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 No.503938[View All]

HOT AND FRESH US SANCTIONS EDITION

Let's mantain the civil discussion we were having in the last thread.
Last thread got full.

Sizzle or Sizzle - you decide.

TO WATCH FOR NEWS: https://liveuamap.com/
Live updates from Texan commie boomer in Donbass: https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTexac
For Russiabros, analysis from Boris Rozhin:
https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/ (has a telegram, lots of cool stuff there too)

QRD
"Modern Ukraine was completely created by Russia," Putin says in speech to the nation“
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1495832687227068422

Putin: "We are ready to show you what true de-Communization means to Ukraine."“
https://twitter.com/markmackinnon/status/1495833069676335104

“PUTIN SAYS UKRAINE'S ADMISSION TO NATO IS A DIRECT THREAT TO RUSSIA'S SECURITY || NATO TRAINING CENTRES ESTABLISHED IN UKRAINE AMOUNT TO NATO MILITARY BASES“
https://twitter.com/FirstSquawk/status/1495840775082737664

Putin says Ukraine is a "U.S. colony" with a "puppet regime"
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1495840971208429568

“Russia claims Ukraine invaded Russia and says 5 Ukrainian soldiers were killed and two APCs destroyed near Rostov.
https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1495745864320831492

Putin, in televised address on Ukraine crisis, talks about a "nationalistic virus" says 1991 collapse of Soviet Union saw Russia robbed
https://twitter.com/phildstewart/status/1495834881028411393

“Putin: "Why did we have to transfer the rights to the territories that had been part of the Russian Empire?"“
https://twitter.com/markmackinnon/status/1495832267687669763

PUTIN SPEECH WAS PRERECORDED:
https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1495775697121517570

Russia & Syria officially recognize LNR and DPR
https://mobile.twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1495845600834822147

Syria recognizing LNR/DPR
https://twitter.com/the_ragex/status/1495847706555781123

Venezuela, Cuba, and Nicaragua likely to recognize the Donetsk and Lugansk republics shortly
https://twitter.com/the_ragex/status/1495850619487371265

Putin Calls For Ukraine To Break Apart
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/russian-president-putin-ukraine-break-apart_n_6213d491e4b0ef74d724b3a0

"President Biden will soon issue an Executive Order that will prohibit new investment, trade, and financing by U.S. persons to, from, or in the so-called DNR and LNR regions of Ukraine," Jen Psaki says following recognition by Putin of regions as "independent."
https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1495858379243282434

>EU leadership @vonderleyen & @eucopresident say that bloc will react with sanctions "against those involved in this illegal act" of recognising Donetsk and Luhansk.
>Suggests individual, targeted sanctions: not the big ol' war package that everyone has been talking up for weeks.

https://twitter.com/HenryJFoy/status/1495853591764082700

Communist Party of Russia has just endorsed Putin's call to recognise the DNR and LNR.

Zyuganov: "Look how zealous the Americans and British are now. They forced Ukraine to send almost all its troops to the Donetsk-Luhansk region. More than 100k in a patch of 40-50km."
https://twitter.com/pawelwargan/status/1495857447973572610

ACTIVE STREAMS (at time of thread first posted)

HappeningsviaKlash
RT STREAM

https://tv.leftypol.org/r/HappeningsviaKlash

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https://tv.leftypol.org/r/bloodcast
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 No.504497

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Putin recognizes Donetsk and Luhansk???!
https://www.dw.com/en/russia-recognizes-independence-of-ukraine-separatist-regions/a-60861963

 No.504498

>>504494
revolutionary defeatism

 No.504499

>>504494
Neither, both governments suck shit.

 No.504500

>>504494
Someone who would be labelled as ultra: No one, class war is the only war
A happening enjoyer with a multipolar approach: Russia as an antifascist front
A liberal with NATOworms: Ukrop

 No.504501

Russia is moving into donbass and luhansk rn

 No.504502

I want to see if Tulsi Gabbard will make any new comments on Russia after they recognized the republics

I think this will be her line in the sand where she chills out and goes to bland rhetoric not being specific and won't mention it. Let's see

 No.504503

File: 1645507536369.jpg (256.92 KB, 1080x954, IMG_20220222_132509.jpg)

https://m.dw.com/en/putin-orders-russian-troops-into-eastern-ukraine-separatist-regions/a-60866119

 No.504504

File: 1645507681234.png (428.29 KB, 1216x1258, Malorussia (Little Russia ….png)


 No.504505

>>504494
I think that specific things can happen only if a specific side wins; that doesn't mean I 'support' that side.

 No.504506

>>504504
lol

 No.504507

>>504400
The US has introduced this terminology called "revisionism" (not the maoist kind) which means this strange doublespeak. Being a revisionist means making the world "turned back" to a period before the US ended history with global, liberal American hegemony.

 No.504508

>>504445
He was running off pure ideology and getting honeydicked by Thatcher and Reagan, I guess.

 No.504509

>>504430
Based Post Comrade! Any real Communist knows Putin is a Fascist Vlasovite who helped destroy the USSR.

>>504435
Great Russian Chauvinists waving the Vlasov Banner. A century ago these people would have been fighting in the White Army to defend “Muh holy Russia”, 😂.

 No.504510

>>504494
>>504495
the right question should do we support the fizzle- or sizzlegang or which is the proletarian choice.

 No.504511

CNN doing a story about how Ukrainian businesses are suffering.
Oh no the poor babies how will the bourgeoisie survive these trying times, they'll have to starve their slaves even more! :(

 No.504512

>>504511
I imagine there is total disconnect between the war scare whipped up by the US media and Ukrainian economy collapsing because of capital flight and and interests rates rising.

 No.504513

>>504511
I will advance the stupidpol line on this and say that struggling local businesses in the third world is bad for the workers from said countries

 No.504514

>>504475
Here's some polling from 2020, lot of interesting stuff here about their grievances, quality of life, etc.
https://dif.org.ua/en/article/results-of-regional-public-opinion-poll-in-donetsk-and-luhansk-regions

>Another crucial shift in Donbas public opinion is that in both Donetsk and Luhansk regions people became more cautious toward possible compromises for the sake of peace. In in 2018 45% in Donetsk and 47% in Luhansk regions were confident that compromises should be made at any price, in 2020 these figures decreased to 14% and 34% respectively. Today, 50% in Donetsk and 49% in Luhansk regions believe that compromises are necessary but not everything is acceptable. It means that public opinion in Donbas became more compatible with mainstream opinion in Ukraine. However, it is worth mentioning that in the last 14 months more people in Donetsk GCA (27%) began to think that the conflict can only be resolved by force.

>When people were asked about the ways and means of achieving sustainable peace, new regional divisions emerged. Residents of Donetsk GCA tended to choose the ways that were more favorable for Ukraine, such as economic and defence build-up (31%) and increase of sanctions on Russia (23%). On the other hand, majority of Luhansk residents were in favor recognizing legitimacy of DNR/LNR (38%) and yielding to Russian demands which means recognition of DNR/LNR autonomy and annexation of Crimea (15%).

>Opinion poll revealed that while people in Donbas support idea of direct negotiations with DNR/LNR and granting of special status to pro-Russian entities majority of them strongly object to essential elements of such status and key provisions of the Minsk agreements.

>Hypothetical question about deployment of UN peacekeeping forces on the uncontrolled territories of Donbas also showed polarization and difference between Donetsk and Luhansk residents. In Donetsk GCA 53% of respondents supported such idea while 31% rejected it and 16% were undecided. In Luhansk GCA public attitudes are very different: 51% rejected this idea and only 30% supported it with 19% of undecided.

>In Donetsk GCA 60% of respondents said they would prefer complete restoration of pre-war status of the occupied territories and 57% believed it could happen in the nearest future (in 1-5 years). On the other hand, in Luhansk GCA only 40% would prefer pre-war status for reintegrated territories and only 23% believed this could happen soon. Around 46% of Luhansk GCA respondents said that these territories would never return or could return in remote future

There is obviously real pro-Russian/anti-Ukrainian sentiment, whether it's enough to deem legitimacy, I leave that to the reader

 No.504515

>>504492
What's wrong with recognizing the independence of the breakaway republics?

 No.504516

>>504483
Makes sense but funny as hell to see these Republicans simp for Russia because Putin's better at fulfilling their daddy conservative strongman fantasy.

 No.504517

>>504492
explain the issue with recognizing their independence

 No.504518

>>504509
>Great Russian Chauvinists
>To proudly show you are not chauvinistic let some nazi kill you
Well man, guilty as fuck, I am chauvinistic for not letting some nazis kill me.

 No.504519

>>504518
Turns out you can easily find some neo nazi riff raf in pmc such as Wagner who spent quite some time killing civilians all over the world. So it's not like it's black and white

 No.504520

>>504519
whataboutism

 No.504521

Any good OSINT people to follow regarding this?

 No.504522

>>504516
IMO it is more because of the democrats constantly hating on them in an intentionally dumb way that primes republicans for contrarian support to own the libs

 No.504523

>>504519
>Wagner
All wagner thing comes from bellingcat or U.S. think tanks funded by the U.S. government.. Bellingcat surprise surprise they are the retards dismissing the OPCW cover-up on the Douma gas attack

 No.504524

>As a result of Bolshevik policy, Soviet Ukraine arose, which even today can with good reason be called 'Vladimir Ilyich Lenin's Ukraine'. He is its author and architect. This is fully confirmed by archive documents … And now grateful descendants have demolished monuments to Lenin in Ukraine. This is what they call decommunisation. Do you want decommunisation? Well, that suits us just fine. But it is unnecessary, as they say, to stop halfway. We are ready to show you what real decommunisation means for Ukraine.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/extracts-putins-speech-ukraine-2022-02-21/

 No.504525

>>504514
*judge the legitimacy of the protests,
>>504521
Seems like everyone using that term is a CIA applicant

 No.504526

>>504524
The Duginists/Eurasianists/Vlasovites like Putin are still haunted by the spectre of Lenin, LOL.

 No.504527

>>504523
Too bad the independant journalists trying to investigate keep getting murdered then I guess

 No.504528

>>504527
>bellingcat told me so

 No.504529

>>504527
Based, I wish this were true.

 No.504530

>>504528
>>504529
>Noooo you must support my PMC whose CEO was condemned by Soviet authorities for building prostitution rings or you're a US shill

 No.504531

>>504530
Unironically, yes. bellingcat won't tell you any effort of the Russian state to control fascism, nationalism, and their efforts to bring back muslims children abandoned in Syria. bellingcat won't tell you when these guys stopped to have any relationship or background. Yesterday I saw a pst from Donbas saying precisely that already western media started to say that wagner is in Donbas as an excuse from the left to let Donbas get shelled. Fuck you for bringing a CIA shill talking point to get a "nuanced" conversation, because the real nuance would be to point out all those efforts from the Russian state, too.

 No.504532

>>504530
I just want to see more dead journalists. You can take your baseless assumptions elsewhere.

 No.504533

>>504531
<haha yeah fuck ukro-nazis, kill 'em all!!
>nooooooo, you can't use wagner nazis as an excuse to kill teh people of donbass!!!!

 No.504534

>>504533
Except ukraine has them in their military, pmcs=/=part of the government. you retard brainwashed CIA pawn.

 No.504535

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LPR and DPR will be recognized within borders of the Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts

 No.504536

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>>504504
Rosa in theory sounding like Stalin in practice.

 No.504537

>>504521
https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary

 No.504538

>>504430
Excellent post.

 No.504539

File: 1645514528702.jpg (1.5 MB, 2588x3870, PP575.jpg)

>>504536
No, because Stalin was a proletarian internationalist and the Soviet government during his time treated Ukrainians equally, liberated large swathes of Ukrainians from rule of the Polish and Romanian landlords in 1939-1945, and rightly recognised that Ukraine isn't part of Russia.

 No.504540

>>504494
Critical support to DPR/LPR but you don't have any say or input and nobody gives a shit if you stand up for democracy or sovereignty on this issue or whatever while you're in your dark room posting on the internet and jerking off to hentai. Leftist progressives literally have no say in what either side will do and they will do it with or without your consent. Just sit back and enjoy the show.

 No.504541

>>504535
How much of the full oblasts do the current DNR/LNR occupy?

 No.504542

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>>504541
Less than half. And if picrel is correct they are going to push to have borders restored at least over the area of the referendum back in 2014

 No.504543

>>504534
Yes this is why I support Erik Prince in his struggle for Lybian liberation

 No.504544

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 No.504545

>>504524
Well that's… ominous

 No.504546

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>>503971
>Reminder nothing has happened.
Russian military invaded another part of Ukraine yesterday.

>Reminder if you're defending Putin you're an anti-communist fascist
>Reminder that Ukrainian communists need help.
What about russian communists? They support military intervention by putin.

>Reminder that if you're anti-Lenin, you're pro-nazi.
One would think youre a troll but youre active for too long.


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