No.538130
War time
No.538134
LANDLOCKED UKRAINE WHEN!!!
No.538138
what's the consensus leftypol, im hearing putler and his forces have got bogged down with no chance of reaching their objectives? is this going to turn more into Iran/iran in the 80s?
No.538139
>>538138what youre hearing is 90% ukrainian copeaganda
No.538140
>>538138No, Iran is a natural fortress and Ukraine is "flat as a tomboy" as someone said earlier
No.538141
>>538138Ukraine just reached the Urals, it's over for putinbros
No.538142
>>538139thanks I wasn't sure
No.538143
>>538138Russia will take Kiev soon
No.538144
>>538133I can't tell if this is meant to be porn or cringe but I have an aversion to it
No.538146
>>538138Russian doctrine is the same as Soviet doctrine. It's being carried out to the letter now
No.538148
Lvov needs to be nuked before this is over
No.538149
>>538138its ogre for putler
No.538150
>>538148Reminder that it's called Lutsk
No.538153
>>538150isn't it pronounce "lol wow"
No.538154
>Putin will chair an emergency meeting with his cabinet and the central bank later today after sanctions “significantly changed Russia’s economic reality,” the Kremlin says.
>“These are heavy sanctions, they're problematic, but Russia has the potential to compensate the damage.”https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1498242274756550665?s=20&t=cVQm7XIxLVB_t-SaJRXdhAFT
No.538155
>>538152>>538151Completely irrelevant, those negotiations are bound to fail.
No.538156
The real tragedy in this war is redditors being freaking epic
No.538157
>>800707
Thanks for the article. It was a good read.
No.538161
>>538154Who will push the communism button first, Putin or Xi?
No.538163
>>538158imagine putin uses this as an excuse to nationalizethe oligarchs
No.538164
>>538161critical support for comrade Putilla the Hun in his struggle against european neofeudalism
No.538165
>>538137AGE RESTRICTED. YOUTUBE WANTS MY FUCKING CREDIT CARD. FUCK THAT SHIT.
No.538167
>>538164t. yannis varofakis
No.538168
>>538138Consensus is "it's too hard to tell, don't trust Ukraine propaganda." Western sources (think tanks) that seem to indicate russia is doing well compared to Ukraine are more trust worthy.
No.538169
>>538151>>538152Yo, fire up the cytube!
No.538170
>>538151>>538152>>538159https://tv.leftypol.org/r/temphttps://tv.leftypol.org/r/temphttps://tv.leftypol.org/r/tempNegotiations cytube. I don't know if there will be English translators. They're just silently dicking around right now.
No.538174
>>538152they're not actually going to broadcast the negotiations are they? that seems insane
No.538177
>>538174whats even funnier is that ukraine requested them and if they now walk away they are going to make fools out of themselves
No.538178
>>538163The oligarchs and the army asking Putin politely to "retire" is more likely
No.538180
>>538174I was under the assumption it wouldn't be televised too.
No.538182
>>538170>430k viewersdamn
No.538183
>>538180if you broadcast sensitive negotiations it could change their outcome as people play to cameras. seems nuts
No.538184
>>538174>they're not actually going to broadcast the negotiations are they?I would never expect it but they set up a livestream so who fucking knows at this point.
>that seems insaneYeah. It does.
No.538185
>>538177Sure, Ukraine would surely request negotiations on an enemy's ally territory
No.538186
>>538181THIS IS… RUNNING ON EMPTY, DOOOOCTRINE REVIEW!
No.538187
>>538179They're learning, though.
>pray it's not ours…Hahaha
No.538189
>>538177I'm not sure, I have never seen such high propaganda levels in the west since at least Iraq 2003, all the normalfags and Redditors are convinced putlet is satan and Ukraine can do nothing wrong
No.538192
>>538188Red Napoleon. Theorized "deep battle", executed as a traitor in the Great Purge, wildly ahead of his time.
No.538193
>>538175Ukrainian propaganda
No.538194
>>538188Stalin was a fool.
The man in the pictures was the greatest military mind of the last 200 years and a russian victory will add another bloody vindication to hia legacy.
No.538195
>>538160>They do take higher casualties than Western armies, which is the tradeoff of being so aggressiveIf this were a western war they would have kept bombing troops, bases and ukrainian cities to rubble for a few weeks and only then they would have decided to send proper ground troops. Even if there is no such thing as a humane war, the NATO style warfare never puts much emphasis on civilian lives. it's all about minimising your losses.
No.538197
>>538191kek Russian porkies are being pegged by those red dildoes
No.538199
>>538172>some people (who shall not be named) thought cavalry was better than thisWho?
No.538201
>>538175based on what i've seen, they are 80% "saboteurs"
No.538202
Hahaha, a real time translation of negotiations was cut down by ukrainian side.
No.538203
>>538192>>538194Interesting. Thanks.
No.538204
If leftypol was around in 1943, you jackasses would be commenting on the Soviet counteroffensive like
>Oh no, are they losing guys?
>STALINBROS WE GO TOO COCKY
>Why hasn't the Red Army captured Berlin in 24 hours? We're fucked.
No.538205
>>538202live cast? Forgetting what's it called in english all the time
No.538206
>>538204You realize these are NATO shills, right?
No.538208
>>538205stream/livestream
No.538209
>>538206Literally noone here supports NATO
The arguments fall in line of if to support Russia or if to be on sidelines against the war
No.538210
>>538200>Budyonny was a staunch proponent of horse cavalry. During the Great Purge, he testified against Mikhail Tukhachevsky's efforts to create an independent tank corps, claiming that it was so inferior to cavalry and illogical that it amounted to "wrecking" (sabotage). After being told of the importance of the tank in the coming war in 1939, he remarked, "You won't convince me. As soon as war is declared, everyone will shout, "Send for the Cavalry!"[2]Wew lad
No.538211
>>538195i'm old enough to remember watching the Iraq invasion unfold on tv. they bombed the fuck out of baghdad and lots of other place for a while before any ground troops even came in. then the ground troops slowly made their way to Baghdad from the north and south. This went on for many days before they got to (a totally bombed) Baghdad.
The Russians did something like it here on the first night. It looked like the opening Iraq "shock and awe", but it didn't last nearly as long, and then the Russians immediately starting marching in ground troops.
No.538214
>>538207>>Russians shell citiesProofs. Putin said that Russia doesn't harm civilian infrastructure, how can there be civilian casualties while all targets are of military nature?
No.538215
>>538214>Putin said that Russia doesn't harm civilian infrastructureTrusting politicians lol
No.538216
>>538214Putin also said he wouldn't invade Ukraine.
No.538217
>>538210budyonny was a certified boomer retard
No.538219
The best outcome from these sanctions would be Russia seizing assets from sanctioning nations which would in turn cause those nations to seize Russian property.
Unfortunately they'd probably just turn around and sell the seized property to more billionaires.
No.538220
>>538210>>538217also
>amounted to sabotage>budyonny from a cossack familywhats up with them and sabotage lmao
No.538221
>>538219I like appropriating private property now!
No.538222
>>538216Ukraine attacked Russia first, do you remember repelled Ukrainian assalut in Rostov oblast and bombing of Russia before the recognition?
No.538223
>>538219No, the best outcome is purging the billionaires in Russia and creating USSR 2.
No.538224
>>538197There are plenty of other nationalities, tho.
Germany has a vast and large investment in farms in Russia, for example.
No.538225
>>538217And what's worse, Stalin approved of Tukhachevsky's execution and placed Budyonny in charge of the southwestern (Ukrainian) front in time for Barbarossa.
No.538226
>>538214>how can there be civilian casualties while all targets are of military nature?bombs don't always go exactly where you target them, and you can have incorrect intel about where to target. if you're doing bombing in a populated area, there's going to be civilian casualties.
No.538229
>>538215anyone watching this conflict can see how hands off russia has been so far. they have air superiority now they could easily do americas shock and awe terror bombing but they haven't, you have to ask yourself why not.
No.538230
>>538190Was Hunter Biden-Ukraine a right wing conspiracy theory or something real?
No.538231
>>538222Nope. Source/proof?
No.538232
>>538221Yes, you're on leftypol in case you've forgotten.
No.538233
>>538223the head of state is a billionaire, likely the richest billionaire in the world
why would he do that?
No.538235
>>538233Material conditions.
No.538236
>>538225We all make mistakes :)
No.538237
>>538226No, they go exactly where you target them. Russia's bombing khokhols in the holes they hide in, though, like in that cinema nazis hid in in Chernigov. Other recent pics was a huge ass barracks building which housed soldiers
No.538238
>>538221>I like appropriating private property now!YES
No.538239
>>538228Won't save Ukraine, tho.
No.538242
>>538221Haha nationalizing Western capitals is the 10 out of 10 response every communist will support
No.538243
>>800976
Because you are brainwashed by Azov propaganda
No.538244
everyone's saying ussr 2.0 when clearly china and russia are going to unite in a communist federation. the only question is who annexes who
No.538245
Why won't khabib go fight for Russia?
All these famous boxers will fight for Ukraine
No.538246
>>538214Ukrainians are placing their artillery in neighbourhoods they haven't evacuated.
Remember, the Ukrainian government and their Army did not evacuate the population. The order was always "stay and fight", people have been leaving on their own. That is why the cities are still populated. That is why the Russian army isn't just barraging the cities for a day and then moving it. This is what Ukraine and their puppet masters want, videos and pictures of dead civilians, which is why they're being told to throw molotovs. If you throw a molotov and get killed, there is no rifle next to you to identify you as a combatant. If Russia wanted to conquer Ukraine, they could, they are trying to avoid killing people and want to get rid of Zelenskyy, his government and the Nazi elements in army and police. Putin has already told the Ukrainian military to seize control from Zelenskyy and then negotiate with him.
No.538247
>>538244Obviously China tops.
No.538249
>>538234Shit trigger discipline though
No.538250
>>538244USSR 2 = unites states socialist republics.
Russia will keep being a capitalist oligarchy.
China and the new socialist USA will build socialism where once the USA exported death and misery.
No.538251
>>800985
>nooooo Ukrainionos are hecking based, why are you calling them nazis, liars and false flaggers?! You are the real nazi!
Haha, facts and logic go brrrr
No.538252
>>538250you make a compelling case, but have you considered turanic juche?
No.538253
>>538228Line going up = good
No.538254
>>538201yeeeeeeah, 100% saboteurs.
nailed it.
>>538196See
>>538201 No.538255
>>538234sad. i thought usyk was from crimea or something. anyway, hope fury kicks his ass if they ever fight (he would).
No.538256
DESTROY ALL BANDERITES
No.538257
>>538255He is from Crimea. That's the motive behind his actions
No.538258
>>538255Usyk is married to Kateryna and the couple have three children (born in 2009, 2013 and 2015).[126] They now live in Kyiv, Ukraine.
Usyk’s wife has Russian citizenship and the boxer uses Russian as his first language. On 28 April 2014, after the annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation, Usyk declared he would never exchange his Ukrainian citizenship for Russian citizenship.[127] In 2016, responding to a question if he can still enter Crimea, he stated that he often visits his family in the peninsula; that he does not like to talk politics due to the fact that people like to take words out of context, that in Russia he has many fans and that he does not divide "our peoples because we are Slavs".[128] Afterwards, whenever pressed on the question, Usyk would often reply "Crimea belongs to God".[129]
Usyk is an Orthodox Christian. After his fight against Anthony Joshua, he said in an interview, "The only thing I wanted to do with this fight is to give praise to my Lord Jesus Christ and to say that all comes from him."[130]
Usyk urged Russian president Vladimir Putin to call off Russia's invasion of Ukraine that began on the 24th February 2022.[131]
No.538260
it's going to be sad when this is over and people go searching for their family members just to find out they were murdered for being "saboteurs"
No.538263
>>538259the only sabos that do some praxis.
No.538264
>>538230it was real it just wasn't that big a deal. garden variety corruption that could only indirectly imply some kind of Joe linkage.
>Joe gets appointed Viceroy of puppet Ukraine>Ukraine Big Oil puts Hunter on its board with a fat salary for doing nothing, so they'll get fat contracts and favorable treatment from Joe>???>Trump wins No.538265
The only fucker on this board doing praxis is Ukrainian anon from /draw/.
No.538266
>>538252>turanic jucheI'm interested. You don't happen to have something like tantric juche too?
No.538267
>>801004
>strong
>unified
lol
No.538269
>>538266sufi-buddhist tantric turanic juche soon
No.538270
>>538259Did you know the word saboteur comes from workers throwing their clogs (sabot in french) in the machinery of a factory to do politics? Thus saboteurs are antiwork and socialists, therefore based and not sussy.
No.538271
>>538261Russian propaganda. Reddit and twitter told me Russians are killing every civilian they see. Those tanks are actually running over every single car in that video.
No.538272
>>538265>if you don't travel to ukraine you're not doing praxis. Brah, I hold a position in my local org. I'm not going to die to Ukraine in a pointless battle, what the fugggg.
No.538273
>>801004
The only reason china doesn't support this is because legitimising separatists sets a bad precedent for them
No.538274
>>538272ignore CIA shills
ignore NATO bots
No.538275
About the closing skies:
>They closed the European skies for Russian airlines - our “all-weepers” are already crying about the “Iron Curtain”. And it’s not for us to cry, but for the Europeans. Those who need to go from Russia to Europe will still get there - through Turkey, for example, or through Finland (no one has yet canceled trains to Helsinki from St. Petersburg).
>But for Europeans to get to Asia after the Russian sky is closed for them, it will be oh how difficult. Although Russia is not a sixth part of the land, as the USSR was, it is still the largest state in the world. And all routes from European to Asian countries pass - more precisely, until recently they passed - through Russia.
>Now what? Two options: either fly through Canada and Alaska, or along the southern route - through Turkey, Transcaucasia, Kazakhstan, and so on. Both options significantly lengthen travel times and require refueling stops, additional food rations, and overflight charges. If earlier European airlines paid one country - Russia, now the same amount will have to be paid several times: according to the number of transit countries that will be able to set much more serious tariffs, feeling a monopoly. Naturally, this cannot but affect the cost of tickets, prices will rise significantly.
>Who will benefit from this? Only Asian airlines, to which no one closed the Russian sky. They will be able to offer much more competitive prices and European airlines will be flying empty very soon.
>In two or three months, European business, together with European citizens, will complain about their own governments, which, in turn, will have to somehow justify themselves, do something.
>So who ended up suffering the most from the closing of the sky? I guess the answer is obvious. As long as the Europeans do not forget the language of ultimatums and pressure in relations with Russia, nothing good can be expected from them.
No.538276
>>538259They just don't want people to see how low-effort their "negotiations" are, and when the Ukrainians go back they'll claim without evidence that the Russians are demanding too much.
No.538277
>>801004
Can almost guarantee people will stop caring within a month or less
No.538278
>>801017
Good luck sanctioning China LMAO
No.538279
>>801004
>liberal democracy
banderite clown show, you mean
No.538281
>>538277You don't realize the ramifications of the sanctions that have been put in place. These divisions have long term effects. Russia is done with the west
No.538282
>>538278I am now supporting Germany close off all gas supply lines and all sanctions against russian fertilizer and grain.
I hope I don't die in the process.
No.538286
>>538285based comrade putlin
No.538287
>>538234hands can't hit what eyes can't see, a bullet to the head kills Usyk as much as it kills me.
No.538288
>>801017
The only that will cause is cheapening the Russian energy making it irresistible for Europeans.
No.538289
>>538285how do people come to the conclusion that he's losing while kyiv is encircled
No.538290
>>538282Any chance Germany will actually do this? I hear China has severely reduced it's export of fertilizer ingredients this year as well.
No.538291
Please post sources about the ukainian attack on donbass last week, around the time of the mass civilian evacuation from donbass, and around the time of their sovereignty being recognised by Russia?
No.538292
>>538289He's not losing the war by any means, but economically they are beyond fucked lmao
No.538293
>>538288Boy, I say boy, now that the Ruble is worth less than peanuts, lets go carpet baggin' like it's the reconstruction years down south!
No.538294
>>538292>Russia will die, guys! Totally!They'll just fast forward Chinese cooperation deals which already were in the talks.
No.538296
>>538294on very very very favorable terms for China lol
No.538297
real recording taken from the frontlines on Kyiv
>ayyy we're still right here homie, its fucking morning, fucking…
<we got the enmigos right there homie, let me represent myself homie, its doubleD Zcreepa from the g'd up 13 gang homie, sun valley gang homie.
>loli wino from Armenian power west side gang homie.
<still puro surenos, putting it down homie, we're still fucking alive homie, from the middle east to eastern Europe, we're in Ukrania homie, still gangbanging still not giving a fuck homie. look homie check this shit out, the puro sur-13 homie, look at this fucking Z homie, got them big tiddies and shit homie, still gangbanging homie, come, Ali, check out the enmigas right there homie, they're all right there dog. but we don't give a fuck homie
<as you know homie, иншаллах homie, Ukraine slava on my dick homie, Capone-E from cyclones, Mr criminal from Silverlake, and all the crazy locos from Pasadena, and pink lady, we still got love for you girl.
>got love for all the homies, homie, all the vatos
<lets put this shit down homie to all these motherfuckers homie
<still got love for all the surenos homie, post that shit with songs and send it Mr criminal homie, tell him to put it in all the fucking songs homie, all the fucking songs, you're the shit homie
>thats how we do it homie
<in Ukraine still gangbanging look at this fucking rain homie, fuck them fools homie
>front lines homie front fucking lines
<turn that shit up homie
<that's for all the surenos, still not giving a F-uck homie, that's right, gangbanging homie
<post this shit homie, tell the homies we alive fools, in fucking, eastern euro homie, still gangbanging for the su-13 gang homie
>in Ukrania homie, we're in Ukrania homie, front lines homie, front fucking line, not giving a fuck homie
<das right look at them fools homie, their fucking tripping dog look look at that motherfucker homie
No.538298
What’s Russia’s long term plan here anyway? Maybe I’ve just been propaganda poisoned because I can’t seem to find a clearly pragmatic reason for the invasion of Ukraine. If it was about NATO, then surely they could’ve just maintained their presence in the separatist regions and not bothered with a full scale invasion. It seemed like Russia was in a half decent position before the invasion, they were getting closer to China and they had the west embarrassing themselves by being unable to do anything about the threat of invasion. Now Putin’s made himself public enemy number one and he’s opened the floodgates for a full justification for sanctions and for what?
No.538299
>>538258>the boxer uses Russian as his first language.>fights for regime that makes his language illegal and kills thousands of people where he came from.enjoy the western clout, i guess.
No.538300
>>538230Hunter Biden served on the board of Burisma Holdings, a major Ukrainian natural gas producer, from 2014 to 2019. With no knowledge of Ukraine and no experience in the energy industry, he received $50,000 a month. U.S. banking records show Hunter Biden’s American-based firm, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, received regular transfers into one of its accounts — usually more than $166,000 a month — from Burisma from spring 2014 through fall 2015, during a period when Vice President Joe Biden was the main U.S. official dealing with Ukraine.[2]
In March 2016, VP Joe Biden arranged for the firing of the prosecutor that was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into Burisma Holdings[3][4]. Joe Biden threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending Ukraine toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin[5].
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Biden%E2%80%93Ukraine_corruption_scandalBIDEN: So they said they had—they were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, I’m not going to—or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority. You’re not the president. The president said—I said, call him. (Laughter.) I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a bitch. (Laughter.) He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.
https://www.cfr.org/event/foreign-affairs-issue-launch-former-vice-president-joe-biden
>Burisma Holdings is part of the vast business empire of Ukraine’s second richest billionaire oligarch, Ihor Kolomoisky. Joining Hunter Biden on the Burisma Board of Directors is no less than Aleksander Kwaśniewski, named in January just weeks before the US Kiev coup. Kwaśniewski was President of the Republic of Poland during the G.W. Bush presidency. Chairman of Burisma is a Wall Street former Merrill Lynch investment banker named Alan Apter. Finally, Burisma also at the same time named to the board Devon Archer, Hunter Biden’s partner at a US investment firm, Rosemont Seneca Partners, and a manager of the family wealth fund of Secretary of State John Kerry’s wife Theresa Heinz Kerry, widow of Henry Heinz III. Archer also sits on the board of the family’s Howard J. Heinz trust. So with these two board appointments in April, Burisma gained the son of the Vice President of the United States and the financial adviser to the family of the Secretary of State. Not bad for an almost unknown Ukraine-Cyprus company.Now it gets really interesting, though. The illegal Kiev regime on March 3 only days after their bloody coup, presumably under guidance from Nuland’s State Department, appointed Kolomoisky as Governor of Dnipropetrovsk oblast in eastern Ukraine, precisely the region where Ukraine’s shale gas deposits lie.[4] Burisma Holdings has drilling rights to just that part of eastern Ukraine in the Dneiper-Donets Basin near Kharkiv where the fiercest resistance to Kiev dictates is found.
Slavyansk is in the heart of the Yzovka shale gas field, where local residents before the February coup had staged numerous protests against its shale fracking development. In May 2012, Ukraine’s State Service for Geology and Mineral Resources granted the right to develop the Yuzovka shale gas deposit to British-Dutch Shell. Burisma also has the right to develop the shale gas fields in the Dnieper-Donetsk basin of Eastern Ukraine. [6]
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Document:Stench_of_Corruptionhttps://web.archive.org/web/20191005190946/https://tass.com/world/742366https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/436816-joe-bidens-2020-ukrainian-nightmare-a-closed-probe-is-revived No.538301
>>538297im laughing out loud
No.538303
>>538291Putin said about it in his speech
No.538304
>>538293Dude, you had Biden literally beginning China to uphold sanctions and don't disturb them.
>>538296Oh no! Not heckin more Communist Chinese influemce, how can I as a commie ever support that?!
No.538306
>>538299>makes his language illegalКак же вы заебали, ты ещё про геноцид русских на Донбассе расскажи.
No.538307
>>538298>Now Putin’s made himself public enemy number one and he’s opened the floodgates for a full justification for sanctions and for what?Now Russia will restore USSR's outer perimeter and make out of Ukraine a New Belarus - with full support from the new world hegemon China.
No.538308
>>538302>temporarily occupied territorieshehe
No.538309
>>538290I don't see how Europe could make up for not buying Russian gas. It would be devastating unless the US decides to subsidize gas, but they're greedy cunts so low chance of this happening.
An embargo on Russian fertilizer and grain would be seriously devastating to the world, but especially the West. Bolsonaro hasn't "condemned Putin" for this reason, I suspect.
I have to believe any strong sanctions on these things would be bluffs because the effects would be devastating. I am partially joking about wanting this, because it would cause serious internal turmoil in all of the West. More seriously, having lived through violence and shit, I don't want it.
No.538310
>>538302ukros gonna get the same rude awakening as twatter i guess.
No.538311
>>538302God, imagine the riots when Ukrops realize they are losing this war badly, lol. Total fucking eradication of the ruling class ensues
No.538312
>>538297>>538305hope the Armenian loli is still alive homie
No.538313
You idiots this only proves that there is high morale and resistance among the Ukrainian population
No.538316
>>538313GOOGLE DEEP BATTLE
No.538317
>>538309Egypt is the largest importer of both Russian and Ukrainian grain fwiw.
No.538318
>>538304Boy, I say boy, that won't stop me from carpet baggin' Russia!
No.538319
DPR and LPR stopped mobilization, even. Ukraine fell apart even easier than was expected, apparently.
No.538320
>>801058i can alrady imagine eu diversifying away from russian oil with americas help
and then trump gets elected and the us abandons europe
caos ensues
No.538321
>>538315>TRASLUCENTdon't worry she's only in the medical tent, but if she doesn't make it, avenge her homie, avenge loli wino homie.
No.538322
>>538315You have to let me go, the javelin wasn't your fault
No.538323
>>538302>>538311On God, we're getting stab-in-the-back myth 2
No.538326
>>538324We need a people's only fans, a cooperative of cam girls (and boys).
No.538329
>>538325u gotta give a description of what he's talking about man
No.538331
>>538307Is it worth wrecking his economy for? A full annexation of Ukraine would have to deal with an incredibly hostile public as well, and Putin ends up ousted from government and a western sympathetic leader were to be put in Ukraine would just instantly revert back to what it was previously
No.538333
>>538324oh, no, my Russian thots
No.538334
>>538329>>538330He's crying that Ukraine is getting destroyed. "how can you say death to khokhols?! We are people ,too!" and such. It's a trade stage of acceptance for him
No.538335
>>538324>those who side with anti-russian nazis discriminate people for simply having a Russian passportImagine my shock.
No.538336
>>538331>western sympathetic leaderWon't happen, lol. Reeducation camps go brrrr
No.538337
>>538329>>538330He's saying something like I'm embarrassed. Independent Ukraine is surrounded. then he starts sobbing and I stopped the video.
No.538338
>>538298Buffer or puppet states, that's the reason.
No.538339
Some people get shot: I sleep
A van which some drawfag anthropomorphized as an anime loli is taken out: REAL SHIT
No.538340
>>538298completely breaking with the west, NATO was never going to take russian concerns seriously and would actively undermine the country whenever they wanted. with NATO overthrowing and terror bombing whoever they want in iraq, afghanistan, libya, and syria, western-backed color revolutions in ukraine and all over the world, and with the US lionizing people like navalny as a brave resistance figure, russia knows there's a target on its back and the united states will only tolerate complete subjugation to the empire, not partnership or cooperation
No.538341
>>538331Anything would have to deal with a hostile public tbh. Whatever happens NATO will fund insurgencies, an annexation is one way to assert more control on a territory that will in any case be disputed. Also Putin is not alone, a big chunk of the russian political class is with him, and what's to say the west would drop sanctions without him? Nothing, no guarantees. Cuba liberalized but they're still sanctioned to death.
No.538342
>>538339Post F in order to show your respect to anime loli van.
No.538345
>>538340this i think. sanctions are no deterrent anymore. they were coming no matter what. the west is only interested in russia's complete submission or its destruction. a constantly escalating raft of sanctions has already been going on for years, and more was coming no matter what, until it wound up in the same place no matter what. it was only a question of timing.
No.538346
>>538330>I'm simply ashamed>I'm simply ashamed that you're allowing this march into Ukraine from all sides>think, think, how can you write "death to hohols", "we will strangle you", "we will crush you">this is Ukraine guys, these are relatively close people even if they have their own interests and bugsBasically, dude has a conscience, and that's cringe
No.538347
>>538344incorrect, if they were, china would have put them all in reeducation camps.
No.538351
>>538346Someone needs to inform him that they won’t do the same for him
No.538352
>>538346the fuck is a hohold
No.538353
>>538349Should have named him Black Panther of Kyiv for the EPIC Marvel reference
No.538354
>>538324>Genocide is the intentional destruction of a people, usually defined as an ethnic, national, racial, or religious group.let us all remember where we were when the OnlyFans genocide began.
No.538357
it's Khokhol not hohol
No.538359
>>538352> Russians commonly use the word khokhol as an ethnic slur for UkrainiansPeople being racist
No.538360
>>538348>reddit arrowgo back
No.538361
>>538357Hohol works
>>538358God I hope so
No.538362
>>538358No it's a friendly nickname
No.538364
70 percent of the Ukrainian population voted for this Ukrainian President, who spent his 41 years in non-government political jobs (actor, dancer). He spent his entire life dancing and acting and doing nothing to do with other people's lives. When you elect someone to represent you in government, you are granting them the authority to protect or destroy your life. When you vote for a politician to be a member of the elected government, think twice. This isn't a joke. You can see what those government politicians can do to endanger or save lives.
No.538365
>>538358Kind of. It originally comes from the word for the traditonal Cossack hairstyle but it's used like a slur sometimes. I've even heard of a guy who got murdered by a Ukrainian for it.
No.538366
>>538300Bruh is literally everyone involved in Ukraine? I swear it's like Syria 2
No.538367
HOLOHOHOLOIDOCAUST
No.538368
Imagine a fucking clown being the most respected leader in the world now.
No.538369
>>538355>>538367fuck i meant to quote the other guy
No.538370
>>538324L'onEly Fans confirmed for CIA asset
No.538371
>>538368Literally clown world
No.538372
>>538366the whole US political class at the time went in there and looted the place and set it up to be cannon fodder for their proxy war with Russia. Joe Biden himself was the viceroy in charge of setting up the new government and deciding on its (anti-Russia) policies.
No.538373
>>538325what is it with men and crying these days? i think the men have become pussies while the women stronger
No.538375
>>538373Who cares about men crying? It’s pretty serious, what’s going on there
No.538377
>>538374This has to be a shitpost
No.538378
>>538374All 82 of them surrendered and are paraded on Russia TV
No.538380
>>538374>>538377It's real ive seen it on tweetr
No.538381
>>538373Some people are human peings with empathy. But this concept is hard to grasp for average /leftypol/ user.
No.538382
>>538364>When you elect someone to represent you in government, you are granting them the authority to protect or destroy your life. When you vote for a politician to be a member of the elected government, think twice. This isn't a jokeThis is extremely liberal, lol. So liberal it hurts.
No bro, for one, the fact that you think its ok for an elected official to have power over your life is insane. The rest of your post is peak liberal ideology. I encourage you to continue your studies.
No.538385
>>538382Imagine thinking that people get to choose under the current system
No.538387
>>538325What deep battle does to a mf
No.538390
>>538325why do all ukrainian men look like that
No.538392
>>538390Because they don't.
>Hurr durr why do al chinese people look the sameback to /pol/
No.538393
civil war in russia is definitely happening
No.538394
>Небольшое разъяснение.
>Во-первых, успокойтесь. Во-вторых, перестаньте верить разгоняемым по соцсетям ужасам, призывам и истерикам.
>Не для того у нас в России годами шли программы импортозамещения, поддержки сельского хозяйства и промышленности, усиление социального сектора, чтобы при малейшей сложности впадать в панику.
>Помните, что громкие заголовки СМИ не меняют реальность. Нефть остается нефтью, газ-газом, мясо и зерно - мясом и зерном.
>Ну традиция такая у Европы, раз в несколько десятилетий приходить и огребать. Пора привыкнуть уже.
>С уважением, Жанна Рябцева, Депутат Госдумы от партии «Единая Россия»
<A little clarification. First, calm down. Secondly, stop believing the horrors, appeals and tantrums dispersed on social networks. We have been running import substitution programs in Russia for years, supporting agriculture and industry, strengthening the social sector, in order to panic at the slightest difficulty. Remember that big media headlines don't change reality. Oil remains oil, gas remains gas, meat and grain remain meat and grain. Well, this is the tradition in Europe, every few decades to come and rake. It's time to get used to it. Sincerely, Zhanna Ryabtseva, Deputy of the State Duma from the United Russia partyhttps://t.me/SergeyKolyasnikov/23255 No.538397
Russian army is switching to indiscriminate bombing. Video from Kharkiv, shelled a residential area with MLRS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE50kjrI-j0 No.538398
>>538393Will the reds win again?
No.538399
>>538374been a while since i felt such deep cringe
No.538401
>>801167
russia doesnt adhere to "blitzkrieg" doctrine, retard
GOOGLE DEEP BATTLE
No.538402
>>538397>>801167Baltic cope
No.538403
>>538397More flexing from Kremlin to cover their impotent flacid dicks
No.538404
>>801171
Eh, make the fucker who posted such cringe hand out his data, no skin off my bones
No.538405
>>538403Good morning, Langley
No.538406
its from the guardian so i'm not posting a link.
>Talks between Ukraine and Russia have begun, the foreign ministries of both countries have confirmed.
>Ukraine has said its goal for the talks is an “immediate ceasefire and withdrawal of Russian troops”. Its delegation includes several high-ranking officials, but not its president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, himself.
>The Kremlin has declined to comment on its aim in negotiations, but Russian negotiator Vladimir Medinsky has said Russia wants to reach an agreement that was in the interests of both sides.
So basically, fizzle gang? They have advanced as far as they deep necessary, proved their point, and will now talk.
Its notable cuck ziolensky is not part of the talks, obviously Nato have been telling him not to talk, which has so far resulted in talks obviously breaking down, now actually none retards want to negotiate a peace that works.
This is my fanfic anyway, rolling for best possible outcome
No.538407
>Europe letting Ukrainians in in droves while keeping Africans, middle easterners out
White people suck tbh
No.538410
Croatian Volunteer Fighters Head for Ukrainian FrontlineVecernji list also wrote that help for Ukraine was being collected in the premises of the Bad Blue Boys, Dinamo football club’s supporters, in Zagreb. That action was reportedly coordinated by Denis Seler, who spent six years with Ukraine’s far-right Azov battalion.
[…]
Balkan nations are sharply divided over the Russia-Ukraine dispute.
Serbs have strong sympathies with fellow Orthodox Chrstian Russians, while many Croats back Ukraine’s resistance to domination by Moscow, Serbia’s close ally.
Nationalists from both Croatia and Ukraine see much in common in their countries’ recent histories.
Far-right groups in Ukraine grew in prominence with their role in the overthrow of President Viktor Yanukovych, manning armed barricades in Kyiv’s Independence Square.
https://balkaninsight.com/2022/02/28/croatian-volunteer-fighters-head-for-ukrainian-frontline/ No.538412
>>538406Russia sent very unimportant people to the talks tho, is probably a bluff and they will only accept removal of current government, federalisation and annexation of Donbas
No.538413
>>538406It could mean anything really. I personally don't think this will work because Ukraine won't give enough and Russia is still making gains.
No.538414
>>538410I really think one of the main reasons behind Natos policy here was to train up Gladio groups for use all over europe
No.538415
>>538411Damn, the Ukrainian army have been actually overestimating their casualties while it took 3 days for the Russian army to admit any casualties. What the fuck is this timeline
No.538416
>>801187
Noooooo it's based anti-imperialism and it's okay to remove Nazi Zelenskyyyyy and brainwashed cockholes
No.538418
>>538416YEs, don't forget the Ukrainian government is literally controlled by cyborg-hitler. We must denazify this puppet regime of the big lizard god Honolulu
No.538419
>>538412>>538413All this talk of russia slowing their advance for the last two days, west are saying its because of le based resistance, which is obviously shit. In my mind, this is as far as they want to go, because it would be literal madness to try and actually replace the govt of Ukraine. Doesn't take a genius to realise that conflict is going to be an unending quagmire and Putin is an intelligent man.
>>801187>muh ebil ruskis. Are you implying Nato peace talks are good faith or something?
No.538420
>>538418Ukraine is controlled by Azov Battalion, Azov battalion is controlled by Langley. This is the impression these threads can make.
No.538421
>>538416Imperialism is an advanced stage of capitalism, attained by some nations in the 20th-century.
Lenin enumerated the following five features characteristic of the epoch of imperialism:
(1) the concentration of production and capital has developed to such a high stage that it has created monopolies which play a decisive role in economic life; (2) the merging of bank capital with industrial capital, and the creation on the basis of this “finance capital”, of a financial oligarchy; (3) the export of capital as distinguished from the export of commodities acquires exceptional importance; (4) the formation of international monopoly capitalist associations which share the world among themselves, and (5) the territorial division of the whole world among the biggest capitalist powers is completed. Imperialism is capitalism at that stage of development at which the dominance of monopolies and finance capital is established; in which the export of capital has acquired pronounced importance; in which the division of the world among the international trusts has begun, in which the division of all territories of the globe among the biggest capitalist powers has been completed.
No.538422
>>538411Reddit will never admit that this is true.
No.538423
>>538419>Putin is an intelligent manHe was, once, but he lost his touch. This is a geopolitical fuckup that I would only expect from an American president.
No.538424
>>538411Good for them. Being alive is better than being a(n) hero.
No.538425
>>538414I'm not so sure this is coordinated by NATO itself, seems like just right-wing adventurists.
Also the left is practically dead in most of Europe, so Gladio is unnecessary. Unless they predict a rise of communist movements in the future.
No.538426
>>538419>Putin is an intelligent manPutin is out of touch with reality. Have you seen one of his latest addresses getting all personal with name calling zelensy and co? His rationality is dwindling. He literally made the worse move he could make, his country is in shambles and its actually likely he gets assassinated by his goons
No.538427
>>538420>>538418>>538416i really don't understand why people choose to talk in black and white absolutes on purpose. It isn't even funny.
Are you denying the large influence of the far right in Ukraine, particularly on military formations? No, but you are diminishing it, hiding behind sarcastic humour to mystify the truth of the situation.
In fact it is the case that there is some significant influence. Not every facet of a situation entails the entire situation and nothing is simple.
The correct position is a cold analysis of the facts and what that will mean, devoid of a moral judgement, not just being snarky because you've stuck your flag in the sand in one side or the other.
No.538428
>>538426he was name-calling zelensky because of his retarded decision to give firearms to citizens
No.538429
>>538423putin lost some autism score points from long COVID
No.538430
>>538423>geopolitical fuckup I wouldn't call securing the existence of his nation state a geopolitical fuck up. He didn't decide alone either, there are very smart people doing policy in the Kremlin like Surkov.
No.538431
>>538426>he gets assassinated by his goonsI hope so. The alternative to this or popular revolution is going full fascist.
No.538432
>>538423>He was, once, but he lost his touch. This is a geopolitical fuckup that I would only expect from an American president.Maybe they thought this would be less bad than letting NATO expand over the years and maybe coup or Balkanize Russia someday. Maybe they also think Putin's better positioned to pull this off than his inevitable successor. Or they really did fucking blow it.
No.538433
>>538426It was a public speech you doofus, of course it's emotional. Doesn't mean he's operating on that level of emotionality behind closed doors.
No.538435
>>538430You're right, Russia is much more secure now than it was a month ago. Thank you Putin and all the very smart people working tirelessly in the Kremlin.
No.538436
>>538434the trussy made it worth it
No.538437
>>538423I think it is yes, but if he manages to simply consolidate his interests in the east its not really. A big shock and awe followed by cordial talks in which he agrees to pull out of everywhere but the east would be a win and tbh would bring more stability to the region than there was before. It remains to be seen, basically. If he is gonna try and put a guy in as president, he has truly lost the plot.
>>538425soz, I'm of the opinion that most of these guys are post remnants and dregs Gladio anyway, and there is literally no such as the organic right. Scatch a Nazi almost anywhere in the world and the CIA bleeds.
The left is in fact growing since covid, with more strikes and so on, plus they think longer term which is one of the reasons they are winning, it is enough that there might one day be a left.
No.538438
>>538432i think youre right about both of those guesses, doesnt necessarily make it not a terrible choice but i think its true they felt backed into a corner, dont want to lose any more of eastern europe to the west, and putin and his people feel like this is a better time than letting the west get any further and have an older putin/less experienced successor
/leftypol/ might be free from the illusion that ukraine is winning but people here seem largrly under the illusion that the long game bodes well for russia, it doesnt
No.538439
I think you shouldn't talk about issues you know nothing about, I closely followed Russian and Ukrainian politics for years and there's nothing new you can tell me. I am perfectly aware of the American support for Maidan but it seems your delusional mind has not been aware that Maidan was a popular revolt against corrupt regime that did not want to join the EU, not everything is neccessarily orchestrated by the CIA or KGB. For Western lefties the CIA is what Jews are to Nazis, you can't handle the idea that not everything is orchestrated by the US and there's no world-wide conspiracy. The CIA couldn't kill Castro for decades, the CIA failed miserably at the Pig bay, the CIA failed to prevent Soviets stealing the nuclear secrets (the most protected project of the US at time), the CIA could not predict that Iranian monarchy will be overthrown in 1979, the CIA could not predict the rise of theocracy in Middle East, the CIA couldn't ensure success of insurgency in Syria, the CIA did not see the Arabic spring coming. Maybe one day you will accept that people can act as independent individuals and often pursue their interests. The self-interest of Ukrainians is prosperity. Russia is poorer than Poland which is twice poorer than the UK or Germany, thus it does not make sense for Ukraine to allign itself with Russia, unless Russia tries to brut force its will, which is what it currently does.
Also, not even the """all-powerful""" CIA could predict that the USSR will be dead just 8 years after the election of Gorbachev. Many of your Kremlinologists saw slowing economic growth and predicted stagnation only, while the quick fall of the USSR was a shock to the Americans. The fall of the USSR was seen as such a disaster in the American eyes that Bush senior went on to Soviet Ukraine to ask people not to declare independence from the USSR.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_Kiev_speechStill it doesn't stop many delusional Western left wingers living in their black and white world from claiming that Gorbachev was a CIA spy or that the mighty US somehow brainwashed Yeltsin, Kravchuk and company into destroying the Soviet union. Many people again ignore the self-interest there: leaders of the Soviet republics benefited from destroying the supranational Soviet state and taking all the power and taxes into their own hands. No need to answer to pesky Gorbachev when you are THE Gorbachev of your own little kingdom.
No.538440
>>538427>Are you denying the large influence of the far right in UkraineHow can you talk about cold-analysis and so on and fall for this Kremlin propaganda shit? How can a country with no Far right party in government be considered to be under "large influence from the far right". I really wanna comprehend this talking point because this is the shit that I keep hearing from Kremlin propagandist and I'm fucking baffled by the amount of people in this board believing so strongly in it
No.538441
>>801219
get some sleep hillary
No.538442
>>538426eh, he has always flexed on people in this manner I think. Usually he is cold yes, but still he is not completely adverse to a little banter, there are many examples
No.538444
>>538440>Kremlin propaganda shitRedditor
No.538446
>>538435With a western aligned Ukraine MAD is done for Russia and they can get wasted by a first nuclear strike. The top brass there think Washington is capable of annihilating their country if they had the chance of not getting any retaliation, and NATO Ukraine would seriously fuck with Russia second strike capabilities. And can you blame them? The dudes who lead the US can be real psychos, they almost triggered a thermonuclear war in 62 after all.
No.538447
>>538440Bro i really don't know what to say to you, Azov isn't even the only large right wing group there, there is the National Core, Right Sector, all kinds of groups.
An Azov Corporal was Police Chief in Kyiv for a long time, the Azov Battlion itself was co-opted into the actual Ukranian army.
There was a UN resolution against Neo Nazism, the only two nations to vote against was Ukraine and the US.
Its not just some Patriot Alternative burger tier larp. They get massive funding directly from US congress, they can building their own tanks. They have a thousands strong core of people and 10s of thousands periphery supporters perhaps hundreds of thousands.
No.538448
>>538439This is one of the best takes I've seen in this board so far. So many western lefties seem so easily influenced by the Kremlin narrative, since it is going against the US narrative. But rationality will yield a position that is against both Empires
No.538449
>>538439>popular >against corruption Wake the fuck up buddy. The post maidan government is literally hundreds of times more corrupt than the Russian stooge to the point the EU can’t even let them join their alliance as planned. It’s one of the most corrupt governments in the world by western media accounts. That and the Nazis makes it a deadly combination.
<Wikipedia of a shitty speech that meant as much as a roll of dirty toilet paperGo back
No.538450
>>538440>wanting to hear non Kremlin takes on russoboo "everything US does is bad" boardYou chose wrong place to be reasonable lmao. This shithole is /pol/ but for lefties and that should tell you everthing about mental state and stability of posters here.
No.538451
>>538443eat your last chorizo and do your prayers, bucko
No.538452
>>801227
not if nature intended to cause another catastrophe.
No.538453
>>538443I live in eastern europe lol. The future here is extremely bright and short.
No.538454
>>538439>Unlike you people who talk so much about the CIA, I know much of Russian and Ukrainian politics, anyway>CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA >>538448>MUH KREMLINGreat negative endorsement
No.538455
>>538324Ah so this is the de-dollarization of Russia i was hearing about.
No.538456
>>801227
Wait until China has prepared to exploit this chance regarding Taiwan. You will die for some Taiwanese ricefield when Washington calls for their vassals to die for their Eurasian containment strategy.
No.538457
I also think its hilarious yesterday I was told "no surpise the tripfag pedo is a NATO neo nazi shill" and today I am a dupe for Russian propoganda.
Maybe you're all faggots and should stop being so fucking triggered all the time.
No.538458
>>538374Laughed out loud, this is genuinely hilarious.
Who the fuck is the guy named Klit?
No.538459
>>538449>The post maidan government is literally hundreds of times more corrupt Wow do you mean people didn't get what they were revolting for despite a successful regime change?! That has never happened in the memory of man!
No.538460
>>538449>Maidan was a popular revolt against corrupt regime>The post maidan government is literally hundreds of times more corruptFirst of all, lets not exaggerate with "hundred times", and second, those two statements are in no way in contradiction with each other.
No.538461
Reminder that the Ukrainian government itself posted a video of the fake "Ghost of Kiev" on Twitter
And the Ukrainian defense ministry posted footage from the video game Digital Combat Simulator World
Maybe Twitter should step in and ban these accounts for fake news. Our democracies are threatened by Ukrainian disinformation campaigns
No.538462
>>538443lol, I live on an island in the Mediterranean and I'm less worried about nuclear annihilation my Uygha.
No.538464
>>538447The thing is there is far right groups everywhere. Yes the Azov battalion is in the military, and that indeed doesn't look good, but then again I can imagine a country under such pressure will take anybody in their ranks. I just don't see Ukraine implementing real far right policies and I don't see the far right presence in government.
Im mostly skeptical about this position because it is been Kremlin´s talking point for the last 8 years, and like always they make things bigger than they actually are for the sake of turning Russian people against the Ukrainian "regime".
Anyways, I wanna get more informed on this so I would appreciate (non-kremlin) sources to further read on this.
No.538465
>>538448Russian leftists are laughing at lahta propaganda right now because it's gotten so ridiculous and is obviously being forced overtime since the 24th, but when I come here and copypaste the lahta line people believe it unironically. I think it's a matter of perspective arising from where people live. Easier to believe the lahta line when you live in a constant bubble of western media, and easier to see the lahta for bullshit when it's literally being bombarded at you from all official channels, but conversely they are more susceptible to western bullshit.
No.538468
>>538464>The thing is there is far right groups everywhere.Nobody is buying this shit glowuyghur
No.538470
>>538461"Democracy" in our countries is itself a disinformation campaign.
No.538471
>>538439All those words and you said nothing. Can you resubmit with all the rambling taken out?
No.538472
>>538459The new government actually is fixing roads, implementing digitalisation of governmental processes and overall increasing quality of life. You gotta be blind to think a pro-kremlin government is actually better for the people
No.538474
>>538472being pro-kremlin is when you dont digitalize your country
No.538475
>>538464>I just don't see Ukraine implementing real far right policies and I don't see the far right presence in governmentthe thousands of dead ukrainians in odessa and the donbas saw it
No.538476
>>538474Being pro-kremlin is when your government officials steal massive amount of public money to finance their mansions and other assets abroad
No.538477
>>538472the new government also preferred to bomb civilians in donbass for 8 years instead of following the minsk agreement that they signed
No.538478
>>538464>I can imagine a country under such pressure will take anybody in their ranks. I just don't see Ukraine implementing real far right policies and I don't see the far right presence in government. 😒😒😒😒😒😒 I won't judge you because my liberal friends who have strong opinions about the subject didn't know nazis were a thing in Ukraine, because of western propaganda. But jesus christ, do a little research.
Lib friendly sources on the subject:
https://jacobinmag.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimeahttps://www.counterpunch.org/2022/01/24/nato-as-religion/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtOx6dW_0vU No.538479
>>538475>>538477Excuse me but the republics have been shelling Ukraine and breaking ceasefires for 8 years too
No.538480
>>538464>but then again I can imagine a country under such pressure will take anybody in their ranks.Nah. Even the Croatian president in the 90s, Franjo Tuđman (S to spit on his grave), gave a strict order that any and all Ustaše symbolism was to be removed from Croatian troops. Any right-wing people's militias were to be integrated into the Croatian Armed Forces, adopt the Croatian state's official insignia and stop calling themselves whatever they were called. This doesn't mean that the fascists and neo-nazis disappeared, they joined the armed forces and later police, but at least they weren't allowed to proudly display a literal Nazi logo and spread their ideology.
No.538481
>>538474putler is notoriously against fixing roads
No.538484
VLADOLF KREMLER!!!!
No.538485
>>538481wtf i thought fascists are big on infrastructure projects…
No.538488
>>538483Stop being a pedophile Ian
also your penis is small
No.538491
>>538472> implementing digitalisation of governmental processeskek, you should see what this means in eastern Europe: just additional technical problems.
The rest I don't buy at all, based on shock therapy that the West was proposing to Janukovič. Him not accepting it was the reason for his removal.
No.538492
>>538487No, the source is my ex-glowie friend who served in Afganistan
No.538493
>>538464>The thing is there is far right groups everywhere.not to this extent and not incorporated into the state in this manner. Also, on top of that, yes, generally, there is a problem with CIA backed neo nazis in many many places, it, I contend, is one of the worlds biggest problems that we shouldn't be diminishing.
> but then again I can imagine a country under such pressure will take anybody in their ranksthis is simply not how the timeline played out. In fact, the legitimate maidan protests were co-opted by Ukrainian capitalist class and chums in the EU, and Azov etc were their chosen catspaws, the "pressure" being entirely fabricated.
> I just don't see Ukraine implementing real far right policies and I don't see the far right presence in government. they have already under poroshenko pursued policies of privatisation and there is already loads of racist and anti roma attacks, there is already a war against the people of Donetzsk and Lukhansk
>Im mostly skeptical about this position because it is been Kremlin´s talking point for the last 8 yearsits true. Doesn't matter who says it.
>and like always they make things bigger than they actually are for the sake of turning Russian people against the Ukrainian "regime".just like you are making things seem smaller than they are for the opposite reason.
>Anyways, I wanna get more informed on this so I would appreciate (non-kremlin) sources to further read on this.you can literally read sources from all over the political spectrum my dude. From the jerusalem post to the guardian to far left stuff, its too out in the open to deny, so they just try to deflect the narrative. Would it also interest you to know they are armed by Israel. Look at the electronicintifada article about it, google electronicintidada azov israel as keywords or something
No.538494
>>538492once a glowie, always a glowie
No.538496
Putin
No.538497
>>538483Get the fuck out of here, Agent Kochinski
No.538499
>>538464> I just don't see Ukraine implementing real far right policiesBy merely allowing the existence of far right parties and militias, the Ukrainian government is de facto enacting fascist policies.
No.538500
We getting raided by Kochinskiites or what? All the sudden a big influx of retards
No.538501
>>538439Yeah, it was a popular revolt which was fueled by the NATO, CIA (via NED), and other think tanks, and later on captured by the ultra right wing, while NATO benefited and coaxed the captured revolution to its favor.
What's new? What are you against here?
No.538502
>>538500The Americans are waking up
No.538503
>Ukraine is nazis
>Russia is nazis
>Neutrality is nazis
Bros…
No.538504
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5ZLpFIsMH8Reddit-friendly good video about Ukraine's far-right
No.538505
China
No.538507
People claiming to fight about le evil nazi, wether they accuse Putin of being Hitler
No.538508
>>538489Not everyone but imageboard users are strongly inclined towards contrarianism
No.538511
>>800000
No.538513
also also, the world ahs historically been duped into thinking there is some big gap between being a nationally minded lib (most ukrainians) and being a fascist. In fact, there isn't. Being a fascist is just what happens when libs get fed up and lose their cool, stop pretending freedom matters and start privatising stuff at the barrel of a gun.
I will also remind you Azov burned down the trade union co-ordination office in Ukraine, massacring people, and it was covered up by the state.
This is simple bread and butter fascism plain and simple.
Now as i've said, i think the invasion, to have gone beyond the east, was misguided, but if this was simply pushing farther than he hopes to gain, it is a shrewd move. I think if half of ukraine doesn't want Russia there, it shouldn't be, but facts is facts about the political formation that is shouting loudly about this.
No.538515
>>538500everything reeks of reddit all of a sudden
No.538516
>>538510that's around 50 grand USD. aren't they paying their soldiers 3600 USD/month now too? must be a lot of NATO money pouring in
No.538517
>>538510I'm a Russian army, I surrender.
No.538518
Anyone who pretends there isn’t widespread institutional “Banderization” in Ukraine is full of shit.
No.538520
>>538512Cute.
Stop! Hammer time!
No.538521
>>538512why hasn't youtoob banned this guy for thought crime yet?
No.538522
>>538521Algorithms get confused because he's a texan.
No.538524
>>538512Who the hell is this guy? What's his deal lmao
No.538525
Bruh, was this thread really rebooted again lmao
Anyways, what's been happening since last 3am GMT?
No.538526
>>538391FUCK, hope he’s ok
No.538527
>>538525Peace talks, Russia will take Kiev soon
No.538528
>>538523I agree, but IMO burgers also benefit somewhat in short-term. The only problem is China is their biggest opponent, and relatively speaking they're not gaining as much as China long-term.
No.538529
>>538525negotiations ongoing, russians have total air supremacy over ukraine and are advising civilians to leave kyiv
No.538530
>>538519>Imperialist chauvinists obliterating each other in one fell swoopThis is Posadism right?
No.538531
>>538523>>538528Also a reminder that EU was supposed to start investing in Africa, copying and competing against China. This was laughable then, based on the figures they were giving. It's even more laughable now.
No.538532
>>538530Maybe if you live in a neutral country in the southern hemisphere, and then you've got nuclear winter to worry about.
No.538533
>>538523>entire euro working classHow's this gonna affect euro working class but just make everything more expensive and volatile?
No.538534
https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2022/02/27/russia-from-sanctions-to-slump/Michael Roberts:
<The answer to your questions would require a separate post. But suffice it to say that Russia is not imperialist in the economic sense. It is a weak capitalist state without military bases around the world, without a major technology base and without the financial tentacles of the g7 imperialist bloc. Bothside-sisters, I don't feel to well…
No.538535
https://nitter.net/RWApodcast/status/1498275088596185094#mMayors who negotiate peaceful surrenders of their cities are charged with treason and threatened with execution.
No.538537
>>538535Governor of Kharkov should get fucking shot in the head, no questions asked.
No.538538
>>538523i wonder what european politics are gonna look like by the end of the year. burger-skeptic? growth in far right as petty booj gets crushed by spiking gas prices? labor unrest as workers can't afford stuff anymore?
No.538542
>>538538radicalization of left, center and right, unironically
No.538543
>>538535He is an equivalent of Vlasov, understandable
No.538545
>>538523
>west rearming with minimal social unrest>nationalist sentiment reframed as noble resistance against the Inscrutable Oriental Tyrant>China's natural ally, Russia, will seemingly be rendered toxic on the world stage>all this with absolute minimum expenditure on the part of NATOI don't see how this doesnt turn into a huge shot in the arm for the US/NATO.
No.538547
>>538535imagine if this ends up incentivizing mayors to not only surrender but also to actively help the russians in order to avoid death penalty
No.538549
>>538225And how badly did Budyonny fuck up?
No.538550
>>538544Is that really the case? Putin has been the biggest supporter of far right parties in Europe, this is a big betrayal if true
No.538551
>>538381>empathy.Not gonna lie, that sounds kinda gay.
No.538552
>>5385444chan has been radioactive for almost a decade now.
No.538553
>>538533NTA, IMO it's a chance for the left down the line, despite the current NATO hysteria. Screaming about Putler is inexpensive now, but when economic sacrifices come, people will start turning against their political classes as well.
No.538555
>>538552>a decadelonger than that, rumors of feds taking full control of the mod team have been running around since 2008 at least and given what we know now, these rumors were very likely true
No.538556
>>538554This can actually be effective if coupled with an ambush
No.538557
>>538554God I wish those Hong Kong counter-revolutionaries would go and join Azov.
No.538558
There is no peace. Russia bombing the shit out of Ukraine during these talks lol
No.538559
>>538538Lib war mongering will do the same thing it did last time: drive a wave of far-right nationalism in the West.
>Libya and Syria start flooding europe with millions of brown refugees, which leads to….. Brext, far right party gains everywhere, Trump>pushing Ukraine proxy war leads to Russian invasion, which has to be "punished" by making everyone poorer from sanction-induced inflation and gridlock, which leads to….get ready, another far right wave is coming.
No.538560
>>538555True, I wasn't sure people would be familiar with that saga.
No.538561
>>538558It's Ukraine bombing their own cities to make Russia look bad. Google what false-flag attacks are.
No.538562
>>538559Fuck this shit, we better get used to being poorer if we want to avert the climate crisis
No.538564
>>538549Largest encirclement in history tier
No.538565
WE'LL HOLD A RUSSIAN PARADE ON MAIDAN SQUARE
No.538567
>>538559anon, right-wingers are on the side of Ukraine, this is the good refugees now.
what is happening though is that libs are becoming more openly right-wing.
No.538570
>>538426>Putin has gon cray cray folksYou can always trust on libs having embarasingly bad takes
No.538571
>>538562we're not averting the climate crisis anon. human society in its current absolute state is simply not capable of it. not even close.
No.538572
>>538550Based on what I have seen on /k/ and /pol/.
No.538574
>>538553This image feels so Reddit to me, but now it makes me curious. How would you guys define something as "Reddit"? What aesthetic features, comedic characteristics makes a form of media "Reddit"?
No.538575
>>538568Ok I think if Putin is still wasting his time with this dude it's just for appearances.
No.538576
>>538549>>538564More from the two wiki articles:
>In July–September 1941, Budyonny was Commander-in-Chief (главком, glavkom) of the Soviet armed forces of the Southwestern Direction (Southwestern and Southern Fronts) facing the German invasion of Ukraine. This invasion began as part of Germany's Operation Barbarossa which was launched on June 22. Operating under strict orders from Stalin (who attempted to micromanage the war in the early stages) not to retreat under any circumstances, Budyonny's forces were eventually surrounded during the Battle of Uman and the Battle of Kiev. The disasters which followed the encirclement cost the Soviet Union 1.5 million men killed or taken prisoner. This was one of the largest encirclements in military history.
>On 13 September 1941, Stalin sacked Budyonny as a scapegoat, replacing him with Semyon Timoshenko. He was never allowed to command troops in combat again. First he was put in charge of the Reserve Front (September–October 1941), then made Commander-in-Chief of the troops in the North Caucasus Direction (April–May, 1942), Commander of the North Caucasus Front (May–August, 1942) - but was removed from this post as the Germans approached, and appointed Cavalry Inspector of the Red Army (from 1943), as well as various honorific posts.
>Despite his bravery as a cavalry commander, the view of his fellow officers was that Budyonny was demonstrably incompetent at commanding an army in a mechanized war. Soon after the war, Marshal Konev told the Yugoslav communist, Milovan Đilas: "Budyonny never knew much, and he never studied anything. He showed himself to be completely incompetent and permitted awful mistakes to be made."[16]
<The First Battle of Kiev was the German name for the operation that resulted in a huge encirclement of Soviet troops in the vicinity of Kiev (Kyiv) during World War II. This encirclement is considered the largest encirclement in the history of warfare (by number of troops). The operation ran from 7 August to 26 September 1941, as part of Operation Barbarossa, the Axis invasion of the Soviet Union.[6] In Soviet military history, it is referred to as the Kiev Strategic Defensive Operation, with the somewhat different dates of 7 July – 26 September 1941.[7]
<Much of the Southwestern Front of the Red Army (commanded by Mikhail Kirponos) was encircled, but small groups of Red Army troops managed to escape the pocket days after the German panzers met east of the city, including the headquarters of Marshal Semyon Budyonny, Marshal Semyon Timoshenko and Commissar Nikita Khrushchev. Kirponos was trapped behind German lines and was killed while trying to break out.Cornman crossover episode!! No.538578
>>538575He is not even wasting time, he just sent some no-names to "negotiate"
No.538579
>>538567i didn't say refugees were going to cause this wave, i said they caused the last one (to a large extent). inflation and rising gas prices will cause it this time.
No.538580
Russia having a old time bombing civilians today
Very anti imperialist
No.538582
>>538579The thing is the increased energy prices are going to be short term, Europe has the ability to mobilise to transform the energy system
No.538583
>>538580prove to me that those "civilians" aren't porkies
No.538584
>>538555The final redpill is that bronies were a dry run for glow astroturfing
No.538585
>>538562most pollution comes from commercial and industrial activity, not from personal consumption. and the underlying economic system remains the same, forcing the working class bear the brunt of cutbacks isn't going to change the situation all that much
No.538587
>>538581Noone is falling for your bs man
No.538589
>>538582Europe lacks the ability to unify around anything. Even in these hysteric times this still holds true.
No.538591
>>538585Thats the point, commercial and industrial activity largely driven by the high consumerism of western society. Being "poorer" in the sense we consume less is what we need, a change in our habits is one of the most powerful tools against the climate crisis
No.538592
>>538396This can't be real, why is Putin really sperging out this hard? I thought Russia was winning?
No.538593
>>538587https://ria.ru/20220226/kiev-1775245593.htmlUkrainians bomb their cities and blame Russia for it
No.538594
>>538589Well Europe seems to have unified against Russia, the fact that swift sanctions got passed is pretty impressive tbh
No.538595
>>538373Lardass, you cant even develope an emotional relationship with your own mother. You wouldnt understand
No.538596
>>538593>Source: Kremlin sponsored newsHow gullible are you?
No.538597
>>538582freezing out one of europe's major oil suppliers is going to cause long term price increases. but good luck with that transformation.
No.538598
>>538591>covid virus, the greenest political actor yet>now economic sacrifices due to warexcept war is the biggest polluter
No.538599
>>538596Russia is the most reliable source because they want to look good compated to crazy ukrops. Almost anyone in this thread will tell you the same thing.
No.538600
>>538588MLP fandom and the brony phenomenon is a fed psyop to test capabilities
No.538601
>>538594Yeah. but sanctions against others are easy. Changing your own system is something else, this a serious problem of EU structure.
No.538603
>>538600I understand what you were trying to say, but is there any information about it?
No.538604
>>538580Imperialism is when you bomb stuff
No.538606
>>538593The apartment block was Ukrainian AA accident
No.538607
>>538598War is indeed the biggest polluter. Reminds of the the eco-stalinism takes, where creating a massive military is somehow gonna help the environment
No.538608
>>538591lowered consumption under capitalism only kicks the can down the road, and only the habits of the working class will change while the capitalists continue to consume many times more resources than the average prole. forced immiseration isn't the answer here (and can lead you to some very dark conclusions regardless)
No.538610
>>538483Hi Agent Kochinski! Can you please stop trying to touch children?
No.538611
Can Russia cut off Europe's gas and oil so the real seething can begin?
No.538612
>>538606Source: RT military expert
No.538613
>>538573>>538575Also proves the neutrality thing was a lie. The chauvinist spook runs so deep that they would rather see Ukraine destroyed and millions flee than "give up" a territory they haven't controlled in 8 years
No.538614
>>538611The thing is this will damage the already crumbling Russian economy
No.538615
>>538612Russian military experts are the most reliable sources in the war unless you consider capeshit fanfic reliable info
No.538616
>>538603Nah somebody else posted it as a tinfoil theory and I liked it
No.538619
>>538614The west are never going to drop the sanctions even if they retreat to Crimea and to the feb 24 borders in DPR and LPR, and there isn't much left to hit the west with that isn't direct war
No.538620
>>538617> ZIt is basically a scumbag filter now
No.538621
>>538617What? They are not wearing suits? How dare they break the etiquette, utterly disgusting and un-gentlemenish of em. I wouldn't even dare to drink tea with these scum
No.538622
>>538602Russian army out here BTFOing Ukrainians in a thirty year old Toyota hatchback
No.538625
>>538617> MedinskyПиздец цирк
No.538627
>>538619The west has a lot to gain from an economic relationship with Russia. Its pretty bold to say that they won't drop sanctions if they actually pull back on all the things that caused the sanctions in the first place
No.538631
>>5385621. too little too late
2. Personal consumption is not the issue. The question is how it gets to the consumers.
If you don't understand 2 then you literally do not understand socialist theory as being one of bringing the entire economy and its effects into consideration,
No.538632
>>538617This post made the shills angry lol
No.538633
>>538617>showing up to (not) prevent ww3 in douchebag swagI can't handle the honk level
No.538634
>>538472>The new government actually is fixing roadsexcept when they are blowing up bridges through their scorched earth tactic
No.538635
>>538617is that dave attell?
No.538637
>>538461>And the Ukrainian defense ministry posted footage from the video game Digital Combat Simulator WorldLink?
No.538643
>>800000
>>799999
No.538644
So the 'Ukraine is actually winning' delusion is wearing away. What will their next cope be?
No.538646
>>538636I know haz is a retard and all but does he actually believe the Qing dynasty was remotely Socialist? Because it was with the fall of the Qing Dynasty that gave us the CPC and the PRC.
No.538647
>>538645Nuclear war won't happen.
No.538648
>>538645Nukes require multiple approvals to be launched, don't worry
No.538649
>>538645I don't care about living, I just can't handle the fucking dread. I don't live anywhere near a major city, so chances are I'd survive the exchange and have to deal with that shit.
No.538650
>>538584>>538600>>538616Dumb. If you want something that glows you need to look at the people at the top of ED and LJ drama groups from the early 2000s. Literal feds.
No.538652
>>538645Nukes can only make things better. Stop pissing yourself.
No.538653
>>538644stab in the back myth, summary executions of saboteurs intensifies
No.538654
>>538213The final sentence of new IPCC report:
"The scientific evidence is unequivocal: climate change is a threat to human well-being and the health of the planet.
Any further delay in concerted global action will miss a brief and rapidly closing window to secure a liveable future."
No.538656
Russia closes airspace to 30+ statesRussia has closed its skies for over two dozen European countries, as well Canada, on Monday. The move came after the EU banned Russian airlines from crossing into their airspace.
European nations began banning Russian-owned airlines and Russian-registered aircraft shortly after Moscow launched a military operation against Ukraine early Thursday morning. On Sunday, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen announced the closure of the entire EU airspace to Russian-linked flights.
https://www.rt.com/russia/550856-russia-closes-airspace-eu/ No.538658
>>538646He unironically believes it, yes. His argument is basically "they weren't capitalist therefore socialism"
No.538659
>>538654wow, i'm sure there won't be further delay now
No.538660
>>538652Ah I see you too are a posadist as well. The Nukes will make things better as we create a new world from the ashes of the old.
No.538661
>>538655We need to bust out the DDR funny gas again
No.538662
>>538656Fuck, I still have family in Russia. How the fuck do I get them out
No.538663
>>538645Just go innawoods if you are that scared
No.538664
>>538662which part of Russia? Also, the chances that we'll have military action in Russian soil is close to zero.
No.538668
>>538651 Romantic writers did zero when Stalin did the same during WW2.
No.538671
>>538663>>538660>>538652I don't get it. Why are people treating this like some fucking game? There won't be a world if nukes are involved. No chance of socialism or anything. Yet anons seem desperate for a nuclear war. I can't take it anymore I might rope
No.538672
>>538656>>538662Also, what about non-russian, non-euro airlines? They can still fly between Russia and Europe/Canada right?
Funny that America didn't ban while all those cunts did.
No.538677
>>538671>I can't take it anymore I might ropeEven more stupid when you can enjoy death from nuclear
No.538678
>>538671There will still be a world. Highly unlikely that 100% of people will be wiped out in a nuclear war. Whoever is left will be responsible for the future of the human race.
No.538679
>>538673>last chance, russiaWhat chance? The Ukrainian military is no position for an offensive.
No.538680
>>538676SHOCK THERAPY INCOMING
No.538681
>>538655>so-calledby themselves lmao
No.538682
>>538673Why are uyghurs so fucking HIPHEY as to start world war fucking three over this
Way more people died in Syria and in Iraq, who gives a shit about Ukraine?
No.538683
>>538664Yeah but they are fucked economically, gotta get them out asap
No.538684
>>538680Bruh it already happened twice, there's nothing left to shock
No.538686
>>538678Watch Threads, retard.
No.538689
>>538673Holy fuck, they're preparing to unleash the Hulk of Kyiv
No.538690
>>538671what if yellowstone explodes tomorrow or a solar flare disables all the electronics in the world? these things aren't under our immediate control and there's no sense panicking about it, the world will keep turning whether you follow the news or not
No.538691
>>538687no everyone needs to see it
No.538692
>>538684They always find more things, believe me. We've had multiple waves of this therapy over here.
No.538693
>>538688Half of the text is cropped retard
No.538694
>>538686Threads is based on 70-80s nuclear bombing models which since fell out of scientists' favor.
No.538695
>>538671>Why are people treating this like some fucking game?because they have no control over it. and anyway, if you die in a nuclear blast you won't be around to be sad about it.
No.538696
>>538686Boring anglo shit
No.538699
>>538690This is far different from those two and you know it
No.538700
>>538694Nuclear winter is based in science, even if you're a porky in some ranch in Argentina your life will be shit.
No.538701
>>538671COPE. Porky has been using nuclear war as a cope for decades now, it's just a nothingburger and will
NEVER happen
No.538702
>>538545Because a shit-ton of people outside the west also exist, are not nearly as under-developed as they were a few decades ago, and are heavily anti-NATO
No.538703
Guys my university has made a project where you can listen to Russian radio comms. This is possible since many Russian soldiers are conscripts and have no clue on how to operate military radio equipment, so they are using civilian frequencies. There will be a lot of noise but you can pick out somethings in-between if you have patiance
http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/Settings:
7933.00 KHz on the left box
Filter to around 3KHz on the right, might need to switch around between 3 and 4
Squelch: on
Noise reduction: on
No.538704
>>538697Jets are old MIGs
No.538705
>>538655World War Two anti-Soviet fighter Adolf Hitler
No.538706
>>538699not in an immediate sense. the left isn't in any position to make or enforce demands, and until it is we've got to live with the lunatics with the launch codes
No.538707
>>538674epic war crimes time
No.538709
>>538559Don't forget all those guns and support equipment flooding into the Ukraine is going to flow back into Europe and terrorist groups. I don't see how western Europe doesn't see how the Neo nazis they're giving guns aren't going to abandoned their jew president and start training far right nationalist across Europe. They might end up with a mass shootings problem like America.
No.538712
The ukrainian propaganda is very similar to propaganda from Armenia during their war with Azerbaijan back in 2020.
No.538713
>>538685>>538708Why does she look so lobotomized?
No.538715
>>538713Bruh I was thinking the same thing. She's got the thousand cock stare when she's in some formal patriotic setting even LMAO. She looks cumdrunk.
No.538716
>>538689an american known as the ogre of oklahoma is already on the streets of kyiv, he's killed hundreds of saboteurs already
No.538717
>>538708You know with a name like AnnaLynne she comes from a very shall we say particular kind of stock.
No.538721
>>538710This is it? This is the massive losses according to the ukrainians?
OHNONONONO HOHOLBROS!
No.538722
>>538718speak american you terrorist
No.538725
>>538713She's American, probably the beer made from corn syrup that her mother drank when she was still a fetus.
No.538727
>>538721Only the ones confirmed by videos and photos, this is not the ones that the Ukrainian military are confirming. But independent third party. Real losses are of course bigger, but no clue on how much
No.538728
>>538147>would "foster instability" in Europetbh, based on NATO's track record the last few decades one would think that was the intention.
No.538730
>>538703If you follow the chatbox in this site a lot of people are picking up chatter. This is legit shit
No.538732
>>538670all anime is shit.
No.538733
>>538671Because if you actually understand the Posadist ideology you understand my point. The Factors are out of our control, if we are to have nuclear war its better to wipe out the base of capitalism and rebuild from there. If we were living in a Socialist led world where every country was Socialist/Communist the need for nuclear weapons won't be necessary and would be used for energy purposes.
No.538735
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No.538737
>>538710>1x>1x>1x>1x>1x>1x>1xoh no, ukrobros
No.538739
>>538697Russia would very much like a F22 but it's a plane the US only keeps for itself. Too much secret tech.
No.538740
>>538302>The highest level of confidence in the Armed Forces is in the West and in the Center (75-78%). Relatively lower - in the South and East (64-66%). kek, gee I wonder why
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