new designs. Are you 12? Lel
Grillpilled Schizo 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:34:05 No. 490701
>>490694 >He forgot the name Nice impostor
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:35:07 No. 490704
Jannies, cyclical NOW.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:35:41 No. 490705
>>490603 This fucking guy, how can you be a marxist for 60 years and then say this kinda shit.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:35:42 No. 490706
>>490700 Ah yes, random people in stripped out vehicles with no apparent affiliation to any interest group coming in your neighborhood giving out weapons is not weird at all and happens all the time.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:36:57 No. 490707
>>490706 Obviously it's not something that happens every day but you're saying it would be less weird if they had a flag
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:37:17 No. 490708
>>490702 spec ops belonging to whom?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:37:35 No. 490709
>>490708 Kazakh army most likely.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:38:26 No. 490710
>>490702 >404'd already kek
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:39:03 No. 490711
>>490706 If you're handing out weapons to protestors why would you have a license plate on that can be tracked back to you and your family? These guys aren't as sheltered
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:39:49 No. 490713
>>490711 Why the fuck would you hand out weapons in the open, without organization?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:40:09 No. 490714
>>490711 Not license plates, of course, but even an insignia would help clear the air about who’s doing what
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:40:55 No. 490715
>>490712 because there's no such thing as a coincedence
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:42:52 No. 490716
>>490703 Не правда ли? Разъясните, пожалуйста, словно я ребеночек, в чем ошибка?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:43:46 No. 490718
>>490711 You are completely missing the point, which is that they have no organization and are just handing out weapons for no purpose or for any goal. They have no affiliation to any group or ideology, meaning their own reasons are unknown and how they got their weapons ambiguous. How is that not weird or suspicious? Random men in purposefully stripped cars giving out guns to anyone without (allegedly) any apparent personal goals?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:46:34 No. 490720
>>490718 are you going to start screeching about MUH GLOWIES as well?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:47:30 No. 490721
>>490720 ??????????????????? I literally just asked a question you fucking retard
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:48:34 No. 490722
>>490721 Ignore him. Typical idealist naivety.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:50:39 No. 490724
>>490718 the car was a ploy by glowies to make us think that they are behind the protests
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:53:04 No. 490726
>>490724 The Glow really works in mysterious ways.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:53:33 No. 490727
>>490712 In all likelihood those parties are opportunistically trying to head this movement but at this point it's still a chaotic lower class revolt. What's cool is that it shows the true face of the Glowzone and cie more preoccupied in aligning themselves with Russia under the guise of vulgar anti imperialism while communist parties literally support those revolts and at the same time the US called for appeasement.
bloodgasm 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:53:41 No. 490728
>>490724 kek, the guns were just humanitarian aid shaped like guns
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:56:12 No. 490730
dubs and Xi sends in the PLA to restore proletarian power
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:56:51 No. 490731
>>490727 Those parties are trying to head the movement by posting on the internet when the internet is down
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:58:28 No. 490732
>>490729 I wouldn't say its dead. The democratic socialists of Kazakhstan are one of the "leaders" of the protests.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 20:59:15 No. 490733
>>490729 don't worry, if the glowies come from both sides they'll cancel each other out
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:00:39 No. 490736
>>490725 >Men make history but not of their own accord What does hitler even have to do with this
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:01:00 No. 490737
>>490718 Same thing happened in Albania '97, people distribute guns they stole to prevent themselves from getting in trouble for taking them in the first place. If the protests die down, it'll be more difficult to track down the thieves and persecute them. The situation's much less complicated than you're making it out to be.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:01:24 No. 490738
>>490732 >democratic socialists of Kazakhstan That's a good joke
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:02:07 No. 490741
>>490736 Someone's coping by blaming Gorbachev.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:03:04 No. 490743
>>490730 When the fuck has China given a single iota of a shit about exporting socialism?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:03:10 No. 490744
>>490739 Wait what
What happens now
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:03:56 No. 490745
>>490743 Never in the last 40 years.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:04:42 No. 490747
>>490729 >Seems like it's an organic protest born out of legitimate grievances from the Kazakh people lol It's like a textbook coup d' etat from the beginning, color revolution glowies didn't even fuck around with lenghty "peaceful protests" this time, there was absolutely nothing happening in Kazakhstan just 1 week ago. Now it's 3 days into riots and they're already tearing down statues, looting and storming government buildings. It seems /leftypol/ consists mostly either of zoomers who haven't followed world news for longer than 10 years or glowies these days
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:05:15 No. 490748
>>490742 nothing is happening, move along
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:05:46 No. 490749
>>490747 t. guy who also didn't follow Kazakh politics until 3 days ago
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:06:48 No. 490751
>>490749 Were there pissful prodesds before the breaking into government buildings started?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:06:52 No. 490752
>>490731 It just shows how they're disconnected from the ground and trying to get legitimacy trough international support. If those protests keep going we'll see groups organically emerging from this mess
>>490747 There are revolts every year in Kazakhstan you imbecile, people are mad since capitalists took power and at their crook leader who stayed in power 30 years with the help of his porky friends
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:07:37 No. 490754
>>490747 We'll see anon. Speculation is useless at this point, cause guns have started speaking.
I agree that there's a significative probability of glow involvement but the KKE endorsement got me a bit perplexed overall.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:09:22 No. 490756
>>490741 Gorbachov was just the final manifestation of problems that existed in planned commodity production that occurred since the Kosygin Reforms and other Khrushchev Policy. Khrushchev in turn came to power and was enable to enact his autism through stalinist purges and greater consolidation of power in the bureaucracy and other organs of the state. There were structural factors at play here, but it’s not like the people just wanted the unions dissolved and free-market capitalism to reappear.
Fuck, wouldn’t it be in your self interest for communist, proletarian governments to establish socialist states within the republics? I don’t understand how you can be so dismissive.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:09:58 No. 490757
>>490753 trotskyists are often very based you know
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:11:39 No. 490761
>>490754 Wait, what the fuck does Greeze have to do with Kazakhstan?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:12:09 No. 490763
>>490706 There are vids of protestors raiding arsenals, the weapons could come from there
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:12:18 No. 490764
>>490757 Cringe
>>490761 KKE is a very active party internationally, probably the most active in Europe.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:12:40 No. 490765
>>675853
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:12:40 No. 490766
>>675853
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:13:29 No. 490769
>>675853 >immediate seethe from anprimfag and piratefag
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:14:12 No. 490770
>>490757 Today's trot is tomorrow's neocon
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:14:23 No. 490772
>>490758 >>490759 >>490760 >>490764 well show me the stalinist party doing strikes and helping workers in Kazakhstan I'll wait, or maybe they're too busy posting memes on fbi.gov
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:14:51 No. 490774
>>490772 kys, or wait for an icepick to go through your skull
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:15:29 No. 490775
>>490772 >STALINSTALINSTALINSTALINSTALINSTALINSTALINSTALIN Give it up, Trot. It's been 70 years.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:16:04 No. 490776
>At the Kazakh security council Ministers DID NOT ASSURE loyalty of police and army units. They can only rely on special forces.
https://twitter.com/bordoni_russia/status/1478823636895215620 If this is true than this shit could get VERY MUCH out of hand.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:17:34 No. 490778
>>490776 Kazakh civil war soon
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:18:08 No. 490779
>>490775 >>490777 >>490774 wow the cope is real, keep getting angry and sectarian on internet I'm sure the revolution will come lol, meanwhile stals are irrelevant in Kazakhstan and the only active MLs are trots
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:18:22 No. 490780
>>490776 Hopefully the army sides with the proles. Police can get fucked tho.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:18:43 No. 490782
>>490776 Well, just like WW1, the world (also in the middle of obscene wealth inequality, and a Naval Arms Race) will just go from a flashpoint to flashpoint, until some trivial bullshit will set the whole thing off.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:18:57 No. 490783
>>490776 There is videos of protesters taking soldiers/cops hostage. Not surprised
Today (tomorrow for burgers/western euros) will show if this escalates or dies down
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:19:37 No. 490784
>>490779 >keep getting angry and sectarian on internet You're the one who started getting all mad and crying STALINIST! at the voices in your head.
bloodgasm 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:19:41 No. 490785
>>490772 Will trots ever stop seething?
>>490783 source?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:21:41 No. 490787
>>490781 Stalin did plenty wrong, like playing nice with kulaks, letting them sabotage the economy and leading to famine, and not purging the bureaucracy hard enough, so that when he, and Zhdanov, started to argue for introduction of direct democracy, they swiftly died under suspicious circumstances.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:21:46 No. 490788
>>490767 >>490783 If things are alerady at the level of taking security members hostage and the control of the repressive forces are maimed.
One can expect this to not die down
One of the turning points in the last big protest in Bolivia and Peru (putting aside the glow or not glow origins question) is that once reached that point the ride just accelerates.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:22:00 No. 490789
>>675890 >daring to make fun of their precious avatarfags.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:22:03 No. 490790
>>489854 Whatever the situation is in Kazakhstan The reason for glowies to do glowie revolutions is that glowieshits would otherwise lose their grasp from this world if they didn't. That enemy has to struggle to keep their shit together is only a good sign regarding the state of the empire. If it is indeed glow revolution and it fails, even better.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:22:32 No. 490792
>>675890
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:22:47 No. 490793
>>490787 Raskulachivanie was “playing nice?”
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:24:02 No. 490795
>>675897 >They wouldn’t because actual socialists understand that strikes this day and age without the expressed purpose of paralyzing the state to establish socialism are counterrevolutionary
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:24:24 No. 490796
>>490794 Comfirmed EU colour revolution?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:24:48 No. 490798
>>490795 Idpoler becoming socialist in real time.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:25:03 No. 490799
These protests are great for our cause, honestly. Kazakhstan’s government is authoritarian liberal and Putinist in nature so seeing them replaced with something else is preferable, even if the country becomes western-oriented.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:25:04 No. 490800
>>490794 Kek
>>490788 (me)
I was pointing to
>>490776 instead of the cryptoshit
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:26:09 No. 490801
>>490793 It came
after the kulaks already fucked everything they could, so yes. "Surely the petite-booj will do right by the people" is a bullshit positions.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:26:11 No. 490802
>>675903 >workers are sheep
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:27:10 No. 490804
>>489812 holy shit, I love this movie even more now.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:27:40 No. 490805
>>490799 Their trade partners are overwhelmingly China and Russia and with the BRI there is no way they become western oriented unless they want to self destruct
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:27:58 No. 490807
>>490802 Falsely conscious ones are, yes. It is by design.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:28:40 No. 490809
>>490803 How is it bad? Nazarbayev is an oligarchic Putinist dictator that actively suppresses the workers and jails communist dissidents. I don’t care if the EU or whichever western groups are backing the protesters because getting rid of the current Kazakh government is absolutely vital for the advancement of socialism.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:29:19 No. 490810
>>675926
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:29:47 No. 490811
>>490805 Every country, even China, is inherently western-oriented to a certain extent. You guys seem to not understand the scope of American hegemony. It’s here to stay until it isn’t and that’s a very long way out.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:29:51 No. 490812
>>490805 <Unless they want to self destruct Just look at Ukraine
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:29:58 No. 490813
>>490809 Nuke USA first, then you can talk of socialism advancing.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:30:28 No. 490814
>noooo you must think about the big picture, keep obeying your master and wait for the richest countries to do socialism
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:30:33 No. 490815
>>490809 >absolutely vital for the advancement of socialism Yeah I'm sure socialism has really advanced under western "democracy"
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:30:45 No. 490816
>>490809 Yeah and the EU is notoriously pro-socialist.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:31:07 No. 490818
>>490809 Name one instance where a western backed revolution created space for subsequent socialist revolution or election. Just one (1). Pls
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:31:43 No. 490819
>>490801 What are you, some kind of Trot?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:32:27 No. 490821
>>675926 >Yes, yes it was, cry harder shitlib
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:33:08 No. 490824
>>490815 It has. You don’t understand what socialism is.
>>490816 The EU is fascist but occasionally they will help out socialist revolutions like the one in Kazakhstan right now.
>>490818 North Korea?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:33:40 No. 490825
>>490823 Didn't Armenia just lose a war?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:34:06 No. 490827
>>490814 You're gonna get assraped with sanctions, embargoes and invasions the moment your country attempts to do socialism like it has happened time and time before. MTW is a joke and there's a reason why Marx said only fully developed capitalist nations can make the transition to socialism.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:34:14 No. 490828
>>675950
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:34:17 No. 490829
>>490824 >socialist revolutions like the one in Kazakhstan right now. Dude i never say this but you are fucking glowing so hard right now
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:34:28 No. 490830
God bless the Kazakh workers who are fighting back against Nazarbayev’s brutal dictatorship. The people deserve fair and free elections, free speech and transparency in government. Fuck these Putin shills who think otherwise.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:35:03 No. 490832
>>490817 Yes I blame them. Just because the situation is bad does not mean blowing shit up will improve things. In fact we've seen plenty of examples to the contrary - Syria, Libya, Ukraine. All "legitimate grievances" but on the other end is only an even worse situation, by orders of magnitude.
Fuck your romantic visions of protests and liberal revolutions.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:35:04 No. 490833
>>490827 >fully developed capitalist nations Which Kazakhstan arguably is
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:35:09 No. 490834
>>490823 Wait, what, already? Are we on 5-speed? This shit is like the Ukraine build up. Except I don't see a brake, like before.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:35:29 No. 490835
>>490829 The glowies are the ones who actively support Nazarbayev and Putin while claiming to be communists
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:36:05 No. 490836
>>490825 It is a joint CISTO mission, which means russia belarus armenia tajikistan and kyrgyzstan
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:36:43 No. 490837
>>675967
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:37:01 No. 490838
>>675967
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:37:03 No. 490839
>>490824 >North Korea? How?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:37:32 No. 490840
>>675950 >looks down upon poor/working class/masses >seeks power over lessers >elitist >"lemmings" "sheep"
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:38:55 No. 490842
>>490831 >unless he is incorrigible Lol mao is literally in agreement.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:39:11 No. 490843
>>490838 Stalin was from a poorfag from a (then) persecuted minority turned choir boy turned bandit. Hardly petty booj.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:39:16 No. 490844
>>675967
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:39:31 No. 490845
>>490838 >Lenin and Stalin were petite bourgeois Lmfao. Stalin's parents were former serfs. Lenin came from a serf family.
>loved associating with creeps like Beria unproven bullshit
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:39:42 No. 490846
>>675967 >>490838 What a pair of retards lmao
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:40:15 No. 490847
>>490824 >>490820 >Vietnam >DPRK West literally killed millions in each instance to destroy them, what are you on about? The alliance of convenience against Japan isn't remotely comparable anyway, and revolution in Korea was crushed by the US which is why South Korea exists at all and needed to be invaded.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:40:23 No. 490848
>>675975 Stalin quite literally warned others in his government to keep their daughters away from Beria. Why do you think that is?
>>490845 Lenin, like Trotsky, came from a rich background. Holy fuck you’re dumb
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:40:28 No. 490849
>>490838 >Stalin pet bouj Twitter is less retarded than this thread
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:41:39 No. 490851
>>675967 >uneducated rabble
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:41:45 No. 490852
I support Kazakhs insurgent for now because they form the historical party, that will change one way or the other, but not yet.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:42:50 No. 490853
>>490822 Ну, пошел ты нахуй. Неудивительно, значит, как ты снисходит до бывших, а все же реальных социалистических государств. Что именно подают троцкисты социалистическому движению?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:44:02 No. 490854
>>490846 I suspect it's a /pol/tard trying to stir shit.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:44:04 No. 490855
>>490848 >Being an impoverished member of the intelligentsia makes you rich Even then, what about Stalin?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:44:38 No. 490858
>>490848 >Stalin quite literally warned others in his government to keep their daughters away from Beria. Why do you think that is? The only source for this comes from a known anticommunist propagandist who has made up tons of shit, lol.
>Lenin, like Trotsky, came from a rich background. Holy fuck you’re dumb Lenin's family from his father's side was a literal serf family. That his father was able to become richer doesn't change this. Learn your history, retard.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:45:12 No. 490859
>>490846 Agreed, one retarded post with an equally retarded response. Lenin and Stalin would slap the lips off the first guy though.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:45:25 No. 490860
>>675981
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:45:41 No. 490861
>needed to be productive today >the government of a steppe country decided to blow up >day wasted
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:46:51 No. 490862
>>675950 >naturally predisposed to being lemming
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:47:05 No. 490863
>>675997 Bukharin and Trotsky were innocent, actually.
>>490855 Stalin was from a rich family too.
>>490853 Троцкий был социалистичнее Ленина или Сталина, тупица
>>490858 >The only source for this comes from a known anticommunist propagandist who has made up tons of shit, lol. This is literally false.
>>490858 >Lenin's family from his father's side was a literal serf family. That his father was able to become richer doesn't change this. Learn your history, retard. His mother was from a rich merchant family.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:47:09 No. 490864
Trusting any reporters employed or tied to RT on this event related to Russia is the same as trusting radio free Asia when they have a conflict involving the usa
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:47:46 No. 490865
>>490853 Ideas. And bloodlust. I leave praising of failure and defeat to public relations types.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:48:48 No. 490868
>>490863 Ты че, ебанут? Каковыми богачами были Джугашвили?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:49:31 No. 490870
>>490864 Who am I supposed to trust then? The Washington Post?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:50:08 No. 490872
>>490868 Дзугаш и Ленин происходили из богатых семей. Тот факт, что вы проводите все свое время за чтением одного источника, не делает его правдой.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:50:52 No. 490873
>>490871 Trotsky was justified in BTFOing Makhno.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:51:58 No. 490875
>>490870 Trust no one and fly to the country to report it to us yourself.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:52:13 No. 490876
Recap:>CSTO called in, yet to see in what capacity >Nazarbayev BTFO >Violence seems heightened but mostly localized in Almaty <Police and Army loyalty in question
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:53:27 No. 490878
>>490876 Kazakh police and army are fascist pigs of Putinist loyalties. Glory to the protesters! Glory to the revolution!
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:53:46 No. 490879
>>490874 How could you fuck the quoting? Did you type it?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:54:15 No. 490881
>>490863 >This is literally false. Stalin phoning about his daughter comes from Montefiore, who popularized all this. You just saw it on Wikipedia and thought if Wikipedia says it, it must be true. That hack doesn't even source half of the shit he says in his book.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:55:32 No. 490883
>>490878 >fascist pigs of Putinist loyalties. Glory to the protesters! Glory to the revolution! This reeks of like your second day in leftism.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:56:22 No. 490885
>>490870 You can trust anyone reporting on actions being taken. (usually)
The "why" you can deduce yourself, unless you're bad at historical materialism and geopolitics.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:56:35 No. 490886
Uh…
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:56:42 No. 490887
>>490883 this is just old school slogan aesthetics, the trotskyists still talk like that tho
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:56:56 No. 490888
>>490232 This is way too coordinated to be an act of spontaneous uprising, why should regular ass protestors take over an airport? This is most likely a CIA op.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:57:45 No. 490890
>>490888 I mean, what else could they seize?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 21:58:38 No. 490891
>>490888 conspiracy theory shit like this is exactly what we don't need
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 22:01:26 No. 490892
>>490891 >spontaneous and unorganized >playing the objectives Pick one, idiot. Have you ever interacted with people? At least when playing vidya?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 22:02:04 No. 490895
>>490890 >>490893 Technically the Airport have Means of Production.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 22:02:46 No. 490896
>>490873 Right, murdering the workers who held off the whites and who were building communism and willing to work with the reds is a good thing. Of course.
You're more delusional than a liberal.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 22:02:49 No. 490897
Mods archive this shit NOW
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 22:03:07 No. 490898
>>490892 >protestors seize an airport >HURR DURR GLOWIES it's a bit of a leap, ain't it?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 22:03:39 No. 490899
>>676067
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 22:03:46 No. 490900
>>490896 >Makhno >Willing to work with the reds HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 22:05:17 No. 490902
>>490900 >I haven't read any history, I get my politics entirely from memes He literally met with Lenin in order to coordinate. Holy shit you're one retarded neckbeard.
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 22:06:29 No. 490903
Lots of derailment in the thread. Can we pls try and stay on topic?
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 22:07:33 No. 490904
>He literally met with Lenin in order to coordinate. >anarkiddie calling anyone a neckbeard
Anonymous 2022-01-05 (Wed) 22:10:06 No. 490905
>>676079 >>676079 >>676079 >>676079 >>676079
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