Kiev being taken edition.
this is where I pretend to link to relevant information:
1) nobody cares
2) Kiev about to fall.
Embrace [Redacted because OP got the number so catastrophically wrong, everyone laugh at OP]
Deal with it.
>>526605>The estimate there was 3:1 for Ukrainians but they could beat the 10:1 Finnish olympic kill ratio in winter warfare.Things that never happened being compared to things that never happened.
>>526579Seconded.
>>526583you know they only have to run this shit because of the 24/7 psyop theyve been running for years now
>>526605I imagine these kill-ratio memes are popular in German/Nazi collaborationist states
>>526614How did they even get in Chernobyl?
I thought it was still irradiated.
>>526626IDK I just want to see tanks rolling around the area
As of yesterday Belarusian forces were securing it
>>526605>>526620https://www.revolutionarydemocracy.org/archive/molot1940.htm
>The war in Finland has exacted heavy sacrifices both from us and from the Finns. According to estimates of our General Staff, on our side the number killed and those who died of wounds was 48,745, or somewhat less than 49,000 men, and the number wounded 158,863. Attempts are being made on the part of the Finns to minimise their losses, but their casualties were considerably bigger than ours. Our General Staff places the number of Finnish killed at not less than 60,000, without counting those who died of wounds, and the number wounded at not less than 250,000. Thus, considering that the strength of the Finnish army was not less than 600,000 men, one must admit that the Finnish army lost in killed and wounded over one-half its total strength. Such are the facts. >>526646See this
>>526639 My source is better because it's not about territory.
My predictions for this conflict (reposted from last thread);
>russia successfully takes kiev and eastern ukraine
>guerrillas hold out in the west, but belarus tries their best to put down any resistance in the hopes of gaining territory
>russia questions whether donetsk and luhansk should become part of the russian federation, but putin chooses to help them rebuild ukraine and establish a more legitimate government, the peoples republics combine to form novorossiya to make occupation easier
>rather than occupying all of ukraine, russia takes coastal states and focuses mostly on helping the friendly governments hold onto the territory and put down rebels. Rebels, being forced to fight a coalition of countries attempting to expand their territories, have trouble organizing themselves and engage in petty terrorist acts rather than maintaining strong resistance
>russia threatens finland that the same will happen to them if they threaten to join nato. Finland questions whether it should join for fear of a war, the people and the government differ in opinion, unrest ensues because the government continues to try to undemocratically decide on behalf of the finnish people whether the nation should join nato
>russia, belarus and novorossiya takes control of ukrainian pipelines and rather than relying on nordstream 2, which is cancelled, simply uses ukrainian pipelines to trade with EU countries.
>the US, fearful of russian economic dominance, lobbies very strongly against trade with russia. All attempts are made to institute sanctions, kick russia from SWIFT, and arm/fund ukrainian opposition groups against russia
>putin, dealing with unrest in the ukrainian occupied regions, as well as dissatisfaction with his invasion, faces a growing communist movement. Western sanctions worsen this; communists claim that nationalizing industries and de-dollarizing is necessary to evade sanctions and continue economic growth. The KPRF seeks a non-dollar-reliant national central banking system which is capable of trading with china and immediate neighbors without being forced to rely on the USA's currency or the SWIFT banking system.
>russia becomes the world's biggest hermit kingdom, surpassing north korea in economic and military strength. Due to sanctions and removal from trade organizations and banking systems, russia relies on trade with friendly governments. CSTO expansionism enters full swing. The Shanghai Cooperation Organization grows in strength. Russia, facing unfeiendly behavior by the west and europe, focuses all its might on incentivizing european countries to trade with it, while also focusing heavily on regime change in the middle east, central asia and south asia
<alternative possibility -
>TRANSNISTRIA TAKES OVER ALL OF UKRAINE, ESTABLISHES THE SOVIET UNION 2.0, INVADES TURKEY AND MOLDOVA, AND TAKES OVER ALL OF THE MEDITERRANEAN
https://twitter.com/mutahmett/status/1497306530273800192Around 80 Russian tanks moved towards Kiev. Artillery fire started. If the Ukrainian army resists tonight, everything will be different.
Location: Hostomel
BUT I THOUGHT UKROPS HAVE SECURED HOSTOMEL??????????????????????? OH NO ZELENSKY BROS… HAVE WE GOT TOO COCKY???
>>526650Shay with the fire analysis
I like it
Facebook Allows Praise of Neo-Nazi Ukrainian Battalion If It Fights Russian Invasion<The reversal raises questions about Facebook’s blacklist-based content moderation, which critics say lacks nuance and context.https://theintercept.com/2022/02/24/ukraine-facebook-azov-battalion-russia/[…]
According to internal policy materials reviewed by The Intercept, Facebook will “allow praise of the Azov Battalion when explicitly and exclusively praising their role in defending Ukraine OR their role as part of the Ukraine’s National Guard.” Internally published examples of speech that Facebook now deems acceptable include “Azov movement volunteers are real heroes, they are a much needed support to our national guard”; “We are under attack. Azov has been courageously defending our town for the last 6 hours”; and “I think Azov is playing a patriotic role during this crisis.”
The materials stipulate that Azov still can’t use Facebook platforms for recruiting purposes or for publishing its own statements and that the regiment’s uniforms and banners will remain as banned hate symbol imagery, even while Azov soldiers may fight wearing and displaying them. In a tacit acknowledgement of the group’s ideology, the memo provides two examples of posts that would not be allowed under the new policy: “Goebbels, the Fuhrer and Azov, all are great models for national sacrifices and heroism” and “Well done Azov for protecting Ukraine and it’s white nationalist heritage.”
In a statement to The Intercept, company spokesperson Erica Sackin confirmed the decision but declined to answer questions about the new policy.[…]
>>526690204 points Russia? LEWUUUUT?
Also, Israel… euro? lol
For the first time ever, the NATO Response Force has been activated as a defensive measure in response to Russia’s ongoing invasion of Ukraine.NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said Friday that the alliance still needed to do more to put pressure on the Kremlin to bring an end to military aggression in Ukraine.
"We must stand ready to do more, even if it means we have to pay the price, because we are in this for the long haul," he said. "We have to take this seriously, and that's exactly why we are now deploying the NATO response force for the first time in a collective defense context," he said.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/25/politics/nato-ukraine-russia/index.htmlhttps://twitter.com/NATO/status/1497290138296229890 >>526703lol phone numbers of random mod workers
you really did it this time hackerz
>>526709Maybe if NATO intervenes
Russia rescinded the USSR's no first use policy
>>526708Yeah, and they call it "saboteurs". Their army is full of nazis. They know that having civilians armed will cause Russian troops to kill them, instead of surrendering, they cause this, and also will cause this confussions, just to later on saying in the media they were saboteurs.
Truly spooky hours for the Ukrainian prole.
>>526741Nukes are fake
Just hyped up bs
>>526736This
Fuck doing anything anymore at that point.
omae wa mou shindeiru
>>526761Literally how disgusting the Ukrainian state is toward their own people. Child soldiers, mines, etc. etc.
May the Russians win a swift victory, hopefully very few civilians die and every oligarch and Azov pig is brought to justice.
>>526726>Typical fascist shitThey were warned for months, they were warned what would happen, they knew exactly what would happen when they say they wanted to have nukes, when they ramped up the attacks on Ukraine. They didn't listen.
They now plan to plain the victim on self-determination accusing of what exactly to Russia? and do not surrendering?
>@PressSecconfirms: "In alignment with the decision by our European allies, the United States will join them in sanctioning President Putin, Foreign Minister Lavrov and members of the Russian national security team."The extent of these is what matters, snactions can vary a lot from nothing burger to big
Let us see
https://twitter.com/Phil_Mattingly/status/1497312742545498114?s=20&t=ABRTzwTWeCJGpEBgO-ph7g >>526784Putin doesn't give a shit about sanctions, they could sanction him forever and he still wouldn't care.
He crossed the rubicon and now the only thing to do is keep going.
>>526783to show they dick is bigger. Which is what nukes is about.
Look the whole moab deal in Syria. They basically dropped a bomb in the desert.
Modern warfare is pyrotecnics such as these too especially when America is involved.
>>526789If they really go all out (which they are not since not touching all banking nor energy sector) Russia would feel the pain, they would be quite isolated like Cuba or NK. their strength is the have way more allies with those countries, way stronger military and a lot more cash on hand
China is going to be pivotal behind the scenes imo helping them out and flexing their muscle with their geopolitical pull if it comes down to that
>>526800Imperialist > nazis who use human shields and child soldiers
You lost this fucking info war glowuyghur, take the L
>>526842Yeah it's from 2017 as you posted right now
The other tweet was fake tying it to Ukraine. Tweet never existed
>>526847which is just the theologically approved way of saying
>no good guysOr when what the pope says.
>>526849Oh no no no
They're gonna get buttfucked by VDV and Chechens coming up from Kherson
You don't just avoid a hammer and anvil like that. Their only hope is to strip their uniforms and hide in a barn.
>>526847Have you left your armchair to distribute the leaflets?
Seems no.
>>526841Critical support to de-nazificate and put the bullet on the heads of the nazis.
>>526861Will post you some pictures so you can as-reee moar.
>>526879Support putin and want to eliminate Ukraine cause "muh globohomo" and to them Putin is fighting Klaus Schwab and NWO
Same as patriots.win, they hate Ukraine and shit all over it
>>526887Every minute in Idlib 60 seconds pass
Why would Assad do this?
>>526841Everybody with a brain is in favor of the quick and bloodless (to civs) resolution of this war, which can only come through Russian victory.
And don't even say it's because of muh russian borbaganda or we hate the west or whatever.
In this information war, the Ukrainians kicked the ball into their own goal so many fucking times.
>>526898Yep and it makes even worse for Ukraine for people on /Pol/ cause he's Jewish
So even more reason to hate him for them in their world view. You'll see that all over when he's mentioned
>>526915 (me)
>>526886 (me)
>Critical support to de-nazificate and put the bullet on the heads of the nazis. Usa military analyst responding to this. He's done good job covering the movements
>My report on day two of the war. Not the blitzkrieg that the Kremlin seemed to have hoped for, and Ukrainian resistance has been impressive. But be wary of firm conclusions. Half of Russian combat power not yet committed & Kyiv not yet seriously tested.His reply
>I'd go a bit further and say we've seen quite less than half or even a third of the forces involved.https://twitter.com/KofmanMichael/status/1497319031862448129?s=20&t=3-MIBsFOOIYz41Y2vuxTWg>>526936Yikes
Zelensky the minimum wage janny
His net worth probably doesn't even compare to the oligarchs who control him.
>>526937You (cringeworthily): this is like Voldemort sending in the death eaters!
Me: this is like the harkonnens sending in the sardaukar.
High-ranking Gazprom official died by suicide
https://www.fontanka.ru/2022/02/25/70472216I hope more will follow soon
>>5269791) This isn’t true, much of leftypol supported the Kazakh Uprising, for example
2) Even if it were, you act like it’d be unreasonable
>>526936Imagine selling out your country and now putting your own life at risk
and potentially starting the next world war for a monthly salary below what newly hired German warehouse workers get.
>>526988Shay, you’re the outlier here, I also supported the Kazakh protests, the vast majority of this board supported the Kazakh government
>>526989Proving my point Putinoid
If Russia had a working class uprising you would call it a CIA op and celebrate Putin putting it down, then you would make memes mocking actual communists for not shilling national chauvinism and anticommunism under the banner of “anti-America”
>>526976Germany is so cucked it's unreal. they're agreeing to impoverish their people just to obey US/EU's obsession with owning Putin.
They really need a strong leader who could rise up and restore the power and dignity of the German people and stand up to the other Western powers that have pushed them around and reduced them to such a sorry state. :-D
>>527007You don't.
Most people were supportive of the protests.
>>526998It's like Panama Airport in 1989 but actually badass
Too bad Russia won't have the budget for a COD: Black Ops 2 type recreation.
>>527004I was actually here when the protests were ongoing, you weren’t re-write history in my mind you disingenuous little cunt
I remember support for the Kazakh protests being the minority position, especially once Russia helped shut the down
>>527008Read what I wrote to the other rat above
>>527016You won’t gaslight me you gross little rat
I remember how the majority here actually reacted to the protests
You don’t yet have the power to decide official histories
>>526981Why do they kill themselves?
Can't make the profits?
>>527007I remember them as well, and I along with many others supported Kazakh protests and criticized westoid "anti-imperialists". This is a different situation yet again.
I mean, is this Ukranian workers protesting against "multi-vector" capital and domestic compradors?
>>527007>>527014go dig up the archive and count the posts then
even with the shitposts the majority supported the protesters. Only at the very start people were coming in like "wtf is going ? is it a color revolution ?"
the fact you invented a 'majority supported it' make you a schizo
>>527012You dare doubt the eternal universal applicability of Protracted People's War?
NAPAL
PERU
TURKEY
PHILIPPINES
Maybe you should stop being a Pabloite renegade all your life
>>526976Besides Russia, most of the pipelines that serve Europe run through Turkey, another country they aren't on good terms with. If Russia wins this conflict, Turkey will be incentiviezed to apply pressure, especially since their economy is in ruins right now
Is the whole plan here for Europe and the US to be forced to invest huge amounts of money into the infrastructure to ship LNG from the US to EU? Along the way shoring up the cost of oil by artificially restricting supply? Watch the infrastructure deal Biden signed get diverted to serving those ends
>>527016It was divided.
>>527020a fucking libtard lol, all that mixture of things ideologically incompatible.
>>527018CUTE>>527017Sire, the Kadyrovs were anti-Russia fighters back in the Chechen war.
>>527061The rebirth of the USSR is unironically in sight, it's genuinely exciting
>>527063In what universe is China not socialist?
>>527020>>527016>>527014The same people who support ukraine right now were the ones supporting the kazakhstan government over the protestors because they are nato glowies. Kazakhstan is friendly to both russia and the west, and is a centrist liberal government which exports energy to western countries. There are even american biolabs in kazakhstan.
On the other hand, ukraine outright begs nato for membership. Rather than attempting to maintain neutrality, ukraine, ever since the 2014 maidan coup, has outright been a puppet of western powers. Ukraine ceasing to exist is just as good for communists as protests in kazakhstan were. Unfortunately the kazakhstan protests died down for now.
>>527058Killing journalists
Putting people in jail because they publicly display affection near churches
>>527072The only "communists" oppressed are the fake ones, the official Communist Party is the second most powerful party in the country and is in a coalition with United Russia. Minorities are treated well provided they assimilate into Russia and dont blow themselves up like Jihadis, and you clearly dont understand imperialism if you think anything Russia has done counts as imperialism. De-nazification is the definition of anti-imperialism
>>527082And those are problems because?
>>527089So? Even if this were true, punishments for bourgeois immorality are hardly "reactionary", it was Stalin who introduced official laws against it after all.
>>527090>>527091Shut the fuck up western scum. Your "nation" is a fake shithole made up of criminals and social rejects, built on the backs of slaves and genocide and forces its bullshit "culture" of hedonism onto the entire world. None of this is remotely comparable to Russia, a natural nation who's people have lived there since time immemorium, with a productive population and a humble working class culture. That you would even compare the two is an insult to socialism and an insult to the Russian people.
>>527114Ah. It's one of these guys. Okay.
Stop.
>>527114>>527114Fuck off poltard
You'll never breed
>>527131An insult to the Borg to compare them to
that
>>527122>LET'S SANCTION A COUNTRY WHICH THE WORLD DEPENDS ON THEM IN SOME REGARDLiberal geniuses
<what about we let the SPACE station falls into the U.S.:iberals:
GASP >>527071>Oh, UFO anon, what do you mean Leftypol was siding with the Kazakh government in suppression of the protestors?Lmao
You nighas make this easy
>>527135No one here actually likes Putin, who shouldn't have escalated. Best that can be said about him is that a quick Russian victory's probably the fastest end to the war.
Then again media here isn't trying to paint him as a champion of democracy like it is the Ukrainian state
>>527157Those games are essential to the Russian gaming community
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. too, but you know what's happening to them
>>527187wooh yeah baby
now we are cooking with gas
>>527202Kek he's just gonna dip when they show up at the conference
Easy excuse to let him fly out of Ukraine without looking like a massive cuck and getting shot down by his own people
>>527209Reminder that Finland surrendered faster than Britain and France were able to send any real help to Finland. Reminder that Finland was forced to surrender via Voroshilov encirlcing entire finnish army and ordering the attack to close the pocket, that very same day peace happened.
Reminder that nazi losers routinely lied about their losses and inflated enemy casualties for propaganda purposes.
>>527239Bentley said there was some shelling that hit a house in Rostov oblast, but nothing huge.
I don't think they have the capability right now.
>>527221Russia wouldn't have to intervene in the Ukraine if the Germano-Polish enclave wasn't intent on genociding the native Russian people, backed by their NATO masters. So yes, it is their fault
>>527220Orientalist piece of shit. I guess racism is considered fine on this site now?
>>527262Being a communist is "glow" now?
Also I literally repeated your argument just changing 3 words, if it sounds like propaganda remember that its what you wrote, not me
>>527266>That's what Putin's supporters in this war believeWhere are the communist praxis in the west to weaken their lib states?
>>527231Stooge is pledging to orthodox dogmas that changed here, in our current worldview.. Even Lenin acknowledged that the revolution wouldn't succeed if they weren't adopting changes dialy. That was kautsky was a class traitor.
>>785101This
>>527237 and this
>>527246 and most people with HIV/AIDS are straight.
>>527301Damn I didn't know Michonne was a real person
Her pet zombies are just as braindead as in the show.
>>527300Master, what is it that I hear? Who are those people so defeated by their pain?
And he to me: “This miserable way is taken by the sorry souls of those who lived without disgrace and without praise.
They now commingle with the coward angels, the company of those who were not rebels nor faithful to their God, but stood apart.
The heavens, that their beauty not be lessened, have cast them out, nor will deep Hell receive them –
even the wicked cannot glory in them.”
>>527312Lenin literally overthrew his country
Rosa almost did as well
If Ukrainians did that you'd be crying for NATO to intervene right now.
>>527286No. It was co-opted by radlibs, but was a popular movement with a proletarian class character, despite the fact that it concerned itself with a lot of racial justice issues (that mostly coincided with economic agitation that white people in the US would benefit from as well).
The problem: no proletarian party leadership makes a movement vulnerable to the bourgeoisie
>>527297They're wiping the floor with the Ukrops. Their slow advance is probably to limit civilian casualties and hope for an internal resolution ie surrender or coup.
Reminder Russia has only sent in between 1/3 and 1/2 of the troops it has ready for invasion. It hasn't even mobilized properly.
>>527277>what does blm have to do with your post schizonta but it's the rabid worship of whatever the topic of virtue signalling is this week for liberals, no matter how cynical. The media machine says you will talk about this, and repeat these lines and to not display sufficient fervor is
heresy treason. The parallel is
The US could be making leather out of black people's skin and liberal media would continue using BLM as a cudgel unhindered.
The US is currently enacting their crocodile tears routine with anything less than uncritical NATO support being treason, and it's
'the US who have crafted this whole situation, escalated and done their best to make every single bit of misery happen.
>>527170>No one here actually likes Putin, who shouldn't have escalated. There is a good chance that after the current US puppet regime in Kiev is broken that Putin will pull back to the Donbass region and the left over part of the Ukraine will get a somewhat democratic government with at least some degree of autonomy. Chances are that Moscow will just enforce security insurances: no NATO and no US intelligence arming any Azovs. At least in that case we will count this as liberation, and Putin gets good guy points.
>Best that can be said about him is that a quick Russian victory's probably the fastest end to the war. This war that was started by the US in 2014, and so far it looks like you'll get your Russian victory because Ukrainian forces are even weaker than anybody thought.
>>527337>>527346 (me)
and if you simp for smol business tyrants, then you are not a communist
>>527298Call it for what it is: burgerization
Quite frankly, the homogenization part I don’t care about. But the fact it’s burgershit is just catastrophic
>>527339In your radlib american classes he stole it. What the fuck you are talking about. I'm not even sure dante even knew about confucius.
Plus what he stole? He just said a similar thing.
>>527363leninhat antivax was right all along?
is he pro-Putin now?
>>527372>LAWS… LE GOOD!you will
NEVER be a leftist
>>527292yea man, like if no ever larpers existed in communists movements.
picrel
>>527396You know it by heart, lol.
>You haven't paid for occupation of Hobbitland yet!<That was the Empire of 1000 Years Night. We are a young 20 years old country of Goblin Federation>Lies! You just changed fronts!And so on and so forth
>>526828I think this guy also supported the glowie protests in Cuba. I've heard quite the opposite anyways with polls showing that Russians who miss the USSR mostly do so because of economic reasons and much less so because of the "empire."
>>526849My speculation is that a lot of the fireworks we heard along the Donbass line of contact on the first day were an attempt to "fix" Ukrainian positions there while the maneuver elements from Crimea and around Kharkov moved behind them in a pincer movement. That would encircle the Ukrainian troops facing Russian and DPR/LPR forces in Donbass and cut them off.
>>527297>>527327Russian military doctrine also accepts higher casualties than is acceptable in Western armies. The point is to drive hard and "get onto the objective" even if the cost is most of the initial forces getting wiped out with the expectation that they'll be replaced with fresh reserves that pulverize the enemy which has always been worn down from the initial fighting. The setbacks that the Russians are facing are part of their overall strategy.
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