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 No.522949[Last 50 Posts]

URBAN WARFARE EDITION

TO WATCH FOR NEWS: https://liveuamap.com/ (not always reliable)


LATEST

Ukraine conflict: Fighting rages near Kyiv after Russia invasion
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60513116

Russian forces approaching Kyiv from northeast & east; Ukrainian Prez pleads for help (LIVE UPDATES)
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/newsblogs/russia-ukraine-war-crisis-news-live-vladimir-putin-volodymyr-zelenskyy-latest-updates/liveblog/89813650.cms

Russia attacks Ukraine live updates: Russian forces close on Kyiv (LIVE UPDATES)
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/24/russian-troops-advancing-closer-to-kyiv-us-says-liveblog

Latest updates: Ben Wallace says Russia’s ambition is to invade 'the whole of Ukraine’ but its forces have so far lost around 450 personnel
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/feb/25/uk-politics-live-boris-johnson-russia-invasion-ukraine-latest-updates

Many Are Stranded by the War in Ukraine, From Students to Soccer Players, and Reportedly a Hollywood Name
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/many-are-stranded-by-the-war-in-ukraine-from-students-to-soccer-players-and-reportedly-a-hollywood-name/ar-AAUhRKk


ANALYSIS

Sergey Karaganov: Russia’s new foreign policy, the Putin Doctrine
https://www.rt.com/russia/550271-putin-doctrine-foreign-policy/

Why Biden didn’t negotiate seriously with Putin
https://nonzero.substack.com/p/why-biden-didnt-negotiate-seriously



N.B. to other OPs: refresh the news, don't just copy paste the old OP

N.B. to people screaming "Western sources! reeeeeee!", in times of war like this, you have to get info from wherever you can. it is up to the reader to use critical thinking skills and choose what to believe

 No.522950

1rd

 No.522951


 No.522952

Ukraine more like cuckaine

 No.522953

How do you guys think this is going to end?

 No.522954

>Urban warfare.
>Shows a ship getting hit.

 No.522955

>>522953
Ukraine will fold soon if Russia is knocking on Kyiv

 No.522956

>>522953
If it ends by Sunday, Russia will install its government. If it drags for more than a month, Putin's rule in Russia is over.

 No.522957

>>522953
Finlandization of Ukraine. Maybe Russia will take Novorossiya, but I doubt it's going to annex the whole country.

 No.522958

>>522955
Noice, that means no ww3, right?

 No.522959

Repost Enver Hoxha's predictions as part of our self-reflection on the unfolding of recent events.

 No.522960

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What would he say about this today bros?

 No.522961

>>782147
The only ones who benefit from this are Russian nationalists, Ukrainian neonazis and western interventionists.

 No.522962

>>522960
Both sides are bad, Russia is slightly more but NATO expanding eastward is really bad.

 No.522963


 No.522964

>>522957
I bet you didn't think he was going to invade either

 No.522965

>>522953
Better than it started.

 No.522966

>>522964
I admit I was wrong but annexing Ukraine will create only more problems. Make it into a puppet is much more viable.

 No.522967

>>522953
Exactly the same as before, escalating cold war vibes, but with Ukraine with a right wing Russian puppet instead of NATO. No matter what, the US will declare victory and do the hybrid warfare and sanctions that they were already going to do anyway. And then the US has it's election cycle, a change in turn to the republicans happens and they start antagonizing China via Taiwan and Xinjiang instead.

 No.522968


 No.522969

>>522949
>URBAN WARFARE EDITION
Bloodthirsty OP.

>>522954
Yeah lol.

 No.522970

>>522961
As a Russian I doubt the "Russian nationalists" thing. Supporters of the invasion (even the "moderate nationalists" who tried to look civil but now have gone full mask off) are generally smeared and antiwar agenda has increasing degree of control by the socialists. Still agree on Ukrainian nationalists benefiting from the humiliation/heroic narrative and Western hawks and NATO gaining more authority.

 No.522971

>>522962
>Russia is slightly more
This I don't understand. I can accept both sides are shit but NATO is the worse

 No.522972

>>522966
>annexing Ukraine will create only more problems.
Not for the minimum wage workers who would see their gains almost doubled lol

 No.522973

>>522954
Ships are Pol Pot gang.

 No.522974

>>522971
NATO isn't the one shelling Kyiv right now.

 No.522975

>>522974
They are just using scorched earth, lol

 No.522976

>>522975
The Ukrainian forces are not NATO either

 No.522977

>>522953
everyone becomes gay

 No.522978

>>522962
>>522971
>>522974
If you don't think NATO is just as bad you need to remember what happened since 2014 in Ukraine.

 No.522979

>>522974
uygha we wanna see nato's body count vs russia? Also no shelling but it's their porkies the ones that made ukrainians live like subhumans since the fall of the ussr.

 No.522980

>>522974
NATO is a fart: practically doesn't do anything, but everyone still smells it.

 No.522981

>>522978
But I said NATO is bad

 No.522982

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 No.522983

>>522976
Zelensky is nato puppet


Deal w it

 No.522984

>>522974
No, NATO with their puppet Ukranian government is the one sacrificing the whole of the Ukranian population and infrastructure on the altar of US foreign policy. They could stop at any point, they could have stopped way before, but they chose the bloody path instead.

 No.522985

It seems that Russian ground forces have reached Gostomel airfield in the suburbs of Kiev, connecting with the VDV units which have been fighting there for two days already, and thus blocking Kiev from the west. Per Russian Ministry of Defense.

 No.522986

>>522982
Do they understand the reasons for the success of Afghani insurgencies?

 No.522987

File: 1645798235059.png (423.67 KB, 622x477, Faggot warmongerers.PNG)

So we’re on day 2 of violence
Who won yet

 No.522988

>>522966
Not annexing the Ukraine will make more problems. Why invade the whole country only to go home after replacing the government and taking out the military? Ukraine will remain an unstable sore point on Russia's border. Integrating the country into Russia means it can be rebuilt and cucks the NATO interferers once and for all. Either way, once the Ukranian military is disabled, Russian forces have to occupy Ukranian soil to put down any nazis and opportunists.

 No.522989

>>522982
Imagine cheering this

 No.522990

>>522987
Imperialism won

 No.522991


 No.522992

It's a bit funny that Anonymous, the glowing hacktivist group, are bragging about taking down RT like, thanks, Sputnik News and TASS are infinitely better sources that don't try to give me a fucking migraine.

 No.522993

>>522990
NATO isn't winning AFAICT.

 No.522994

Wtf annoyimoose you used to be cool

 No.522995

>>522992
Anonymous are the most retarded activist "group" in existence, has been that way for a while.

 No.522996

>>522988
Russia most likely won't annex because they have a less than ideally sized force to occupy, but it really depends on how the international situation evolves

 No.522997

File: 1645798528729.mp4 (3.99 MB, 640x360, _Mr5w7eWmf0bTA5w.mp4)

Mark Ames:

>CNN surreal—lionizing Poroshenko, who is charged by Zelensky with treason and has been involved in apparent coup plots against Zelensky (whose own whereabouts now are unknown).


I think Poroshenko has always been "America's guy" in Ukraine.

 No.522998

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Fighting in northern Kiev

 No.522999

>>522998
holy fuck dude

 No.523000

>>522998
Jesus christ

 No.523001

>>522998
>1:32
HOLY FUCK WHAT

 No.523002

>>522998
why is russia so incompetent?

 No.523003

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Atlantic Council glowie pushing the move to dump weapons into Ukraine on CNN

 No.523004

>>522997
>CNN
That reminds me, anyone got the video of that CNN reporter that shows Russian troops at the airport in Kiev and talks about how he talked with the Russian commander, as I forgot to save that video

 No.523005

>>522986
No it's another instance of burgers flailing in the dark. Clearly politicians don't read what their military advisors write anymore and they think money and guns can solve anything

 No.523006

>>522998
Fucking hell lads

 No.523007

I hope china wins

 No.523008

>>522998
who tf was driving that tank?

 No.523009

>>523008
it was vladimir, but it wasnt his fault. hed been drinking since 6am, who can you blame?

 No.523010

>>522998
>>523002
I've heard two conflicting explanations:
1. Russians saboteurs dressed in Ukrainian uniforms
2. Ukrainian territorial guard/volkssturm mistaking Ukrainian anti-aircraft unit for Russians

It seems to be leaning towards explanation number 2 atm

 No.523011

>>523003
I've been seeing this dude all over twitter. He's trying so desperately to shoehorn the idea that Ukrainians are being oppressed in the same way that black people are being oppressed in America.

 No.523012

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GHOST OF KIEV IS FAKE

 No.523013

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So anyway, the NATOcucks were reporting about the supposed plans of the Vladimir Putler to exterminate minorities in his Blitzkrieg around Ukraine. How's that going?

Any demographics rounded up yet?

 No.523014

>>523008
my uncle, i'll report him to NATO police station

 No.523015

>>523010
wait, that was a team kill?

 No.523016

So it's pretty much confirmed that Russians are closing in on Kiev right? How are Kiev's defenses? I have a bad feeling it's going to be taken down in just a matter of days.

 No.523017

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It seems like Ukrainians shooting each other is common occurence at the moment, the conscription was a massive mistake.

https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1497213415022071808

 No.523018

>>523013
>the supposed plans of the Vladimir Putler to exterminate minorities
it's true, the nazi minority is being genocided

 No.523019

>>523011
Typical liberal brain.
>bad thing is happening here… just like bad thing happening in my home country
>if two bad things are happening… someone must be the BLACC people and someone else must be the WHITTU
I mean I get where they're coming from with their total lack of perspective and capeshit-tier analysis, but it's still frustrating.

 No.523020

>>523016
I have seen so many conflicting reports about this war to the point I don't know what is going on any more.

 No.523021

it's baffling to me that the government that claims not to be nazis are doing forced conscription 2 days into a war they know they've already lost.
what is the point of that other than to cause mass civilian casualties

 No.523022

>>523017
so that's the civilian casualties we're hearing about?

 No.523023

>>523020
Information warfare at its purest

 No.523024

>>522982
they are trying so hard to make Ukriane european Afghanistan

 No.523025

>>523020
First time war watching, eh? Don't worry, any event usually takes a few days to clear up, fog of war and all that.

 No.523026

>>523023
Meh, better to realize you don't know what's going on that being mislead no?

 No.523027

>>523017
jesus the footage, are those children?

 No.523028

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>>523020
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/24/war-ukraine-kyiv-map-where-has-russia-attacked

This Guardian article seems pretty legit. I don't see anything here that seems like blatant misinformation.

 No.523029

>>523017
The absolute state.

 No.523030

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>>523017
From earlier this month

 No.523031

Most cursed twitterlib take so far might be "Ukraine is the George Floyd of countries".
Anything worse?

 No.523032

For your consideration
The "Volkssturm" initiative of the Ukrainian military was massive mistake and has at its basis a wrong understanding of the german volkssturm which could only work for different reasons
1. Very destinct and recognisable ethinicities fighting each other
2. Very different uniforms
3. Very different military material used
4. Very different recognisable languages spoken by combatants
5. Even at the end of the war clear fighting line
And even then there was still some organisition of the Volkssturm troops not just giving out guns to everyone and letting them go

 No.523033

>>523031
Vladimir Putin is using antifa tactics from Andy Ngo is also up there

 No.523034

>>523002
>>523010
Yeah, looks like it was Ukrainian that ran over that car

https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1497215954576683009

 No.523035

VERY HEAVY FIGHTING IN CHERNIHIV RIGHT NOW

 No.523036

>>523033
>
>The "Volkssturm" initiative of the Ukrainian military was massive mistake and has at its basis a wrong understanding of the german volkssturm which could only work for different reasons
>1. Very destinct and recognisable ethinicities fighting each other
>2. Very different uniforms
>3. Very different military material used
>4. Very different recognisable languages spoken by combatants
>5. Even at the end of the war clear fighting line
>And even then there was still some orga
>>523033
Oh Andy Ngo is still working? I think he was glorified by some far right comic or something.

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 No.523038

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>>522982
Ukrainian nazis crashing a plane into the world trade center when!!! 9/11 2.0. here we come.

 No.523039

>>523032
but, ther german volkssturm also failed?

 No.523040

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 No.523041


 No.523042

>>523037
Let's make this perfectly clear, Vladolf Putler is Voldemort and the ukrainians are Anakin Skywalker fighting against big brother (this is, Voldemort, thus Vladolf Putler).

 No.523043

>>523012
What am I even looking at?

 No.523044

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>>523037
wrong

Donbass is Harry Potter, Russia is Hogwarts and Putin is Dumbledore

 No.523045

>>523015
That's what some sources are saying. Others say it was Russian saboteurs. Frankly I don't know, information warfare is in overdrive. The Strela you see driving over the civilian vehicle is supposed to be Ukrainian.

Ukrainian authorities are handing out ammunition and weapons to random civilians from the back of dump trucks like it's the Battle of Berlin, so friendly fire is a given.

 No.523046

>>523039
Depends on what you think the goal was

 No.523047

>>523017
I'm curious, what footage are they talking abotu?

 No.523048

>>523046
prolly to win the war?

 No.523049

Snape killed Dumbledonbass.

 No.523050

>>523037
THE EMPIRE IN STAR WARS WAS LITERALLY MEANT AS AN ALLEGORY FOR US IMPERIALISM

 No.523051

>>523003
This uygha is the total opposite of Malcolm X. Uncle Tom ass uygha. Buck Broken ass uygha.

 No.523052

>>523010
>>523017
>>523030
insane. this is going to be a bloodbath, wtf is the ukrainian military thinking? just surrender and spare yourselves the pointless massacres and friendly fire

 No.523053

>>523048
At that point winning the war was not possible

 No.523054

>>523052
The government are US puppets. They don't care about Ukrainian deaths. If anything they want to make it worse so it's bad PR for Russia and might get them reinstated later as the "rightful" whatever.

 No.523055

>>523050
are you serious? they were clearly space nazis. the imperial officers basically look like german officers in ww2?

 No.523056

This will be a bloodbath

 No.523057

>>522960
>What would he say about this today bros?
America? Imperialist.
EU? Imperialist.
Russia? Imperialist.
China? You better know its imperialist.

 No.523058

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>>523045
>Ukrainian authorities are handing out ammunition and weapons to random civilians from the back of dump trucks like it's the Battle of Berlin
vidrel

 No.523059

>>523053
so what was the point?

 No.523060

>>523010
What volkssturm does to a country

 No.523061


 No.523062

>>523058
Untrained, inexperienced civilians being armed with guns and ammunition whilst misinformation is being spread from both sides.

Is it appropriate for me to have a bad feeling about this?

 No.523063

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>>523037
>>523051
>>523052
I don't like war and don't want to "pick a side" and patsoc dipshits on Twitter play some role in that, but then I see the lunatic liberals and glowies wearing Angela Davis shirts saying that Ukraine is the George Floyd of countries as CIA-funded mobsters and neo-Nazis hand out guns to children to resist the Russian army. That's not a good feel.

>>523041
Putinism is SJWism with nukes is a good one lol

 No.523064

>>523052
>noooooo what about the precious democracino

 No.523065

>>523059
There are different arguments one beeing weakening the man power and infrastrcutre of the eastern parrts of germany making the later soviet occupied cones weaker

 No.523066

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>>523058
History repeats itself. First as a tragedy, then a farce.
>>523037
Why are libs so fucking cringe bros.

 No.523067

>>523055
The aesthetics were inspired by nazis but their behavior was based on the US. The Death Star is the equivalent of a nuke.

 No.523068

>>523063
Who is this Angela Davis ? Is she liberal or conservative ? Is she good or CIA-funded ?

 No.523069

>>523058
Comrades should grab a GEP gun while they're handing them out.

 No.523070

>>523017
How the fuck do you confuse someone wearing ugg boots with Russian military?
>>523047
https://twitter.com/knowjjkom/status/1497206448144723971

 No.523071

>>523068
please say sike

 No.523072

>>523068
Euro /pol/ tourist? Sup my niqqa

 No.523073

>>522998
Thats not a russian tank. Russians have a "Z" written on them. Those are ukrainians killing their own civilians.

 No.523074

>>523058
Kiev commune when?

 No.523075

>>523065
that sounds retarded

 No.523076

You guys think Finland or Baltic states will get eventually involved?

 No.523077

>>523071
>>523072
What did I say wrong ? Not everyone is well-versed in Western topics you know

 No.523078

>>523076
No they dont have the balls

 No.523079

>>523068
Angela Davis is an American communist, influential among black women and activist types, and Davis is good. However, the guy using her image is not good. He is very bad.

 No.523080

>>523077
I support you im german and i never heard of her before i started learning about ami topics

 No.523081

>>523028
Wonder if the Russian troops in Transnistria are ever going to do anything
>>523063
>patsoc dipshits on Twitter
found your problem. In the real world, the liberal narrative is the only one that exists, and you come across as a schizo NEET for equivocating the two worldviews.
I was listening to the CBC on radio 1 yesterday and they were going on about how Putler is creating a new empire, hilarious stuff

 No.523082

>>523076
Finland now has genuine reasons to join NATO, anti-imperialist geopolitical genius Putin won again

 No.523083

>>523079
>>523068
Angela Davis used to be based but has kind of been recuperated at this point. Academia tends to curb people's radicalism.

 No.523084

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 No.523085

>>523082
Finland already refused.

 No.523086

>Zelensky is in a bunker
lmao

https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1497165145004515328

Some cracker even posted a video of Downdalls Hitler rant scene lmao

 No.523087

>>523081
>Transnistria

If nothingburger was a country it would Transnistria

 No.523088

>>523070
>>523084
Fucking Christ…

 No.523089

>>523086
It's gonna be over by tomorrow, if not in a few days isn't it?

 No.523090

>>523081
>found your problem. In the real world, the liberal narrative is the only one that exists, and you come across as a schizo NEET for equivocating the two worldviews.
Yeah, you're 100% right about that. Thanks for putting it into perspective. I was listening to the radio in the car last night and they had the BBC World Service going and it was all about the heroes of Snake Island.

>>523083
Her image has been recuperated. I don't think that's really her fault though. They do the same stuff to Fred Hampton and Huey P. Newton these days.

>>523084
More civilians waxed by Volkssturm?

 No.523091

>>523079
>Angela Davis
I checked on Wikipedia and she is from the CPUSA (did not appear to support Fosder) and follow Herbert Marcuse so not that great to me.
For black liberationist authors I especially like Malcolm X's speech about "who are you".

 No.523092

>>523017
Psychotic retards, just surrender

 No.523093

>>523086
Lol just like my hitler animes

 No.523094

>>523084
Context?

 No.523095


 No.523096

>>523058
Ukrainian authorities be like
>Y'all go ahead and die for blood and soil not me

 No.523097

>>523058
>the only faggots that will come are schizos.
>schizos will start shooting on other civilians because "he is a glowie".
I bet the faggot that talks in the video is a russian that was in some russian prison.
He literally says "defend your country ukraine".

 No.523098

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 No.523099

>>523095
I'v never hold a gun in my life, but how is it possible to fuck up this much?

 No.523100

>>523010
3. Russian saboteurs attacking ukrainian AA behind the enemy lines

what a complete shitshow this turns out to be

 No.523101

>>523058
>go to the truck
>grab a free assault rifle and shotgun
>just go home and keep them
>profit

>>523069
A NON LETHAL TAKEDOWN IS ALWAYS THE MOST SILENT TAKEDOWN!-

 No.523102

>>523098
graphic design is my passion

 No.523103

>>523073
>Thats not a russian tank. Russians have a "Z" written on them
wat

 No.523104

>>523099
I'd just take as many guns and ammo as I can then sell it to other people in Europe from a big ass profit and keep one or two rifles for protection.

 No.523105

>>523098
LOOOOOOOOL this is why I follow the Economist. I don't even read anything they write. I just read the headlines so I can see what the liberals are thinking of right now. It's quite helpful.

 No.523106

>>523099
There are reports of Russian spetsnaz and saboteurs all over the place in Kiev. These guys are jumpy as fuck and have been told that Russian fifth columnists are wearing Ukrainian uniforms.

 No.523107

>>523099
nervous/trigger-happy conscripts might have mistaken the driver's jacket for military fatigues and sprayed the car with bullets

 No.523108

>Putin says he does not expect agreements with the "gang of drug addicts and neo-Nazis, which settled in Kiev and took hostage the entire Ukrainian people"

 No.523109

>>523032
Good post

 No.523110

>>523103
Yes, Russian vehicles have a huge white Z painted on them.

 No.523111

Gang of drug addicts and neo-tsarists, which settled in Moscow and took hostage the entire Russian people

 No.523112

>>523108
He's literally calling them Nazis? Wow weird

 No.523113

>>523065
That might reading too much into it, it was a classic desperate movie akin to the Soviets sending waves of workers and students militia to fend the Germans off in 1941.

 No.523114

>>523110
Zaibatsiu?

 No.523115


 No.523117

>>523112
>weird
it's a decades old soviet propaganda, lol

 No.523118

>>523114
No idea what it means, it's just to distinguish them from ukrops vehicles, which are the same.

 No.523119

>1 day
>"war" is over
Biggest fucking nothingburger of my life, barely even counts as an invasion.

 No.523120

>>523117
Idk mate, they literally keep those Azov guys around

 No.523121


 No.523122

>>523114
Americans in some middle eastern country used to pain huge "V"s on the side of their trucks and shit. It's to differentiate them from enemy trucks.

 No.523123

>PUTIN TO UKRAINIANS: “Do not let Bandera and neo-Nazis use your children, wives and old people as human shields. Take power into your own hands, it looks like it will be easier for us to come to an agreement.”

 No.523124

File: 1645801064950.mp4 (4.01 MB, 904x720, OST.mp4)

>>523079
>However, the guy using her image is not good. He is very bad.
Fuck you, Es Lebe Der DDR Unser Sozialistiches Vaterland

 No.523125

What did I miss in the last 9 hours?

 No.523126

Putler is a deranged madman

 No.523127

>>523125
the entire war practically

 No.523128

Kiev falls tommorow

 No.523129

>>523126
Hello ukrainian, how does it feel to shoot other ukrainians?

 No.523130

>>523124
that anon means the person wearing a shirt with her face on it, who works for the atlantic council and vouches for neo-nazis in ukraine >>523003

 No.523132

>>523125
More bombings of Ukrainian cities, Ukraine started Moscow 1941-style militia

 No.523133

>>523084
>cat carrier on ground
these people were just trying to get to somewhere safe, it's just sad

 No.523134

>>523129

I'm Russian

 No.523135

>>522949
Remember when all the Russian imperialist shills on this site were saying this would never happen and it was all CIA propaganda?

Reminder that online schizo-posting Marxist-Leninists are utter morons and their geopolitical analysis is literally ALWAYS wrong.


UP UKRAINE!

 No.523136

>>523129
Пошёл нахуй, нацистская шлюха

 No.523137

>>523134
Can you substantiate the claim that Putin is "deranged" and a "madman," he seems to be more sane than the clown running Ukraine

 No.523138

>>523135
Geopolitics is complex, who knew

 No.523139

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 No.523140

>>523135
fuck off anglo your time is over the eurasian century starts now

 No.523141

>>523125
Russians will soon have Kiev encircled. Fighting in Kiev suburbs. NATO leaving Ukraine on seen re: emergency NATO membership. U.S. expects Kiev to fall in 96 hours.

 No.523142

>>523098
The Economist is truly the best liberal publication in existence. It's basically the bourgeoisie's independent magazine mouthpiece, particularly the western bourgeoisie.

 No.523143

>>523135
sorry we failed to predict that Putin would be this based

 No.523144

I just can't.. how can you try to emulate fucking Hitler in his last days of all people, and still fail spectacularly at it?! this is bizarre..

 No.523145

File: 1645801355461.jpg (37.98 KB, 300x385, outlaws8.jpg)

>>523131
Death is always awful and war is a tragedy. This soldier could have had a long life had he not listened to his imperialist masters and been a running dog for Russian revanchism.

Death to Putin.

 No.523146

>>523135
>Remember when all the Russian imperialist shills on this site were saying this would never happen and it was all CIA propaganda?
>UP UKRAINE!
Ukraine started it you faggot.

 No.523147

File: 1645801364533.jpg (68.07 KB, 559x684, IMG_0782.JPG)

>>523135
Up yours retard

 No.523149


 No.523150


 No.523151

>>523139
It's over, ukrops are already marching on Moscow.
ANY SECOND NOW.

 No.523152

>>523139
>regimes

 No.523153

>>523145
Smelling extremely liberal in here.

 No.523154

>>523151
Ukies are just waiting for Steiner's counterattack

 No.523156

>>523135
Okay and ? You obviously think the Ukrainian government is angelic and fair.
Wake up. They are not.
Both sides are bad (NATO/America and Russia). Plans within plans. Look closer.

 No.523157

>>523155
it's just American hours

 No.523158

So… Zelenskiy created Narodnoe Opolcheniye. Things are desperate for Ukraine.

 No.523159

NATO is entering Western Ukraine

 No.523160

>>523135
Russia is not conquering ukraine tho.
Russia is just destroying outdated military equipment sent by americans and europeans to ukraine for that sole purpose (i.e. to destroy it for free).
And russia is doing it because the separatists asked them to help them in the war of liberation against the occupied territories of donetsk and lugansk.
No le ebin freedom war for you, sorry.

 No.523161

>>523135
No one thought full invasion would happen, including Russian thinktankers, because invading past the Donbas doesn't seem to get Russia anything

 No.523162


 No.523164

>>523135
What happened on 16th of February?

 No.523165

>>523160
>B-b-b-bro, they're not c-c-conquering Ukraine, what do you mean they're zerg rushing from every direction and heading straight to Kyiv to depose the Ukrainian government?

God you are such a moron that even entertaining the level of delusion of grandeur you have is an assault on my soul (you clearly don't have one because you're an imperialist boot licker).

Putin is going straight to hell. He'll meet George Bush there when both die. Get a grip.

 No.523166

>>523162
Are you Vietnamese by any chance ?

 No.523167

>>523145
I agree that dying for THIS war is lame, which is why I hope no civilians get involved in this crap. I don't care for the Ukrainian military because of the Nazis in it, a good Nazi is a dead Nazi but besides that for the non-Nazi Ukrainian military they should just stop and surrender, this fight really isn't worth dying over, especially civilians.

 No.523168

>>523165
Can you go back to reddit?

 No.523169

File: 1645801655243.png (300.41 KB, 500x400, 1604768228024.png)

>>523135
>Remember when all the Russian imperialist shills on this site were saying this would never happen and it was all CIA propaganda?
Some of these idiots still think that Russia hasn't invaded yet and all this shit is just "peace keeping".

>UP UKRAINE!

Up yours. Fuck the neoliberal order.

 No.523170

>>523134
>>523136
And here's your 0.01 US cents for your contribution to demoralize a nation that formally is not even the aggressor.

 No.523171

So WHY is Putin invading again? What's the consensus analysis?

 No.523172

>>523161
>putting ukraine back under russian influence doenst gain anything for russia
like anon said, your analysis was ass and only rested upon "russia and putin good bc they are against usa and usa bad"

 No.523173

>>523161
Are you-Are you saying that Marx failed to predict this?

 No.523174

>>523173
>he doesn't have the Capital Deluxe Edition that lists every event of the 20th-25th centuries

 No.523175

>>523172
Reminder that all of this was Nato's doing.

 No.523176

>>523171
We are still searching for material explanation, there surely must be one.

 No.523177

>>523139
24 hours of war - protracted war

lmao

 No.523178

File: 1645801767896.jpg (466.28 KB, 1383x992, 9-7-2012 5;14;52 PM.JPG)

>>523161
It seems there are a bunch of moronic western "useful idiots" on here who still somehow think its not a full invasion even though it is.

I get a lot of dumb faggots have to save face on this because for weeks they screeched about how this is just like WMD's and 2003, its all manufacturing consent, only for this to happen and for them to realize its the other way around; it was Russia manufacturing consent and they've been duped by a right wing imperialist oligarchy.

Really, its pathetic. You people are pathetic. Russia has the blood of innocent children on its hands. Death to Moscow. The CORRECT position for Russian Marxists in this scenario is REVOLUTIONARY DEFEATISM. They must wish to lose this imperialist war and hope that this loss inspires malcontent in the Russian public to inspire a deposition of the Putinist right-wing oligarchy.

 No.523179

>>523171
Because read Lenin's imperialism book for more information.
But the closer reason is because (my opinion):
1) Russian Tsar no likely NATO putting missles in his backyard
2) Ukrainian government no likey Donbass et al. region and want to do ethnic cleansing or some shit
3) Ukraine cut off some water supply or dam to Crimea costing unimaginably high money each year

 No.523180

>>523139
Liberals truly are sad.

 No.523181

>>523172
the 'analysis,' which wasn't only mine, was that Putin isn't a bush tier idiot and was only showing off. nice posturing though

 No.523182

File: 1645801946845.png (287.18 KB, 407x586, ClipboardImage.png)

CHINA SANCTIONS RUSSIA HOLY SHIT

 No.523183

>>523171
Keep Ukraine out of NATO, force them to only trade weaponry with Russians. Gotta justify that over-inflated military budget somehow.

And give the rest of their respective oblasts to the separatist republics. It's Military-Industrial Complex with Ethno-Nationalist Characteristics

 No.523184

File: 1645801957138.png (378.09 KB, 645x354, fsYZaUV.png)

>>523178
>The CORRECT position for Russian Marxists in this scenario is REVOLUTIONARY DEFEATISM.
Plot twist outcome: Putin loses the war and patsocs seethe and libs cheer, and there's a revolution in Russia, but communists come to power and BTFOs everyone and leftypol scores a touchdown.

 No.523185

>>523173
RT: Putin calls on Ukraine military to coup the "drug addicts and nazis" currently running kiev government because it's impossible to negotiate with them and he wants to negotiate with the military.

 No.523186

>>523178
>The real communist position is to let Nato encircle russia, and let Ukranian nazis exterminate russian minorities

 No.523187


 No.523188

>>523178
russia isn't the one gangpressing civilians and enlisting children only for them to be shot by other conscripts

 No.523189

>>523170
Ah yes, defending glorious country from evil Poles conducting ethnic cleansing on Germans and even attacking a radio station.

 No.523190

>>523182
Dengist on sucide watch

 No.523191

>>523182
Haz and Caleb on suicide watch

 No.523192

>>523182
this will send leftypol brains into a frenzy

 No.523193

>>523171
Not enough time has passed to actually do a materialist explanation. Even though Marx did write for a paper he wouldn't do a proper thorough look through until months or years after the fact. 18th Brumaire and the Paris Commune were written after it had settled. The dust most certainly has not settled.

 No.523194

>>523183
>>523179
But he didn't have to invade to do all of that. The tensions in the Donbas and increasing European dependence to Russian gas seemed to be enough to destabilize NATO expansion. Isn't it?

 No.523195

>>523182
wait what
i thought china is good

 No.523196

File: 1645802081236.jpg (35.68 KB, 600x347, putin_cry.jpg)

>>523171

Because Putin is an anti-socialist Russian nationalist-revanchist; listen to his speech before the invasion, he thinks Lenin was a mistake and a blunderer, that giving national independence to the SSR's was a mistake, that the death of the Russian Empire was a mistake.

He wants Russia to be a large empire again; he wants to reclaim "rightful" Russian clay in Eastern Europe, the Caucasus, the Baltics.

On top of that, Russia has historically needed a warm water port to conduct trade and naval operations, Crimea was the best option for that, but the problem was there was no overland route to the Crimean Peninsula without taking more land or all of Ukraine.

Russia is invading for economic and nationalistic reasons (imperialism). Only, Putin, in his infinite nationalistic stupidity, has only galvanized and legitimized NATO in the eyes of the world with his actions. He has caused even CHINA to impose sanctions on him, possibly killing the potentiality of a future Chinese-Russian pact.

He has completely screwed himself in his imperialistic stupidity.

 No.523197

>>523182
Okay it might be ogre now.

 No.523198

>>523165
>brooo they are clearly going for the capital, trust me.
>broooo look, they reached lviv
>lviv is right on the other side of russian border with ukraine, but who cares, cuz they are going for kyiv
>oooooh brooooo its the second day and russia didnt reach kyiv yet, bbbbut wait for it, cuz they are coming, any seconds now, i swear it!!! Look at this ukrainian tank investing a ukrainian car!!! >>522998

 No.523199

>>523182
OK, THE MULTIPOLARITY IS HERE, NOW WHAT DO WE DO?

 No.523200

@ASBMilitary
>The defense line of Kherson was broken through by Russians - local authorities

 No.523201

>depose the Ukrainian government
and that's a good thing

 No.523202

>>523194
> The tensions in the Donbas
They were decreasing since 2016, each year had 33-50% decline in casualties.

 No.523203

>>523194
Well Putin is an imperialist and flirts with the far right (far less than the Ukraine side, btw word play is accidental).

 No.523204

>>523182
I can't fucking wait for what Maupin and Haz say. This is gonna be so much fucking fun.

 No.523205

>>523171
>invading
it's self defence

 No.523206

>>523182
China is just being opportunistic here. Russia isn't their friend. They are happy for both the US and Russia to lose.

 No.523207

>>523196
What is revanchist?

 No.523208


 No.523209

>>523178
>Ukrainian troops literally shot themselves and used child soldiers
<It's Rusia's fault

 No.523210

>>523204
lol they probably say its just nothing

 No.523211

File: 1645802241332.jpg (43.78 KB, 828x338, FMYs2WvVcAIdlG9.jpg)

> This may be my curated feed but I don’t see anyone I follow on weibo happy about what’s happened. Even pro-Russians are cutting down on the bombast
> Quite a number of people criticizing the war. Someone cheekily said “what happened to the Marxist Leninist protection of smaller nations?”

 No.523212

>>523207
Reclaiming lost territory

 No.523213

File: 1645802284042.png (459.73 KB, 828x627, a772pa9ssg881.png)

>>523182
I never supported the invasion of Ukraine and I consider it an imperialist, interventionist action by the Russian oligarchs. At the same time, I blame NATO imperialism for causing this, and can only hope the outcome can stabilize this. I also support China and this is the right move and will not bother me at all.

 No.523214

>>523206
China has always denounced imperialism and this kind of military interventionism. This isn't new.

 No.523215

>>782492
I really do believe american news on chinese matters. Also, what the fuck does it have to do with what i wrote?

 No.523216

>>523194
At the speed things were escalating, soon Ukraine would have been able to defend itself and make any Russian demands irrelevant

 No.523218

>>523214
>China
>genuinely denounces imperialism
That's a principal contradiction pal.

 No.523219

Keeping UA out of NATO - everyone understood why they would want that, and there were multiple ways to achieve that.

Full demilitarization of Ukraine? I have no idea why, other than Putler is the mustache-twirling villain that the West makes him out to be (and an idiot.) Strategically, it just doesn't matter as long as they aren't in NATO.

 No.523220

> Putin declared Ukrainian government terrorist because it "forces Russia to bomb apartments"

 No.523221

File: 1645802411145.jpg (5.16 KB, 300x168, CIPS Logo.jpg)

<Removing Russia from SWIFT

what's your opinions on this, taking into account the inevitable crisis it will cause for the more Russia-dependent EU countries, the advancement of de-dollarization/Asian economic integration (picrel) etc.. Iran was already the victim of this "mother of all sanctions" thing but the situation with Russia seems very different and the possible consequences of any outcome here are very interesting..

as socialists / anti-imperialists what's your stance on Swift and the possibility of measures related to it ?

 No.523222

>>523218
can you post a map of chinese military bases across the globe

 No.523224

>>523221
No fucking way, it's gonna kill European country.

 No.523225

>>523213
Great analysis. I too see it that way. I do not agree or support this invasion BUT it was NATOs fault for goading Russia into doing this, it was part of the plan and Russia played into it.

 No.523226

File: 1645802453195.jpg (127.45 KB, 1200x871, IMG_1980.JPG)

>>523182
Lol
>>523214
Tell that to their invasion of Vietnam under the behest of fucking Jimmy Carter.

 No.523227

>>523202
Then why did everyone make a big fuss over Putin recognizing the DPR and LPR?

>>523216
>soon Ukraine would have been able to defend itself and make any Russian demands irrelevant

How?

>>523219
This is what I've been saying.

 No.523228

>>523221
I want them to do it, to dedollarize the world and create the petroyuan

 No.523229

>>523222
Can you read Enver Hoxha's Imperialism and the Revolution and note how many revolutions China had supported since 1976 and how many wars China had waged with its neighbors ?

 No.523230

>>523182
>Yuan-denominated letters of credit are still available.

More like they are trying to circumvent sanctions by US by removing dollar involvement.

Petroyuan in the future?

 No.523231

>>523217
Actions speak louder then words

 No.523232

>>523227
> Then why did everyone make a big fuss over Putin recognizing the DPR and LPR?
Because their claimed territory is different from their actual territory, and they urged Putin to help them capture the former.

 No.523233

>>523207

A revanchist is a type of hyper-nationalist that wants to reclaim land they think rightfully belongs to their nation, more often than not falsely.

Hitler, for instance, was a revanchist because he wanted to reclaim the land Germany lost in WW1 but also wanted to expand past that into what he saw as historical "germanic lands"

 No.523234

According to the Kherson Regional State Administration, Russian forces have broken through and the defenses of the city have fallen.

 No.523235

>>523226
Where the hell did you come from? And China's not doing that shit anymore.

 No.523236

>>522998
I think this is a further off shot of the Strela running over the car. Of course the Russians are getting blamed for it.
https://twitter.com/franakviacorka/status/1497134141627850789

 No.523237

>>523220
Why doesn't US supports anti-terrorist operation against these cunning Pales… Ukrainians?

 No.523238

File: 1645802614415.jpg (52.37 KB, 960x960, rich.jpg)

>>523182
THE WESTERN-CHINESE ALLIANCE REBORN
THE SINO-SOVIET SPLIT REBORN
STANDING ALL IN SOLIDARITY AGAINST MAD CRAZY ROOSHA
CHINESE ECONOMIC DOMINATION OF AUSSIELAND RECOMENCING
NOW

 No.523239

>>523196
I don't want to bully you my friend, but this seems like idealistic analysis. He believes this, he believes that, etc. But I am inclined to agree nationalism and pan-Slavism might play a part. I get that they needed a warm water port but is an invasion and international scrutiny really that worth it? What about all that hype about NS II and Belt and Road, BRICS style cooperation with China?

 No.523240

>>523238
THE GHOST OF NIXON AND MAO RETURN IN OUR TIME OF NEED TO DESTROY THE RUSSIAN IMPERIALIST MENACE

 No.523241

>>523236
>another ukrainian tank going over a civilian car…
The fuck are they trying to accomplish??

 No.523242

>>523182
Is this just to save face and do deals underhand?

 No.523243

>>523196
>Russia is invading for economic and nationalistic reasons (imperialism). Only, Putin, in his infinite nationalistic stupidity, has only galvanized and legitimized NATO in the eyes of the world with his actions.

Yes but it was NATO that forced Russia's hand. Otherwise they'd been happy to posture around the border and remind Ukranoids that joining NATO is not acceptable.

But hey, say that Venezuela, Cuba and Mexico start saying they intend to join the CIS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Independent_States) and want to deploy Russian missile defenses along becoming a general military base for the encirclement and containment of the US… Not only this wouldn't be allowed to happen, if any of those countries tried their luck, especially Cuba, they'd be turned into a smoking ruin by the US army.

And none of those countries have been couped by Russia and replaced by puppet governments, unlike Ukraine, so at least you could make the argument that they speak for themselves, again unlike the Ukranian government.

 No.523245

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 No.523246

>>523239
This isn't an idealistic analysis. This is literally what Putin said in his speech before the invasion. Obviously he didn't phrase it like I did, but these are all things he said;

> Russian Empire good, USSR bad

> Ukraine isn't a real country and belongs to Russia
> Giving independence to ethnicities under the Russian Empire in USSR times was a mistake
> We must reclaim these countries


And the warm water port thing is a well know fact of Russian geopolitics.

 No.523247

>>523226
>Tell that to their invasion of Vietnam under the behest of fucking Jimmy Carter.


when did that happen? was this before or after the american invasion

 No.523248

Russian tank with anime sticker spotted.

 No.523249

>>523182
Are they trying to make Russia shift to trading in Yuan instead of Dollars? Because from the last part, they are keeping Yuan lines of credit open

 No.523250

livestream feeds of kyiv

>>523245
the mad lads

 No.523251

>>523245
All they need to do now is coup Putin and actually establish USSR 2.0

 No.523252

>>523236
>>523245
>>522998
Proof that those are not russian tanks

 No.523253

It's fascinating seeing the way misinformation completely alters public perception in real time - it seems like most of the average westerners genuinely believe Ukraine is winning the war at the moment

 No.523254

>>523240
CHINA (friend of the west) WILL SET THE EXAMPLE PF SOCIALISM WITH CHINESE CHARACTERISTICS AND WESTERN CHARACTERISTICS AND MULTIPOLAR CHARACTERISTICS

 No.523255

Пыня совсем поехал а ну ка быстро переобуваетесь пидоры пока время есть

 No.523256

Putin is no comrade i was flooded i hate myself now

 No.523257

>>523251
>Russian military invades Ukraine and annexes
>turns against Putin, unites proles of Ukraine and Russia and Belarus
>USSR 2 established

 No.523258

>>523245
Soviet Union leading the way!!!

 No.523259

>>523246
>And the warm water port thing is a well know fact of Russian geopolitics.

I know, I know. But what I mean is, is an invasion and international scrutiny really worth it? I mean strategically? Or do we just not know enough?

 No.523260

>>523204
>>523192
>>523191
>>523190
Eternally online "leftists"

 No.523261

>>523256
Hey, don't beat yourself up too bad. Everyone can get duped and propagandized. It happens to the best of us.

Just know that now the best position for Marxists, especially Russian Marxists to take, is revolutionary defeatism; to hope Putin loses and his right wing capitalist oligarchy crumbles under his feet via a popular uprising of Russian people.

RUSSIAN REVOLUTION 2 BOOGALOO

 No.523262

So can we all agree that we have actually finally entered the multipolar era?

 No.523263

>>523204
soyjak_waving_arms.jfif

 No.523264

>>523262
more like bipolar era lmao

 No.523265

>>523260
Seethe Maupin seethe!

 No.523266

>>782546
Interesting you should mention Euromaidan
since you have pretended it didn't happen until now

 No.523267

>>523182
UHHHH ANTIIMPERIALIST BROS?

 No.523268

>>523196
Not what imperialism means, and the sanctions might be China soft piloting a transition to the Yuan in its trade deals with other countries

 No.523269

>>523262
Not quite yet. The EU still has to shake itself off from the burgers. China still isn't strong enough. After that, we'll enter REAL multipolarity.

 No.523271

>>523259
Well, like Putin said a few weeks back before the invasion; Russia has nowhere else to go. In Putin's mind, either Russia becomes the global superpower or its nothing. So under that kind of logic, the gamble was worth it in his mind; only its backfired immensely on him and now even China is sanctioning him.

 No.523272

>>523264
*Tripolar

 No.523273


 No.523274

>mention China
>guaranteed replies

 No.523275

>>523262
as long as Russia doesn't lose and doesn't become large DPRK without the socialism because of sanctions
>>523264
the bpd era

 No.523276

>>782546
>Idealism and parables
You don’t remember the Euromaidown, do you?

 No.523277

>>523213
Based and objectively correct take

 No.523278

>>523266
Interesting that you don't argue against any of my points because you know they're true and you're just a simp for a right wing imperialist oligarchy.

 No.523279

>>523235
>they don’t do it anymore
<literally right in their historic 1116 resolution mentioning “national rejuvenation” and the “century of humiliation” as the new buzzwords more than a doze times
https://news.cgtn.com/news/files/Resolution1116.pdf
How can you be able to support these red imperialists without even reading their texts? Fucking larper Americans.

 No.523280

>>523260
>China announces sanctions on Russia
>Me and a couple anons take the piss out of Dengists, Haz and Caleb Maupin
<Whine that people are doing so
k

 No.523281

>>523261
How is this feasible in a nuclear state? Any modern russian revolution would devolve into banditry

 No.523282

>>523182
lmfao
Fucking wild card.

 No.523283

>>523270
so, does this mean they are gonna join russia?

 No.523284

>>523270
the Japanese propaganda is so strong, when Hong Cuckers thought of another big bad empire they used the Nazis instead of Imperial Japan that actually attacked HK

 No.523285

>>523270
this is an endorsement for them

 No.523286

>>523182
Based, based, BASED!

 No.523287

>>523279
Are you Vietnamese ? I see you have Vietnamese flag ? What do you think about the current Vietnamese government ?

 No.523288

>>523276
None of what I said is idealism you utter moron, and that word doesn't mean what you think it means; yes, I remember Euromaiden. Remember Cuban 1959 revolution? Euromaiden gave Russia no more right to invade Ukraine than Cuban Revolution gave the U.S to invade Cuba.

 No.523289

>>523278
I don't argue against any of your points cause I am not a debatebro
and don't believe you are worth the time

 No.523290

>>523270
>Don't let history repeat
rich coming from the country that continues to deny their own atrocities during World War 2

 No.523291

>>523182
the eternal dengist..

 No.523292

File: 1645803159218.jpg (39.51 KB, 574x335, 6-2.jpg)

>>>782574
>Fucking wild card.

More like diplomatic Chads. Xi-sama, I kneel.

 No.523293

>>523289
>i'm stupid and know I'm wrong

thanks, I already said that. Have fun being wrong.

 No.523294

>>523287
Basically China but with less cult of personality same economic system.

 No.523295

>>523290
>>523270
Has anyone made a Japanese version of the China Tiananmen copypasta?

 No.523296

>>523279
>Red imperialists
Opinion discarded

 No.523297

>>523293
>you are stupid if you dont debate me
Nta, but you should definitely kys

 No.523298

>>523294
Question; is there any will within communist party in Vietnam to adopt cyber-socialism and other proposals for a planned economy rather than just remaining a market economy?

 No.523299

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>>523279
China does more socialism in a day than everyone does in a year.

Cope and seethe.

 No.523300

>>523255
Он буквально призвал создать хунту в Киеве, какой же пизданутый.

 No.523301

>>523297
you first, russian imperialist

 No.523302

>>523294
May I ask have you ever read Enver Hoxha ? Just curious.

 No.523303

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FUCK RUSSIA

FUCK NATO

HAIL XI

 No.523304

>>523249
might even be a preemptive move if they expect more sanctions from the West
>>523274
cope, we love china!

 No.523305

>>523221
Feels like a last resort to me and I honestly doubt porky ever allows it

 No.523306

>>523295
I wanted to make one for South Korea since they have a lot of fucked shit in their short history

 No.523307

Interesting thread about Anglos in Ukraine
https://twitter.com/NicolaKelly/status/1496867034638188551

 No.523308

>>523288
>Comparing a national liberation movement that allied with the communists to a far-right Nazi color revolution
What do “rights” have to do with anything?

 No.523309

>>523299
>chinese-gucci-stores.jpg

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>>523303
/PRC/ BROWSERS SEND ME YOUR ENERGIES. WE KEEP WINNING

 No.523311

>>523298
Oh my god I can't stop laughing at the amount of utopian socialism in this post.

 No.523312

>>523244
>Be US Ukranian resistance instructor
>Giant rectangle in the middle with the instructor surrounded by a giant lattice of attendees webcams.
>"Alright , everyone's here, first I'd like to thank you for…"
>Half the attendees are in some state of undress
>Half the atendees are exhibiting some form of fascist insignia, paraphenalia or body mark.
>Several people are clearly masturbating
>Switch to the instructor tele conference
>Instructors are openly flirting with the ukranian officers which in turn invite lesser ranks to "meet" them on their behalf
>At least one has an entire office of gawkers watching the sad spectacle

 No.523313

>>523299
so party billionaires are socialism?

 No.523314

>>523178
Putin. How dare he

 No.523315

>>523227
Recognition of breakaway states is diplomatically a very big deal, and people didn't know what was coming in the next couple days to completely overshadow it.

 No.523316

>>523299
Fucking based. Russocucks seething right now.

 No.523317

>>523301
FUCK RUSSIA
FUCK UKRAINE
FUCK AMERICA
FUCK FAGGOTS
FUCK UYGHURS
FUCK TRANSHUMANISTS
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY
FUCK (YOU)

 No.523318

>>523311
you mean just socialism which is utopian to you since you are not a socialist?

 No.523319

>>523316
We're still taking Ukraine, NATO-cuck

 No.523320

>>523318
>Being this illiterate
Two words “scientific socialism”

 No.523321

I condemned Putler for my daily praxis. Nevertheless, he persisted

 No.523322

>>523307
brit sex pat alt righters like that bald and bankrupt guy

 No.523323

>>523321
the sanctiorinos, they are not working!

 No.523324

>>523270
>some paper in japan posts boomer meme.
it's ogre for putin.

 No.523325

>>523318
Look pal, restoration of socialism won't happen by someone calling people to build "cyber socialism" by having a supercomputer planning everything. No, it can only happen via class struggle and revolution. Face facts.

 No.523326

>>523320
i remember when scientific socialists advocated for rationally planned economies… you know… one of THE pillars of socialism

 No.523327

>>523298
There’s three kind of people: Bolshevik romantics, socdem pragmatists, and red liberals in the party. Bringing back planned economy is not popular but stuff like bringing free healthcare and education are very mainstream.
>>523302
Nah, he supported the Khmer Rouge and was a retard. I’m a classical revisionist Khrushchevite.

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Thank you leftypol thank you. You are all so kind. Yes my diplomatic genius will usher us into socialism in a few decades, but the real heroes… are you leftypol.

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>>523309
Good. We'll just use Gucci branded ropes to hang the capitalists instead of generic brand ones.

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>>523327
Enver Hoxha supported Khmer Rouge ? Where did you get that information ?

 No.523331

>>782628
>nooooo its not actually imperialism nooooo

 No.523332

>>782628
soyjak_hanging_from_rope.jpg

 No.523333

Has anyone noticed there has been less combat footage of this war when compared to others (like say, Nagorno-Karabakh)? Am i wrong or is the OPSEC on both sides that good?
This came to my mind as i was trying to imagine what these battle looked like, but could only think of the aftermath footage i've seen.

 No.523334

>>523325
They did say Vietnam so..unless you mean Vietnam needs another revolution

 No.523335

China what?

 No.523336

>Zelenski says that ukrainians dead by russian military are "heroes".
How the fuck people dying for nothing in a very retarded way makes them "heroes"? I'm started to think that he meant it the "an hero" way.

 No.523337

>>523328
No problem. Kim thanked us in a similar manner years ago. Always got your back bro.

 No.523338

>>523333
There is no combat, Ukranians are either running or surrendering

 No.523339

>>523334
Yes, yes it does.

 No.523340

>>523333
There is less direct contact

 No.523341

>>523339
Fair enough

 No.523342

>>523336
Hitler also expected every German to die before surrendering, Nazis are psychos

 No.523343

>>523333
The Hostomel airport footage is going to be interesting as fuck.

 No.523344

New Texas just dropped.

 No.523345

>invade Ukraine
>get sanctioned by everyone, and I mean, literally EVERYONE

Russia is on their own now, aren't they?

 No.523346

this nibba Zelensky was really like "Civilians here's some guns, now go save me from the RAF"

 No.523347

>>523345
Cuba was sanctioned too! It's called anti-imperialism!

 No.523348

>>523345
always has been

 No.523349

Impromptu barricades in Kiev

 No.523350

Regardless of your opinion about Putin I have respect for the guy for the way he just ignores the sanctions, Russia will be sanctioned back to the stone age and he doesn't give a fuck, not even a word, that's based as fuck actually.

This is what every country should be doing, ignoring faggy sanctions.

 No.523351

>>523344
>The eternal burgerbrain

 No.523352

>>523345
capitalist gigaDPRK now

 No.523353

>>523350
Sigma Putin

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>>523336
calling someone a hero is a very cheap way to say "thank you for dying lmao"

 No.523355

>>523345
Went over the Infamy limit innit.

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>>523252
In the first vid there is no Z on any of the vehicles. It's a friendly fire incident.

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>>523350
Yeah, that's what government should do, bring it's people to misery

 No.523358

>>523182
>Bloomberg

 No.523359

>>523333
It’s less of a war and more of a curb stomp. The Ukrainian army and navy were completely crippled a few hours in by rocket barrages.

 No.523360

>>523348
But they always had China. Now they don't.

 No.523361

>>523349
Look at those trash barricades…eh? Amirite?

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>>523326
What are you talking about? No one would make anything so unqualifiedlunprescriptive, with Engels in Socialism Utopian and Scientific even describing how SOEs presented a viable pathway to socialism. The state in China, moreover, does own the commanding heights of the economy (infrastructure, energy, military, etc.), although do stand to collectivizing more and more of the other companies and consistently writes policy for social development in quality of life

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>>523359
>>523359
How did Enver Hoxha support the Khmer Rouge though?

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>>523350
Sanctions are retarded. They don't work. They only hurt the citizens, prevent them from building a secure economic base on which any regime change would ultimately depend. Yet they are still considered "non-agressive" and "peaceful" way of resolving conflict. 100% the nation with more sanctions against it is the anti-imperialist force in any conflict.

 No.523365

>>523358
Yeah tbf, cant trust Bloomberg for financial news.

 No.523366

>>523344
Pls be Chechens vs Nazis in Mariupol

 No.523367

>>523360
China just wants the precious resurces from Siberia no matter how it looks afterwards. I rly dont get China stans - its like socialism without the proletariat or internationalism.

 No.523368

>>523350
>evaluating politicians by an artificial appearence of strength
god I hate people

 No.523369

>>523366
Seems like that is the case.

 No.523371

>>523364
>Sanctions are retarded. They don't work
How? Doesn't it make it harder for bourgie classes to make trade and business?

 No.523372

>>523362
>China
>Actual planning toward socializing the means of production
Laughs hysterically in German, Russian, Albanian and Vienamese.

 No.523373

The funny thing is, literally no one has told me what alternative Putler had. I hear a lot of screeching about him but very little talk about what could be done differently.
It was really either invade or let things escalate on the border until there were NATO missiles aimed at Moscow.

 No.523374

>>523360
Not really. Russia and China relations only started warming in recent years and they are by far not best buds like idiots here like to pretend. They have their own agendas and they are in some way competing against each other in Eurasia.

 No.523375

>>523360
In all realness I don't think this is a pure detachment from Russia, I think China is just making gestures to western softie libs and also telling Russia: chill out guys, there's a better way to do this.

 No.523376

>>523357
Sanctions are literally imperialism, what has Cuba ever done to be sanctioned? and Venezuela?

The fact that even a sanctioned Russia survives should be motivation enough for every pariah country to just say "fuck it" and keep going even when sanctioned.

 No.523377

>>523270
Damn…….

 No.523378

All of you are wrong, here's the correct take

>The only reason this is happening is because the USSR was illegally dissolved against the will of it's people. The CPSU is the legitimate government of both the illegally occupied Ukranian SSR and the illegally occupied Russian SFSR. It was never defeated in a free or fair election, but was overthrown in a CIA and IMF backed bandit coup.


>Putin represents those same bandits who destroyed the greatest workers' state that has ever existed, immiserated it's people, looted their society and cast them into darkness and warfare where previously there was peace and prosperity. Soviet brothers are now forced to kill each other when they once lived in harmony. This does not, of course, mean that we should side with the IMF backed Ukranian fascists and liberals, as they represent nothing more than another faction of bandits.


>What we should support, instead, is the withdrawl of BOTH illegal occupation forces and a return of the country to it's legitimate government, which is the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.

 No.523379

>>523373
idk, he coulda just given up on controlling the ukraine?

 No.523380

Why did the Ukrainians get crushed so easily? What was the state of their military? Don't they receive at least some form of Western funding?

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 No.523382

>>523378
extremely based dissolution denier

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>>523182
XI YOU FUCKING BACKSTABBER

 No.523384

>>523380
Russian military is still far superior and Western support was honestly a joke

 No.523385

>>523372
The Vietnamese run a similar economic model to China’s

 No.523386

>>523380
More men, more material, more preparation from the Russian side.

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>>523385
>he Ukrainians get crushed so easily? What was the state of their military? Don't they receive at least some form of Western funding?


>>523385
I was referring to the time they were in conflict.

 No.523388

REMEMBER. This is a thread about UKRAINE, not CHINA. Keep it to /PRC/ or make a thread about it.

 No.523389

>>523380
I think it was never about arming Ukraine to have a good standing military, but to plant the seeds for a nazi/ultranationalist insurgency.

 No.523390

>>523373
Which means the escalation of possible nuclear conflict, like I said. That’s what NATO means

 No.523391

>>523380
Soviet Era planes that were not maintained, 0 navy after Russia took it in 2014 (almost nothing anyways), and it seems like they didn't mobilize the planes after Putin declared war

Western support is like, javelins

 No.523392

>>523330
My bad it was Romania. Hoxha made the same mistake as Stalin, having all his successors be traitors.

 No.523393

>>523375
There is nothing that be done with the NY Fed says it's not processing dollar transactions w/ Russia. You can't avoid dollar sanctions when the US is enforcing them because the US is the one who decides if anything can be traded in dollars.

This is just, unironically, anti-Russia propaganda.

 No.523394

>>523388
fuck em tho

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 No.523396

>>523380
Look at a map, Ukraine is flat as fuck and the border with Russia and Belarus is so wide. There isn't a coherent front line right now, but if it went protracted and the axes of advances connected it would be WWII Eastern Front-tier in terms of length.

 No.523397

>>523380
They didn’t get “crushed”, they mostly surrendered or fled and I’m glad. Why would these conscripts want to fight for their corrupt, dysfunctional government?

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Where's the /leftypol/ reaction screenshot at? We've got days worth of conent.

 No.523399

Why do some retards here unironically believe Putin will restart the Soviet Union?

 No.523401

>>523399
No one does. Learn to take a joke.

 No.523402

>>523373
The alternative was supposed to be a limited conflict in Donbas, smaller but it would never have ended but much more justifiable diplomatically

 No.523403

>>523400
war is bad for business (aka porky)

 No.523404

>>523392
And Vietnamese peasants still got their lands seized to build golf course and hotels.

 No.523405

>>523388
>expecting dengists to refrain from shitting up the board at every opportunity

 No.523406

>>523393
What's your point?

 No.523407

>>523380
Pretty sure it was because they were just not prepared for it, considering that not only did Zelensky himself say that Russia wasn't planning to invade, but didn't even introduce some form of conscription until the invasion

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Yesterday national TV was saying Putin was trying to restore the USSR and now this.

Bruh…

 No.523409

>>523385
Under the barrel of a gun pointed by the US and China. Fun fact, they spent tens of millions funding anti-communist contras to infiltrate Vietnam and Laos in the 80s. That’s why all of them uses Chinese AKMs and using counterfeit money printed in Hainan.

 No.523410

>>523400
Its two state banks dropping the US dollar but keeping yuan credit lines open, yall are blowing this way out of proportion

 No.523411

>>523206
China is not going to be opportunistic. In fact "opportunism" is a dirty word in China, whose history is marked with terrible mistakes made by "left-wing opportunism" and "right-wing opportunism".

China will remain neutral on Russia, almost certainly. It will comply with dollar sanctions when it has to. It will not engage in a voluntary sanctions regimes.

 No.523412

>>523182
SOCIALISM WITH >>CHINESE<< CHARACTERISTICS

EXPORTING THE REVOLUTION BABY

 No.523414

>>523407
Because the people did not like to fight for far right ethnic cleansers.

 No.523415

>>523406
China cannot say "no" to US dollar sanctions. Just not how it works.

 No.523416

File: 1645804355571.mp4 (22.93 MB, 478x848, 3084057110075788459.MP4)

Large Ukrainian convoy wiped out by Russians near Kherson. 50+ vehicles.

 No.523417

>>523400
Nooooooo but my vehicular death traps!!!

 No.523418

Germany, Italy, Hungary and Chipre are against sanctions. I guess they don't want to freeze this winter.

 No.523419

>>523349
Genius Ukrops put the cabins in the middle. We'll get to watch a Russian Strela take out two trucks at the same time rather than the traditional Ukrainian Strela taking out a refugee.

 No.523420

>>523414
Perhaps, but even so, Ukraine not being properly prepared for an invasion didn't help

 No.523421

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>>523410
Which is why I think that it’s a soft pivot towards currency agreements using the Yuan

 No.523423

>>523415
You gotta suck that American moolah to become a superpower baby !

 No.523424

>>523182
Based Xi turns on the Vlasovite reactionaries and their inter-capitalist wars

long live the CPC

 No.523425

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>leftypol is telling me the ukrops got rekt and the war is over any moment now
>various chats im in tell me russia lost 2000+ soldiers and gorillions of tanks and is getting pushed back
>everyone is reposting videos from conflicts that happened 10 fucking years ago and is pretending its the ukraine war
>the "best" source of info is random accounts on telegram

i feel like i'm getting schizophrenia in real time fucking help

 No.523426

>>523373
He could have recognized Donbass and stationed troops there. I really don't see how this could end without seriously strengthening pro-NATO forces in other non-aligned countries and ultranationalists in Ukraine. I also don't see why this was even necessary, given that there seems to be no indication that NATO was willing to accept Ukrainian membership anytime soon anyway. Now Russia has only further alienated the rest of the world, is under more sanctions, and has alienated their most important ally (China). And what have they gained? At best they might keep Ukraine out of NATO, but I don't really see how that will happen without Russia occupying the country. It's not as if anybody is going to recognize a treaty signed at gunpoint to be legally binding, there would be nothing stopping Ukraine from joining anyway.

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>>523398
mfw my imperialist power sends me to die fighting another imperialist power
also this >>523416

 No.523428

>>523415
Let's wait on a statement by Chinese officials on these "sanctions" before we make such speculation. This is why I said I think, I'm speculating, and so are you.

 No.523429

>>523182
>ever trusting dengists
warned you bro

 No.523430

>>523424
"Won't use US dollars" is not leveling sanctions. It's up to the US alone if you can use US dollars or not. In other words, literally fake news.

 No.523431

>>523182
This is a very weird move, I'm 100% certain that Putin told Xi that this was gonna happen and Xi was just like "Do whatever you like lmao good luck".

 No.523432

>>523425
use your brain. Its Russia vs Ukraine which was looted for Bidens crackhead son the last 10 years.

 No.523433

>>523402
Don’t more people just die fighting over Donbass forever?
It just makes way more sense to takeover the region and get it over with.
Otherwise, diplomatically you have the same problem repeating itself for years. I think this just tears the bandaid off.

 No.523434

>>523418
how dare they now want to impoverish their own citizens to own putler!

 No.523435

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>>523037
>cringe

 No.523436

>>523428
It's not speculation. Biden issued these sanctions. The only way for major Russian banks and SOEs to use US dollars now is to hand them to each other in briefcases. Any dollar transaction, anywhere, has to be cleared by the US. US says it won't clear them. No country can use US dollars, even if they would like to. That is precisely how the sanction works.

 No.523438

>>523425
Yup, I've recognized a bunch of videos from the early fucking 2000s so far lol.

 No.523439

>>523432
no i know why its happening, but the amount of disinfo and glow about how its actually going is absolutely off the charts, what the fuck is even real?

 No.523440

File: 1645804587257.mp4 (3.61 MB, 1280x720, 7540639910170930788.MP4)

Ukrainian intelligence (SBU) building on fire in Chernigov.

 No.523441

>>523416
>all those abandoned vehicles
they saw the carnage and just ran

 No.523442

>>523439
Russia is already in Kiev. Nobody even denies it. This is over soon, Biden said 96h

 No.523443

>>523437
Fuck I hate the "I'm sorry for being X" people.
I hope the russian military gives him the bullet.

 No.523444

>>523439
welcome to the propaganda war, read everything with a grain of salt.

 No.523445

>>523441
nope, the second video shows more sad scenes. This was a massacre, I say that without any happiness.

 No.523446

>>523425
Someone compared the Ukraine posting to Baghdad Bob and that's an excellent comparison. Ukraine defenses are falling, but Bob says the Russians are being pushed back and defeated everywhere.

 No.523447

>>523437
Liberalism is baying for the blood of Russians then stopping to do a photo op to appear cuddly.

 No.523448

>>523442
>said 96h

96 hours what?

 No.523449

>>523442
>Biden said 96h
link me so i can own the libs

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 No.523451

>>523448
fall of Kiev

 No.523452


 No.523453

The West has no "oligarchs" - only entrepreneurs, investors and large private philanthropists. By contrast, China and Russia are filled with oligarchs… Curious!

 No.523454

>>523327
>free healthcare and education are very mainstream

Wait, healthcare and education aren't free in Vietnam? I knew they weren't in China but damn I thought they were in Vietnam.

Why does it seem like every socialist state except Cuba is socialist in name only.

 No.523455

>>523450
*spits*

 No.523456

>>523426
>He could have recognized Donbass and stationed troops there
he did though
>I really don't see how this could end without seriously strengthening pro-NATO forces in other non-aligned countries and ultranationalists in Ukraine
who cares? the batlic countries rushed to join nato after Crimea, Putin doesn't seem to care.
>Now Russia has only further alienated the rest of the world, is under more sanctions, and has alienated their most important ally (China).
Russia new sanctions were coming and decided it was worth it.
Kicking them out of SWIFT would be worse and nato didn't even go that far so like all sanctions they'll go away when people forget.
also its doubtful what the Chinese response actually is right now
>And what have they gained?
most of Ukraine obviously lol
>At best they might keep Ukraine out of NATO, but I don't really see how that will happen without Russia occupying the country
he could just take control of Ukraine and import Russians like the USSR did.

 No.523458

>>523453
They're called robber barons and techno-feudalists in the west moron.

 No.523459

>>523182
https://www.163.com/dy/article/DRPAJ7IV05370VC1.html

(article from 2018)

Vladimir Danilov, head of the Central Bank of Russia's representative office in China, said recently that a number of entrepreneurs engaged in trade between Russia and China have complained to him that some Chinese banks have started refusing to provide financial services to Russian clients. The reason for this is the sanctions currently imposed on Russia by the United States and the European Union.

Most of the banks that refuse to provide services to Russian clients are Chinese commercial banks. When Russian customers (who are also users of Russian banks) need payment services from banks, these commercial banks often refuse to provide them on the grounds that sanctions are being imposed on Russia by the United States and the European Union.

Sanctions have had an impact on the lives of Russian citizens

In fact, the Russian clients of these Chinese commercial banks are not connected with the sanctions, and all financial restrictions are imposed only on those organizations or individuals who are on the US and European sanctions lists. The Russian side believes that the overreaction of some Chinese financial institutions stems mainly from the fact that Russia did not provide a detailed interpretation of the U.S.-European sanctions to third countries.

To solve this problem, Vladimir Danilov suggested that explanations to Chinese commercial banks should be intensified so that Chinese financial institutions understand the actual content of the current sanctions imposed by the U.S. and Europe against Russia.

In recent years, with the support of both governments, Russian-Chinese exchanges and cooperation in the financial sphere have gained steady development. A number of Chinese banks have opened branches in Russia, and China's Alipay has become one of the recognized payment systems in Russia. The Central Bank of Russia has also set up its first representative office abroad in Beijing, which fully demonstrates the importance it attaches to China.

In terms of feedback from the Russian financial community, Russians are now more appreciative of financial cooperation between Russia and China, which they see as meeting the current business needs of companies. Although the majority of Russian-Chinese trade transactions are still conducted in US dollars, the number of transactions in national currencies is gradually increasing.

Kostin suggested to increase cooperation with the Chinese side

Not long ago, Andrey Koskin, Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Russian Foreign Trade Bank, proposed four initiatives to abandon the US dollar and make a complete switch to the ruble or the yuan. After the proposal was made, it caused hot comments in Russian financial circles. Several high-ranking officials of the State Duma have expressed their support for the Kostin plan, but the Kremlin has not expressed its opinion so far.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Lmao Chinese banks already "sanctioned" (aka refused to provide services to) Russians back in 2018, they are proabably trying to save their own asses.

The CPC will probably continue to work with the Russian side more discretely.

>In other news


https://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=1725731082895030346&wfr=spider&for=pc

The hegemony of the dollar has forced many countries to use the dollar as a foreign exchange reserve, but the U.S. arbitrarily adjusts its monetary policy out of its own interests and harvests the fruits of world labor. This has caused other countries to lose trust in the U.S. government and to start boycotting the U.S. dollar, including China and Russia.

With the recent intensification of the Russia-Ukraine conflict, busy Russia has not forgotten to go to the U.S. dollar while dealing with border operations. on Feb. 25, Russian media reported that Gazprom Neft said that in China, Russian airlines will use RMB mutual settlement to refuel, making it the first Russian company in China to fully use RMB mutual settlement. At the end of this year, the company also intends to allow Chinese airlines to use ruble settlement for refueling at Russian airports.

This is a joint effort of Russia and China to move away from the US dollar, and it is hoped that this project will facilitate the joint economic development of the two countries, increase the volume of air traffic between the two countries, and increase the volume of trade between them. It is also a new development in the process of resisting the hegemony of the dollar in both countries.

In addition, according to RIA Novosti, on February 25, the EU will not sell any more aircraft and related equipment to Russia. This means that Russian airlines will have to buy aircraft and other related equipment from other countries for their import needs. If the U.S. takes the same measures, perhaps Russia will purchase aircraft and equipment from China as well.

And Russian authorities also said today that Russia will consider establishing new partnerships with Asian countries due to increasing Western trade restrictions on Russia. It seems that there may be a new chapter in the trade between China and Russia.

 No.523460

>>523457
where exactly is the Z on this thing?

 No.523461

>>523182
Isn't this just China dedollarizing but dressing it up as wholesome compliant sanctions?

 No.523462

>>523437
What's funny is that this is a conflict between two states, not it's people. And not only that but Ukrainians and Russians are indistinguishable ethnically speaking as well as culture and language so this is a pointless photo op.

 No.523463

>>523433
>Don’t more people just die fighting over Donbass forever?
Maybe but that's perfectly acceptable for these brutal nations. It doesn't 'violate muh territorial integrity' etc. Also it was pretty clear that Ukraine would continue to be at fault for not enacting Minsk

 No.523464

>>523214
>Talking to libs
Leftypol and on the ground news are all you need

 No.523465

>>523439
post-information age

 No.523466

>>523457
That was a team kill.

 No.523467

>>782794
Ukraine isn't a legitimate state though

 No.523468

Kind of ridiculous seeing videos showing clear friendly fire and like a hundred comments saying "THOSE WERE RUSSIANS WEARING UKRAINIAN UNIFORMS. THIS IS A WAR CRIME"

 No.523469

>>523467
Okay Putinist

 No.523470

>>523468
yeah its cope

 No.523471

>>523469
seethe liberal

 No.523473

>>523182
Can we confirm this is real?

 No.523474

Night falls on Kyiv.

 No.523475

File: 1645805033736.png (337.96 KB, 468x403, bau.png)


 No.523476

>>523457
They're letting civilians drive tanks now?

 No.523477

This is why the very word "geopolitics" was smeared in the USSR

 No.523478

>>523473
Of course it is. Look up New York Fed sanctions. US sanctions do not require cooperation of other countries to work! They work because other countries use USD.

 No.523479

>>523472
I am pretty sure that Soviet union flag tank was from the East and had a Z too but maybe you know more than me. After "Russian war crime no 248247012" that turned out to be a twitter hoax I try to keep my eyes open.

This man should be punished, Russian or not

 No.523480

File: 1645805096641.png (461.2 KB, 440x596, ClipboardImage.png)

>>523441
>and just ran
Yeah there is going to be a lot more of that. The Ukranian nato puppets are bent on throwing as many bodies as possible into the carnage, just to please their transatlantic owners. Every Ukranian solider should just desert, there is literally no chance of them winning and their only role in this war is to feed their blood into the US's foreign policy PR fund.

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-news-02-24-22-intl/h_4309a4916d57670f85519210a07fb2c9
Ukrainian males aged 18-60 are banned from leaving the country, Zelensky says in new declaration

>Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has ordered a general military mobilization.


>In a declaration signed late Thursday, Zelensky said that "in order to ensure the defense of the state, maintaining combat and mobilization readiness of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other military formations," a broad-based mobilization was ordered, including in the capital, Kyiv and all Ukraine's major cities.


>"Mobilization shall be carried out within 90 days from the date of entry into force of this Decree," the announcement said.

>The mobilization also instructed "the Security Service of Ukraine to take counterintelligence measures during the general mobilization."
<It ordered the "conscription of conscripts, reservists for military service, their delivery to military units and institutions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine" and other state security services.

<At the same time, Ukraine has banned all-male citizens 18-60 years old from leaving the country, according to the State Border Guard Service.


He's literally just seeking to increase the casualties now. The more Ukranians that die, the better it will look for daddy Wshington.

 No.523481

File: 1645805116122.jpg (21.56 KB, 600x300, xi regards wine glass.jpg)

>>523418
mfw china does more against russian imperialist aggression than the Euro-fags

 No.523482

>>523453
That says more about western media though

 No.523483

File: 1645805151276.mp4 (10.28 MB, 624x1280, 83387539052625584.MP4)

Footage from the heavy fighting in Melitopol earlier today. Russians firing on Ukrainian position supposedly. Russians now in control of Melitopol.

 No.523484

>>523457
Yes I've read about this, the guy on the car is in very serious condition, might die.
On the other hand that driver was pretty based for driving that way thinking he was playing GTA.

 No.523485

>>523482
thats the point

 No.523486

>>523457
Honestly why are people driving around anywhere near tanks in the first place? Like they know this is a warzone right?

 No.523487

https://twitter.com/beverstine/status/1497234452128354307
"russia does not have air superiority" -Pentagon

 No.523488

>>523426
>And has alienated their most important ally (China).

WRONG zoomer.

 No.523489

>>523472

They had Z V O groups which corresponds to the 3 spearheads likely for recognition in Russia's anticipated quick dash west. Videos showing later convoys I couldn't make out ID markings but these were often engineering or artilleries systems

 No.523490

>>523480
>mobilisation will be carried out within 90 days

lol so it's pointless then

 No.523491

>>523481
You’re trying to meme Russian imperialism into a reality and it just doesn’t apply here

 No.523492

>>523484
dude the car dude is mush and the driver belongs to the hague. Its not gta its real people. how old are you?

 No.523493

>>523426
> anytime soon anyway.
Kind of assuming a lot. The minute the country made its intentions of joining NATO was enough of a reason to be concerned. Ukraine already being a puppet state of the U.S. and the U.S. not actively opposing its membership lends credence to the likelihood being high given the track record. The result would have been the same, but would have taken longer to get there.

 No.523494

>>523445
yep, the carnage I mentioned
>>523480
This is what we mean when we say Ukraine is nationalist af. Zelly would have been deposed if he was less nationalist. They hated it when he tried to enact Minsk. Now it's fine to feed civilians guns instead of capitulate

 No.523495

>>523440
Burning documents, it's over

 No.523496

boomer propaganda time
>Have health woes sent Putin mad? After rumours that he has cancer and Parkinson's disease, experts suggest a combination of Long Covid and pandemic isolation could have left him ever further detached from reality

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10551251/Did-Covid-send-Putin-mad.html#comments

 No.523497

>>523486
maybe they are trying to leave the area?
maybe they are rushing someone who is injured to a hospital?
maybe they are out of weed and they try to meet up with their dealer?
many possible reasons, really

 No.523498


 No.523499

>>523247
1979, It's was when the omminous picture of Deng with carter in the background was taken. They invade so that the US would normalize relations and help the khmer rouge in their genocide.

 No.523501

>>523492
He said the guy was based, not that he was smart.

 No.523502

>>523499
>1979, It's was when the omminous picture of Deng with carter in the background was taken.
What picture?

 No.523503

I wonder how many dumb ukrainian civilians thought "Yes it's finally time to kill some ruskies" only to be killed by the russian military in a very retarded way.
That kind of "civilian army" is /pol/'s wet dream.

 No.523504

>>523483
this shit is going to be a fucking meatgrinder

 No.523505

>>523489
I see thank you. If you have any sign whether that car-crushing vehicle us russian or ukrainian id thank you but Id underatand if nobody can say. what a useless murder

 No.523506

>>523299
Communist billionaires and landlords

 No.523507

>>523496
The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of great men emotional state

 No.523508

>>523504
Stalingrad 2: ===UKRAINIAN BOOGALOO=

 No.523509

>>523487
MSNBC was saying this last night too

also
>General sense from what the US is seeing is Russia is not moving as fast on Kyiv as expected.

 No.523510

File: 1645805423931.png (Spoiler Image, 314.28 KB, 378x517, Screen Shot 2022-02-25 at ….png)

>>523435
can we start obnoxiously comparing everything to Dune? It's a much better written geopolitical saga and the sandworms are a nice touch.

 No.523511

>>523497
They had plenty of time to leave before the tanks started shooting at each other

RIP to the car guy obviously but still

 No.523512

>>523510
Middle East but with magic sand instead of oil. epic

 No.523513

>>523501
whatever. I started out quite bloodthirsty too but now i srsly hope that Russia wins with as little casualties as humanly possible

 No.523514

>>523491
At what point does Russia become imperialist? Is it when they seize your personal living space?

 No.523515

>>523505
The tankist was either trying to prevent the car from escaping or he just did it for the lulz thinking that no one was watching.

 No.523516

File: 1645805501696.jpg (8.3 KB, 244x206, 1612444754579.jpg)

>>782805
>you are a moron and no one loves you.

 No.523517

>>523509
Because Ukraine isn't a dilapidated Iraq. It's almost like wars usually involve losses on both sides and plans going awry. Americans have no idea that's possible because they haven't fought a near-peer opponent since 1945.

 No.523518

>>523131
>Cuckrainian uniforn
>No Z markings on vehicles
I doubt Russian special forces would stroll around in unarmoured vehicles
Looks like more Cuckrainian cope

 No.523519

>>523504
>Russians now in control of Melitopol
seems more like a blitzkrieg than a meatgrinder but we shall see

 No.523520

>>523510
Trump is Vladimir Harkonnen

 No.523521

>>523515
Probably just didn't see it given how fast they were both moving. Visibility in tanks is not good.

 No.523522

>>782867
Considering they’re forcibly conscripting people off buses, I’m not sure they have much choice.

 No.523523

>>523484
that car driver was an absolute madman

 No.523524

File: 1645805577165.png (458.72 KB, 715x589, ClipboardImage.png)


 No.523525

>>523521
it semms like he was going out of his way to hit that car

 No.523526

>Kiev mayor says that civilians should hide and keep safe
>Zelensky says that civilians should die for nothing fighting against a superpower.

Things like this remind me that Zelensky is actually a literal fucking comedian.

 No.523527


 No.523528

>>523456
>he could just take control of Ukraine and import Russians like the USSR did
The USSR didn't "import" Russians, they just moved there because it was part of a single country. What you're describing would be a form of colonialism.
>the batlic countries rushed to join nato after Crimea, Putin doesn't seem to care
Isn't the entire point of this to counter NATO encirclement of Russia? Even if he somehow successfully keeps Ukraine out in perpetuity, he's dramatically increased thr chances of countries like Finland and Sweden joining.
>Russia new sanctions were coming and decided it was worth it.
I really fail to see how.
>most of Ukraine obviously lol
And what is he going to do with it? He's already said that he won't occupy it. The Donbass Republics will probably gain some territory, but the vast majority of the country will remain under the control of Kiev, and it would he very difficult to maintain a pro-Russian government there without an occupation.

 No.523529

>>523525
0 chance.

 No.523530

File: 1645805678796.gif (1023.81 KB, 500x268, IMG_3462.GIF)

>>523526
He's doing the Hitler in the bunker sketch

 No.523531

>>523511
life isnt always that easy. if it was really that obvious when and how to gte out, there wouldnt be any civilian casulties

 No.523532

File: 1645805686090.mp4 (10.14 MB, 464x848, 16457918574010.mp4)

>>523457
You forget, this is a cartoon

 No.523533

>>523532
WHOLESOME

 No.523534

>>523532
>still alive
MAD LAD

 No.523535

>>523457
Wasn't that an Ukrainian vehicle?

 No.523536

>>523532
yeah for real.

 No.523538

Just took a bath,
Is it over?

 No.523539

>>523532
Literal tank-proof uygha.

 No.523540

>>523538
>he thinks there was a war

 No.523541

>>523537
He doesn't even look injured (though probably is at least a bit)

 No.523542

More wrecked Ukrainian equipment.

 No.523543

>>523538
almost

 No.523544

>>523538
not yet

 No.523545

>>523535
I think so since it lacks a Z but not all Russians have it either. IF somebody can tell for sure Id appreciate it

 No.523546

>>523514
Vladimir Lenin wrote a book on this. It’s basically when financial monopoly capital dominates a country and it’s main export is money investment to other underdeveloped countries to be repaid with interest

 No.523547

>>523538
nah since russia is so incompetent itll prob take them day to take kiev

 No.523548

>>523480
>Every Ukranian solider should just desert, there is literally no chance of them winning and their only role in this war is to feed their blood into the US's foreign policy PR fund.
This 100%

 No.523549

>>523542
with the music it's a mood

 No.523550

>>523532
Did they get the grandma out?

 No.523551

Ukraine seems to be avoiding surrender by delaying Russians to group behind fortified positions, meaning Russia will have to bring in the literal big guns. Not good actually. That's really bad.

 No.523552

>>523542
Moving heavy equipment around like that when you already lost air superiority is a death sentence

 No.523553

>>523542
are people just going about their business during this shit?

 No.523554

>>523496
>Corona-chan: You should like, totally invade Ukraine
<I don't know Coronaievna, securing Crimea and the Donbass might be enough
>C'mon, YOLO

 No.523555

>>523550
sait it earlier on twitter and apparently they did

 No.523556

>>523538
Now that you've finished your bath, it is.
Thank you anon.

 No.523557

Are chechens as orquish and violent as pol says?

 No.523558

>>523546
Okay thats capitalist imperialism but isn't the only imperialism

 No.523559

>>523551
These idiots refuse to give up
>>523557
They say that because they're muslims, but they might hate Nazis more

 No.523560

>>523552
I can't tell who exactly is in denial about Ukraine having lost air superiority. Their airforce is evidently gone. If they have any places left, they have no airfields.

 No.523561

>>523557
No they are literally just normal human beeings like you and me (except if you are anglo)

 No.523562

>>523557
no, since races are made up every homo sapiens has about the same natural ability for empathy

 No.523563

>>523553
people have to go to work pay for rent and food and shit, even more so if they're poor, wars are always like this actually. Rich people already fled or bunked down.

 No.523564

>>523553
Wagie wagie, no slackey during wartimee

 No.523565

>>523457
Holy shit why are Ukrainians so bad at driving these things? I swear every single incident of someone driving like a fucking idiot is Ukrainian. This car crush was caused by the driver being distracted by another crash of a Ukrainian truck driver smashing into a random car and then getting lit up ( >>522998 )
Vid related these guys can't drive for shit
>>523484
>On the other hand that driver was pretty based for driving that way thinking he was playing GTA.
lmfao

 No.523566

the old thread is dying, and the new thread struggles to be born
now is the time of morons

 No.523567

>>523553
Yeah. Typical for wartime.

 No.523568

>>523557
Replace Chechen with blacks and you'll realize the retardation of your post.

 No.523570

Guys, I thought Putin was some 10D chess player, how can he do something this stupid? He is literally throwing it all away for a country with a lower gdp per capita than the Philippines and a likely decade long insurgency, not to ignore the shit hes getting from back home. And because of what? a few people were being shelled in the poorest shithole of the shithole known as ukraine? Because he thought that NATO would take ukraine after they refused to let them in several times?

Look I get that the Ukraine is strategically important for Russia, but there must have been a better way than this.

 No.523571

>>523542
It's amazing how these people are just listening to music on spotify or whatever while sreaming that, almost like a tourist attraction.

Capitalism has even warped how people experience a war on the ground.

 No.523572

>>523557
No but they're similar to Afghans in that their country has been in a perpetual state of conflict for at least 5 decades, so the populace is traumatized and completely desensitized to violence

 No.523573

>>523569
Dafuq is that?

 No.523574

>>523520
Uh sweaty obviously Putin is Harkonnen. They are both named Vladimir after all.

 No.523575

>>523571
nah, this shit is pretty normal

 No.523576

>>523563
I mean look I get that if the war goes on for weeks for months but it's only been like 1 day, if there's tanks driving around your area then cmon, tell the boss you'll come in tomorrow

 No.523577

>>523557
The ethnicity? No. But there are some Chechens either in jihadist groups or in Kadyrov's security units who deserve the wall.

 No.523578

>>523573
A dud rocket

 No.523579

>>523565
fucking kek

 No.523580

>>523570
>He is literally throwing it all away for a country with a lower gdp per capita than the Philippines and a likely decade long insurgency.
Putin gives zero fucks about anything now, he's the absolute madman. I wish Xi was like this regarding Taiwan.

 No.523581

>>523569
what is that?

>>523570
>He is literally throwing it all away
he aint. there wont be lasting repercussians for this aside from the economic downturn, but russias economy was already in the shitter, so who cares?

 No.523582

>>523557
they are nice people but if you piss them off they don''t discuss with you and just kick your ass

 No.523583

>>523570
> a few people were being shelled
The situation was improving with each year, there was a stable decline in casualties. Don't let this Putinist propaganda about "saving the people of Donbass" trick you.

 No.523584

>>523580
Xi not being like this is why China is succeeding and Russia is a shithole

 No.523585

>>523480
Is anyone reporting on this conscription? Not even Hasanabi has mentioned this garbage.

 No.523586

Does anybody have some info/sources on the Minsk agreements and why they were never able to be implemented?

 No.523587


 No.523588

>>523573
>>523581
unexploded missile

 No.523589

>>523570
Putin literally seethes about the ussr, his hate boner for Stalin and Lenin knows no end and with that, the whole world will burn.

 No.523590


 No.523591

File: 1645806365876.mp4 (527.24 KB, 480x270, w0b0gUnuz8BSrIlQ.mp4)

>Russian tennis player Andrey Rublev writing "No war please" on the camera after his win in Dubai today.

 No.523592

>>523570
Maybe desperation? It's going shit to shit in Russia every year and this is his last try to make himself look like someone great, instead of a desperate man.

 No.523593

>>523558
>I choose to believe
Yeah, no. It’s the only definition that actually has some semblance of structure

 No.523594

Russians shooting entire family in a car and run over civilian with tank with him being alive stuck inside. And i can watch it live. How can anybody defend this mindless war?

 No.523595

>>523594
Literally both of those were committed by Ukrainians

 No.523596

>>523586
There were a lot of reasons. Ukrainian nationalists were too cocky to the point of throwing a grenade in the Ukrainian parliament during the Minsk process. LPR and DPR didn't organize elections (the crucial event in the Minsk roadmap) at the selected date so the Minsk couldn't move farther.

 No.523597

>>523591
Liberal gestures are lame I swear.

 No.523598

>>523591
So stunning, so brave #PrayforUkraine

 No.523599

>>523213
Xi is the epitome of red pilled basedness.

 No.523600

>>523591
>Rich liberal tennis player kid

 No.523601

Yes I come here to screech and moralize, not to shitpost, how can you tell?

 No.523602

>>523570
It's inter imperialist rivalry gone violent. Putin's mental capabilities or moral standing doesn't have much to do with that. They were already under sanctions and prepared for 8 years for the eventual consequences of pup petting Ukraine. The Russian rulling class is ok with it and they'll likely prevail.

 No.523603

>>523589
> for Stalin
He literally praised Stalin for "correcting Lenin's mistakes" in his speech. He still thinks (?) Great Purge was too harsh, but Stalin is respected by Putin.

 No.523604

File: 1645806582907.png (24.52 KB, 732x353, Zman.png)

Zelensky might be taking all this pretty hard.

https://twitter.com/BarakRavid/status/1497214423756197889

 No.523605

>>523591
>not mirorred for the spectators

YOU HAD ONE JOB!

 No.523606

>>523604
He knows he'll either be killed by Russia or the Nazi elements in his government

 No.523607

>>523600
I'm sure Russian working class kids and their families are thrilled about dying for Putin and his porky buddies.

 No.523608

>>523604
Well he's not wrong.

 No.523609


 No.523610

>>523595
Sure Ukrainians killing Ukrainians in Ukraine. Not the invading young Russian soldiers scared to death inside enemy territory.

 No.523611

>>523604
he will be put on trial by putler

 No.523612

>>523604
What a fucking dramaqueen lmao.

 No.523613

>>523604
Kinda doubt he will get killed by Russia unless he goes down fighting like a retard

 No.523614

>>523594
the family in the car was literally accidental friendly fire because, as one might guess, giving scared randos guns and telling them to defend the city against an enemy that might come any moment is a bad idea.

 No.523615

>>523605
People will say "oh that looks like some russian letters and shit" and ignore it.

 No.523616

>>523608
If Ukrainians have shown one thing, it's that ultimately they're not cowardly Westoids.

 No.523617

>>523612
he's an actor after all

 No.523618

>>523604
despite it all i can't help feeling bad for him

 No.523619

air raid arlams above kiev have just gone off

 No.523620

>>523603
Putin respects Stalin for the same reason dumb booklet tankie kids do, because he sees him as a great man and strong leader. It's Hegelian nonsense

 No.523621

>>523604
But I thought Russia forces were being repelled?

 No.523622

>>523604
Zelensky is now going all Allende? Kino.

 No.523623

>>523619
night bombings?

 No.523624

>>523623
so far no detonations are visible on my screen, so idk

 No.523625

>>523620
Yes, his stance on Stalin is fucking delusional. Still tried to correct anon because Putin clearly doesn't hate Stalin.

 No.523626

File: 1645806865328.jpg (14.85 KB, 288x288, IMG_2870.JPG)

>>523622
Don't compare a revolutionary hero to a clown anon. He's like Hitler at best.

 No.523627

>>523594
Both were done by Ukrainians
First one was an accident and second one was the clueless civilians Zelensky is handing out assault rifles to mistaking a random green car for Russians

 No.523628

>>523574
The CIA are the Bene Gesserit sisterhood

 No.523629

https://twitter.com/UkraineLive2022/status/1497106587877584896?s=20&t=AC89ihjkXWfqPxhQg9zYRA
UA soldiers were stopping cars and busses and yanking out any man aged 18-60 to conscript in the Ukrainian Army. In one place, a commissar was shouting “say goodbye to your daughters, mothers, and girlfriends; you must turn back and fight the Russian invader!”
Ukrainian army forcefully conscripting all males between 18-60. I'm sure this will end well

 No.523630

>>523626
He is a president taking last stand against foreign aggressors who literally stated creation of military junta as their goal.

 No.523631

>>523630
He's a literal fucking clown, I hope someone makes his wish come true just for being such a fag.

 No.523632

>>523604
They probably left out the
>… you motherfuckers.

As well as the litany of reassurances for his and his government's safety and continuation that he was probably informally given and later betrayed on.

>>523629

BLOOD FOR THE FREEDOM GOD

SKULLS FOR THE FREEDOM THRONE

 No.523633

>>523457
>>523532
This supposedly happened in the outskirts of Kiev, where Russia isn't supposed to have reached yet. Seems like another result of Volkssturm.

 No.523634

>>523629
This was already posted in this thread homie

 No.523635

>>523630
he is a pile of asphalt that will be steamrolled

 No.523636

>>523634
I have poor reading comprehension

 No.523637

>>523631
Literal clown has more balls than all of leftypol combined.

 No.523638

Explosions in Kharkov just now

 No.523639

>>523629
>say goodbye to your daughters, mothers, and girlfriends
Yeah that's 100% going to improve morale, I would go and defect to the Russian army if they did this to me.

 No.523640

>>523610
first of all many Russian vehicles have a Z on them. Second of all - when you hand out weapons to 10k Kiev civilians nobody knows whos on whos side anymore - which is why a civil goverment never does those things. A poster before already argued that even Hitler Volkssturm was more organized, people spoke different languages and had wildly different uniforms.

All Twitter can do is cope cause on the field it doesnt look very good. I mean look at liveuamap or what that link was, or your local newspaper.

 No.523641

>>523630
>Use child soldiers
>Fail anyway
such hero lol

 No.523642

>>523637
>sending civs to certain death to hold out a bit longer
>balls

 No.523643

>>523630
Time to repost this gem
>St. Petersburg (ND). Vladimir Putin, 2nd Mayor of St. Petersburg and Chairman of the Committee for External Relations of the city of six million, has made it clear to German business representatives that a military dictatorship along the lines of the Chilean model would be the desirable solution to Russia's current political problems. This was reported by WDR in the TV feature "Aufbruch nach Osten" (Monday, January 3, 1994, WEST 3 from 9:15 to 9:45 p.m.).

>Putin answered questions from representatives of BASF, Dresdner Bank, Alcatel and others who met in the former GDR Consulate General in St. Petersburg. Putin distinguished between "necessary" and "criminal" violence. He said that political violence is criminal if it is aimed at eliminating market-economy conditions, and "necessary" if it promotes or protects private capital investments. He, Putin, expressly approved of possible preparations by Yeltsin and the military to bring about a Pinochet-style dictatorship in view of the difficult private economic path. Putin's remarks were received with friendly applause both by the German company representatives and by the deputy German consul general who was present.

 No.523644

>>523637
Most posters are Westoids can't concieve of danger. Slavs are going all out and Westoids can only seethe at how brave these people can be. It doesn't make sense to their Westoid brains where only they are the competent heroes when in reality they'd abandon their IFVs the second it got a graze from a machine gun.

 No.523645

>>523640
> first of all many Russian vehicles have a Z on them.
https://twitter.com/CITeam_en/status/1497219545949421587

 No.523646

>>523637
>Giving weapons to random civilians to die for nothing while begging for western help is having balls.

Reminder that Hitler did the same actually.

 No.523647

>>523542
I swear every civilian is listening to this song

 No.523648

>>523556
I knew it, I was the secret weapon to world peace

 No.523649

>>523645
thx bro. Now pls look for those on the ah-so-evil Russian vehicles doing random acts of violence

 No.523650

>>523637
what else can you expect when most of leftypol is white middle class suburbanites?

 No.523651

>>523528
>The USSR didn't "import" Russians,
>they just moved there
lol ok you're getting upset over semantics
>Isn't the entire point of this to counter NATO encirclement of Russia?
was that a statement from Russia? there could be many reasons why Russia would invade Ukraine
>Even if he somehow successfully keeps Ukraine out in perpetuity, he's dramatically increased thr chances of countries like Finland and Sweden joining
like what happened when Crimea went down
>I really fail to see how.
are you under the impression Russia would invade Ukraine and be surprised to be sanctioned? Sanctions are pretty much to go to finger wag in the current year.
>And what is he going to do with it?
does it matter?
Probably the same thing the USSR and Russian Empire and Polish Empire did with it
>He's already said that he won't occupy it
of course not the situation would look really bad if he didn't say that
>The Donbass Republics will probably gain some territory
like Crimea
>but the vast majority of the country will remain under the control of Kiev, and it would he very difficult to maintain a pro-Russian government there without an occupation.
doubt

 No.523652

Ukraine saying to use molotovs seems insane to me. Molotovs are ineffective weapons that will be met with lethal force

 No.523653

>>523638
Either there is a total solar eclipse in Ukraine or it's not now

 No.523654

>>523646
I wonder what are the 10 most popular spotify songs on ukraine rn.

 No.523655

>>523652
I bet the west wants to claim Russia's doing war crimes

 No.523656

>>523652
I mean that and handing out those guns is basically begging for a massacre as media spectacle. Absolutely ghoulish.

 No.523657

File: 1645807289136.jpg (340.51 KB, 2000x1125, THE TAKEAWAY ALLIANCE.jpg)

>>523182
I called for the One Struggle solution yesterday and was laughed off.
APOLOGIZE

 No.523658

>>523647
Really? That's what you notice? The Weekend song?

There's smoke and wreckage in that video

 No.523659

so is zelensky doing the mass mobilisation for the simple reason of delaying the end of the war for as long as possible so that maybe the sanctions and shit start hitting russia and one of the westoid countries might get a bit courageous and maybe drag nato into this for real?

 No.523660

>>523657
no
i don't believe the sanctions are real

 No.523661

>Kremlin: Kiev proposed talks in Warsaw but then broke off contact
what a baby

 No.523662

>>523652
Zelensky is not the sharpest tool in the shed.

 No.523663

>>523652
Meh, enough molotovs can probably kill even tanks

 No.523664

>>523656
Has this kind of thing happened before?
Any other state done this

 No.523665

>>523663
no, modern tanks can extinguish fires

 No.523666

From what I can gather from the more serious and objective analysis, Russia went light on the initial bombardment to avoid civilian casualties, hoping to make it easier to achieve surrender. However, no surrender is forthcoming, making that initial decision a mistake. With time for Ukraine to regroup and fortify positions, Russia will have to steamroll fortified urban positions full of civs, which have also been flooded with small arms. Basically guaranteed atrocities to come in the next few days.

 No.523667

>>523664
Germany during the end of WW2

 No.523668

>>523664
yes Hitler Germany. No joke and I dont mean that polemically. Thats the only state I know

 No.523669

Russia has been doing a pretty clean war if things turn grim I believe it's the comedians fault.

 No.523670

>>523643
Lol. Bringing stupid historical parallels to the whole new level

 No.523671

>>523663
Hell no. They'll just burn on the outside of them. They won't even disable armored soldiers.

 No.523672

>>523668
>>523667
VOLODOLF ZELENSKLER MOMENTTTTTT

 No.523673

>>523664
USSR in 1941

 No.523674

>>523653
Why? It’s past sundown now

 No.523675

>>523637
>>523644
>being brave is when you're a fool trying to do bravadoo
There's a reason they're losing

 No.523676

>>523665
More molotovs can fix that, but if people can throw enough molotovs to kill a tank it means the tank is fucked anyway because the infantry support isn't there anymore.

 No.523677

>>523672
Wanted to make that exact same comment

 No.523678

>>523673
What? No way, Really?

 No.523679

>>523676
sure maybe it works one out of 100 times with just a few douzen civilian casualities

 No.523680

>>523677
actually i prefer volodolf hitlensky

 No.523681

>>523659
Probably just throwing bodies too. Russia wants to change the government, the more people they have to kill the worse it looks for them and the better NATO looks. So Ukraine conscripts as many people as possible and tells them to go die pointlessly for the NATO optics.

 No.523682

>>523678
It was battle for Moscow, Nazis were very close. Very close.

 No.523683

>>523670
I'm not the guy who compared Zelensky to Allende but it's fun to push it all the way. Stupid historical parallels are everywhere now anyway, Putler Volkstrum etc

 No.523684

>>523528
> Isn't the entire point of this to counter NATO encirclement of Russia? Even if he somehow successfully keeps Ukraine out in perpetuity, he's dramatically increased thr chances of countries like Finland and Sweden joining
NTA but I still think it’s either he takes Ukraine as a piece off the table, or he leaves it to become another NATO state. The Baltic countries may have been lost already, but Ukraine wasn’t. Likewise, while this may have accelerated other countries joining, I somehow doubt this wouldn’t have happened over time as NATO encroachment continued. Meanwhile, Russia would be forced to sit on its hands and do nothing while the noose tightens.

 No.523685

>>523678
>>523682
Nazis were just going to kill everyone. They weren't like trying to avoid civilian casualties. Civilian casualties was a goal.

 No.523687

>>523620
I think if there's a stereotypical "tankie," it's someone like Putin (or his fans like Maupin) who ventriloquize Soviet aesthetics and nostalgia to push a chauvinist national project. That's an accusation that gets thrown at nostalgics in the former Soviet republics frequently, and at communists in the west, but when polled former Soviet citizens say they miss the economic system more than being part of an "empire."

Putin wants to have his cake and eat it too, which will never work. KPRF have become more emboldened in their opposition lately because state repression has shown they have nothing to lose.

>>523612
>>523617
I think this also helps explain a Chinese perspective I've encountered. There was an emperor in the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms era whose nickname was the "Emperor of Opera." Instead of focusing on the governance and politics of the country, he was more interested in being an actor in classic Chinese operas. Thus, he ended up a joke and was killed in a rebellion. Due to Confucianism, bad governance is the most politically incorrect thing in Chinese political philosophy, like dictatorship in American political philosophy. So from this perspective, Ukraine situation is mainly due to its own wrongdoing for having a clown running the country who wanted to become cannon fodder for the anti-Russia coalition.

Secondly, Uncle Sam is doing the same in Asia to encircle the PRC through setting up the stage and acting like a drama queen, maintaining military bases, drills, backing up regional powers, sponsoring separatists and terrorist rebels, stopping the country from unifying with Taiwan, and so forth. So, the Chinese can understand how the Russians feel when NATO is approaching Moscow, while the U.S., after having been given a free pass, messes around the world like a fuckboy, plays divide and conquer, "cares" about the affairs of other countries more than the locals do like a big fat Karen, gives "lectures" about values from a particular set of values, and even cuckolds his own little brothers in Europe and Asia. So if Ukraine wants to be a part of this, good luck and God bless and Godspeed, but don't expect the Chinese to help them.

 No.523688

>>783089
why they lose tho?

 No.523689

when was there the most recent battle on this scale, Iraq 2003?

 No.523690

>>523688
multiple weaker armies

 No.523691

>>523688
hard to fight the entire world at once

 No.523692

>>523688
They were cringe and gay.

 No.523693

File: 1645807769930.png (67.46 KB, 479x550, uk.png)

>>523629
But the polack tea was fucking great though

 No.523694

>>523686
Russia needs to fuckin chill, how much of a Navy does Ukraine even have

 No.523695

>>523694
It was taken in 2014 during Crimea lol

 No.523696

>>523690
so they sucked

>>523691
shit planning, they didnt have to fight the war that way

gtfo /pol/acks

 No.523697

>>523637
yes it takes balls to force citizens to fight a lost war in order to stall it as much as possible so you and your corrupt clique can have a chance to negotiate to maintain your power

 No.523698

>>523688
they were literaly autistic and thought if they just had an even heavier tank that had even bigger guns everbody would bow, completely forgetting about the costs of them and even more importantly that they have absolutely no gasoline stored anymore. Still they were pretty stunning, but not this once upon world history level

 No.523699

File: 1645807845110.mp4 (1.14 MB, 464x848, 3338028712384637305.MP4)

>>523638
Seems a fuel depot was hit

 No.523700

>>523696
>the nazis were bad at fighting because I dislike them
please go back to twitter

 No.523701

>>523651
> was that a statement from Russia
He’s right. That was one of the bigger issues.

>Here is the explanation of the diplomatic breakdown. Basically, the rights for countries to democratically choose to join NATO are supposed to be tempered by the security concerns created for nearby countries by the act of joining NATO. This just means that countries shouldn't be able to join NATO just to gang up on a non-NATO country, even if their precious democratic processes have decided to do so. These conditions for joining NATO have been internationally agreed on, but NATO is not only ignoring these conditions in their communications, it is citing older agreements that had none of these conditions. It is trying to bury the more recent agreements and ignore those conditions and focus on the country's right to join if they have an acceptable democracy and choose to. (Ukraine btw does not have real democracy and probably wouldn't be a part of NATO for decades anyways.)


>Q: Has Moscow forwarded to the U.S. side the answers to their written materials sent in connection with Russia's proposals on security guarantees? What was the subject of today's phone conversation with E. Blinken? What contacts are you planning to have in that regard?


>Sergey Lavrov: Today we heard some reports from the State Department saying that there was supposedly a response from Moscow to the document the Americans sent in response to our initial offer on security guarantees in Europe.


>There is a misunderstanding here. When we received the U.S. reaction about a week ago, we started studying it. It was immediately clear that the Americans preferred to concentrate on discussing the important, but secondary issues in their own way: whether it was impossible to agree on mutual non-deployment of striking weapons, including intermediate-range and shorter-range land-based missiles, which were previously covered by the New START Treaty, which the US destroyed, transparency in exercises, measures to prevent unforeseen incidents between combat planes and ships, and other such confidence-building steps.


>On the key issue that prompted us to take initiatives with the United States and the North Atlantic alliance, the response has been negative. I am referring to our demand that everyone implement in good faith the OSCE's 1999 Istanbul and 2010 Astana agreements on the indivisibility of security. These agreements stipulate not only freedom of choice of alliances, but also condition this freedom on the need to avoid any steps that would strengthen the security of any state at the expense of the security of others. On this key issue we have seen in the reactions of both the United States and NATO an extremely negative attitude. They are focusing solely on the principle of freedom of choice of alliances, completely ignoring the condition that was agreed at the highest level on the inadmissibility of infringing on the security of other states in doing so.


>We are also concerned that other NATO countries, for example France, recently said through its Foreign Minister that they insist on the need to ensure security on the basis of the documents, which preceded the Istanbul Charter and the Astana Declaration. At the same time it cites the document of the Paris OSCE summit of 1990, in which there was no requirement not to strengthen their security at the expense of the security of others. In other words, our Western colleagues are simply trying not even to ignore this key principle of international law agreed on in the Euro-Atlantic area, but to consign it to oblivion. To prevent this from happening, when we received the reaction from Washington to our initial proposals, I described in detail what we are now talking about in a separate message and sent it to all the foreign ministers of OSCE states and a number of other states so that they knew our position.


>Today I have confirmed to Secretary of State Blinken that we will not allow the topic to be muddled. We will insist on an honest talk and explanation why the West does not want to fulfill its obligations or only selectively and in its favor. Mr. Blinken agreed there is something to talk about. Let's see how things go. At this stage, we are completing the interagency coordination of proposals on other issues that we have received from the United States. We will report them to our president.


https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/1796663/

 No.523703

>>523699
this looks like >>523638 first vid

 No.523704


 No.523705

I just woke up. Can someone spoonfeed me and tell me if anything's happened? Is this going to last a long time? How long do we figure?

 No.523706

>>523700
they were bad cause they lost
the greatest military on earth were either the macedonians under alexander or the mongols under genghis khan bc they actually managed to win their wars.

 No.523707

>>523702
Based if true.

 No.523708

>>523705
> Is this going to last a long time?
Probably no.

 No.523709

>>523702
cant Russia stfu at least until this war is done. wtf is wrong with them, is the nation on coke or what?

 No.523710

>>523700
they were bad at fighting because they lost retard

 No.523711

>>523700
Nazis were idiots bad at fighting because they lost, don't begin a fight you can't win is rule 1.

 No.523712

File: 1645807964203-1.jpg (172.63 KB, 1200x675, 22398124_0.jpg)

>>523705
NATO is intervening.

 No.523713

>>523658
It's a catchy song

 No.523714

>>523705
it will be over quick by the first of the month

 No.523715

>>523706
relative to their time periods
>>523711
>>523710
excellent analyses

 No.523716

>>522959
Hoxha was so fucking based there's not even competition

 No.523717

>>523702
based anti-imperialist putin putting those imperialist finns in their place

 No.523718

>>523716
It's good that you know that Hoxha was based. Too bad he lost in the end.

 No.523719

>>523712
No way dude. They are insane if they do

 No.523720

>>523712
They wouldn’t dare, would they?

 No.523721

>>523719
I think they dont speak about Russia but say the border in Romania

 No.523722

>>523719
They'll appear weak if they don't. Welcome to geopolitical realities, enjoy your ride to escalation toward world war 3

 No.523723

>>523712
Amazing.

 No.523724

>>523719
It would be extremely base and an_heropilled

 No.523725

>>523712
Your really misreading that headline they will be deployed in Nato countries to protect them not in Ukraine

 No.523726

Can NATO send say a group of central European nations and the Baltics and tell them if you proceed article 5 doesn't continue with you? Or is article 5 something you can't willing choose to ignore?

 No.523727

>>523721
that makes more sense

 No.523728

>>523726
Did you read article 5?

 No.523729

Where's the new thread, Ukrainian drivers edition?

 No.523730

>>523688
They crossed the Soviet ubermensch

 No.523731

>Russia says it will partially or entirely ban Facebook, which put restrictions on four major Russian-language media outlets just yesterday, and more than a dozen over the past year, without offering any explanation or reason
From RT correspondent Murad Gazdiev

 No.523733

>>523731
>>523731
Fcken finally

 No.523734

>>523731
Yeah, they stated that "Facebook violates human rights" which is… true, just look at what they did in Myanmar

 No.523735

>>523731
Based.

 No.523736

>>523731
Fucking YES

 No.523737

>>523731
good
fuck social media

 No.523738

>>523730
Killed like 20-25 million tho, rip heroes

 No.523739

>>783152
NEW THREAD
>>783152

 No.523740

>>523731
Unironically based. Fuck the zucc

 No.523741

>>523101
>>go to the truck
>>grab a free assault rifle and shotgun
>>just go home and keep them
>>profit

heres the catch
they dont show the part were they dont let you go home anymore and send you to guard some oligarchs mansion while hes packing his things

 No.523742

One of those things that random Ukrainians on twitter mention but nobody else does is that MEN 18-60 cannot leave the country. People are trying to send their families away to avoid fighting and have to separate at the border because none of the men can leave.

 No.523743

>>523731
MULTIPOLAR SOCIAL MEDIA HERE WE COME

>Western liberal social media led by the Silicon Valley giants

>Russian social media (vk)
>The Great Chinese Firewall

 No.523744

>>522998
why even at this moment there are still people doing their normal activities? like driving around with a foreign tank in the opposite direction of the road as usual.
If it were my country and I could not get out of the city, I simply do not leave my house, even less if already are military vehicles on the streets like tanks that do not stop at the red light.

 No.523745

>>523743
> >Russian social media (vk)
Nazi shithole to be honest

 No.523746

>>523731
Im still baffled tech illiterate countries think Twitter and YouTube are any better even though they are official moderated by an U.S. government agency at this point

 No.523747

File: 1645808592918.jpg (352.99 KB, 1007x901, 18 60.jpg)

>>523742
US state affiliated media shills call them volunteers

 No.523748

>>523743
too bad the first already has its foothold on most of the developing world

 No.523750

>>523743
What about things like fediverse which is "multipolar" by design?

 No.523751

>>523747
>no masks
>no social distancing
NOOOOOOOOOOO

 No.523752

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KyivNotKiev#:~:text=Its%20goal%20is%20to%20persuade,the%20wider%20campaign%20%22CorrectUA%22.

Anyone remember the English spelling of the city being Kiev? Did I get mandela'd?

 No.523753

>>523750
that's the real answer but no one uses it

 No.523754

>>523747
These are volunteers, real mass mobilization will come later

 No.523755

>>523012
fucking degenerated glowie weebs

 No.523756

>>523749
>They are advanced cavalry assault forces. WTF would they be brought up?
The 82nd Airborne is one of the U.S. military's units designed to be able to deploy very rapidly – like Russian VDV essentially. They can move within 24-48 hours basically. The 82nd is based in North Carolina. There's also the 101st Airborne in Kentucky and the 173rd Airborne Brigade in Italy. These troops seem to be headed for Romania and the Baltic states.

 No.523757

>>523752
Wikipedia shamelessly glows

 No.523758

>>523673
>Sauce or didn't happen

 No.523759

>>523686
>Not muh hecking merchant shipinos!

 No.523760

>>523752
It's a propaganda campaign by the Ukrainian Ministry of Foreign Affairs called #CorrectUA.

https://mfa.gov.ua/en/correctua
https://www.facebook.com/CorrectUA

 No.523761

File: 1645809291665.mp4 (5.25 MB, 1280x720, 1630709614575-1.mp4)

>>523688
Not enough tanks, unlike chad Soviet Übermenschen

 No.523762

My theory currently is that all this volksturm shit is not done for military purpose but just to flood Ukraine with firearms in an attempt to make it unmanageable

 No.523763

I hope this will be unmanageable for Putin.

 No.523764

File: 1645809510181.jpg (523.55 KB, 1200x844, FMcsvJNWUAUrgIE.jpg)

Map from this guy. Arrows added for what I think the Russians are doing.

https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/status/1497214653256118272

 No.523765

>>523709
This ^ tbh

 No.523766

>>523763
I hope you will continue to cope and seethe.

 No.523767

>>523709
> is the nation on coke
You won't believe…

 No.523768

File: 1645809646427.jpg (1.1 MB, 1610x1133, China condemns NATO.jpg)

>>523182
>>523187
>>523190
>>523192
>>523197
>>523199
>>523206
>>523226
>>523238
>>523243
>>523242
>>523249
>>523267
>>523273
>>523282
>>523286
>>523291
>>523383
>>523412
>>523424
>>523429
>>523431
>>523459
>>523461
>>523473
>>523657
>US state controlled media
>two people familiar with the matter said China bad to Russia
>uhh ohh fellow leftist I am feeling so upset betrayed and confused about this!
>uhh ohh fellow leftist I am feeling so upset betrayed and confused about this!
>uhh ohh fellow leftist I am feeling so upset betrayed and confused about this!
>uhh ohh fellow leftist I am feeling so upset betrayed and confused about this!
>uhh ohh fellow leftist I am feeling so upset betrayed and confused about this!
>uhh ohh fellow leftist I am feeling so upset betrayed and confused about this!
>…
Yeah like U.S. media said China betrayed Russia when China told NATO to fuck off

You glow

 No.523769

>>522959
sauce?

 No.523770


It's questionable how the Russians are supposed to take the city. Their hardware is less effective in urban combat, and they're up against a very large number of motivated defenders with local knowledge. Brute-forcing his way through might not work.

For the sake of perspective, a few thousand Chechen insurgents managed to hold their capital, Grozny for two months; a city of 300 thousand against the Russian army.

 No.523771

>>523712
It's ogre, comrades. Time to bunker!

 No.523772

>>523542
I wonder how many were in those burning things in the video. Were some of them still alive at that moment? Perhaps listening to the same music?

 No.523773

>>523770
> Brute-forcing his way through might not work.
It would work. Russians took Grozny eventually.

 No.523774

>>523182
Real Baelish hours

 No.523775

>>523731
unironically based

>>523746
>tech illiterate countries
What? Their porkies are fine with US gatekrrping their information, and their peoples are as ignorant of the process as all other peoples.

 No.523776

>>523762
yeah, it look more like they want to get bad optics for russia than protect their populations. Who the fuck gives weapons to civilians after two days of open conflict ?

 No.523777

>>523762
That's probably NATO's current goal tbh, now that their vluff of helping Ukraine has fallen through.

 No.523778

>>523770
>a very large number of motivated defenders
giving AK to civilians doesnt make them "motivated defenders". Also, the whole point is forcing a surrender, they just need to siege it medieval style if they dont wanna bomb the shit out of it.

 No.523779

Will they make Sarajevo or Grozny out of Kiev

 No.523780

>>523712
lolno, unless deploying troops in romania is supposed to help ukraine

 No.523781

>crop start
>crop end
>reduce resolution to 240p
>go to twitter
>RUSSIAN COLUMN BTFO OVER 9000 KILLS

 No.523782

File: 1645810616766-0.png (929.77 KB, 1200x675, 1637845108477.png)

Lol

 No.523783

>>523742
Mens liberation when

 No.523784

>>523764
>Julian Roepcke
lmao gtfo

 No.523785

>>523182
>dollars only sanctions
that look like its just the US sanction and ppl dont understand how global economy works. China and russia dont use dollars to trade with each other

 No.523786

>>523178
>bunch of moronic western "useful idiots" on here who still somehow think its not a full invasion even though it is.
thats straight up a nato talking poitn. fuck off faggot.
>yeah lets totally ignore nato role in the escalation, and their pet nazis that kept bombing and threatening to retake dombass

 No.523787

>>523742
Mens liberation when

>>522959
I wish Hoxha lived to stop the revisionists

 No.523788

"They didn't give us other choice. #WeAreUnited" billboard in St. Petersburg

 No.523789

>>523586
ukraine never did the slightest move toward federalism and kept bombing the republics. Both minsk agreement were forced by russia counter attack after ukraine tried to crush the republics. I think zelensky would have been shot by his local nazis if he had tried to federalize. At least I hope, because if he did willingly, its entirely on him.

 No.523790

>>523778
NATO shills are doing everything to glorify dying for some oligarchs who have long moved their belongings to West Europe and America.

 No.523791

I'm hungry :(

 No.523792

>>523221
>>523224
they gona kill europe but only the poors europeans

Disconnecting them is only the decision of the us, europe and other countries have no say in this, they are not going to suffer the consequences and the priority for the us is to maintain confidence in the dollar.
taking russia out of the system will help them.


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