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File: 1641379869347.jpg (1.13 MB, 1600x1107, Kazakhstan.jpg)

 No.489758[Last 50 Posts]

>Protests started for gas prices raise two days ago
>Rapidly became widespread
>Government resigned few hours ago
<Protestors started storming palaces of government and institutions all around the country

What is your take on this anon?
Will this lead to something positive or is it Ukraine all over?

Also how do you think China and Russia will react to this?

 No.489761

Unfortunately I don't have enough knowledge of Kazakh politics to give you a takr

 No.489763

>>489761
Who does?
That's why i opened the thread, to gather some infos and comment the events

 No.489766

>>489763
>Who does?
Likely no one since this is an english language forum

 No.489769

>>489763
Try the Russian language thread

 No.489772

>>489769
If anons from there want to comment here they're welcome and encouraged.

 No.489775

PROTESTORS SEIZE PRESIDENT RESIDENCE IN ALMATY

https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1478684657088618496

 No.489778

>>489775
Damn look at em go

 No.489781

https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1478690672026828804

Government building in Aktobe (on the North of the country, near Russia) getting stormed by protestors too.

Shit seems escalating without pause.

 No.489783

Kremlin spox: 'we are convinced that our Kazakh friends can independently solve their internal problems.'

"Nur-Sultan (Kazakh capital) has NOT requested assistance from Moscow in dealing with the current crisis in Kazakhstan - 'it is important that no one interferes from the outside''

https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1478691684229779466


Getting more and more intricated.

 No.489785

very nice

 No.489788

File: 1641384141793.jpg (85.23 KB, 720x960, uk91urewma871.jpg)

Protests over oil prices took the form of leftist activism in chile. What are the odds that the peoples' party of kazakhstan takes advantage of these protests to seize control from nur otan?
What effect will this have on russia, who is simultaneously preparing for conflict in ukraine and cracking down on the KPRF?

 No.489791

Probably set up by US glowies, Kazakhstan was in the Russian/Chinese sphere of influence, yeah?
The only “revolutions” these days are the ones with CIA backing

 No.489793

>>489791
Without Kazakhstan half of the land part of BRI is fucked up.
Also yeah they share thousands of km of border with Russia and pretty much are in their sphere of influence.

 No.489796

>>489788
Very very very few.
This kind of shit never leads to anything good.

 No.489799

Sputnik correspondent taken hostage by protestors in Almaty.
Yeah this shit has written Maidan all over it.

https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1478699946450763779

 No.489801

>>489793
There a chance the Chinese and Russians might need to get involved, then?
Depending on who’s influencing the protests, there may be parties involved that want a chaotic civil war in Kazakhstan

Fuck no matter what the US seems to be the decisive player in world politics, if humanity will always bow before the Yankee then humanity deserves its death

 No.489804

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half this thread rn

 No.489806

>>489801
If shit goes sideways they'll be pretty much forced to get involved.
A NATO-aligned Kazakhstan means complete encirclement for BOTH Russia and China.

 No.489809

>>489804
<NOOOOOO You cannot recognize patterns

Dude get a grip

 No.489812

>>489785
Single most racist movie ever made. Fucking Goebels wouldn't be able to replicate it if he tried. The fact that its beloved by Americanoid liberals is just icing on the cake.

Imagine if you made a movie that starts with a black man living in a black-only community that's located in a trashed out ruined ghetto with trashbags everywhere. Then he introduces his neighbour the cracknsalesman and talks about celebrating the next anual Hotep festival where they will all have KFC and watermelon eating contest, after which they will go on to see who lootsled the most small busnesses, who raped the most white women and who commited most balck-on-black violance over the last year. Now imagine all that I just said, but the racism is now targeted at post-Soviet countries. Now you got Borat.

 No.489815

the early worker's movement had it fucking easy. they didn't have to check if an insurrection was genuine or not.

 No.489817

File: 1641385267937.png (905.72 KB, 749x630, wednesday.png)

you cannot predict the political and class character of a movement literally as soon as you hear of it, we will see if they are CIA stooges or a natural movement in due time.

 No.489820

>>489809
The human tendency to recognize patterns can be a blessing and a curse. At least wait until details come out regarding the protestors, what various governments say about it, etc. The assumption that any uprising is a colour revolution is one of the most depressing manifestations of pessimism among socialists.

 No.489823

>>489817
>Collapses government of one of the few remaining pro-Soviet states that was an integral part of the BRI and one of Russia and China’s few reliable allies
<Not suspicious as fuck
This has glow radiating all over it, friendo

 No.489826

>>489817
This is true, but chilling signs are showing,like for example protesters demanding vague bullshit like "Parliamentarian democracy" which is a telling sign of liberalism among the protestors.

>>489820
Any not explicitly socialist uprising is indeed a color revolution, this goes by definition of the term.

 No.489829

>>489820
Has there been a single uprising that successfully collapsed a government that wasn’t supported by the CIA and fat porky fucks in the past 22 years?

 No.489832

>>489823
>one of the few remaining pro-Soviet states
they had some of the harshest anti-communist purges out of the entire post-soviet bloc lmao

 No.489835

>>489812
Yeah it's a pretty degrading film but it also takes the piss out of burgers.

 No.489838

>>489832
Eh, will, the populace then
Either way this whole fiasco seems glowed to shit

 No.489841

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Please don't be glowieshit, please don't be glowieshit, please don't be glowieshit
I am so tired

 No.489843

>>489829
Yemen, in a sense. (the pro Saudi government did not collapse but has authority only on part of the country).
That's it.

>>489838
>>489841
For me there's an 80% likelihood of glow. Soon to give definitive verdicts but clues are already there.

 No.489846

>>489843
So the answer is basically no :(

 No.489849

>>489826
>Any not explicitly socialist uprising is indeed a color revolution
No a colour revolution is an uprising orchestrated by the CIA or other intelligence agents. The lack of an explicitly socialist character to an uprising doesn't mean it isn't an organic manifestation of a country's contradictions. In fact, revolutions sometimes don't develop a socialist character until after they succeed. Cuba is a good example of this.
>>489829
Arab Spring in Egypt. 2019 protests in Lebanon. Bolivia in 2020. Just off the top of my head.

 No.489852

Also reminder that the Chinese region DIRECTLY NEXT to Kazakhstan is Xinjiang.
Enough said.

 No.489854

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>>489843
if the only revolutions that can happen anymore is glow-funded pretend revolutions then we truly live in the darkest timeline
fukuyamachads, i kneel

 No.489857

>>489817

the correct take. simple as.

 No.489860

>>489849
Cuba happened in another historical setting.

>Lebanon and Bolivia

Lebanon protests had some glowie infiltration (and lead overall to nothing of relevance).

Bolivia instead is a good example, but is like the only genuine example of that.

 No.489863

Since we're talking about central asia, which country do you guys nominate for "best flag"?
I vote kyrgyzstan. It looks communist. It really should be the flag of a central asian imperial USSR.
Second best is kazakhstan, closely followed by tajikistan. 4th place is uzbekistan, its pretty ugly. But turkmenistan is the ugliest flag of the central asian region.

 No.489865

>>489863
Kazakhstan by far, the bird and the sun just look too awesome, though Kyrgystan is good too. The rest range from meh to ugly

 No.489868

>>489863
Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan the worst flags, then Kazakhstan in the middle and Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan on top of my personal ranking.

Also Tajikistan gave us Abdu Rozik vs Hasbullah memes.

 No.489871

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Critical support for the Kazakh protesters in their fight against the Blair-puppet regime.

 No.489873

I've heard some talk of the protesters wanting to enforce the 1993 constitution, any idea what that is about?

 No.489875

>In Aralsk, Kyzylorda region protesters shutdown the railway road and highway. Demanding resignation of Tokayev, Nazarbayev and proclamation of Parliament republic in Kazakhstan.

https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1478684658242146307

Very bad sign, when protests are on "muh corruption muh oligarchs" usually its because they are pozzed by liberalism

 No.489878

File: 1641386797752.png (1.41 MB, 1024x929, ClipboardImage.png)

Comrades, pirate-communist Kazakhstan when?

 No.489881

>>489875
there really do be people on this chan that have a flag and thus think they know everything about politics huh

 No.489884

PROTESTERS RAIDING A SMALL ARMS SHOP IN CENTRAL ALMATY

https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1478694513346588673

This is going to end VERY badly.

>>489878
Caspian priates complete with Ekranoplan.

>>489881
Yep.

 No.489887

>>489873
1993 constitution is parliamentary. To go out on a limb i imagine they want to replicate Kyrgyzstan which is a parliamentary republic and the only liberal democracy in the region.

 No.489890

>>489829
Also Nepal.

 No.489893

>As he strives to lead Kazakhstan protest, oligarch Mukhtar Ablyazov has published WhatsApp numbers of his HQ calling on people to connect and coordinate their actions. The numbers have Ukrainian prefixes.

https://twitter.com/leonidragozin/status/1478705818489004040

This glows in undescribable ways.

 No.489895

File: 1641387118297.png (238.8 KB, 567x531, ClipboardImage.png)

https://twitter.com/AlexKokcharov/status/1478635964457181185

This is an actual revolutionary moment. State authority is collapsing.

 No.489897

>>489895
It really is, but not in any pro socialist way shape or form as of now.

 No.489900

>>489893
Tbf these kind of wanks never have influence. There are always some whenever something happens in the post soviet space.

 No.489903

>>489758
>Also how do you think China and Russia will react to this?
neither is gonna support the protests if you ask about this

>Will this lead to something positive or is it Ukraine all over?

I doubt that it will be another Maidan or something like this. But I am not sure if communists will play na important role. (and I remind you that Nazarbayev banned the communist party)

 No.489906

President Tokayev is speaking, saying that the restrictions will be harsher tomorrow and that he does not intend to leave the country.

 No.489908

>>489906
So we're going for full acceleration at this point.
Let's see what will happen.

 No.489912

>>489895
That tends to be an end result of most CIA color “revolutions”

 No.489916

>>489908
The pace of this is wild. The protests started literally like less than 24 hours ago. The Kazakh elite now that they are only in power as long as they are useful for Russia, the Russians will probs collaborate with the new regime as long as it isn't openly hostile, so are cracking down before they can get power.

 No.489919

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https://vk.com/red_yurt

A group of Kazakh communists on vk. Follow for more info about the protests

 No.489922

>>489912
Yes, like the February Revolution of 1917.

 No.489925

>>489823
>few remaining pro-Soviet states
Bruh they're teaching their own version of holodomor to their kids, you're confusing it with something else.

 No.489928

>>489922
Figures dumbass tankoid fucks can’t actually discuss 21st Century politics, all you have is your eternal cope about an event that happened 80 years before you were even born
>>489925
Probably just getting mistaken
I know Kazakhstan has the most pro-Soviet population, was wrong about the government

 No.489931

Let us try to establish certain facts:

Who is the current administration, what are their views and ideology, what are their allegiances geopolitically, how have they managed the country?

Who is the protest movement? What do they want? What is the class character of the movement? What have been their tactics? Who are they aligned with geopolitically?

 No.489933

>>489928
>Probably just getting mistaken
>I know Kazakhstan has the most pro-Soviet population, was wrong about the government
Lamo you have been speaking like an authority all of this thread and you then admit you know fuckall lamo.

 No.489936

Xi is fucking fuming right now, the US got him beat.

 No.489938

>>489871
the civilian protestors were also striking workers by the way, typical of the guardian to leave that out lmao

 No.489942

>>489936
If libs come out on top of this and of the Myanmar civil war China will be completely encircled by hostile states.

 No.489945

File: 1641388889040.jpg (31.36 KB, 510x556, images-9.jpg)

Just a reminder that just because a country works closely with russia and china and is part of the post-soviet sphere, doesn't mean that they are pro-USSR and pro-communist. For example; russia recently supported azerbaijan over armenia (implicitly) despite armenia having more stalinism and azerbaijan being aligned with turk roaches. For another example, mongolia works with both russia and china, but their government has no sympathy for communism whatsoever.

 No.489947

>>489942
I don't see it, how so?

 No.489951

President Tokayev assuming direct control:

 No.489954

>>489933
When did I speak as an authority? All I really said is that this seems glowed to shit because Kazakhstan is just factually in Russia and China’s sphere of influence, and curiously most countries that have “revolutions” this century that change nothing beyond creating social devastation and expanding NATO influencehave been Russian or Chinese allies

 No.489958

President Tokayev says that he is the chairman of security council from now, instead of Nazarbayev.

https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1478713537065369601

Nazarbayev was the big boss of Kazakh politics in the last 30 years, so this could be big.

>>489947
South Korea Philippines Taiwan to the East, Myanmar and India to the South,
(eventually) Kazakhstan to the West.

Maybe it's not a full encirclement but it'd get pretty fucking close to it in such a scenario.

 No.489961

>>489958
Forgot to add Japan of course

 No.489965

>>489931
>Who is the current administration, what are their views and ideology, what are their allegiances geopolitically, how have they managed the country?
Kazakhstan has been ruled by the same political elite since the collapse of the Soviet Union. Nursultan Nazarbayev was in charge until 2019 when he retired, having been a KPSS apprachnik since his youth. He took control of the SSR in 1984. The current president is his handpicked successor Kassym-Jomart Tokayev, he himself has a history in the soviet diplomatic corps, working close in China. Ideologically they are effectively Authoritarian Centrists, and rule a dominant party structure like Russia. Kazakhstan is geopolitically aligned with Russia and to China, although maintains pretty friendly relations with the West.

>Who is the protest movement? What do they want? What is the class character of the movement? What have been their tactics? Who are they aligned with geopolitically?

Literally sprung up overnight, caused by a doubling in the cost of fuel (Kazakhstan is a petrostate where much of their welfare can be boiled down to "fuel cheap"). We do not know much else about that apart from the fact they have been willing to be violent in the face of APCs, but also let security forces collaborate with them. The only demand articulated thus far, apart from the reduction of fuel prices, has been the reversion to the 1993 constitution: which would enshrine a parliamentary constitution like the only other liberal democracy in the region, Kyrgyzstan. Apart from that, we know fuckall: all of this has happened literally within 24 hours. The only flags they have, when they have flags, are Kazakh ones.

 No.489968

>>489954
>"When did I speak as an authority"
Right you have just been making statements about the nature of revolution as a disinterested party…

 No.489971

>>489951
Tokayev sounding an awful lot like Tokarev.
Nomen omen?

 No.489974

>>489968
>Nature of revolution
You mean I refused to just blindly support some movement that collapsed one of the few staunchly Russian and Chinese aligned governments left?

 No.489977

File: 1641389507957.png (2.74 MB, 1200x1200, ClipboardImage.png)

>>489854
>history has ended
… Really, anon?

 No.489980

>>489942
What libs? There's one exiled oligarch trying to get himself involved but he's getting ignored. There's no opposition clique trying to take power at this point.

 No.489983

>>489954
I'm almost certain that's Washington's intention striking at central Asia as an attempt to contain China is definitely Washington's strategic plan

I don't see it working out in Washington's favour here though
>>489958
Most of those aren't really all that hostile to China even india

 No.489986

Something about this whole thing just seems off to me:

>Most strategic location against BOTH Russia and China in the world

>China completely silent
>Russia already said they have no desire to intervene

I know that Putin is more cucked than what it seems, but are both China AND Russia so blind to the dangers that could come to them from this?

 No.489989

>>489986
Bruh its clear you have no idea what you are talking about. Russia historically steps back from revolutions in Central Asia because it knows it can work with the successor governments due to the fact their governments are so dependentment on Russia. See: Kyrgyzstan (three times), also Armenia.

 No.489992

>>489980
<He's getting ignored
Are you sure about that?
Asking cause it'd be positive if liberal glowies were sidelined, but i have no info on that.

 No.489995

>>489986
their plan is probably to let the public figures with ire take the fall, install a new guy a la >>489951
>>489958
then let them work up to security-stateism. without a unifying figure to protest against the protests will lose unity, and they can be bargained with or crushed individually.

 No.489999

>>489992
These people are always ignored, even during Belarus the "Expat Organisers" nobody gave a fuck about them. All of this has happened in less than 24hrs, no way the oligarch expat NGOs have gotten in.

 No.490002

>>489989
That could be true, but what if a pro NATO government sprungs out of all his shit?

 No.490006

>>489977
Also this
I believe the statement that it is “always darkest before the dawn” is profoundly true in a historical sense
The first communist revolution began amidst the darkness, death, and devastation of the First World War
When the fascists held nearly all of the world in their hands, fighting a war with a different faction of western imperialists, and piercing its way to strike at the very heart of the revolution, when all hope seemed truly lost and the Wehrmacht marched on Moscow after taking almost all of Europe, the working class defeated them and destroyed that iteration of fascism
Even the liberal revolutions occurred in a backdrop of suffering, darkness, and death

The new socialist movement is emerging in a period of 50 years of wage stagnation, with most of mankind having become proletarianized, while the imperialists of the world promise death and suffering beyond imagination, either in the form of a Third World War or the culmination of ecological ruin, the pandemic has only been a preview of the mass death they promise us
And in this darkest night the Sun may rise again

 No.490009

>>490002
It never happens because Russia negotiates. Also Central Asians love Russia lol, there is a reason they all move there.

 No.490013

>>489999
Belarus shit had way less traction though from the onset, it was just Minsk practically.

>>489995
Interesting insight, it could very well be then. It's a risky strategy though, especially if things go sideways.

 No.490016

>>490002
That's not going to control gas prices

 No.490019

>>489992
Going by the info written in >>489919

 No.490024

https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1478722807668346885

>The building of the Almaty Police Department has been seized by protesters, according to several http://Orda.kz sources. Weapons also captured


Shit is getting VERY REAL.

 No.490026

>>490006

abolitionist movement did this too, Haiti emerged and it'simplications fucking rocked europe to it's core for nearly a century despite the near total spectrum control the settler-colonial prject held.

 No.490029

>https://twitter.com/lettera_mosca/status/1478723377879781376

<Metalworks in Balkhash stopped working, and workers have joined the protests


It's happening fast.

 No.490032

REPORTS PROTESTERS ARE TRYING TO TOPPLE A NAZARBAYEV STATUE

 No.490034

Anyone knows of Communist elements in Kazaghsthan?
Appearantly the communist party was banned in 2015

 No.490037

>>489933
>speaking like an authority all of this thread and you then admit you know fuckall
green flag in a nutshell

 No.490040

Real talk:
If this is socialist oriented, its one of the most based things in years.
If this ends up with a nothingburger, its just a testament of what popular outrage can do if organized.
If this ends up with Nato bases in Kazakhstan, the nightmare will only get worse from now on.

 No.490042

>bicarmical-Legislative and Executive government fans.
>Auto/Technocratic 'Emergency Security Council for saving the nation' appreciators

 No.490045

>>490034
Yeah the communist movement is underground.

 No.490048

>>490040
This is either the first piercing of the dawn
A reminder that the Sun may rise again
Or the night deepening in its darkness

 No.490051

>>489812
>>489835
You’re both correct, I’d say. But Borat does have that problem of lacking the clarity of purpose necessary for people to get that it’s satire

 No.490054


 No.490057

>>490040
You better believe NATO will try to get bases in there. They might even have been trying to precipitate such a situation just for that reason. Which means that any burger comrades need to actually put up meaningful resistance when the US starts sabre rattling or mobilizing against whatever ends up happening in Kazakhstan.

 No.490060

Clashes between police and protesters in Pavlodar: https://t.me/seychas_kg/11656

 No.490062

>CSTO sources say to Russian state outlet RIA that Kazakhstan has not requested assistance from CSTO as of now

https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1478725352872685578

 No.490064

The office of the prosecutor general has been burnt: https://t.me/seychas_kg/11660

 No.490066

Airport in Aktau has stopped working: https://t.me/seychas_kg/11661

 No.490068

BANK RUNS POTENTIALLY HAPPENING DUE TO CASHLESS TRANSACTIONS BEING CUT OFF

https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1478726637843881985

 No.490071

these are the two biggest opposition parties and therefore the most important focus of the protests.
The second biggest party in kazakhstan, the centre-right democratic party;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ak_Zhol_Democratic_Party
The third largest party, the left-wing peoples' party of kazakhstan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Party_of_Kazakhstan
The banned communist party of kazakhstan;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Kazakhstan
Altogether, the opposition may prove to be largely communist in nature, because that's how post-soviet states work. Most likely, the west will try its best to support the democratic party, though the left has a chance to take over the protests and gain governmental control too. It's a gamble.

 No.490074

>>490051
Given some of the things Sacha Baron Cohen said promoting Borat 2 he's probably just a complete shitter. He's got completely fucked attitudes toward women and politics, saying shit to the effect of "how dare you call yourself a woman if you don't vote for Biden?" and has a similar attitude toward the US as the stereotype used against Kazakhstan. The sequel more than the original made it pretty clear that he's just your typical (Zionist) Brit hating on the US and the people of Asia.

 No.490077

>>490071
Don't do that Shay, don't give me hope.

 No.490080

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 No.490082

>>490071
So far I haven't seen any signs of any of them being involved in the protests, what the fuck do you mean "focus of the protests".
People want cheap gas.

 No.490085

>>490068
I remember the Belarusians trying to do this a couple of weeks in, if it is happening organically the government is fucked. This has as much of an impact as a general strike on the economy of the nation.

 No.490088

>>490085
Would be a pity if other people took note.

 No.490091

>>490074
Anglia delenda est. Fuckers starved my ancestors and then partitioned their country.

 No.490094

>>490040
>If this is socialist oriented
m8 i wish i could be as optimistic as you while reading news

pic related was just posted by an ukrainian on kohlchan /int/. all the obvious burger glow uyghurs there are rejoicing about the habbenings in kazakhstan

 No.490097

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>"The protests in Kazakhstan are controlled from the outside"
<The Azerbaijani Ambassador to Moldova
Okay but who the fuck asked???

 No.490100

Well that escalated quickly.

 No.490103

>>490094
I said above in >>489843 that the likelihood of glow was high indeed anon.

Also the rest of the post tells what would happen in the worst case.

 No.490106

>>490082
>people want cheap gas
Yes, but they wont remain directionless forever. Someone will take advantage of the unrest one way or another. The protestors currently seem to be doing some major damage to the kazakh political system at the moment. Currently they're winning it seems, but that might change once the government mobilizes a defence. The question is, WHO WILL DIRECT THE DIRECTIONLESS PROTESTS

 No.490109

>>490106
>WHO WILL DIRECT THE DIRECTIONLESS PROTESTS
Nobody, they will get gunned down like 10 years ago.

 No.490112

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 No.490115

>>489785
>>490074
It's time for kazakhstan to redeem themselves from humiliation.

 No.490118

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 No.490121


 No.490123

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 No.490125

cool, cool

 No.490127

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>>490118
>>490112
Where the fuck did all this come from? It's gotta be glowshit, I refuse to believe some disorganized dudes managed to do overnight what actually organized groups have tried to do for decades LMAO

 No.490130

File: 1641392324909.mp4 (1.55 MB, 432x410, urfwr7O6HQcYrSoN.mp4)

>Reportedly, entire personnel of a police station in Atyrau, #Kazakhstan has joined the protesters

https://twitter.com/Den_2042/status/1478719640993947654

 No.490132

>>490127
You've never seen Central Asians fight have you?

 No.490135

>>490094
USA WINS AGAIN

 No.490138

>>490109
Revolutions are always propelled on the momentum of short term, immediate issues. The French Revolution happened because people wanted cheap bread. Maybe somebody will come in to galvanize this into a proper movement, maybe not. However these short term concerns shouldn't be dismissed as unrelated to real revolutionary change.

 No.490142

File: 1641392530560.mp4 (1.19 MB, 1280x720, 8JrG3RW0VGWniHWA.mp4)

From Almaty

 No.490145

>>490135
If this was USA orchestrated, winning would be the last thing that happened

 No.490148

>>490103
the worst case is a large scale war soon, because this is quite likely the opening of a second front under russia's belly amidst an already highly explosive situation. the burgers are escalating further.

 No.490151

Are the CIA with us inn this thread with us too schizos?

 No.490153

>>490151
Yes, it's a matter of public record that some ""people"" in the janitor team work for langley.

 No.490157

File: 1641392939633.jpg (156.36 KB, 648x924, jam.jpg)

>>490151
The CIA are all stuck in traffic and can't come

 No.490160

>>489758
Idrk about that overall situation, but if such events were real it would have been Langley-orchestrated ones.
What's their goal first place?

 No.490163

>>490157
>bumpass
kek

 No.490167

>>490160
>What's their goal first place?
Gas for 50.
As long as this remains their slogan and demand the protest is glow proof, no lib "opposition" can do shit about gas prices

 No.490171

File: 1641393310454.gif (1.42 MB, 320x173, adln6eXy.gif)


 No.490174

>>490167
They already obtained gas for 80 tenge, and for 50 in a region though.

 No.490178

File: 1641393342586.jpg (182.25 KB, 1300x956, 123312312123.jpg)

Putins shitty oligarchy collapsing all over the place gives KPRF lots of opportunities. Putin looks like a weak little shit currently.

 No.490180

Time to call upon the general intellect of leftypol:

PROTESTS GLOW OR LEGIT?

Press 0 for Glow
Press 1 for Legit

 No.490183

>>490160
They don't know
This is like when the dog catches the car it's chasing
Doubt comrade Xi or Putin will be losing any sleep over this other than the human cost to Kazakhs if things keep going out of control

 No.490187

>>490178
Bro KPRF are pro-putin

 No.490190

>>490180
0.5 because I’m not sure yet

 No.490193

>>490180
both simultaneously

 No.490196

File: 1641393496690.jpg (167.7 KB, 955x1300, 123123312.jpg)

>>490187
No the manlet disowned them after last election made KPRF too popular.

 No.490199


 No.490202

>>490196
>the manlet disowned them
Didn't stop Zyuganov from licking his balls and swearing loyalty right after the election

 No.490206

>>490187
Isn't that just most of the old fucks in the party? Afaik the youth wing is much more radical
Also I'm pretty sure they got raided so Putin gave up on them

 No.490209

>>490180
I'm going glow, hope I'm wrong

 No.490212


 No.490214

>>490180
>glow or legit
Bro people need to shut the fuck up lol. Let me explain it simply.
>if the democratic party takes over the protests, they are glow
<if the peoples party and the banned communist party take over the protests, it is legit
Simple as.

 No.490217


 No.490220


 No.490223

File: 1641394293504.jpg (22.47 KB, 252x249, 1604505126738.jpg)

>>490180
Dubs: its a glow
Trips: its legit
Quads USSR 2.0 confirmed

 No.490226

>>490214
this
the protest is in a quantum state right now
it has yet to have the wave function collapsed
and moreover outside "observation" is going to reduce it to more binary results than if allowed to follow an organic progression.

 No.490229

>>490180
Idk, so 0.5 too, like >>490190

 No.490232

ALMATY AIRPORT SEIZED BY PROTESTERS

It keep getting worse and worse

 No.490234

>>490232
You mean better and better

 No.490237

Half of my family lives near almata, they say everyone is pissed off at the government.

 No.490239

>>490234
>>490237
Is corruption rife, and growth sucked?

 No.490242

>>490234
This
We just cant stop winning glowiebros

 No.490245

>ITT: russian and american glowies judging protests about gas prices before they even have any economic or political demands

 No.490247

>>490245
>demanding cheap fuel devoid of idpol is glowie

 No.490251

>>490242
Ebin. Yellow vests were glowing too?

 No.490254

Lmao, the elites are fleeing to russia with the shadow president or hiding in the capital.
Army and police is joining the protesters everywhere and they have seized the airport of almata.

 No.490256

Yeah thinking about it Washington has a strategic goal to try and get the central Asian states to form a geopolitical bloc as a counterweight to China but this doesn't help make one in the slightest

 No.490258

>>490239
On a fishing trip there 3 years ago, my uncle drove me through the country side and showed how the roads get worse the further you from almaty, there are villages full of men waiting on the street for work. And told me how corrupt and worthless the government was. And he is a well of software engineer.

 No.490261

File: 1641396225838.png (1.13 MB, 1123x967, ClipboardImage.png)

>Kazakhs talking about the high price of oil and gas
<Uzbeks

 No.490263

>>490261
tbf uzbek been getting away with cleanest pussy in the land

 No.490267

>>490251
France has no geopolitical importance to us, a key BRI member on the other hand….
We must stop those evil chinks and ruskies from getting too upitty and disrupting profits for us capitalCHADS

 No.490270

What indicators are there this is a glow op and not merely a changing of the guard to what will amount to the same situation?

Besides it’s vicinity to Zionist occupied east Asia? Like anything concrete?

 No.490272

>>490267
>France has no geopolitical importance to us,
Glowuygha you aint glowin.

 No.490276

>>490270
It wont be a changing of the guard, there is no guard to change to. If the kazakh elite is brought down it will either be a foreign one or something way more based.

 No.490280

>>490258
>What indicators are there this is a glow op
i can't believe that /leftypol/ has become this ignorant. this thread is full of glow uyghurs

 No.490283

>>490254
I love this.

 No.490286

>>490270
>What indicators are there this is a glow op and not merely a changing of the guard to what will amount to the same situation?
Please refer to >>490214

 No.490290

>>490280
I’m talking about solid stuff, not circumstantial evidences and opinions

 No.490294

>A group of people is trying to storm the building of the Auezovsky police department in Almaty, the correspondent of Sputnik Kazakhstan reports
>The police shoot back on the roof of the building with presumably traumatic weapons, using stun grenades.
>The police building is located in a residential area of the city, there are many residential buildings around. Locals are afraid of looting.
https://t.me/sputnikKZ/13893

 No.490297

>>490254
>police join protest without question
Seems someone's being generous with funds to me.

 No.490300

>>490280
And I only ask because this is an administration Tony Blair did spin for against striking workers being shot dead.

>>490286
Okay and what’s livelyhood/ evidence of either

 No.490302

>>490272
>we should topple a governement that already does everything we tell them to because reasons
Genius! Looks like we've got future CIA director over here

 No.490304

>>490297
that or the protest in question is of petite-bouj character

 No.490306

Nothingburger

 No.490308

>>490304
>>490297
Or the government is so unpopular that even its enforcers want no part of it, like the Cossacks in February 1917.

 No.490310

>>490276
I mean, the other option then is that it won’t immediately lose all power. Though it seems like it is doing so. In that situation, it will be some kind of military government, but the president is also the head of the armed forces. But that is basically what the government is anyway, so, would just end up a changing of the guard. Long term obviously that has its own consequences

 No.490312

Folks, what is going on in Kazakhstan is nothing more than an another MALTHUSIAN CIA BACKED COLOUR REVOLUTION! The old government of Kazakhstan is a friend to the working families of the nation. It participates in the socialist anti-imperialist economic trade with Russia and China. Folks, they want to loot Kazakhstan folks. No two ways about it. And look, first thing they do is pull down statues of Nazerbayev. You know what was the first thing that anti-soviet colour revolutions did? That's right folks, they pulled down statues of Lenin, and now they are doing it Nazerbayev. And I was actually in the same room as Nazerbayev when I was in Russia and let me tell you he is a great guy and now they are trying to destroy the cultural heritage of his image in Khazakhstan. Unbelievable! I know why they are doing this folks. Its because THEY are cruel and sociopathic.

 No.490313

If there is no organised opposition. It’s not going to be good. Sorry anarcho bros. Unless it’s an underground opposition doing the whole thing, in which case it could be super based, but that remains conjecture and fan fiction at this point

 No.490315

File: 1641397300884.jpg (190.91 KB, 720x521, 20220105_103030.jpg)

>>490300
>Okay and what’s livelyhood/ evidence of either
There is no evidence of anything at all yet. The protests started yesterday. Give it a week and we might know who's protesting and what they want. It's muddy water right now. Step back and observe.

 No.490317

>>675051
Tankie aestheticism at it again.

 No.490318

>>490315
>protests that have turned the police and so forth happened literally over night
Big doubt, I’m going to work now but I would suggest people try and look into the build up of this. If there is none, the glowdar goes beep beep beep

 No.490320

>>490315
This
Nothing to see here folks
Just a spontaneous collapse of a state that has absolutely no relation to america's two great competitors

 No.490322

>>675051
>NOOOOO I must see le based symbol in a protest or its not worth it
Log the fuck off.

>>490320
Reminder that the paper tiger of western glowie orgs absolutely shat the bed in the 90's and failed to predict both the Berlin wall falling and the collapse of USSR. You are a fucking retard shadowboxing your own paranoia if you think anything benefiting the US is also caused by the US.

 No.490324

the US is incompetent and does nothing ever

 No.490326

File: 1641397906722.pdf (843.17 KB, 180x255, towards independence.pdf)

>>490320
Hey mr. Fed, what do you think of the Southron Peoples' Liberation Front based in the southern united states? Based or cringe?

 No.490328

https://www.reuters.com/markets/asia/kazakh-gas-revolt-is-timely-canary-coalmine-2022-01-05/
Hrrrm
Interesting thing is we aren't seeing the full court press about ebil ebil dictator must go that's part of the colour revolution playbook

 No.490329

>>490322
>haha
>glowies have no power since the 90s haha
>9/11/ Afghan war/ Iraq war/ collapse of Yugoslavia/ countless other shit / Syria/ Venezuela/ Bolivia/

Bro shhh

 No.490331

>People protest because of gas prices/inflation
<Is this CIA glow op?
Pathetic
>>490320
Socialism isnt when you support one bourgeois state against another
>>490261
Kek

 No.490333

File: 1641398073383.png (1.16 MB, 1600x1080, ClipboardImage.png)


 No.490335

>>489758
What if this is the MSS first attempt at actually overthrowing a government? Maybe that's why it feels so wonky due to lack of experience.

 No.490337

>>490329
>9/11
Drink your meds, Bush didn't do it. You only believe it because you read he did it 100 times from brainrotten idiots.
>Afghan war
Which was a direct war? And also one that fucking failed horribly. Not adding to my confidance of US deepstate.
>Iraq war
Again, direct fucking war, not colour revolution.
>Collapse of Yugoslavia
Shit collapsed on it self when they realized IMF isn't their friend and when a retard with a bottle in his ass accidentaly set off the spark. Try harder.
>Syria
Didn't succeed
>Venezuela
Another failure
>Bolivia
Even bigger failure

 No.490340

Am I missing something, where the fuck do you see glow here?
Are you just guessing it because the country is near China?

 No.490342

>>490335
that'd be funny but why would CHYNA want this? kazakh already signed the BRI

 No.490344

>>490340
>Country is friendly to the "based" Russian oligarchy
>This musd mean da burgaz meid another golour rebolushun!

 No.490347

>>490337
You are a hopeless case. 9/11 glows like Fukushima and there is literally heaps of evidence. Would it interest you to know that Nicolas Maduro has what is supposed to be the biggest collection of 9/11 documents on earth, Fidel Castro wrote a 4000 word essay on the subject. But I suppose these people are brain rotten. JFK was killed by dirty commies too eh.

>Afghanistan was a direct war

And all the opium just fucking upped smoked itself from a spoon in a back ally, crazy how opium b like that

>Iraq

I take it you haven’t been paying attention to Iraq recently?

>Syria a failure for the CIA

The Middle East was heavily damaged, Turkey is moving into Syria, and the far right is on the rise due to a migrant crisis so the glows banking arm is left alone.
>Venezuela
They have sanctioned the shit out of them and ruined the economy
>Bolivia
They still couped the government out of office for a year.

 No.490349

>>490340
I mean, it looks like shit, remains to be seen whether it smells and tastes like shit, but yes, that is what we are doing

 No.490351

>Sage is a 9/11 truther
and here I thought he could not get more retarded

 No.490352

>>490347
>there is literally heaps of evidenc
All debunked.

 No.490355

>>490344
This
This happening at the most strategically important country at the moment is just a coincidence
Coincidences happen schizo

 No.490356

File: 1641398820944.gif (994.05 KB, 275x207, 1537072226350.gif)

>>490312
>From there, he supported Russian President Boris Yeltsin against the attempted coup in August 1991 by the Soviet extremists. The Soviet Union then fell apart after the coup failed, though Nazarbayev went to great lengths to maintain close economic ties with Russia by introducing Kazakhstan into the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) and eventually the Eurasian Economic Union (EEU).

 No.490358

>>490340
My read is burger glowies were just starting to push for a colour revolution since Washington recently opened another front in its war to keep USA as top dog of the world in central Asia , but it went off far sooner than they expected and over the wrong thing

Last thing Washington wants is to remind it's population of is the price of gas and necessities right now

 No.490361

File: 1641398965714.jpg (607.19 KB, 1024x806, 20220105_110823.jpg)

The borders of central asia need to be fixed bros. That shit is mad ugly

 No.490362

>>490344
They're as friendly to US and EU as they are to Russia and China, they love any foreign investor as long as they can invest.

>>490349
We barely know how it looks like since the internet is down, show me where did you see it looking like shit.

 No.490364

>>490351
Imagine not being a 9/11 truther kek. Yes my man it was just the bad Arabs being bad as usual.

Osama Bin Laden had literally zero connection to the CIA. Not through the Afghan Mujihadeen, the drug trade, his extremely wealthy Saudi family. That is all just fiction.

Not being a 9/11 truther is peak opinion haver mind worms. You simply haven’t looked.

 No.490366

>>490361
>that aral sea
man

 No.490368


 No.490370

File: 1641399198372.jpg (5.76 KB, 287x175, take em.jpg)


 No.490372

>>490361
USSR 2.0 would fix it

 No.490374

>>490331
>country that has the biggest military in the world, has military bases on all corners of the world, is the sole reason capitalism as a global systen is maintained, is actively fighting against even the smallest disidence against said system
>some poor shithole with with some rich people and corruption that sometimes actually helps the few socialist nations still around
<western "leftists": WTF THEY'RE LITERALLY THE SAME

 No.490377

>>490358
>My read is burger glowies were just starting to push for a colour revolution since Washington recently opened another front in its war to keep USA as top dog of the world in central Asia
Is your read based on evidence or are you blindly speculating like would on a plot of a tv show based on the events of a previous season?
Who's the glowies candidate for regime change? What did they do to prop him up?

 No.490379

>>490374
>sometimes helps socialist nations
hello where are the proofs

 No.490381

>>490374
>helps the few socialist nations still around
helping UNITA is actually existing internationalism
at last I truly see

 No.490383

>>490337
Are you a native russian speaker? Because “выпей лекарство” is a very Russian thing to say.

 No.490385

>>490358
>Government raises gas prices by 100%
<CIA did this
https://tass.ru/ekonomika/13352231
>>490374
Kazakh government supported war on terror you idiot. They sell out their country to foreign bougies (including burgers). There is nothing based about this

 No.490387

>>490377
The pushing for colour revolution bit is speculation that at least a faction of burger glowdom was trying to open a second front against China in central Asia recently is fact

 No.490389

is there any evidence that this is going to lead anywhere, or just an overblown riot

 No.490390

pigs getting slaughtered

https://t.me/rybar/23357

 No.490392

>>490389
We can only wait and observe

 No.490394

>>490383
*Išgerk vaistus

 No.490396

Literally every single color revolution is started over pointless lib shit like rigged election or whatever the fuck, this is not it.

 No.490398

>>490390
>IP grabber, key logger, crypto miner link
Not clicking that shit.

 No.490400

Protester says
>we want to live like in Sweden and Norway
https://t.me/ru2ch_news/28983

 No.490401

>>490400
Well he knows what good life is.

 No.490403

>>490400
nice virus faggot

 No.490405

>>490398
>>490403
Its telegram links

 No.490407

>>490405
>telegram
nice virus faggot

 No.490409

>>490400
>>490390
better post screenshots and download the vids

retards here don't know what Telegram is

 No.490411

File: 1641400400707.webm (482.71 KB, 512x384, ruse.webm)


 No.490413

>>490405
>GLOWgram

 No.490415

>>490409
I am on mobile, can't download them.

 No.490417

>>490385
>>490385
Eh lad so did Syria didn't stop the United States from trying to topple Assad

Burger glowies colour revolution prep if it existed may have helped the success so far on this by accident, but the last thing burger glowied want is people focused on real shit like the price if gas and living standards

 No.490419

File: 1641400524034.png (128.68 KB, 560x640, ClipboardImage.png)


 No.490421

>>490368
>>490370
Do research, I know it’s very time consuming to watch Agent Kochinski streams, but it isn’t making you smarter

 No.490423

>>490409
I know what Telegram is, I simply avoid using it because of OPSEC.
>>490415
>I am on mobile
But of course.

 No.490425

>>490421
>Do research
I'd rather keep myself clear from schizo blog. Have enough schizophrenia from leftypol alone.

 No.490427

File: 1641400872137.png (59.16 KB, 155x191, 1641153569645.png)

Now that I think about it, might be legitimate. Otherwise we'd already have 10 million twitter accounts named @Tatyiana1293563 or some shit spamming #SOSKazhakstan by this point

 No.490429

>>490423
A law enforcement agent got sniped and died

 No.490431

>>490421
I did, a third of the conspiracy shit has no arguments at all, the other third is based on misinfo and the last third can be easily explained by molten aluminium from the plane.

 No.490434

They took military equipment and personnel.
Why can’t Burgers do this?
https://mobile.twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1478684871103070208

 No.490436

>>490434
To be fair burger police are so bloodthirsty that if you as much as touch a gun you'd probably run over by tanks

 No.490438

>>490434
Because the treats still flow.

 No.490440

>>490427
URGENT, B👀ST:
HERE'S WHAT'S HAPPENING IN KAZAKHSTAN AND HOW CAN YOU HELP IT (🧵 1/?)

 No.490442

>>490436
You’re right. Standing in front of a tank is news but getting shot by police is not. Hence why in Burgerstan they use the later when shit hits the fan.

 No.490444

File: 1641401372297.png (198.81 KB, 375x434, ClipboardImage.png)


 No.490446

>>490436
This is why I really wanted Trump to send the tanks in in 2020. We would’ve had our own Tank Man and it would’ve probably changed things.

 No.490448

>>490444
What software is this?

 No.490450


 No.490452

>>490400
BASED SOCIAL DEMOCRAT REVOLUTION????

 No.490454

>>490450
Thanks pirate flag

 No.490456

STATE OF EMERGENCY DECLARED

 No.490458

It's over… It's fucking over. Afghanistan 2.0

 No.490460

>Tokaev has declared he's assuming the position of the chairman of the security council of Kazakshtan, displacing Nursultan Nazarbaev, who's previously held this position

https://www.rbc.ru/politics/05/01/2022/61d596709a7947392ca4369e

It's happening, the puppet has become the master

 No.490462

>>490458
Depends if Russian armed forces make the move.

 No.490464

Glowies to the rescue!
Not to the side retards itt think though

 No.490465

>>490460
>>490460
Nazaraev was a yeltsinite and his family is apparently deeply ingrained in the ogliarchy.

 No.490467

>>490464
The current government is quite warm towards the west from what I have read.

 No.490469

>>490462
>implying China will just sit and watch

 No.490472

>>490464
>>490467
every central asian state is warm to the west to deter annexation by Russia but also totally depend on Russia/China to survive because they have few-to-no practical resources or development
there is a really low chance that they would ever flip to the west/NATO because they simply do not invest in the well-being of these countries while russia and china does. like, the best example is Chile, where America basically demanded them to hand over all their wealth and thank the US for robbing them - of course the west isn't going to make unconditional investments in these countries with no desire for immediate kickbacks, its against their ideology.

 No.490474

>>490469
China is cucked, they didn't do shit since vietnam defeated them in the 70s

 No.490476

>>489812
<Imagine if you made a movie that starts with a black man living in a black-only community that's located in a trashed out ruined ghetto with trashbags everywhere. Then he introduces his neighbour the cracknsalesman and talks about celebrating the next anual Hotep festival where they will all have KFC and watermelon eating contest, after which they will go on to see who lootsled the most small busnesses, who raped the most white women and who commited most balck-on-black violance over the last year.
Soooo, like "Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood"? Great fucking movie.

 No.490479

File: 1641402840934.jpg (239.16 KB, 1158x941, central asia map.jpg)

guys ive done it
ive fixed central asia

 No.490481

>>490479
aren't they all the same general turkic culture anyways? they could probably just be one SSR.

 No.490483

This protest is eerily close to the anniversary of the US Capitol Riots. I think this functions as a diversion as well as a geostrategic move against Russia and China.

 No.490485

Remember guys. The Soviet Union is popular here. If this were a populist revolution you would see Soviet flags everywhere

 No.490486

File: 1641403402255.png (27.76 KB, 560x195, ClipboardImage.png)


 No.490488


 No.490490

>>490486
Why is Burger Antifa so incompetent? Why can’t they do cool shit like this?

 No.490492

>>490479
Silly uyghur

 No.490495

>>490490
Kazakh police is incompetent. Burger one isn't.

 No.490497

File: 1641403624272.mp4 (3.7 MB, 640x640, china_1.mp4)


 No.490499

>>490485
Its popular but I doubt the masses are that class conscious (example: vid of protester refering to scandinavian socdem system as ideal)

 No.490501

>>490460
Don't let those fucks seize control. No old faces should remain in politics, all must be replaced with new faces, otherwise it's merely a damage control from the ruling clique.

 No.490503

>>490474
China is different today. They keep Russia alive with their economy.

 No.490505

>>490497
“What a peaceful organization!”
- Noah Smith

 No.490508

>>490479
Is that Tannu Tuva with Khan characteristics?

 No.490510

>>490485
This is true. The problem is their oligarchy use Soviet symbolism.

 No.490512

>>490497
uyghurwave kino

 No.490514

File: 1641404072868.jpg (98.02 KB, 1644x518, turanic juche.jpg)

>>490508
It's mongolia with a coastline

 No.490516


 No.490518

Reminder that Kazakhstan is 1st place in the world in uranium production (40.8% of world production), 12th place in oil, 8th in coal, 2nd in asbestos, 3rd in chromium, 10th in gold, 4th in titanium

 No.490519

>>490518
And the No. 1 exporter of potassium.

 No.490521

>>490519
I didn't knew they grow bananas

 No.490523

>>490518
So what is their current government allegiance towards America, China and Russia?

 No.490525

>>490523
>U.S. companies are leading producers in Kazakhstan’s oil industry, which contributes up to 44 percentof the country’s budget. In 2019, they accounted for about 30 percent of the total oil extracted in Kazakhstan, compared with about 17 percent produced by China’s CNPC, Sinopec, and CITIC, and 3 percent by Russia’s Lukoil.

>Kazakhstan’s trade turnover with the United States (almost $2 billion in 2020) can’t be compared with its turnover with China ($21.4 billion), or with Russia ($19 billion). But it’s still three times the size of the trade with the United States that all the other Central Asian states do put together (about $0.6 billion).

 No.490528

I don't think people realise how bad it is in most or central Asia. The communist parties there are harassed and banned to a degree only seen in the temporarily occupied Baltic SSRs and Ukraine. Near feudal conditions prevail in much of the region, it really went into the dark ages after 1991.

 No.490529

>>490521
Lol based retard

 No.490531

STATE REPORTING 8 POLICE DEAD, OVER 300 INJURED
https://t.me/rian_ru/137880

 No.490533

So is it glowuyghurs or legit grassroots?

 No.490535

>>490521
The entire country is going bananas.

 No.490537

>>490533
considering the circumstances it looks grassy to me.

 No.490539

What fucking amazes me is the lack of resistance from the Kazakh state.
They really are allowing this shit to happen without fighting.

Socialism starting the year with a deep L.

 No.490541

>>490539
it's socdem at best

 No.490543

Fuck turkicoids

 No.490545

File: 1641406498392.mp4 (5.98 MB, 480x480, video0 (2).mp4)


 No.490546

>>490539
What socialism? Is Russia also socialist in your opinion?
>>490541
Not even that.

 No.490548

Hopefully Russia can use this opportunity to reclaim its illegally stolen territory.

 No.490550

>>490394
Ah. So it’s a similar construction in both languages.

Thank you based Baltic Anon.

 No.490552

>>490546
Neither Kazakhstan nor Russia are socialist of course, but a more Nato-inclined Kazakhstan is a huge blow to multipolarity and a boon to the Us Empire, thus is a L for socialism.

 No.490555

>>490552
There's zero indication so far of Kazakhstan becoming "Nato-inclined" over this, what are you talking about

 No.490557

>>490521
It's a banana republic

 No.490559

>>490555
According to anons in the thread,protestors are spouting liberal bullshit like "we want to be like Denmark and Sweden", and on Twitter some "protestors demands" list are circulating which are pure Maidan-tier cringe.
Ofc one could argue that similar things took place even when in France Yellow Vests started protesting, so one should not take for granted that the protestors glow.
Its a concrete possibility though.

 No.490562

Seems to me a nationalist movement. Ousting a NATO puppet is not bad at all.

 No.490564

I'm waiting for at least the Syomin takes to drop before speculating.

 No.490566

>>490559
If they're leaving US and NATO embassies alone, they're probably glowing.

 No.490567

>>490555
Why does it matter if they're NATO or not?

 No.490568

>>490567
Just look at the map.

 No.490569

>>490566
Yeah this is also a tell tbh.

 No.490570

>>490566
>protests sabout gas prices
<OMG WHY AREN'T THEY ATTACKING US EMABASSY???

 No.490571

>>490559
It's a spontaneous unorganized uprising in a country where the communists were thoroughly purged, of course their demands are shit, they have little idea what to do with this.
Unlike Maidan and the likes they're not supporting specific pro-nato politicians or anything of the sort so far.

>>490566
Why would they attack US embassies if they don't see it as a source of their problems?

 No.490572

>>490571
Anon I understand your reasoning but i see it as too naive.
After all these years I learned that if a protest has no explicitly socialist/anti imperialist goals chance is that it's a glow up.
That said I would LOVE to be proven wrong.

 No.490573

>>490571
> Why would they attack US embassies if they don't see it as a source of their problems?
Their intelligence agency isn’t the source of their problems. Yet they attacked it.

 No.490574

>>490559
The protest demands are glowie shit invented to muddy the waters: the fact they care so much about Ukraine is obviously that they weren't written by Kazakhs.

 No.490575

File: 1641409139808.jpg (165.63 KB, 1280x719, (you).jpg)

>>489791
>The only “revolutions” these days are the ones with CIA backing

 No.490576

File: 1641409181135-0.png (10.54 KB, 317x133, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 1641409181135-1.png (15.2 KB, 431x154, ClipboardImage.png)

>>490212
wtf based trots

 No.490577

File: 1641409187069.jpg (23.2 KB, 552x640, methposting.jpg)

>>490573
because they might see the intelligence agency as an oppressive instrument of the state, and a foreign embasy not so much. they're not a fucking hive mind.

 No.490578

>>490574
>what is glowies attempting to take over mass unrest
Motherfucker there is almost always popular unrest for some reason or another before glowies swoop in

 No.490579

>>490578
A dude in Kiev DM'ing Nexta to put out some bullshit does not a revolution change.

 No.490580

>>490579
Exactly

 No.490581

>>490576
My sides

 No.490582

>>490576
Ok confirmed glow

 No.490583


 No.490584

we're being very quick here to squawk about GLOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWW, but can we get some actual facts in, as oppsoed to screenshots of a fucking wikipedia article and then pointing fingers,

 No.490585

>>490584
Ignore the few vocal retards, most people here are nuanced and rational and you are not showing them respect

 No.490586

>>490584
People calling it glow are guessing. Only source itt that has actual Kazakh communists writing about it rejects the theory it's a glow op

 No.490587

File: 1641410204704.png (1.01 MB, 697x3266, 534583498590345.png)

Article shared by Katya Kazbek who I consider reliable.

 No.490588

>>490587
This says that the people on the streets are proles (mostly), which is good, but it also says that there is no even remotely communist leadership on the horizon.

So it's less pessimist than saying the protests are outright glowed but its not that positive.

 No.490589

>>490588
KKE just released a statement:

>The KKE welcomes the large workers' strike mobilizations and popular protests in Kazakhstan against price increases, unemployment, poverty, impoverishment and the other serious social problems that the capitalist system has caused to millions of people, 30 years after the counterrevolutionary overthrow and the dissolution of the USSR.


>We express our solidarity to the thousands of workers who, defying the state of police and repression, took to the streets demanding the improvement of their living standards, expressing their disagreement to the looting of the country's energy wealth by the monopolies.


>We demand:


>- The release of all demonstrators detained by the police, as well as all political prisoners.


>- The repealing of all the anti-union, anti-worker laws that have outlawed hundreds of workers' unions in recent years in an effort to control the trade unionist movement by the government.


>- The legalization of the Socialist Movement of Kazakhstan and the Communist Party of Kazakhstan, whose activities have been banned by the country's authorities."

https://www.902.gr/eidisi/politiki/282087/hairetizei-tis-megales-ergatikes-kinitopoiiseis-sto-kazakstan

 No.490590


 No.490591

>>490589
<KKE supporting

I usually trust them as one of the best communist parties in Europe, so maybe I was too hasty in my previous judgement.
We shall wait and see, but big doubts still remain.

 No.490592

The comments here seem to be pretty divided. Some are calling them thugs and others are calling them heroes.
https://youtu.be/JBpwFl6tVZo

 No.490593

>protests over gas
petty bourgeois nonsense. whatever

 No.490594

OH GOD OH FUCK

JUST IN - #Kazakhstan's President Tokayev has asked the CSTO security bloc - involving six former Soviet countries including Russia and Belarus - for military assistance to quell the "foreign aggression" to the nation.

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1478805414003331075

 No.490595

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File: 1641411321824-1.png (74.37 KB, 269x541, ClipboardImage.png)


 No.490596

>>490591
It's not a bad impulse to see chaos in the world and start out with… if not exactly seeing the CIA in the shadows (natural impulse)… investigating what the U.S. angle is on the situation. In Belarus that was clear. But in each particular case that has to then be tested with the reality.

I think we've seen this via-a-vis Ethiopia as well. Some anti-imperialists have been claiming the U.S. is backing Tigray. But the favorable coverage of the Tigrayans in U.S. state media didn't come until after the Ethiopian army was routed. And the Ethiopian government is not good – it's very neoliberal. In that case, it seems like the U.S. tilted a bit to Tigray when it started looking like they might come out the winners. But you can quickly get into this unsophisticated crank outlook about it where the CIA plotted the Tigrayan uprising from the beginning.

>>490593
Not sure about that one

 No.490597


 No.490598

>>490595
Fucking ignore wikipedia it is retarded

 No.490599

File: 1641411419864.jpg (36.88 KB, 286x323, 1344542113578.jpg)

>>489841
Please let it be glowieshit, please have Russia and China involve themselves, please ESCALATE INTO WW3. We need to start 2022 off strong.

 No.490600

File: 1641411521021.png (864.58 KB, 640x1136, 463507434_438213.png)

>>490595
Did wikipedia just switch the opposition party from a trotskyist group to a democratic group to make it look like the protests are by democrats? >>490576

 No.490601

>>490594
Case closed folks! The anti-imperialist saviour Putin shall stop this colour revolution by the CIA! Nothing to see here, move along! What? Compadore bourgoise? Never heard of it. What? Gazprom? Nah, they are based wholesome 100 totally state owned firm guys!
What I trully fucking hate is that now every single retarded western RT watcher fuckhead will be screeching based based based over Kazachis getting murdered, just because, pretty obviously, the West will use this free propaganda boon to show the simple truth of how shitty Russia is

 No.490602

>>490593
>Energy and food prices dont affect working class
Idiot

 No.490603

Kagarlitsky reporting

 No.490604

You know, maybe we are in for our first genuine clusterfuck in a good while.

Liek western glowop, russian glowop, oligarch vs oligarch, worker vs. petty bouj, China v. Rus v. Euro v. Us, etc.

 No.490605

>Armenia begins consultations with the heads of the CSTO countries on Kazakhstan's request for the assistance - Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan.

It's getting so fast.

 No.490606

>>490593
>protests over gas
<petty bourgeois nonsense. whatever
yeah, living without heating and freezing to death is what true proletarians do

 No.490607

https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1478801544665522186

Almaty airport with that Half-Life 2 vibe rn.

>>490604
Starting to believe that there's a possibility things could develop that way.

 No.490608

>>490598
It's decent to see the glowuyghur consensus in things

 No.490609

>>490600
This Ablyazov guy isn't even in the country, he fled it a while ago

 No.490610

>>490603
For those that don't speak Russian, he is saying that the protesters aren't Moscow Hipsters but the working class, and that this is a real revolution for an improvement of their material conditions.

 No.490611

>>490595
Look how huge his head is.

 No.490612

File: 1641411936611.png (63.9 KB, 482x636, 4358903485904380534.png)


 No.490613

>>490610
>we want to be like Denmark and Sweden!

 No.490614

File: 1641411960191.mp4 (918.11 KB, 440x780, BhgpUCMAUR9YGBmf.mp4)

>NNNOOOOOO!!!11!! MY HECKIN BANKARIONS STOP LOOOTING!!!!

 No.490615

>>490613
Don't we all anon?

 No.490616

>>490607

I will admit its a bit early to tell, but the speed of escalation does suggest it may not end up a pure nothingburger or cuckdan.

 No.490617

>>490614
Borat Lives Matter in action.

 No.490618

>>490613
so what
when you live in Kazakhstan fucking Denmark must look like a paradise

 No.490619

>>490613
I mean, the only way for a central asian republic to get the kind of standard of living like Sweden for regular people at this point is dictatorship of the proletariat.

 No.490620

>>490616
Tbh I am kind of getting a Tahrir square wibe. It seem pretty unorganized and spontanious, which isn't a good thing.

 No.490621

>>490619
I only hope they come to that conclusion. doubt it though.

 No.490622

File: 1641412206494.gif (991.31 KB, 500x281, 1417100035405.gif)

>>490610
>>490612
Glow op confirmed, thanks.

 No.490623

>>490620
Vhat do you mean bro??? : )

 No.490624

>>490612
> We know "unorganized"/"leaderless" pretests don't exist.
Is this guy retarded?

 No.490625

>>490602
they don't, not in any outsized way at least

 No.490626

>>490622
a retard take from a tank. shocking.

 No.490627

>>490620

Could be… That leans more towards nothingburger+.

The thing is a bit different now though is that in the last few years various theoretically more or less serious marxists groups have grown in Russia, both online and off (Syomin, Zhukov, Yulin, Rudoy, Kagarlitsky, Buzgalin, etc. to name some online examples)

This definitely has weighed on all FSU countries.

 No.490628

>>490622
Tbh we should wait, like >>490620 said this is far more Tahrir Square than Maidan. Most young people with internet access's first impulse during spontaneous protests is "freedom and democracy" - give it some time because between this and Ethiopia the glowies are scrambling to figure out a plan

 No.490629

>>490625
t. privileged westernoid

 No.490630

>>490622
How do you read what i posoted and get that??

 No.490631

>>490629
westerners love complaining about gas and food prices more than anyone lol

 No.490632

File: 1641412628934.jpg (9.1 KB, 300x217, kill.jpg)

>>490625
how can you possibly believe this

 No.490633

>>490625
yeah bro, I'm so busy hitting a piece of metal with a big hammer every day I have no time to care about frivolous bourgeois things like "food prices"

 No.490634


 No.490635

File: 1641412803510.png (254.53 KB, 557x809, ClipboardImage.png)


 No.490636

File: 1641412862435.jpg (23.18 KB, 326x239, It begins.jpg)


 No.490637

File: 1641412882956.mp4 (2.29 MB, 480x848, TUA6MUhVvElO3qrE.mp4)

https://twitter.com/aldin_ww/status/1478812390800203778
>Protesters taking weapons from National Security Committee (equivalent to Russian FSB) building after taking it over earlier today in Almaty.

 No.490638

>>490635
>Russian troops could enter Kazakhstan

The USSR 2 guy on Twitter warned us all…

 No.490639

>>490627
To be honest, if I had even a tinyest shred of optimism and suspension of disbelief in me, I would hope that the best case scenario for this would be a spontanious (as much as I dislike spontanious revolutions in theory) revolution across all of the CSTO. Putin? Gone. Lukashenka? Gone. All the shitty corrupt and murderous "autonomous" region governments like in Chechnya? Gone. All overthrown by a mass of pissed of people WHO ARE MAD AS HELL AND WON'T TAKE IT ANYMORE. Would it benefit the US? Sure, but US is already a dying beast and this won't suddenly jolt it back to life somehow. However it sure would be one grand spectacle that might change peoples minds globally and show them that THEY HAVE THE FUCKING POWER TO DO SHIT.

 No.490640

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 No.490641

>>490635
>Broke: Its a CIA color revolution
>Woke: Its a proletarian uprising
>Bespoke: Putin organized it so he can have Kazakhstan annexed outright

 No.490642

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 No.490643

>>490641
<Ascended: When all the ex USSR countries will be reunited Lenin will wake up.

 No.490644

>>490643
C’mon, how about having a new Lenin instead of fantasizing that magic will happen and that he’ll wake up.

 No.490645

>Unmarked vehicles delivering weapons to rioters in Kazakhstan

https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1478817322626387969

 No.490646

>>490644 (me)
Sometimes I feel like people here are stuck in the past.

 No.490647

File: 1641413222568.gif (1.2 MB, 498x292, sum_xplainin.gif)

>Twitter tankies, Dengoids, burger post-lefts and other hyperonline scum regurgitating the RT narative and explaining how a Russian invasion of Kazakhstan and murder of civilians trying to overthrow their government is actually counter-terrorism and based anti-imperialism
>Circa 1 week from now

 No.490648

>>490644
Why not both?
Take the cosmism pill anon

 No.490649

>>490639
I want to believe

 No.490650

File: 1641413270713.png (391.12 KB, 471x457, ClipboardImage.png)

>>490576
Finally: Trotskyist revolution

 No.490651

>>490645
peace was never an option

 No.490652

>>490647
I do not care for the plight of the people in ex-communist countries.

t. born in the USSR

 No.490653

>>490647
In our favour most here called them retarded

 No.490654

theres no way to know the true nature of these protests yet, but the KKE is endorsing them and wikipedia is altering the article to make it seem like the protests are for democracy. in my mind, i interpret this as the west attempting to make the protests look like liberals which is coincidentally what the russian glows want to do too. a lot of the demands floating around online seem to be pro-democracy but it remains to be seen whether that's shilling or if it's what people on the ground want. what's more, the kazakh government is friendly with both the eu, the west and russia/china alike. the balancing act of it all makes it a gamble. it really depends on whether the left seizes this opportunity to pull the protests to the left rather than demeaning it as a pure CIA op

 No.490655

>>490645
larouchite CIAuyghurs have arrived in the grandest show of political manoeuvring since the molotove ribbentrop pact to deliver hands directly the workers of the CSTO to instigate the new red terror in the east

 No.490656

>>490601
Based
Critical support for global capitalist hegemony in their struggle against crybabies wanting sovereignty

 No.490657

It is happening. The only way the American imperialists could win is by aiding the communists to power in Eurasia.

 No.490658

IT'S A CIA OP, I READ IT IN RT

 No.490659

>>490601
and now watch as twitter tankies actually say this stuff unironically

 No.490660

>>490647
I love making things up in my head and then proceed to get mad at them.

 No.490661

>>490659
go to their houses in the night and beat then to death with hammers

 No.490662

>>490654
Which Central Asian country had a politician caught on tape promising to sell out the country after organizing a" Maidan".

 No.490663

Turanic Juche now is the fucking moment

 No.490664

>>490661
i'd rather do that to jordan peterson stans tbh

 No.490665

File: 1641413819499.png (187.06 KB, 2066x2260, kittygrin.png)

>>490657
The best part about this is that even if it being a glowop was true, the west cannot project any power in Central Asia, meaning they cannot squeeze a pro-west leader into power and a Socialist Kazakhstan is actually very likely.

 No.490666

>>490665
>very likely
explain

 No.490667

>>490654
You would have to be a complete fool to be a communist and go "ewe icky probably a ciaop, bls based eurasian putin bring back law and order protestors are cia"

 No.490668

>>675679
Kazakh commies are fucking dead lol.
The only way this could happen if the workers educate themselves in Marxism overnight and build a revolutionary party instantly (so not at all).
This gonna end in a massacre and maybe gas prices kept fixed.

 No.490669

>>490665
If Russia is moving troops in, that idea is already dead, bucko. US can, however, use this as a distraction to "liberate" Crimea.

 No.490670

>>490665
listen up DNC psychos I will strangle Russian ogliarch babys with my bare hands to erase their geopolitical blood crimes as long as you send me weapons and muntions

 No.490671

I don't see this turning out good

 No.490672

>>490652
Хоть я простой иностранец, мне необходимо вас спросить, вы что? Верите, что власти дают народу навязывать им свою волю? Или что, Союзу ли предали другие республики, а не Горбачев?

 No.490673

>Posts flowing like one per minute
>Climate of tension all over, no one knows what will happen next
>Memes could soon follow suit

Finally some peak leftypol experience after months of nothingburgers

 No.490674

>>490664
do both

 No.490675

File: 1641414076377.jpg (75.24 KB, 665x900, 007.jpg)


 No.490676

Tbh if Russia sends in troops, this could cause a huge backlash. For Ukraine Moscow had to do a fucktonne of consent manufacture, if they send in people like is being claimed, that could be a leverage.

 No.490677

>>490675
I don't trust anyone on this topic, but there are some weird things going on like the unmarked vehicles giving out weapons

 No.490678

>>490675
>nooooooooooooo the KPD are entente agents D:

 No.490679

>>490675
porky vs porky glowup
Many such cases!

 No.490680

>>490663
>Turanic Juche now is the fucking moment

 No.490681

>>490677
who cares. don't ask questions. just take guns you cuck

 No.490682


 No.490683

>>490673
I <3 spectacle

 No.490684

>>490675
Pepe Escobar is a vulgar and very pro-Putin campist with idiotic views on economics whose geopolitical analysis is usually okay so could be true or maybe not

 No.490685

I can't wait for WWIII to happen so that the kazakh trots can bring us communism.

 No.490686

>>489895
holy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

 No.490687

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLF7Fl4SXh8
HHUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

 No.490688


>>490683
Yes, and I'm tired to pretend i do not.

 No.490689

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 No.490690

>>490688
me too thanks

 No.490691

>>490677
Hour ago
>rioters storming and looting arms storage
Now
>some dudes in a car giving arms away
Surely that's outside influence and not the same people.

>unmarked vehicles

So you would consider it legit if the dude didn't
think to remove the number plate and got himself in deep shit?

 No.490692

>>490691
good point

 No.490693

Russia's intervention in this is a good example of imperialism as Lenin defines it. Russia didn't do shit when asked to intervene for Armenia during the 2020 war because it's interests align with oil rich Azerbaijan. But when Russian interests are threatened in Kazakhstan their quick to go in.
I hope my fellow ML learn form this and stop engaging in vulgar anti-imperialism.

 No.490694

>>490691
you do realize that it's possible to steal cars?

 No.490695

>>490691
the reason that is weird is because they had no flag or any apparent affiliation with any cause or belief. Making it seem like they are just a neutral party giving out weapons that is a foreign entity.

 No.490696

>>490677
>I don't trust anyone on this topic
I trust Pepe. He's a proper anti-imp journalist and covers geopolitics since ages.

 No.490697

>>490693
This is correct

 No.490698


 No.490699

>>489758
>Omsk is right on the border with Kazakhstan
<Russian troops could enter from there

Black League confirmed real

 No.490700

>>490695
Yeah they should've gotten a contract with the local flag producing factory for some dope new designs. Are you 12? Lel

 No.490701

>>490694
>He forgot the name
Nice impostor

 No.490702

SPECIAL FORCES ENTERED ALMATY HEAVY MACHINEGUNS CAN BE HEARD

https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1478826281739427842

 No.490703

File: 1641414858898.jpg (39.04 KB, 500x376, 1427746718929.jpg)

>>490672
Бедные, несчастные люди. Ни в чем не виноваты.
>Это была вина Ельцина.
>Это была вина Горбачева.
>Это была вина Хрущева.
>Это была вина Союза.

 No.490704

Jannies, cyclical NOW.

 No.490705

>>490603
This fucking guy, how can you be a marxist for 60 years and then say this kinda shit.

 No.490706

>>490700
Ah yes, random people in stripped out vehicles with no apparent affiliation to any interest group coming in your neighborhood giving out weapons is not weird at all and happens all the time.

 No.490707

>>490706
Obviously it's not something that happens every day but you're saying it would be less weird if they had a flag

 No.490708

>>490702
spec ops belonging to whom?

 No.490709

>>490708
Kazakh army most likely.

 No.490710

>>490702
>404'd already
kek

 No.490711

>>490706
If you're handing out weapons to protestors why would you have a license plate on that can be tracked back to you and your family? These guys aren't as sheltered

 No.490712

File: 1641415172763-0.png (10.86 KB, 312x217, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 1641415172763-1.png (23.81 KB, 279x470, ClipboardImage.png)

>founded 2019
>vague ideology
>logo identical to US democratic party
Not good bros

 No.490713

>>490711
Why the fuck would you hand out weapons in the open, without organization?

 No.490714

>>490711
Not license plates, of course, but even an insignia would help clear the air about who’s doing what

 No.490715

>>490712
because there's no such thing as a coincedence

 No.490716

>>490703
Не правда ли? Разъясните, пожалуйста, словно я ребеночек, в чем ошибка?

 No.490717

>>490712
I think it's pretty clear that the west is trying to corrupt and pervert these protests into a democratic liberal movement, while russia is denouncing the protests for being a liberal democratic movement. Meanwhile communists are banned by the kazakh government and apparently have no outlet in protests either. The protests must be joined by communists or else there will be absolutely no chance of communism happening in kazakhstan - if the protestors lose, it'll be putinism, and if the protests are not guided by communists, they will become liberal.

 No.490718

>>490711
You are completely missing the point, which is that they have no organization and are just handing out weapons for no purpose or for any goal. They have no affiliation to any group or ideology, meaning their own reasons are unknown and how they got their weapons ambiguous. How is that not weird or suspicious? Random men in purposefully stripped cars giving out guns to anyone without (allegedly) any apparent personal goals?

 No.490719


 No.490720

>>490718
are you going to start screeching about MUH GLOWIES as well?

 No.490721

>>490720
??????????????????? I literally just asked a question you fucking retard

 No.490722

>>490721
Ignore him. Typical idealist naivety.

 No.490723

>>490712
It's probably a coutout of the US Democratic Party and received money from the DNC-funded and US government-funded National Democratic Institute. This shit glows in the dark.

 No.490724

>>490718
the car was a ploy by glowies to make us think that they are behind the protests

 No.490725

File: 1641415978521.png (323 KB, 466x575, 1556832242914.png)

>>490716
It's simple, humans are intelligent animals, capable of higher reasoning, not mere puppets of material conditions. (i.e. vulgar materialism) And they are responsible for their own decisions and bear the consequences. Blaming everything on individuals (like Hitler) is called "cope".

 No.490726

>>490724
The Glow really works in mysterious ways.

 No.490727

>>490712
In all likelihood those parties are opportunistically trying to head this movement but at this point it's still a chaotic lower class revolt. What's cool is that it shows the true face of the Glowzone and cie more preoccupied in aligning themselves with Russia under the guise of vulgar anti imperialism while communist parties literally support those revolts and at the same time the US called for appeasement.

 No.490728

>>490724
kek, the guns were just humanitarian aid shaped like guns

 No.490729

Seems like it's an organic protest born out of legitimate grievances from the Kazakh people that will go nowhere because the left is dead there and now it's trying to get co-opted by glowies from both sides to further their interests.
i predict the Russia backed Kazakh government will win and at besst they will slightly cut gas prices.

 No.490730

dubs and Xi sends in the PLA to restore proletarian power

 No.490731

>>490727
Those parties are trying to head the movement by posting on the internet when the internet is down

 No.490732

>>490729

I wouldn't say its dead. The democratic socialists of Kazakhstan are one of the "leaders" of the protests.

 No.490733

>>490729
don't worry, if the glowies come from both sides they'll cancel each other out

 No.490734

File: 1641416368056.png (73.53 KB, 271x313, ClipboardImage.png)

Happening indeed.

 No.490735

File: 1641416392689.mp4 (6.38 MB, 640x360, 1639275584590-0.mp4)

>>490730
rollin

 No.490736

>>490725
>Men make history but not of their own accord
What does hitler even have to do with this

 No.490737

>>490718
Same thing happened in Albania '97, people distribute guns they stole to prevent themselves from getting in trouble for taking them in the first place. If the protests die down, it'll be more difficult to track down the thieves and persecute them. The situation's much less complicated than you're making it out to be.

 No.490738

>>490732
>democratic socialists of Kazakhstan
That's a good joke

 No.490739

>>490730
not happening

 No.490740


 No.490741

>>490736
Someone's coping by blaming Gorbachev.

 No.490742

File: 1641416578881.jpg (11.64 KB, 225x225, 1604505020364.jpg)

>>490739
Nah, its happening buddy.

 No.490743

>>490730
When the fuck has China given a single iota of a shit about exporting socialism?

 No.490744

>>490739
Wait what

What happens now

 No.490745


>>490743
Never in the last 40 years.

 No.490746

>>490744
nothing, move on

 No.490747

>>490729
>Seems like it's an organic protest born out of legitimate grievances from the Kazakh people
lol It's like a textbook coup d' etat from the beginning, color revolution glowies didn't even fuck around with lenghty "peaceful protests" this time, there was absolutely nothing happening in Kazakhstan just 1 week ago. Now it's 3 days into riots and they're already tearing down statues, looting and storming government buildings. It seems /leftypol/ consists mostly either of zoomers who haven't followed world news for longer than 10 years or glowies these days

 No.490748

>>490742
nothing is happening, move along

 No.490749

>>490747
t. guy who also didn't follow Kazakh politics until 3 days ago

 No.490750

>>490749
Who did?

 No.490751

>>490749
Were there pissful prodesds before the breaking into government buildings started?

 No.490752

>>490731
It just shows how they're disconnected from the ground and trying to get legitimacy trough international support. If those protests keep going we'll see groups organically emerging from this mess
>>490747
There are revolts every year in Kazakhstan you imbecile, people are mad since capitalists took power and at their crook leader who stayed in power 30 years with the help of his porky friends

 No.490753

>>490738

nvm, its a trostkyist mask off socialist organization

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Movement_of_Kazakhstan

 No.490754

>>490747
We'll see anon. Speculation is useless at this point, cause guns have started speaking.
I agree that there's a significative probability of glow involvement but the KKE endorsement got me a bit perplexed overall.

 No.490755

>>490744
Something, stay

 No.490756

>>490741
Gorbachov was just the final manifestation of problems that existed in planned commodity production that occurred since the Kosygin Reforms and other Khrushchev Policy. Khrushchev in turn came to power and was enable to enact his autism through stalinist purges and greater consolidation of power in the bureaucracy and other organs of the state. There were structural factors at play here, but it’s not like the people just wanted the unions dissolved and free-market capitalism to reappear.

Fuck, wouldn’t it be in your self interest for communist, proletarian governments to establish socialist states within the republics? I don’t understand how you can be so dismissive.

 No.490757

>>490753
trotskyists are often very based you know

 No.490758

>>490757
Made me reply.

 No.490759

>>490757
Only when coping

 No.490760

>>490757
cringe

 No.490761

>>490754
Wait, what the fuck does Greeze have to do with Kazakhstan?

 No.490762

>>490753
>trotskyite organization
>immediately mentions newspaper

 No.490763

>>490706
There are vids of protestors raiding arsenals, the weapons could come from there

 No.490764

>>490757
Cringe

>>490761
KKE is a very active party internationally, probably the most active in Europe.

 No.490765

>>675853
Leftypol is 90% tankies

 No.490766

>>675853
Go back

 No.490767

File: 1641417191517.png (380.37 KB, 743x733, ClipboardImage.png)

IT ALL MAKES SENSE

 No.490768

>>490735
It's morphin' time

 No.490769

>>675853
>immediate seethe from anprimfag and piratefag
KEK

 No.490770

>>490757
Today's trot is tomorrow's neocon

 No.490771

>>490765
Based if true

 No.490772

>>490758
>>490759
>>490760
>>490764
well show me the stalinist party doing strikes and helping workers in Kazakhstan I'll wait, or maybe they're too busy posting memes on fbi.gov

 No.490773

>>490771
blessed

 No.490774

>>490772
kys, or wait for an icepick to go through your skull

 No.490775

>>490772
>STALINSTALINSTALINSTALINSTALINSTALINSTALINSTALIN
Give it up, Trot. It's been 70 years.

 No.490776

>At the Kazakh security council Ministers DID NOT ASSURE loyalty of police and army units.
They can only rely on special forces.

https://twitter.com/bordoni_russia/status/1478823636895215620

If this is true than this shit could get VERY MUCH out of hand.

 No.490777


 No.490778

>>490776
Kazakh civil war soon

 No.490779

>>490775
>>490777
>>490774
wow the cope is real, keep getting angry and sectarian on internet I'm sure the revolution will come lol, meanwhile stals are irrelevant in Kazakhstan and the only active MLs are trots

 No.490780

>>490776
Hopefully the army sides with the proles. Police can get fucked tho.

 No.490781

File: 1641417510549.jpg (210.93 KB, 1042x1240, Stalin helped india.JPG)

>>490777
Okay through “Stalin Era Purges”. I’m a member of the Stalin did nothing wrong camp because of picrel and a Soviet Union Supporter in general because of what happened in the Bay of Bengal in 1971.

 No.490782

>>490776
Well, just like WW1, the world (also in the middle of obscene wealth inequality, and a Naval Arms Race) will just go from a flashpoint to flashpoint, until some trivial bullshit will set the whole thing off.

 No.490783

>>490776
There is videos of protesters taking soldiers/cops hostage. Not surprised
Today (tomorrow for burgers/western euros) will show if this escalates or dies down

 No.490784

>>490779
>keep getting angry and sectarian on internet
You're the one who started getting all mad and crying STALINIST! at the voices in your head.

 No.490785

File: 1641417581096.png (103.21 KB, 763x768, nCEbV0B.png)

>>490772
Will trots ever stop seething?
>>490783
source?

 No.490786

>>490779
>the only active MLs are trots

 No.490787

>>490781
Stalin did plenty wrong, like playing nice with kulaks, letting them sabotage the economy and leading to famine, and not purging the bureaucracy hard enough, so that when he, and Zhdanov, started to argue for introduction of direct democracy, they swiftly died under suspicious circumstances.

 No.490788

>>490767
>>490783
If things are alerady at the level of taking security members hostage and the control of the repressive forces are maimed.
One can expect this to not die down

One of the turning points in the last big protest in Bolivia and Peru (putting aside the glow or not glow origins question) is that once reached that point the ride just accelerates.

 No.490789

>>675890
>daring to make fun of their precious avatarfags.
Too true. Flagfags, namefags and transhumanists are this board's sacred cows.

 No.490790

>>489854
Whatever the situation is in Kazakhstan The reason for glowies to do glowie revolutions is that glowieshits would otherwise lose their grasp from this world if they didn't. That enemy has to struggle to keep their shit together is only a good sign regarding the state of the empire. If it is indeed glow revolution and it fails, even better.

 No.490791

File: 1641417749391.png (430.71 KB, 720x840, ClipboardImage.png)

>>675890
>Great Reset

 No.490792

>>675890
t. doesnt know protestor demands

 No.490793

>>490787
Raskulachivanie was “playing nice?”

 No.490794

File: 1641417800222.png (15.46 KB, 332x191, ClipboardImage.png)

Can't wikifags make up their minds

 No.490795

>>675897
>They wouldn’t because actual socialists understand that strikes this day and age without the expressed purpose of paralyzing the state to establish socialism are counterrevolutionary
So the russian women's strike of 1917 was counterrevolutionary, got it

 No.490796

>>490794
Comfirmed EU colour revolution?

 No.490797

>>490794
hahaahahahahahah

 No.490798

>>490795
Idpoler becoming socialist in real time.

 No.490799

These protests are great for our cause, honestly. Kazakhstan’s government is authoritarian liberal and Putinist in nature so seeing them replaced with something else is preferable, even if the country becomes western-oriented.

 No.490800

>>490794
Kek
>>490788 (me)
I was pointing to >>490776 instead of the cryptoshit

 No.490801

File: 1641417969002-0.png (66.45 KB, 598x349, kulaks1.png)

File: 1641417969002-1.png (171.9 KB, 1080x693, kulaks2.png)

File: 1641417969002-2.png (267.69 KB, 500x706, kulaks3.png)

>>490793
It came after the kulaks already fucked everything they could, so yes. "Surely the petite-booj will do right by the people" is a bullshit positions.

 No.490802

>>675903
>workers are sheep

 No.490803

>>490799
Bad take.

 No.490804

>>489812
holy shit, I love this movie even more now.

 No.490805

>>490799
Their trade partners are overwhelmingly China and Russia and with the BRI there is no way they become western oriented unless they want to self destruct

 No.490806

>>490789
Not willingly

 No.490807

>>490802
Falsely conscious ones are, yes. It is by design.

 No.490808

File: 1641418106128.jpeg (124.38 KB, 1288x1017, FE3tPFNWUAUnYiu.jpeg)

Even if it doesn't glow it's a pointless revolution. If ur next to Russia and China you are not the master of your own destiny no matter how many governments you overthrow. Whatever comes out the other end is either new boss same as the old boss, or total collapse a la Syria. Retarded protesters.

 No.490809

>>490803
How is it bad? Nazarbayev is an oligarchic Putinist dictator that actively suppresses the workers and jails communist dissidents. I don’t care if the EU or whichever western groups are backing the protesters because getting rid of the current Kazakh government is absolutely vital for the advancement of socialism.

 No.490810

>>675926
ok agent

 No.490811

>>490805
Every country, even China, is inherently western-oriented to a certain extent. You guys seem to not understand the scope of American hegemony. It’s here to stay until it isn’t and that’s a very long way out.

 No.490812

>>490805
<Unless they want to self destruct
Just look at Ukraine

 No.490813

>>490809
Nuke USA first, then you can talk of socialism advancing.

 No.490814

>noooo you must think about the big picture, keep obeying your master and wait for the richest countries to do socialism

 No.490815

>>490809
>absolutely vital for the advancement of socialism
Yeah I'm sure socialism has really advanced under western "democracy"

 No.490816

>>490809
Yeah and the EU is notoriously pro-socialist.

 No.490817

File: 1641418249209.jpg (19.3 KB, 293x212, 1607442127907.jpg)

>>490808
>Retarded protesters.
Yeah blame the people suffering under the shitshow they have very little control over. Brainlet take.

 No.490818

>>490809
Name one instance where a western backed revolution created space for subsequent socialist revolution or election. Just one (1). Pls

 No.490819

>>490801
What are you, some kind of Trot?

 No.490820

>>490818
Vietnam.

 No.490821

>>675926
>Yes, yes it was, cry harder shitlib
uygha those women's protests lead to the bolshevik revolution you can't be this retarded.

 No.490822

>>490819
Some kind, yes.

 No.490823

File: 1641418374928.png (422.82 KB, 738x528, ClipboardImage.png)

ARMENIAN PRIME MINISTER AND HEAD OF CISTO ANNOUNCES A "PEACEKEEPER" FORCE WILL BE SENT

 No.490824

>>490815
It has. You don’t understand what socialism is.
>>490816
The EU is fascist but occasionally they will help out socialist revolutions like the one in Kazakhstan right now.
>>490818
North Korea?

 No.490825

>>490823
Didn't Armenia just lose a war?

 No.490826

File: 1641418420925.gif (5.55 KB, 104x255, Happening level 2.gif)


 No.490827

>>490814
You're gonna get assraped with sanctions, embargoes and invasions the moment your country attempts to do socialism like it has happened time and time before. MTW is a joke and there's a reason why Marx said only fully developed capitalist nations can make the transition to socialism.

 No.490828

>>675950
You don't understand shit lol, you're just an arrogant elitist prick, reminds me of how trotsky talked about peasants

 No.490829

>>490824
>socialist revolutions like the one in Kazakhstan right now.
Dude i never say this but you are fucking glowing so hard right now

 No.490830

God bless the Kazakh workers who are fighting back against Nazarbayev’s brutal dictatorship. The people deserve fair and free elections, free speech and transparency in government. Fuck these Putin shills who think otherwise.

 No.490831

File: 1641418471674.png (468 KB, 960x596, ClipboardImage.png)

>>675950
Stop.

 No.490832

File: 1641418503227.jpg (44.38 KB, 621x626, 1640138049003.jpg)

>>490817
Yes I blame them. Just because the situation is bad does not mean blowing shit up will improve things. In fact we've seen plenty of examples to the contrary - Syria, Libya, Ukraine. All "legitimate grievances" but on the other end is only an even worse situation, by orders of magnitude.

Fuck your romantic visions of protests and liberal revolutions.

 No.490833

>>490827
>fully developed capitalist nations
Which Kazakhstan arguably is

 No.490834

>>490823
Wait, what, already? Are we on 5-speed? This shit is like the Ukraine build up. Except I don't see a brake, like before.

 No.490835

>>490829
The glowies are the ones who actively support Nazarbayev and Putin while claiming to be communists

 No.490836

>>490825
It is a joint CISTO mission, which means russia belarus armenia tajikistan and kyrgyzstan

 No.490837

>>675967
kys, you're not the vanguard, you're just an edgy kid

 No.490838

>>675967
Lenin and Stalin were petite bourgeois and Stalin in particular loved associating with creeps like Beria.

 No.490839

>>490824
>North Korea?
How?

 No.490840

>>675950
>looks down upon poor/working class/masses
>seeks power over lessers
>elitist
>"lemmings" "sheep"
Yep "former" /pol/tard

 No.490841

File: 1641418677396.png (1.38 MB, 1391x783, ClipboardImage.png)


 No.490842

>>490831
>unless he is incorrigible
Lol mao is literally in agreement.

 No.490843

>>490838
Stalin was from a poorfag from a (then) persecuted minority turned choir boy turned bandit. Hardly petty booj.

 No.490844

>>675967
this is bait but there's people ITT that uncounsciously thinks like this

 No.490845

>>490838
>Lenin and Stalin were petite bourgeois
Lmfao. Stalin's parents were former serfs. Lenin came from a serf family.
>loved associating with creeps like Beria
unproven bullshit

 No.490846

>>675967
>>490838
What a pair of retards lmao

 No.490847

>>490824
>>490820
>Vietnam
>DPRK
West literally killed millions in each instance to destroy them, what are you on about? The alliance of convenience against Japan isn't remotely comparable anyway, and revolution in Korea was crushed by the US which is why South Korea exists at all and needed to be invaded.

 No.490848

>>675975
Stalin quite literally warned others in his government to keep their daughters away from Beria. Why do you think that is?
>>490845
Lenin, like Trotsky, came from a rich background. Holy fuck you’re dumb

 No.490849

>>490838
>Stalin pet bouj
Twitter is less retarded than this thread

 No.490850

File: 1641418840473.gif (1.99 MB, 340x223, retarddorothy.gif)


 No.490851

>>675967
>uneducated rabble
You mean the proletariat? Holy shit, LARPers are the worst

 No.490852

I support Kazakhs insurgent for now because they form the historical party, that will change one way or the other, but not yet.

 No.490853

>>490822
Ну, пошел ты нахуй. Неудивительно, значит, как ты снисходит до бывших, а все же реальных социалистических государств. Что именно подают троцкисты социалистическому движению?

 No.490854

>>490846
I suspect it's a /pol/tard trying to stir shit.

 No.490855

>>490848
>Being an impoverished member of the intelligentsia makes you rich
Even then, what about Stalin?

 No.490856

>>675992
Is it bully the jannies hour?

 No.490857

File: 1641419064775.png (248.71 KB, 382x428, 1627568000467.png)

I wasn't sure if the protests glowed, but seeing the velocity and types of posts here has convinced me. It's all so fucking familiar, very similar to the Bolivia operation recently.

 No.490858

>>490848
>Stalin quite literally warned others in his government to keep their daughters away from Beria. Why do you think that is?
The only source for this comes from a known anticommunist propagandist who has made up tons of shit, lol.
>Lenin, like Trotsky, came from a rich background. Holy fuck you’re dumb
Lenin's family from his father's side was a literal serf family. That his father was able to become richer doesn't change this. Learn your history, retard.

 No.490859

>>490846
Agreed, one retarded post with an equally retarded response. Lenin and Stalin would slap the lips off the first guy though.

 No.490860

>>675981
Your attitude and contempt towards the working class is wholly petite bourgeois

 No.490861

>needed to be productive today
>the government of a steppe country decided to blow up
>day wasted

 No.490862

>>675950
>naturally predisposed to being lemming
Please do everyone a favor and throw yourself off the closest building.

 No.490863

>>675997
Bukharin and Trotsky were innocent, actually.
>>490855
Stalin was from a rich family too.
>>490853
Троцкий был социалистичнее Ленина или Сталина, тупица
>>490858
>The only source for this comes from a known anticommunist propagandist who has made up tons of shit, lol.
This is literally false.
>>490858
>Lenin's family from his father's side was a literal serf family. That his father was able to become richer doesn't change this. Learn your history, retard.
His mother was from a rich merchant family.

 No.490864

Trusting any reporters employed or tied to RT on this event related to Russia is the same as trusting radio free Asia when they have a conflict involving the usa

Use your brains and discernment

 No.490865

>>490853
Ideas. And bloodlust. I leave praising of failure and defeat to public relations types.

>boo hoo, Allende got couped

 No.490866

>>490854
Oh hey, trips.

 No.490867

https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1478836552092508161

According to this shooting has stopped in Almaty.

 No.490868

>>490863
Ты че, ебанут? Каковыми богачами были Джугашвили?

 No.490869

File: 1641419328780.jpg (54.29 KB, 650x1000, fat.jpg)

>>675950
lol a communist Ignacius J. Reilly. Really?

₴1000 says you're some fat piece of shit NEET who barely washes himself, and who believes a revolution would somehow propel him, a modern-day superfluous man with no backbone or work ethic, into being relevant.

I bet you've even convinced yourself that posting is the same as organizing work, and that you've never been a member of anything that could reasonably be called a socialist organization.

You're not the worst sort of socialist. Wokes are. You're certainly the most pathetic though.

 No.490870

>>490864
Who am I supposed to trust then? The Washington Post?

 No.490871

File: 1641419383565.jpg (17.43 KB, 225x300, makhno.jpg)

>>490863
>Trotsky were innocent, actually.

 No.490872

>>490868
Дзугаш и Ленин происходили из богатых семей. Тот факт, что вы проводите все свое время за чтением одного источника, не делает его правдой.

 No.490873

>>490871
Trotsky was justified in BTFOing Makhno.

 No.490874

File: 1641419517434.jpg (15.12 KB, 220x294, 220px-Bakunin_Nadar.jpg)

>>67603
APOLOGISE

 No.490875

>>490870
Trust no one and fly to the country to report it to us yourself.

 No.490876

Recap:
>CSTO called in, yet to see in what capacity
>Nazarbayev BTFO
>Violence seems heightened but mostly localized in Almaty
<Police and Army loyalty in question

 No.490877

>>490875
Ok wish me luck

 No.490878

>>490876
Kazakh police and army are fascist pigs of Putinist loyalties. Glory to the protesters! Glory to the revolution!

 No.490879

>>490874
How could you fuck the quoting? Did you type it?

 No.490880


 No.490881

>>490863
>This is literally false.
Stalin phoning about his daughter comes from Montefiore, who popularized all this. You just saw it on Wikipedia and thought if Wikipedia says it, it must be true. That hack doesn't even source half of the shit he says in his book.

 No.490882


 No.490883

>>490878
>fascist pigs of Putinist loyalties. Glory to the protesters! Glory to the revolution!
This reeks of like your second day in leftism.

 No.490884

>>490877
News Anon 4.0

 No.490885

>>490870
You can trust anyone reporting on actions being taken. (usually)

The "why" you can deduce yourself, unless you're bad at historical materialism and geopolitics.

 No.490886

Uh…
So who is based?
Pls I need to pick a side in order to post soyjacks and megachads.

 No.490887

>>490883
this is just old school slogan aesthetics, the trotskyists still talk like that tho

 No.490888

>>490232
This is way too coordinated to be an act of spontaneous uprising, why should regular ass protestors take over an airport? This is most likely a CIA op.

 No.490889

>The CSTO forces in Kazakhstan will be used mainly to ensure the security of facilities and infrastructure, Interfax reported, citing the head of the State Duma committee Kalashnikov.

https://twitter.com/theragex/status/1478846151881338885

 No.490890

>>490888
I mean, what else could they seize?

 No.490891

>>490888
conspiracy theory shit like this is exactly what we don't need

 No.490892

>>490891
>spontaneous and unorganized
>playing the objectives
Pick one, idiot. Have you ever interacted with people? At least when playing vidya?

 No.490893

>>490890
The MoP.

 No.490894


 No.490895

>>490890
>>490893
Technically the Airport have Means of Production.

 No.490896

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>>490873
Right, murdering the workers who held off the whites and who were building communism and willing to work with the reds is a good thing. Of course.
You're more delusional than a liberal.

 No.490897

Mods archive this shit NOW

 No.490898

>>490892
>protestors seize an airport
>HURR DURR GLOWIES
it's a bit of a leap, ain't it?

 No.490899

>>676067
yeah too bad he and lenin were prussian intelligence operatives

 No.490900

>>490896
>Makhno
>Willing to work with the reds
HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

 No.490901

>>490872
Подавай-ка,

 No.490902

>>490900
>I haven't read any history, I get my politics entirely from memes
He literally met with Lenin in order to coordinate. Holy shit you're one retarded neckbeard.

 No.490903

Lots of derailment in the thread. Can we pls try and stay on topic?

 No.490904

>He literally met with Lenin in order to coordinate.
At first but then they proceeded to block bolshevik supply lines and act as bandits.
>anarkiddie calling anyone a neckbeard
kkkkkkkkkkkkk.

 No.490905

>>676079
>>676079
>>676079
>>676079
>>676079
New

 No.490906

Moved to >>>/leftypol_archive/488268.


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