No.546045
is russia winning yet?
No.546046
First for kill all chauvinists
No.546047
nothing burger
literally nothing is happening
No.546048
So any info on the weird satanist american 'marines' ?
No.546050
>>546045Kiev will be taken soon
No.546051
Guys my university has made a project where you can listen to Russian radio comms. This is possible since many Russian soldiers are conscripts and have no clue on how to operate military radio equipment, so they are using civilian frequencies. Follow the chatbox as people are picking up the frequencies where you hear soldiers talking
http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/Settings:
7933.00 KHz on the left box
Filter to around 3KHz on the right, might need to switch around between 3 and 4
Squelch: on
Noise reduction: on
No.546053
Take the L *dab*
>>546045Lmao no.
No.546054
>>546051Chechens are talking on 8284.00 USB lmao
No.546056
>>546052The art of the deal
No.546057
>>546053> this videoPostmodern will destroy our civilization
No.546058
Kiev has fallen
No.546059
>>546053Bruh the Ukrainian army is being kettle on donbass and keiv is almost completely encircled.
No.546061
>>546051Omg Putin just farted
No.546063
>>546059He's still stuck in the 'ukraine is hecklin winning!' mentality, reality will sink in soon.
No.546064
>>546045faster than burger invasions
No.546065
>>546058the cornman of kyiv would never let this happen
No.546067
>>546057dadaism didnt destroy europe, reactionary desire to recreate "traditional" art and values did
the gif is in poor taste though i agree
No.546068
Why are libs so happy about the rubble losing value compared to the dollar?
Do they think this affects putin?
No.546070
>>546059Yeah, on maps maybe. Those maps don't show the ukranian units still behind Russian lines, they beelined for Kiev and now their equipment is being motti'd on the roads.
No.546072
>>546052I knew they wouldn't propose to give much and the negotiations were on track to fail but I didn't expect literally nothing. NATO psychos won't yield. I'm more and more inclined to think Zelensky was used as a tool by NATO to trigger this war so they could turn Ukraine into the new Pentagon's budget reason of existence.
No.546073
>>546069Does no one have rope over there?
No.546074
I hope china wind 🇨🇳
No.546080
>>546068they have no idea how any of this works, combined with a pretty extensive amount of the population having xenophobic tendencies (that they will never admit, not even to themselves). all i hear on social media is mass cheering for all of these attacks on russian people and groups affiliated with russia as a country, destroyign peoples livelihoods and inconveniencing their population but not doing a single fucking thing towards thwarting putins military plans. its nonsensical wrapped up in hatred and soullessness.
No.546081
>>546053How many javelins have the Russians captured now? They all cost $200,000. I've seen the Russians with hundreds as ukrops abandon Southern front
No.546082
>>546070>show the ukranian units still behind Russian lines, they beelined for Kiev and now their equipment is being motti'd on the roads.That actually Ukrainian army is stuck in donbass the "army" outside of that are just a collection of various milita.
No.546085
both sides in this war have a paramilitary death squad closely associated with a bunch of MMA promoters formally integrated into their regular armed forces… much to consider
No.546089
>>546085Islamic fundamentalism isn't the same as Nazism
No.546091
>>546089I mean, if you were to choose between one of them as the least worst, which one would you pick.
No.546093
>>546091islamic fundamentalism, alhamdulillah
No.546094
real recording taken from the frontlines on Kyiv
>ayyy we're still right here homie, its fucking morning, fucking…
<we got the enmigos right there homie, let me represent myself homie, its doubleD Zcreepa from the g'd up 13 gang homie, sun valley gang homie.
>loli wino from Armenian power west side gang homie.
<still puro surenos, putting it down homie, we're still fucking alive homie, from the middle east to eastern Europe, we're in Ukrania homie, still gangbanging still not giving a fuck homie. look homie check this shit out, the puro sur-13 homie, look at this fucking Z homie, got them big tiddies and shit homie, still gangbanging homie, come, Ali, check out the enmigas right there homie, they're all right there dog. but we don't give a fuck homie
<as you know homie, иншаллах homie, Ukraine slava on my dick homie, Capone-E from cyclones, Mr criminal from Silverlake, and all the crazy locos from Pasadena, and pink lady, we still got love for you girl.
>got love for all the homies, homie, all the vatos
<lets put this shit down homie to all these motherfuckers homie
<still got love for all the surenos homie, post that shit with songs and send it Mr criminal homie, tell him to put it in all the fucking songs homie, all the fucking songs, you're the shit homie
>thats how we do it homie
<in Ukraine still gangbanging look at this fucking rain homie, fuck them fools homie
>front lines homie front fucking lines
<turn that shit up homie
<that's for all the surenos, still not giving a F-uck homie, that's right, gangbanging homie
<post this shit homie, tell the homies we alive fools, in fucking, eastern euro homie, still gangbanging for the su-13 gang homie
>in Ukrania homie, we're in Ukrania homie, front lines homie, front fucking line, not giving a fuck homie
<das right look at them fools homie, their fucking tripping dog look look at that motherfucker homie
No.546095
>>546086>1st picFucking kek
No.546099
>>546091I don't know, both would kill me
No.546100
>>546087where the FRIK is the ghost of kyiv???
REDDIT DO SOMETHING
No.546104
>>546087its not gonna be good unless i see videos of based chechens making azov swine swallow those pork bullets
No.546106
>>546104It would honestly be good if both forces achieve mutual annihilation.
No.546110
>>546108I hope the ruskis get him
No.546111
>>546074>>546088China is not socialist.
No.546112
SABOTEURS. SABOTEURS. YOU ARE ALL SABOTEURS. NONE OF YOU ARE FREE FROM TREASON.
No.546113
>>546108https://twitter.com/KofmanMichael/status/1498301907202457600OH NO AZOSISSIES, RUSSIAN COLUMN RIDING THROUGH MELITOPOL TO MARIUPOL
No.546117
Looters to be shot on the spot, Ukrainian mayors warnhttps://www.rt.com/russia/550848-looters-ukraine-shot-towns/oh no, saboteur bros! we got too cocky
No.546121
>>546062>give weapons to far right extremism to fight proxy war
>they start attacking minorities in their country insteadNATO is going to create a European isis with this shit
No.546122
>>546079i can’t believe those wily russians faked the vid and pic, hacked the national guard’s account, and went back in time to edit azov’s insignia to make them seem somewhat problematic
No.546123
Does anybody know when the US or other Western countries started funding Azov?
No.546126
>>546124Why do they look like this
No.546128
>>546125
Putilla will restore the Golden Horde and take over China
No.546132
>>546119It is matter of Finnish survival at this point. Non-NATO countries are easy targets for invasion because nobody would give a fuck
No.546135
>>546053I really don't get the meming of western kids about this conflict.
The Ukrainian army has been destroyed 3 days ago, all there is left are unorganized soldiers and untrained civilians with high tech weapons, shooting eachother for being suspect of "saboteurs".
There is no winning for Ukraine, Russia's military power is superior, this is not simping, this is stating basic facts
No.546136
>>546127>they're laughingUkropbros?!
No.546137
>>546126They dont take showers
No.546138
>>546135It's the lib version of 'trump won, two more weeks'
No.546139
>>546126bred for war, think of it as humans vs orcs, in fact, the reason Azov is greasing its bullets with lards is because of a meme dictating that if Muslims are shot with a pig bullet, they go straight to hell.
No.546140
>>546138WE ARE WINNING, KIEV WILL HOLD OUT, TRUST THE PLAN
#Z-ANON
No.546141
>>546127were those gunshots?
No.546144
>>546143because of the innate need of the liberals to make everything centered around themselves
No.546145
>>546141Just interference/jamming, I know what you mean though
No.546146
>>546142Progroms are baked into the DNA of the burger
No.546148
>>546142Literally Kristallnacht
No.546149
>>546140Russian propaganda exposers created in effort to prevent propaganda [digestion]?
The battle to prevent lies from reaching the people.
The battle to prevent and demoralization
Enlighted you are weak.
Told the truth you fight each other.
Told the truth you don't want to fight.
System of truth.
Information warfare.
Z
No.546151
>>546142saboteur staging grounds, good riddance
No.546153
https://twitter.com/benvtk/status/1498261246168248323People are commemorating defenders of Kiev in Great Patriotic War as history repeats itself as a farce with Russia changing it's position this time
No.546155
>>546152>NATO is way more socialist than the USSR ever wasAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
No.546156
>>546109History will show the trials to be necessary
Death to Azov, freedom to Ukraine
No.546158
>>546122Those dastardly
saboteurs!
>>546130there's more
No.546161
>>546152>anarcho-NATOistok he got me lol
No.546162
are mods deleting the old threads? bruh this is like organised sliding
No.546163
>>546162they're on the archive board
No.546164
>>546160How long until the hohols pull a moderate rebel and force the civilians to stay in their homes?
No.546167
>>546160Massive bombing soon then
No.546168
>>546164They already did. Look for that vid of them fighting with that guy in front of his apartment that didn't want to be a human shield. It's in this thread or last one.
No.546169
>>546164How safe would it be to evacuate a surrounded city tho? Shoots from all sides, shit is fucking bleak. I know Ukrainians whose parents are staying in Kiev despite this shit. Bravery and stupidity if you ask me, only good thing is that Kyev has one of the most deep metros in the world
No.546170
>>546164Wouldn't want anyway "saboteurs" causing any trouble eh.
No.546171
>>546160Russians probably will talk about how they let the civilians leave the city after the terror-bombing campaign.
No.546172
Visegrad TV says Putin has been isolated in an Ural bunker for days
No.546173
>>546172He is literally in Moscow giving conferences about how Ukrainians are brainwashed by Nazis
No.546174
>>546160How long until the false flags, or Azovites just straight up massacring their own?
No.546175
>>546166Luka just looks so happy every year.
No.546177
>>546171Thats the scariest shit, if Putin wants to make the capture of Kyev quick and easy he will be carpet bombing the shit our of the city. He is doing this shit so he can later claim, oh but we let the civilians escape!
No.546178
>>546159>nooooooo don't wear caps aaaa muh dress protocolone of the absolute faggiest shit to get your panties in a bunch for
at least comment further on them being in constant contact with their western handlers through their iphones
No.546180
>>546177Probably there will be NAZI TERRORISTS WERE USING CIVILIANS AS HUMAN SHIELDS WE WERE LEFT NO CHOICE excuse. Fuck this shit, it devastates me
No.546183
No matter who wins the war, Russia is going to fucking die in the next few years to sanctions. Putinoids were so afraid of muh Yeltsin 2 if Putin would disappear, that they now get Putin nuking the whole economy to the ground (but in a based way, unlike the soy way the liberast Yeltsin did it).
No.546184
>>546160Reddit has already been salted with trust-me-bro Uke articles about them shooting refugees in the passageway
No.546185
>>801707
>when their airforce and drones haven't? They still hold major cities
Their air force has actually been destroyed they just have some loaned Turkish drones and the cities are been held by civilian milita not the army proper.
No.546187
>>546178It's all fun and games until the Russians get tired of their shenanigans and the doors open to reveal a bunch of Chechens
No.546190
>>546183>Russia is going to fucking die in the next few years to sanctionsThey have oil, gas ,wheat and fertilizer, theyll be alright, they can smuggle high tech shit from china if needed
No.546191
>>546159>Russians all have phones out>But you can't do it if you are a hohol!Do Russiabots really? That sure has to be too low even for your news consumers.
No.546192
>>801766
Urban combat is a very difficult thing, google Grozny Siege or Baghdad
No.546193
ok, I changed my opinion completely after the first days and Ukraine is obviously winning
the biggest thing I haven't considered is that they had 400,000 Donbas veterans who rotated during the 8-year drafts, Russia is going to have it much worse than Chechnya even if they manage to capture some cities
No.546194
>>546192You only need a few people in different balconies to make the Russians feel like they are being ambushed by an army
No.546197
>>546189This dumb Atlanticist bitch is the reason why Germans are paying so much for fucking gas.
No.546199
>>546195>obsessed with some obese americanwhat do I have to do to not end like you
No.546200
>>546194Yes, this is how the cities work. It is either Grozny/Baghdad or Leningrad/Sarajevo
No.546203
>>546200Putin is definitely carpet bombing the shit out of Kyev. I hope civilians stay in the metro in the next days
No.546204
>>546199>what do I have to do to not end like youWell don't take English lessons for starters my ESL friend.
No.546206
>>546183a correct take
>>546190Russia has no decent manufacturing that is not reliant on the Western supply chains
don't confuse it with the USSR which was mostly self-sufficient, it was all sold out in the 90s (thanks to compradors like Putin) and then never recovered (thanks to Putin personally)
No.546208
>>546193>Ukraine is obviously winningMariapol is enerciled and being ketteled ukraine troops in donbass are being enericled and keiv is almost encircled but ukraine is actually winning.
No.546209
>>546201ah, cool, mass civilian murder to prove the non-existent point
No.546210
>>546198Russia threatening to crash the ISS into the US is one of the funniest threats I've heard of any war tbh
No.546211
>>546198>russia was zeonjust like my japanese animes
No.546212
>>546203I'll believe it when I see it.
No.546213
>>546209>prove the non-existent pointWhat?
No.546215
>>546208If I hear one more motherfucking asshole say the word "kettled" one more time I'm launching nukes
No.546216
>>546203I don't think we have all information. Maybe it will be a blockade, maybe it will be dumb "send in the tanks without infantry" shit modern Iraqi army likes to pull out.
No.546218
>>546208yes, Russia expected the "operation" to end in 3 days, РИА Новости even accidentally published an article how "Putin got Ukraine back" and then deleted
they got themselves into an endless quagmire they've never planned
No.546219
>>546216>maybe it will be dumb "send in the tanks without infantry" shitDoubt the Russians will ever be doing that again after last time
No.546220
>>546198Porky shamlelessly using a crisis to grab supplementary market share in space industry. Business as usual i see.
No.546221
>>546204I'm glad all I have to do is not being anglo, but I have to wonder what makes them so prone to hardcore mental illness.
No.546222
>>546216Putin definitely needs a quick victory. Everyday the fighting is prolonged it costs him a fortune, Russian military already shelled a bunch of civilian infrastructure, not sure how hesitant they are of going full war crimes on Kyev
No.546223
It's funny how Putin is literally using IDF-tier excuses and a lot of /leftypol/acks still defend this guy
No.546224
DPR TROOPS 5 KM FROM MARIUPOLhttps://twitter.com/Suriyakmaps/status/1498251475344142338I wanna see Texas charging against Azov in a sea of glory
No.546225
>>546218Russia is actually completely fucked and that's bad, actually! Putin is fucked, and he has access to a nuke button. De-escalation needs to happen immediately
No.546226
>>546218>yes, Russia expected the "operation" to end in 3 daysLiterally nobody expept the russian military know how long they expected this to last.
No.546227
>>546218It's literally been since thursday you fucking zoomoid
Ukraine is the size of France
No.546228
>>546225He's heckin' crazy ya'll
No.546229
Man the Ukrainian coping is strong itt
No.546230
>>546223There are literal Islamist, I mean nazis in their side!
Not only IDF tier, they have been sounding a lot like Muricans, Lavrov claiming they are bringing democracy to Ukraine. What a fucking word we living
No.546231
>>546224glorious glorious. the mariupol shitshow is what im waiting for. azov dogs should get whats coming to them
No.546232
>>546226If I was Putin I would've taken it in 2.
No.546233
>>546223I think there's nothing "lefty" to them, taking a side in a war between capitalist powers and wishing civilian deaths so one of those could win is nowhere left
communist parties of different countries already spoke against Russia, so the question is settled
No.546235
>>546224That guy is too fat to charge, he is a big target that will be easily hit before he gets a chance to do anything
No.546236
>>546230>bringing democracy to Ukraine.Are they bringing shitposting to international relations?
No.546237
>>546230Texas' line about how they're "liberating" ukraine by force in one of his recent videos is so fucking demented it's unreal. This is actual literal tankie shit. Not good, actually!
No.546238
>>546175Hes an old hardliner from the Soviet days. Dude was wearing a uniform, holding a rifle and standing a post before I was even born yet.
>He served in the Border Guard (frontier troops) from 1975 to 1977, where he was an instructor of the political department of military unit No. 2187 of the Western Frontier District in Brest and in the Soviet Army from 1980 to 1982. In addition, he led an All-Union Leninist Young Communist League (Komsomol) chapter in Mogilev from 1977 to 1978. While in the Soviet Army, Lukashenko was a deputy political officer of the 120th Guards Motor Rifle Division, which was based in Minsk.In 1979, he joined the ranks of the CPSU. After leaving the military, he became the deputy chairman of a collective farm in 1982 and in 1985, he was promoted to the post of director of the Gorodets state farm and construction materials plant in the Shklow district.[22] In 1987, he was appointed as the director of the Gorodets state farm in Shklow district and in early 1988, was one of the first in Mogilev Region to introduce a leasing contract to a state farm.[23]
In 1990, Lukashenko was elected Deputy to the Supreme Council of the Republic of Belarus. Having acquired a reputation as an eloquent opponent of corruption, Lukashenko was elected in April 1993 to serve as the interim chairman of the anti-corruption committee of the Belarusian parliament.[24] In late 1993 he accused 70 senior government officials, including the Supreme Soviet chairman Stanislav Shushkevich and prime minister Vyacheslav Kebich, of corruption including stealing state funds for personal purposes. While the charges ultimately proved to be without merit, Shushkevich resigned his chairmanship due to the embarrassment of this series of events and losing a vote of no-confidence.[25][26] He served in that position until July 1994.
No.546240
>>546232same
I'm a beast in hearts of iron, ukrops don't stand a chance
No.546242
>>546233>communist parties of different countries already spoke against Russia, so the question is settledDo you get these bullshit talking points from one of your groomer dicksore rooms or something
No.546243
>>546233>communist parties of different countries already spoke against Russia, so the question is settledAnd different communist parties have approved this war, Russian KPRF is split on this issue with chairman scolding traitors inside his party
No.546244
>>546074China a better then Russia 🇨🇳
No.546245
>>546238dats good food right there
No.546246
>>546243>chairman Ah yes the Mussolini dude who thinks class struggle doesn't exist anymore.
No.546247
>>546238He was the only deputy to vote against the dissolution of the Soviet Union.
No.546248
Embedding error.
>Thread theme rn
No.546249
>>546246He thinks it exists, but international struggle against decadent West is more important right now
No.546250
London has fallen
No.546251
Did glowies invade this thread right now?
No.546252
My virginity is still holding strong.
No.546253
>>546243At least 3 prominent members of the russian communist party denounced the invasion today I think. It's actually just bad. Total retard move on Putin's part. Whoopsie we killed a few hundred to maybe a few thousand civilians. Oh well, but anti-imperialism right?
No.546254
>>546225>Russia is actually completelyThe only way ukraine can win the war is if it drags for 3 to 6 months doesn't look like that's happening
No.546256
>>546251No ur just the only glowie here
No.546258
>>546243You think the kprf being split helps your case?
No.546260
>>546255uyghurs vs saboteurs vs glowies
No.546261
>>546251They have the reddit glowie smarm someone made a thread about a week or so ago kek
No.546262
>>546254Insurgency will be real looking at how defiant the Ukrainian people are acting. The occupation will deplete Russia even further of its economic power
No.546263
>>546249So the classic fascist line.
No.546264
>>546255Mariapol encircled and being ketteled that's about it also looks like peace talks are going nowhere
No.546265
>>546243>Russian KPRF is split on this issueso, even the controlled opposition KPRF is split – it says something loudly but you are too dense to note
No.546266
>>546209Good enough for America, good enough for Russia
No.546267
>>546260Glowies vs kremlibots is more accurate tbh
No.546268
>>546254There is no world in which russia wins anything even if ukraine surrenders. What do they win, as an outcome of this war? Tell me.
No.546269
>>546266and what's good for the workers of Ukraine?
No.546270
>>546253>maybe a few thousand civilians.UN and Ukraine are talking about hundreds now. Massive bombing will probably change it though
No.546273
>>546251Its just people that do not understand the stakes and are content with another 30 years of End of History.
No.546274
>>546209Mass civilian murder is based tbh
No.546275
>>546269Three year work and living permits in the EU. Thats about it
No.546278
>>546270Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of refugees! It's actually really fucking bad! But anti-imperialism guys! But critical support guys!
No.546280
>>546262>This insurgency cope.Russia isn't The USA. They don't want to stay in Ukraine for the next 20 years. Are the Russians still in Georgia?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War#Russian_withdrawal No.546281
>>546268>There is no world in which russia wins anything even if ukraine surrendersThey get ukraine not being in NATO but all I really care about is russia restarting history not becoming a strong imperialist power
No.546282
>>546264I've heard its because Zelensky doesn't want to leave office and the Russians want him out (will prob kill him once they capture him frankly)
No.546283
>>546276Based on fascistic delusions
No.546284
>>546255The Russians are using midgets
A bus full of 3 foot tall saboteurs was recently captured and tortured glory to Ukraine glory to the heroes
We are winning
No.546285
>>546279Source: The Science Journal
No.546286
Ok, I am gonna ask, what does "ketteled" mean?
No.546288
>>546286Encircled
like in HOI4 No.546289
>>546191I don't see their phones.
No.546291
>>546281You are, and I am not exaggerating when I say this, a fucking moronic fascist at this point. Blood greases the wheels of history, huh? Glad you're happy you fucking cunt.
No.546293
>>546269Taking those free guns their government is giving them and purging Kiev of every single mafioso, bourgeoisie, government official and oligarch
No.546294
>>546279based liberator
I kneel
No.546295
>>546280So they are going to leave the country as it is? Do you really think the puppet government they will install will not be ousted by euromaidan 2.0? Whats the point of this war if it isn't to suck Ukraine into Russias sphere of influence, and how is that not going to be achieved by holding Ukraine tight?
No.546296
>>546287Suspiciously quick source
No.546297
>>546278A stronger Russia means more ability of places like Yemen to resist NATO axis.
No.546298
>>546296Must be a saboteur
No.546299
>>546279idk fam, looks like the daeths were going down and the situation was normalising
now the deaths are at all time high again because he secalated the conflict
No.546300
>>546293>bourgeoisie, oligarchsanonymous, they fled the country several days before putler stepped in
mafia bosses probably fled beforehand too
No.546302
>>546296These threads are just filled with bots spreading misinformation.
No.546304
>>546279The Donbas conflict wouldn't be anything like it was/is if it wasn't for Russian intervention
No.546305
>>546292Fascism (in most forms) is one of the few ideologies openly glorifying violence, it is a part of many definitions of fascism. So yeah, saying "mass murder is based" is very fascistic
No.546306
>>546291>You are, and I am not exaggerating when I say this, a fucking moronic fascist at this point. Blood greases the wheels of history, huh? Glad you're happy you fucking cuntCope
>greases the wheels of history, huh?Yes has there ever been a case when it has not?
No.546307
>>546300Source zoomer Vidya brain?
No.546308
>>546302>oh no a source that doesn't go my way and that I can't reasonably debunk, let's fedjacketreddit moment
No.546309
>>546305Pure nonsense liberal buzzwords.
No.546310
>>546305>Fascism (in most forms) is one of the few ideologies openly glorifying violence, it is a part of many definitions of fascism. So yeah, saying "mass murder is based" is very fascisticWhat idealism does to a mother fucker
No.546311
>>546303where the fuck does the anti NATO axis get its guns and ammo? China? No. The only country able to successfully do this on a wide scale against NATO is Russia. No Russia means Venezuela, Cuba, Yemen, and Iran collapse. No Russia means China will be the only source of plausible resistance to NATO, and it will more likely just fuse with it in order to preserve stability. How is this in any way shape or form difficult to understand?
No.546313
>>546300Poroshenko is there with his mercs, he's been giving interviews to CNN.
No.546314
>>546305please leave this website
No.546315
>>546255>russian forces gaining ground, encircling cities>russian nukes are on high alert>hold peace talks and the ukraine makes insane maximalist demands>talks fail>russian forces gaining ground, encircling citiesi bet the burgers are telling zelenskyyy that he's a rock star on twitter and winning the meme war so keep going bro! And the fucking fool is listening to them.
No.546316
>>546306It's from a Mussolini speech you fucking retard. Call yourself a communist, you fucking piece of shit?
No.546317
>>546308>ask for source>links to UN within 19 seconds of the request being submittedDoes glow a little though doesn't it m8
No.546321
>>546317It doesn't take long to type "UN ukraine casualties" tho
No.546322
>>546307>zoomer Vidya brainthe ironing
https://tass.com/world/1403109don't ask me to do your homework again or I'm gonna have to shag ur mum again in retaliation
No.546323
>>546319My dad sometimes eats his food eating a raw, separate onion like it is bread.
>T. spaniard. No.546325
>>801909
Hello NATO
Why yes I do wholeheartedly side with Russia in liberating Ukraine from a Nazi regime.
No.546326
>>546238<Raw garlic and picklesHE JUST LIKE ME FR
No.546327
>>546319Yeah, it's fuckin great
>t. Eastern Yuro No.546328
>>546311This doesn't answer my question.
No.546330
>>546321But a pdf on ukraine.un.org is not a result of doing that tho
No.546331
>>546320>diminution of the person to a mere conduit for class interestslibs seething
No.546332
>>546293Instead we have neonazis purging immigrants and fleeing civilians. So "based"!
No.546333
>>546316>Call yourself a communist, you fucking piece of shit?Bruh Mussolini being right about something doesn't mean agreeing with him is facist in what way is it wrong.
No.546334
>>546325Keep repeating that "Ukraine is a nazi regime" fantasy to yourself, keep living in denial over how deep in ideology you are.
No.546335
>>546328How does it not answer your question. Without Russia, Venezuela's project would have collapsed already. Same thing with Iran, or Yemen, or Syria.
No.546337
>>546332They'll be dispatched soon.
No.546338
>>546331The preface is shit yeah. The text below is good.
No.546339
>>546336>liveuamapThere good for giving news but shit at updating their maps.
No.546340
>>546319Yeah raw onions are good
T. Texan
No.546342
>>546336liveuamap doesn't update in real time fyi
No.546343
>>546334If Ukraine is not a Nazi regime, why are Nazi battalions integrated with the military and secret police and given full powers?
No.546344
Oh boy it's high usano hours.
It's kind of funny how little self respect /pol/ has nowadays, posing as NATOcucks. Like damn, we get it, you want (you)s but it's frankly embarrassing, are you going to start taking cock up the ass to own the commies too? Crossdress?. At least make nazi apologia, guys. This is just off-character cringe.
I can't take sucking off the USA with reddit tier buzzwords seriously.
No.546346
>>546334>Keep repeating that "Ukraine is a nazi regime" fantasy to yourself, keep living in denial over how deep in ideology you are.Glowies aren't even trying anymore.
No.546347
>>546317It's listed on Wikipedia page lol
No.546349
>>546336The map only uses Ukrainian defense military reports we literally know the Russian armor is advancing into mariapol there is video of it.
No.546351
>>546335Because I didn't ask about what would happen in a world "without russia" you fucking retard. I asked in what way a stronger russia would help places like yemen to resist NATO.
Furthermore this is pure hypothetical wankery since even if Russia wins in this conflict, they won't come out stronger out of it in the short term.
No.546353
>>546344>CrossdressWhat do you have against crossdressing?
No.546354
>>546345Can't get over how the head negotiator looks like your typical petty bourg douche
No.546358
>>546336This is a fake Ukrop propaganda map
No.546359
>>801962
Agree except in Venezuela
No.546360
>>546357You can tell this was made by someone who believes in the ghost of kyiv
No.546361
>>546347>>546348>in under 19 secondsYou're sussy… you're saboteurs.
No.546363
>>546348Thanks for the more recent report
No.546365
>>546343because a libshit regime is joining with Nazis to massacre pro-Russian people and separatists that don't want to live under a US puppet regime that's trying to provoke war with Russia to suck up to the USA.
No.546366
>>801972
Mods ban this anti communist neoliberal
No.546368
https://www.rt.com/russia/550868-liz-truss-nuclear-alert/It's official, this fucking cunt is the reason Anglos might get fried tomorrow
No.546369
>>801972
>Chavez was fucking stupid in gifting so much money to people instead of investing it in projects to harden the economy in the long term
The economics understander has logged on
No.546370
>>801972
>chavez was (inane western myths)
No.546371
>>546352Russian saboteurs are in the water
No.546372
>>546353I just hate it when liberals like you try to dress as communists. You are not fooling anybody.
No.546373
>>546351>How would a stronger Russia, one of the main bulwarks of the anti-NATO axis, help weaker partners in resisting the NATO axis. Im not sure what the fuck you want to say to me. Short term this may fucking well be ass for Russia but if it manages to stabilize Ukraine in its favour it retakes not only the westernized resources and productive forces for itself, but also a safe access for its fleet. Likewise this decoupling of Russian capital flows will force them to ingrain itself more into China.
>>801962Didnt say this was AES dipshit retard. Just said it was anti NATO axis.
>Venezuela is fucked and kinda sucks therfore we cant count it as AES.Retard
No.546374
>>546343It's not an excuse to kill thousands of people and displace millions, ESPECIALLY when russia literally has their own weird versions of azov battalion as well. Russia and nato should have figured out a nonvielnt way of negotiating their issues, and they didn't. Russia is not in the right for this. They're both fucking bloodthisty maniacs with nukes.
No.546375
>>546364Wow, this is literally me
No.546376
>>546372>REAL communist crossdressBased
No.546377
>>546357>>546360>You can tell this was made by someone who believes in the ghost of kyivIt was:
>Soldiers reaching legendary statusthat did it for me. He said plural. He probably believes in the whore of kiev and the autist of kiev and the iron man of kiev as well.
No.546378
>>546364Based chinese.
I'm literally at work wasting time on ukraine-russia spectacle.
No.546379
>>546374Trying to join NATO is an act of war not just against Russia but against working people all over the world
No.546380
>>546364How hard is chinese to learn?
No.546382
>>546374>Russia should have figured out a diplomatic solution-Hey asshole, RF, Ukraine and Euro-NATO wanted a diplo solution, except the Yanks that wanted to push NATO to the RF border
No.546383
What's going to happen with the talks going on in Belarus?
No.546384
>>546346its a corrupt state subservient to their local oligarchs and to nato, with ties with nazis who wield significant power in the armed forces and institutions
but its not a straight up "nazi regime"
No.546385
>>546381Yes, this is one of the most weird episodes
No.546386
>>546384No it is a Nazi regime.
No.546387
>>546381Charge of the light brigade: based edition
No.546389
>>546368brits should be having many a sleepless night knowing this fucking moron and that dipshit bojo are in charge during a potential WW3 scenario. but unfortunately the people too are stupid and rally behind everything their government says and does wrt. ukraine-russia (even though last week they wanted to see these same govt officials sacked and jailed). these are NOT the people you want to navigate delicate wartime maneuvers.
No.546390
Wonder how much this thread would improve if Russia launched a thermobaric missile into SBU HQ
No.546391
>>801972
he did you know, despite the opposition of his local porkies… the fact venezuela still stands is proof of that
also investing oil money into education, public infrastructure and healthcare was definitely a good move
No.546392
>>546383Ukraine stalling. That's their tactic basically. I don't know why. And i don't know why russian fall for it.
No.546393
>>546381Sounds like a 'based retard' moment
No.546394
>>546381CIT has been proven very reliable so far, but this is something unbelievable
No.546395
NATO should be destroyed with attrition, the most death as much as possible as a blood sacrifice against all the blood NATO as spilled to be paid in full. NATO IS the imperialist and fascist arm of the west.
No.546397
>>546368i am waiting with open arms for the flames of nuclear fire to finally cleanse my soul
No.546398
>>546396This is a remarkably stupid post
No.546400
>>546396Has the Ukrainian president done something other than beg for support and dress up for photoshoots?
No.546401
>>546396I could see Voosh unironically getting excited about this meme.
No.546402
>>546394I don't know, this does sound like a fuck up an army could do.
No.546403
So what happened with the talks in Belarus this morning?
No.546406
>>546402Why the fuck are they sending National Guard in Ukraine?
No.546408
>>546403Ukraine literally wanted Russia to withdraw from Crimea and Donbass so it went nowhere.
No.546409
>>546406Peacekeeping in conquered territory?
No.546410
>>546198Everything that Existential Comics said about Musk was correct, holy shit.
No.546411
>>546408God they're so fucking stupid
No.546412
>>546380Very challenging. Hearing words accurately is difficult because there are so many homonyms and reading correctly is difficult because if you arrive at a word you don’t recognize the meaning can be totally lost. These difficulties exist in English/French/Russian/German/Spanish as well but it is at a totally new level with Mandarin.
No.546413
>>546051Every military does things like this for misdirection of signal intelligence during conflicts
No.546414
>>546396This has been declared officially BASED
No.546415
>>546409Too early. Did they expect a victory this quick?
No.546417
>>546415Pretty based and retarded if so
No.546419
>>546415They already have some cities, good to have specialized troops keeping the population in line and taking care of the stragglers while the army pushes forward. Someone must have made an error and gave wrong orders or some shit
No.546420
>>546403ukrainis are high on twitter hopium and following "advice" from DC to keep fighting, so they just made maximalist demands and the talks failed.
No.546421
>>546392russians can't do much about the stalling and ukraine is stalling for reasons of the west being super slow to act so they give them enough time that maybe some warhawks will go full attack mode
this and also the cynical hope that russians will commit well documented atrocities on civvies that will accelerate the restart of history even more
No.546423
>>546381…and that's why you shouldn't play too much hoi4
No.546424
>>546396That Zelensky
yyyyYYYYYYYY photo is from April 2021 LOLOLOLOL
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9476571/Biden-tells-Putin-time-escalate-Ukrainian-border.htmlImagine reposting NATO propaganda like a redditor.
No.546425
Working on a position with some members of a socialist party. Here was my proposed position.
<where does anti-imperialism fit?
>A. There are nationalities included in SSRs that do not have a stake in the nationalism of the latter after the union's collapse
>B. There is a nation, Russia, which has does not have stake in imperialism because of how it's explicitly contained by it. This is because Europe could not overcome the east-west division, so it was remade into a Europe-Russia one which was used to expand into the east
>C. that new division then bifurcated A as it reached multiethnic SSRs defined by the Russian revolution (where people there formed revolutionary states opposed to the central government of the pre-SSR nation), creating the alignment of Russia and nationalities included into SSRs but not the nations that succeeded them. This caused war in Georgia and Ukraine
>the anti-imperialist position is opposed to imperialism sponsoring the national division of the region. Thanks to unipolarity this trend is highly asymmetric.
No.546428
>>546427imagining that retard actually try to navigate world affairs is so fucking funny to me
No.546432
>>546426Canada has biggest Ukrainian diaspora in the world, some of them are pretty nationalist (lol)
No.546433
>>546429Now I know it's a TRY NOT TO CUM CHALLENGE (YOU WON'T LAST THREE SECONDS)
No.546435
>>546431I'm generally pro-Ukrainian on this issue, but what the fuck is wrong with these westoids?
No.546439
>>546436Does Canada imprison people fighting for Rojava?
No.546440
>>546431I guess we have been living in fascist racism this whole time.
No.546441
>>546431I'm surprised that western chauvinist think of Russia as civilized or european.
No.546444
>>546437Not sure if ironic
No.546445
>>546441Christianity was a mistake.
No.546448
>>546443I think Ukraine shouldn't be invaded by Russia
No.546449
>>546438>surrender to Russia>zero bruises>noses not bleeding>brain matter not hanging out their earsIt's almost as if Russia was in Ukraine to denazify a coup-captured population or something.
No.546450
>>546431Bruh Europe really has to be cleaned, damn.
No.546451
>>546447slavs are people of colour
No.546452
>>546448>I think Ukraine shouldn't be invaded by RussiaThen don't try to reconquer Russian areas that jumped ship after a nationalist coup?
No.546453
>>546436>>fight for the kurds<<Jail! Terrorist!LOL WUT
is this another anarkiddie fantasy?
No.546454
>>546431Well well well
https://amp.theguardian.com/music/2022/feb/28/denounce-putin-or-lose-your-job-russian-conductor-valery-gergiev-given-public-ultimatum>Denounce Putin or lose your job: Russian conductor Valery Gergiev given public ultimatumhttps://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/02/26/pers-f26.html>The campaign against Russian conductor Valery Gergiev: Middle-class hysteria in the service of war No.546455
>>546381My personal analyses of this as the poster, seems to indicates to me that Russia was prepared for a rapid and swift transfer of political power, believing that the Dancing With The Stars winner Zelensky would flee the country and save his own butt, and once the government fell the military would surrender without a war leaving the Russia riot police to keep the people in the city from rioting and looting and establishing calm and preventing social unrest to protect the people and the infrastructure.
Allow me to go even farther and to say that it is my belief that the U.S. wanted, and perhaps had no plans for the opposite of Zelensky staying and fighting. They tried multiple times to evacuate him even offering to send him a private jet.
After all the last U.S. propped up government in Afghanistan fled the country before any of the children even got on planes.
Saddam Hussein, who ruled for decades, ran and hid in a hole.
Who would have banked on Zelensky of all people, actually staying and rallying his nation to fight?
No.546458
>>546080People like this would cheer on the fire-bombing of Dresden and Tokyo, and the nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
No.546459
>>546450Honestly this is why I'm for the "globohomo" conspiracy, even though I know it's not true" of importing as many immigrants from the third world to Europe. The less white Europe is the less capable is it of spreading this absolutely insane rhetoric.
No.546460
>>546431How do I unsee this.
Absolutely fucking cursed.
Man, what a fucking bummer. How are these people even fucking real, I swear to god these ghouls are created in some factory by a cartoon villain.
No.546462
>>546446Wasn't she the one who concluded that Georgia was the aggressor in 2008?
No.546463
>>546435>what is wrong with westoidsWestoids feel bad when they feel naturally more sympathy towards people who look and act like them.
No.546464
>>546459Nah, I'm not about destroying the homes and countries of brown people so they come here to own the whites. Im all about killing fascists tho.
No.546466
>>546437>Ukraine is clealy winning.winning what ? twitter ?
No.546467
>>546448Yeah I agree. I fear is too late for a neutral peacefull Ukraine.
No.546468
>>546465Russia has invaded the country in February of 2014, what massacres are you talking about?
No.546469
>>546431>Yes, it would be worthwhile to study clinically, in detail, the steps taken by Hitler and Hitlerism and to reveal to the very distinguished, very humanistic, very Christian bourgeois of the twentieth century that without his being aware of it, he has a Hitler inside him, that Hitler inhabits him, that Hitler is his demon, that if he rails against him, he is being inconsistent and that, at bottom, what he cannot forgive Hitler for is not the crime in itself, the crime against man, it is not the humiliation of man as such, it is the crime against the white man, the humiliation of the white man, and the fact that he applied to Europe colonialist procedures which until then had been reserved exclusively for the Arabs of Algeria, the "coolies" of India, and the "uyghurs" of Africa.>And that is the great thing I hold against pseudo-humanism: that for too long it has diminished the rights of man, that its concept of those rights has been - and still is - narrow and fragmentary, incomplete and biased and, all things considered, sordidly racist. >I have talked a good deal about Hitler. Because he deserves it: he makes it possible to see things on a large scale and to grasp the fact that capitalist society, at its present stage, is incapable of establishing a concept of the rights of all men, just as it has proved incapable of establishing a system of individual ethics. Whether one likes it or not, at the end of the blind alley that is Europe, I mean the Europe of Adenauer, Schuman, Bidault, and a few others, there is Hitler. At the end of capitalism, which is eager to outlive its day, there is Hitler. At the end of formal humanism and philosophic renunciation, there is Hitler. No.546470
>>546455>Who would have banked on Zelensky of all people, actually staying Yes he was ordered by the west to stay
>and rallying his nation to fight?By which you mean the forced conscription of all males and forbidding males 18-60 from leaving the country at the borders, by presidential decree.
So yeah the brave ZeleskyyyyyYYYY has holed himself in Kiev and decreed that every Ukranian male must die to hinder the Russian military with their bodies. SO BRAVE! No.546471
>>546439afaik Canada, Britain and the US all consider the PKK to be a terrorist organisation
No.546473
Why does it seems like russians and ukrainians can communicate so seamlessly? I thought their languages were to each other what dutch is to english?
No.546474
>>546473Yeah and much as the dutch can almost all speak english, most ukrainians speak russian
No.546475
>>546473lmao no, its just different dialect
No.546476
>>546469What is this from?
No.546477
>>546473They speak in Russian, most Ukrainians (especially in Central and Eastern Ukraine) know Russian to a degree.
No.546478
>>546473Its like someone from Chicago speaking ebonics to someone with a New York accent.
No.546480
>>546476Aimé Césaire, Discourse on colonialism
No.546481
>>546473Most Ukrainians also speak Russian. Look up a map of lexical distance between European languages to see how dissimilar they are. You'll see the English-Dutch, Russian-Ukrainian comparison.
No.546484
>>54646699% of official media and social media. Only a few /pol/yps and our bunker are defending capitalist Russia.
No.546485
>>546482Honestly the weirdest part of the talks like were they expecting russia to except?
No.546486
>>546483Twitter is not news
No.546487
>>546484you're in good company
No.546488
>>546459>The less white Europe is the less capable is it of spreading this absolutely insane rhetoricat least one of the people in that lineup is american, despite the diversity white americans are perfectly comfortable using the same rhetoric and don't see the problem with it
No.546489
>>546479Literally this, there has been ongoing conflicts all over the world for over 3 decades now, and nobody says a thing.
Ukraine was bombing DNR and LNR for the past 8 years and no one says a thing.
But Russia wants to do a regime change in Ukraine and it's only been like 4-5 days and everyone loses their shit.
No.546493
>>546491I thought civilians had been warned to leave?
No.546494
>>546437you forgot >1000+ troops killed/day
No.546495
>>546484I'm aware official media is producing this narrative but it does conflict with the fact that "putting up resistance" is not "winning", but "losing slower"
No.546497
>>546493Yes.
At least in Kiev the russian goverment is letting them leave.
Other thing is if the Ukrainian army is
letting them leave. That's a different question.
No.546498
>>546493how the fuck are millions of non combatants supposed to flee in a blitz as rapid as the one the ruskies are pulling
No.546499
<commander of an anti-tank vehicle. Was abandoned by his commanding officers near Crimea after the vehicle had broken down."They're feeding us well, I am sleeping in a bed"
https://t.me/Postovo/3869>>546449Yeah, it's weird isn't it? I was told that the Russians are bloodthirsty savages and have no respect for prisoners!
No.546500
Good (very old) article from Russian Marxists correcting Western leftists on Ukraine. It was written long before the escalation, still an interesting read
https://socialist.news/world/ukraine/ukraina-sight-europe/ No.546502
>>546485Unless they're really drug addicts like Putin said and got high on their own propaganda there's no way they expected this to work. But behind the curtain advisors meet and who knows what's being said. At this point we can safely declare that the current Ukrainian government clearly doesn't want to be neutral. Until one the west or Russia decide to deescalate it will just keep getting hotter.
No.546503
>>546500anything translated plz
No.546504
>>546485Might as well have just declared war from the Ukrainian side. Would probably have been better for Ukraine to not do these talks, but allegedly, they requested them, so perhaps this was there intended message.
No.546505
>>546503right click -> translate by google
No.546506
>>546505no sir no google here
No.546507
>>546454>you must hold the approved political opinions and recite them publicly or be punished!so many Free World moments this week
No.546508
>>5461662005 Luka, best Luka
No.546511
>>546508Smug anime luka face.
No.546512
>>546502or ukrainian government gets overthrown by russia
which honestly i am hoping for for the sake of the proles at this point No.546513
>>546509is he actually fucking signing the drone lmao
No.546514
>>546488Except in America you get canceled, not as much in Europe because even though Europe is multi ethnic, it's not multi ethnic in the way the US is or North America in general is. There is alot of racism here yes but Europe is a different kind of racism, that can be got rid of by "Americanization" or having similar ethnic mixing the way the Americas have and the UK to an extent since the UK is similar to the US in terms of multi-ethnicity.
The rest of continental Europe is not so "lucky", their racism runs deeper in a different way and I consider it even more harmful than what we have in the Americas for exactly the same reasons as how that kind of rhetoric in that post is given a blind eye to.
No.546515
>>546484>99% of official media and social mediaSo they are winning the war of perception but are losing the war on the ground.
Doesn't seem very sustainable.
No.546516
>>546162Sage. you have been awfully quiet since this started. What are your thoughts?
No.546517
>>546485No obviously not, they said it precisely so the russians would refuse, because the task of the ukrainian government is to bleed ukraine white for the entertainment/propaganda purposes of NATO.
Now Zelensky gets to go back and say 'well we tried but evil russkies just want to kill us all' and the libs will counter anyone questioning ukraine's position with 'umm actually crimea is ukraine sweaty, deal with it' before posting an azov fancam at you.
No.546518
>>546513Apparently there's a picture of the drone crashed somewhere, with the signature visible.
No.546519
>>546512to be exploited by local and russian oligarchs aint much better than local and euro oligarchs
The best we can hope is that putin, wanting to stabilize it, put a truly popular socdem government in charge. But that sound way too optimistic for 2022
No.546520
Real question: How do you counter drones? I mean drones are nothing new yet even modern armys seem to struggle against them. Is the future of war literally just gonna be drones and autonomous vehicles warfare?
No.546522
>>546515It isn't. Look how it worked for TPLF. At least they could make an offensive even if they hyped everything up to the max.
No.546523
>>546498Ukrainian justification for stationing troops in apartment buildings, mortar in schoolyards and tanks behind offices is that "it's a city, where else are they supposed to go?"
Sadly, there is no other way.
Unfortunately this must happen so that European Ukraine can recapture Donetsk, its rightful clay, and resume its reign of genocidal terror there.
No.546524
>>546509Russians are winning pretty hard here. Turkish drones are a huge drain on their economy and they have lost dozens in the fighting already
No.546527
>>546468>Russia has invaded the country in February of 2014that's not really true. the Russians were already in Crimea (they had been leasing that naval base since forever), and any other forces they deployed came after Yanukovych was ousted by a coup and asked Putin to send in troops (to which Putin annexed Crimea so as to protect the critically important strategic naval base in Sevastopol.
in Donbas, there was a few officers that were sent in and organized a militia (guys like Strelkov), but the vast majority of those fighting for DPR/LPR secessionist side were Ukrainian citizens (in a survey of 1000 released POW's done by Ivan Katchanovski, ~95% of them had Ukrainian passports)
No.546528
>>546183They will be within the sphere of the Chinese they will be fine. I feel like if anything this is going to backfire in the West's face esp the whole SWIFT thing.
No.546531
>>546203>>546212>>546216carpet bombing is kinda hard to hide
No.546532
>>546520believe it or not: radio jamming
No.546535
>>546501Where are the subtitles?
No.546536
>>546533wow.. really epic…
No.546537
>>546533we're better than this
No.546538
>>546537nope, welcome to war
No.546539
>>546533The difference is that the Russian soldiers can get court-martialed (and should) while azov nazis won't.
No.546541
>>546536Don't be sad, Khokhol.
>>546537It's just one guy not in Russian armed forces who's fucking pissed at Nazis doing this shit. It will never catch on, and you get a sweet taste of revenge before going over the edge
No.546543
>>546541bloodthirsty moron
No.546544
>>546533Some angry people cheer on other people's deaths. That's understandable, but there is nothing funny or good
No.546545
>>546496How have the russians been dealing with the Ukrainian drones? Is this gonna be a Nagorno-Karabakh 2.0?
No.546546
>>546533that last reply is basically "i am fighting near mariupol, mama why are we baby killing fascists in donbass?"
it's kinda insane tho, a whole generation is never gonna heal because of this shit
No.546549
>>546543>>546544It's to demoralize khokhols/anglos who come here to shit with Ukrop disinfo.
No.546550
>>546522Ethiopia getting smeared lately with genocide and rape claims tho, expect a successful propaganda campaign in the coming years which will eventually lead to a coup or 'peaceful transfer' to a new party
No.546552
>>546551Those are ukrainian corpses tho.
No.546553
>>546549You're just giving them ammo. Don't stoop to their level.
No.546554
>>546533How do we know this is real?
No.546555
>>546533why the fuck are people doing this honestly
No.546556
>>546555because the wast majority of people are stupid and evil, that's why, anon
No.546557
>>546554We don't. Also the text here is extremely retarded, both green and white posts are somehow full of anti-Ukrainian racist jokes
No.546558
>>546166To quote a Belarussian youtube commenter arguing with Poles: Would you call a man happy if changes his spouse every four years?
No.546559
>>546533Imagine the horror and fear knowing your son may die, not knowing what's happened to him, and having this happen. Fuck anyone cheering this
No.546560
>>546501None are attached to the footage I am sorry I am a Burger I don't speak Ukrainian or Russian, just trying to upload some fresh new content.
No.546562
>>546554Good point. Why is he indoors? Where is any evidence of military gear? Was this part of a series of pictures? Or do we really only have a hand and a phone?
Anyways here's a machine translated.
You guys can use this link when you want to translate photos:
https://translate.yandex.com/ocr No.546563
>>546561>Economically illiterate and happy to be called a retard on this but am I the only one that thinks the economic sanctions are a nothing burger?Russia is a country capable of autarky. Putin isn't neolib cucked either.
No.546568
>>546526Holy fuck, at least she'll live, lucky it was a dud but damn what are the chances.
No.546569
>>546533Whats the translation?
No.546570
>>546558extremely based lmao
No.546572
>>546564are you sure that's trolling and not just a pic of their actual convo?
No.546573
>>546119Nah.
I have heavy doubts that the vote would pass the 2/3rds required in the parliament.
No.546574
>>546569Scroll up like 5 posts:
>>546564 No.546575
>>546565
Or its probably a juba sniper situation where they are claiming multiple people as one.
No.546576
>>546571nice quads, rip my eyes
No.546577
>>546572I just ran it through the translate. Ask the other guy:
>>546533I don't know where he got it from.
No.546578
>>546571low energy ukrainian rep vs HIGH ENERGY KHRUSCHEV-CHANNELING RUSSIAN THUMBMAN REP
No.546579
Is it really against the law to criticize Stepan Bandera in Ukraine?
No.546580
>>546564could he not be dead. clearly whoeve is responding just noticed the message alert
No.546581
WTF PUTLER JUST INVADED KIEV ABOVE MY HOUSE
No.546582
>>546552>NO UKRAINIANS HAVE DIED !!! GHOST OF KYIV!!! 100 BILLION DEAD RUSSIANS!!!>NO RUSSIANS HAVE DIED!!! BASED PUTIN!!! 100 BILLION DEAD HOHOLS!!!Youre just as bad as liberals
No.546584
>>546564yeah that's cruel
on the other hand it could've been written by anyone, and we have seen the hohol ministry of defense post trying pass footage from arma III as real footage
No.546586
Wtf putler just sent a mean message to my mom?
No.546587
>>546582We in truth don't have the real casualty numbers, it's an ongoing war so it's difficult to confirm, and the Russian military won't release that info yet for sure, neither will Ukraine.
No.546588
>>546579Where did you get this information from?
No.546589
>>546585Those are clearly Ukrainians but you also clearly see living Ukranian patrolling around, indicating they repelled an attack. You also see Russia armored vehicles being driven around, which is odd, but they could be captured, I suppose. Or it could just be the insanity of war.
No.546591
>>546571Wait a fucking minute. It was a fake made on dvach
No.546592
>>546533thats just shitty to do, its fucking stupid
No.546594
>>546549shut the fuck up already retard
No.546596
>>546571>>546591I mean, I was away from a computer when this happened, but apparently someone on dvach made a fake like this, and thne Ukrainian rep brought it to UN. It is a fake from a fucking dvach that got used by an Ukrainian rep at UN
No.546597
>>546152why the fuck you censor the name???
i wanna destroy this cuck
No.546598
>>546588Reading a Reddit thread about Ukraine praising Azov yesterday
All I've found so far is this article saying they were going to do it but idk if the bill passed
https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/04/27/dear-ukraine-please-dont-shoot-yourself-in-the-foot-nationalists-russia-bandera-rada/ No.546599
>>546596Based. Dvach copypasta was once used in Russian parliament as a justification of more harsh anti-Caucasian policies
No.546600
>>546588Stop trying to use leftypol as a source, I've checked more than half the links and image sources almost half are either bunk or old ass news or videos/images from 5-10 years ago.
No.546601
>>546597it's a joke bro relax
No.546602
>>546063stfu. Russia was seeing that Kiev wasnt working out like that, paused the attack for 48h and has now enough reinforceement to continue it since negotiations just failed
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russia-ukraine-warning-update-russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-february-27 No.546603
https://twitter.com/phildstewart/status/1498321143899598856(Reuters) - Germany's Enercon on Monday said a "massive disruption" of satellite connections in Europe was affecting the operations of 5,800 wind turbines in central Europe.
It said the satellite connections stopped working on Thursday, knocking out remote monitoring and control
THE WAR HAS REACHED SPACE
No.546604
>>546526shit is insane here, Russians and Ukrops are both katyushing the city at the same time apparently
No.546605
>>546551wow, a blue sky in Ukraine
No.546606
Does anyone else feel like people are underestimating Russia?
No.546607
https://www.fontanka.ru/2022/02/28/70476908/Putin ordered people who received western credits to not make any payments on their debts, forgiving them. Lol'd
No.546609
>>546606people arent, "people" are
No.546610
>>546526I hope she gets back on her feet.
No.546611
>>546606>people are underestimating Russia?I mean yea, this isn't even more then half of the Russian army in Ukraine rn, and they got this far with Ukraine seething and only winning the information warfare on Reddit and Twitter.
No.546613
>>546551Be a man and post Ukrops encircled in Mariupol :^)
No.546614
>>546571>Ukrainians show it at UNConfirmed fake.
No.546615
>>546595>>546612>twitter humorrun
No.546617
>>546561Quality of life will plummet compared to what it is now, but it won't wipe Russia from the map or put them out of the game or anything. The real question is if it'll push petites enough to start scheming, and if they're clever enough to get Putin out of the Kremlin.
Doubt it though.
No.546618
>>546600No you haven't lol
No.546619
>>546616^
This is why the Ruskies brought riot police units for the anon who asked before
No.546620
One of the funniest shit is, unknown to the majority of people, is that armor and such have a limited lifespan. I mean, tanks are supposed to get their engine replaced entirely after a very short period of time due to wearing out. Given that the absolute majority of Ukrop videos feature empty convoys with no corpses, well…
>>546616>Donetsk is UkraineOh, sweet Khokhol children…
No.546621
>>546615It is Dvach humor, it is far worse than twitter
No.546622
>>802303
>When will /leftypol/ admit Putler and Russia messed up and lost?
When he looses?
No.546623
Russian tycoon Oleg Deripaska says time to end 'state capitalism' in Russiahttps://twitter.com/AFP/status/1498266443586187265This is what I mean when I say that Russian comrades must be ready.
There will be turmoil in Russia.
No.546625
>>546539That's optimistic. If the asshole have two braincells working, he'll throw or destroy the phone quickly and good luck to prove anything.
No.546628
>>546622when the Germans stand in Moscow :*
No.546629
>>546627What's going on here?
No.546632
>>546598>>546598http://w1.c1.rada.gov.ua/pls/zweb2/webproc4_1?pf3511=54689^the actual bill containing the law
>Law no. 2538-1 "On the Legal Status and Honoring of the Memory of the Fighters for the Independence of Ukraine in the 20th Century" — elevating several historical organizations, including the Ukrainian Insurgent Army and the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, to official status and assures social benefits to their surviving members.https://www.jta.org/2018/02/06/global/poland-isnt-the-only-country-trying-to-police-what-can-be-said-about-the-holocausthttps://newrepublic.com/article/121880/new-laws-ukraine-make-it-illegal-bring-its-ugly-pasthttps://foreignpolicy.com/2016/05/02/the-historian-whitewashing-ukraines-past-volodymyr-viatrovych/^good article on it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_decommunization_lawsdon't listen to idiots like this
>>546600, investigate for yourself
No.546633
>>546624Ebin literally no argument
No.546634
>>546627This isn't Flight of the Valkyries
No.546635
So it looks like when Ukraine made communist symbols illegal they also made it illegal to deny the Heroism of infamous Nazi Stepan Bandera who shipped 1.5 million Jewish people into German hands. They also declared January 1st to be Stepan Bandera day.
Wild stuff for a non-nazi state.
No.546638
>>546626Putins political faction is indeed disillusioned by neoliberalism and want state capitalist dirigisme. They still work closely with the bourgeoisie oligarchs as you can see from his meeting hour with the oligarchs after the war him trying to tell economy wont collapse on monday.
No.546639
Embedding error.
>>546627Sounds like the Half-life 1 soundtrack
No.546641
>>546630imagine dying for NATO and your countrymen claiming you're a saboteur
No.546642
>>546640not enough blood for the Ukrainian blood god
No.546643
>>546357I swear I remember reading similar posts during the Crimea situation
No.546644
>>802341
>He's been loosing a lot, Anon
Other than twitter cope I haven't seen shit to prove this especially with Russian troops encircling keiv and donbass where the Ukrainian military is stationed not to mention matriapol. Like ukraine needs to drag this war on for more than a couple of months to win this.
No.546646
>>546637It's a sewerslvt track, I forget which but I think its an older track off of draining love story
No.546647
>>546645>according to European intelligence casualty figures Stopped reading there
No.546649
>>546623BASED COMMUNIST TYCOON!!!!!
No.546650
>>546645Christo Grozev also said that Russia probably suffered thousands of casualties. I wonder what Ukrainian losses are, they must be insane
No.546651
>>802355
This was obvious though
No.546652
>>802355
Why would Russia leave, lol? Ukraine's got it's entire army almost-encircled. All that's left to the West of Dnieper is volunteer militia and mercs.
No.546653
>>546623>There will be turmoil in Russia.There's always turmoil in Russia. But you're right, especially now, Putin's irredentist imperialist ambitions have backfired spectacularly. He's in a really tough position right now.
No.546654
>>546650Ukraine lost around 0 soldiers and 0 civilians
No.546655
>>546645source thoughever
No.546656
>>802355
Ukraine loses credibility with this tbh. They are now fighting to recapture separatists territories who have every reason to believe will inflict genocide on them.
No.546657
>>546654Not this kind of insane lol
No.546658
>>546654Those are the official Russian losses
No.546659
>>546653Why is he in tough position
No.546660
>>546563It absolutely isnt, unless by autarky you mean "has enough food".
No.546661
>>546635https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decommunization_in_UkraineFor me it's not a nazi state, mainly because there's not a nazi party dictatorship doing turbo capitalism. Decommunization also existed in other ex soviet countries like in the Baltic. The thing is since 2003 (and before) there's been a big political antagonism between Russia and Ukraine, so their govt decommunizes not because they hate judeo bolchevism and worker orgs but because communism is symbolic of Russia and they want to go west. Likewise Bandera is mostly not seen as nazi collaborator ethnic cleanser, but as the dude who fought Russia and as such represents the roots of the antagonism between the two countries.
No.546662
>>546648That's good for the Russians since they have air superiority.
No.546663
>>546648It's DPR/LPR. Those are militias
/k/ is retards who believe in american superiority. Believing in american superiority fries your brains
No.546664
>>802351
Yes.
No.546665
>>546630Nope, sorry Putin imperialist shill, but those are Russian uniforms. Ukrainian uniforms look slightly more U.S style camo.
Russians have been dying in big numbers over the past few days. The casualty figures provided by the Ukrainians for Russian KIAs are probably close to accurate as much as it makes you seethe.
No.546666
>>546658Russians said they had losses, didn't publish anything. But I do not think it is probable that they lost 2x as many soldiers in 4 days as they did in 2 years of the 2nd Cechen war or even 2 years of 1st cechen war.
No.546667
>>546648Not a shit post, thank you.
>>546653It can still go many ways. The bank run is the real big homeland issue for him right now, though that can be smoothed over once things cool down.
No.546668
>>546658There are two officially confirmed deaths in Russia, don't spread Ukrop disinfo memes
No.546669
>>546665>The casualty figures provided by the Ukrainians for Russian KIAs are probably close to accurate as much as it makes you seethe.They are not close to accurate even in the absolutely worse case scenario.
No.546670
>>546665So how come Ukraine denies us any footage of 6 thousand dead Russian bodies. That would be prime propaganda for Russians at home to remove Putin and his cronies.
No.546671
>>546668Id guess theyre 100-200
No.546672
>>546514you get canceled but the anti-racism is superficial and more about keeping the peace, under the surface there's still chauvinism and clever language used to hide it. the vicious and unapologetic racism of the jim crow era has mostly been replaced by the progressive, patronizing racism of coastal liberals while the structural elements of it persist. i don't think europe's problems with race will be solved by importing more brown people (i think they'd become significantly worse before they got a little better), they'd only go away with the dismantling of capitalism
No.546673
>>546665>Russians have been dying in big numbers over the past few days.There was a leak saying there's 200-300 dead Russians. Sorry, but no, Khokhol, however much it makes you seethe, EVEN ONE propaganda footage from Russia contains more POWed and dead Ukrops than the entirety of Ukrop propaganda videos. Sorry that you can't see Russian propaganda videos, though :^)
No.546675
>>546661>so their govt decommunizes not because they hate judeo bolchevism and worker orgs but because communism is symbolic of Russia and they want to go westwhy not both
No.546676
>>546671Pro-Russian analysts were talking about 600-700 on 26th, but fighting isn't as intense now
No.546677
>>546665<6000 deaths is accurate1000 would be too much.
Real losses are probably around 7-800 for Russia.
No.546678
>>546661Do you even need a Nazi party in charge under neoliberalism though
No.546679
>>546676>>546677200-300. DPR/LPR said they lose like 10 people a day.
No.546681
>>546659Because he gambled on the Russian invasion of Ukraine being something that would be over in a week's time, he was probably delusional enough to think there was actually a significant contingent of pro-Russian sentiment in Ukraine which is objectively false (even in Donetsk for instance 60% of the population identifies as Ukrainian, and Russian Army hasn't even managed to fully capture Donetsk or Luhansk).
Now NATO, Russia's geopolitical "enemy", is completely galvanized, the EU is truly united for the first time in our lifetimes, Finland is floating NATO membership, the ruble has collapsed and extreme western sanctions including SWIFT have made Russian oligarchs VERY nervous.
The more sanctions and the longer the war drags on, the more likely oligarchs are to overthrow Putin. It probably won't lead to a bottom up revolution of the Russian people but the oligarchs could 100% attempt to organize an anti-Putin coup.
No.546682
>>546676Nobody is killing +1000 soldiers a day. Doesn't happen in these conditions.
No.546683
>>546645Is this a hecking T90
No.546684
>>546674Russians are sending in the reserves mate, look, no cage.
They're running out of tanks
No.546686
>>546676ok maybe even as high. 5000 quadrillions as Ukraine claims is just cope but I shouldnt cope the other way around.
F for the brave soldiers dying for a new multipolar world
No.546687
>>546662It is for fast moving jets with chaff/flair that can go supersonic, but supply drops from large, slow moving transport planes is risky with the U.S. now supplying Stinger missiles to Ukraine (As of yesterday they moved a huge shipment into Ukraine according to U.S. military reports). Risking moving supplies by helicopter is very risky. And landing at airfields directly with huge transport planes is a nightmare in a hostile unsecured warzone. None of the airfields have fence lines or walls (from what photos show), just fucking wide open at this point.
An army marches on its stomach, logistics wins wars.
No.546688
>>546681While I give a non-zero chance that this operation is a giant fuck-up I just don't find it very plausible. Why would Russia launch a dumb, ill-prepared invasion which they knew will make them lose all power? And Russians aren't some dumb cunts who thought they can march into Kiyev in 5 hours.
No.546689
>>546681>and Russian Army hasn't even managed to fully capture Donetsk or LuhanskWhat are you talking about? Cities are under Russian control since 2014, just not the whole regions
No.546690
>>546681>Because he gambled on the Russian invasion of Ukraine being something that would be over in a week's timeOh yeah, dude, Putin would think that he cound conquer the country as big as France in a week. If you are stupid, don't project your stupidity onto others.
No.546691
I have seen enough. It's over for Russia. The only path to peace is the unconditional surrender of Russian troops and them giving back every inch of occupied territory including Crimea. If you are truly an anti-imperialist and for peace that's what you should be rooting for.
No.546694
>>546679It seems to me too few.
After all combat is raging everywhere and Russians are on the offensive side, which usually takes the greater casualties (this is not the case but I say it to give a measure of comparison).
The DPR/LPR data could be pretty accurate though. They're advancing without rushing it.
No.546695
>>802406
Hail Putin, NATO shill
No.546696
>>546691>that's what you should be rooting for.Oh yea?
Then how about Ukraine not joining NATO then and stop praising Nazis,and allowing DNR and LNR to exist as their own republics.
No.546697
>>546687>It is for fast moving jets with chaff/flair that can go supersonic, but supply drops from large, slow moving transport planes is risky with the U.S. now supplying Stinger missiles to Ukraine (As of yesterday they moved a huge shipment into Ukraine according to U.S. military reports). They don't have to fly over territory they don't control to resupply their frontlines. Meanwhile their jets can take out all the supply helicopters on the otherside.
No.546698
>>546684They have 15,000 tanks
No.546699
https://twitter.com/leonidragozin/status/1498326163986554889
>Zelensky signs form he had lying around to join the EUOr maybe there's someone there with him idk
No.546700
>>802406
The alternative to a Russian victory is 30 more years of End of History.
Any sane leftist knows what is the better outcome.
No.546701
>>546684Then you know, at this point, that the majority of their force was held in reserve.
Obviously shitposting online wont change the outcome but please don't bring these psychologic operations here. Be realistic about the progress of the war. I don't like living in opposite land we are in right now where gaining territory = losing, losing all airfields = winning, retreating = winning, getting encircled = winning
No.546702
>>546698It might not be so easy to pull old equipment back into service. But to be honest Russia will probably run out of tankers before that happens
No.546703
>>546694>After all combat is raging everywhere and Russians are on the offensive side, which usually takes the greater casualties (this is not the case but I say it to give a measure of comparison).No, attackers don't have to lose more, it's kinda the opposite actually - side with a greater mobility gets less casualties. Ukrops LITERALLY have an order to film every dead Russian, that's their strategy because their American handlers are morons who think that Twitter feed coups countries.
No.546704
Retired french colonel michel goya assessment :
Update on operations in Ukraine 28 February 0930 D+4
General impression: After the failure of the "operative shock", the Russians are returning to a method of successive operations by concentrating resources on Kiev and secondarily the Kharkov-Melitopol axis. The other armies are placed on pause or in defense.
Situation
Airspace: significant Russian effort thanks to reinforcement in Belarus. Numerous strikes in the depths of the theater (proclamation of air supremacy this morning) before concentrating the effort on the city of Kiev in preparation for and in support of the ground forces
Kiev zone: after reinforcements from Belarus, including Belarusians, the methodical investment of Kiev by the 36th (West) then 41st A (North and East) + light forces + air support began. The light forces continued their infiltration.
North-East zone: the 20th A was slowed down by the enemy (an ABG was destroyed near Sumi) and by logistical problems. The 1st ABG struggled to seize Kharkov. A division would have bypassed the city to reach Kupiansk, south-east of Kharkov.
Donbass zone: situation unchanged in the 8th A zone. Junction of 49th A with 58th A (East) + Naval Brigade. Continuity of terrain between Crimea and Donbass. Difficult siege of the port of Mariupol.
Crimea-Dnepr area: 58th A (West) in defensive posture. Fighting in Khierson, which Ukrainian forces have retaken. Russian position of Mikolayev in difficulty. First known use of TB2 Bayraktar armed drone by Ukr forces. Russian naval forces in front of Odessa.
Possible developments
Major fighting, with slow progress (1/km day) should begin in Kiev within two days.
Unknowns: 1 will the Russians consider the population as a hindrance to them and encourage its departure or as a burden for the defense?
2 How much firepower will the Russians use between crushing the defense and preserving historic Kiev (the focus of Russophile discourse) and its population? In any case, the Russians need a quick victory.
2nd axis of effort on the Kharkov-Zaporozhie axis. The 1st ABG was slowed down by Kharkov and the 58th A saw its resources dispersed between the Dnieper in the West, the siege of Marioupol and the progression towards the North. Perhaps it is necessary to expect the reinforcement of the 58th A from the base of Rostov.
Still no commitment of the 35th A in the west of Ukraine. Perhaps due to lack of logistical resources.
Remarks
1 After 4 days of fighting, Russian human and material losses exceed those of 6 years of engagement in Syria. The Russian army will inevitably come out of this war worn out. It remains to be seen to what degree.
2 Importance of low-cost armed drones of the TB-2 type for a force that does not have air superiority (and even the others).
3 Resistance of cities: importance of competent, motivated and numerous light infantry to defend or conquer. The Russian model is poorly adapted to the conquest of cities. The Russian light infantry is superior to its motorized infantry but insufficient in number.
Gradual transformation of Ukrainian regular forces from a regular army to an urban guerrilla army.
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No.546705
>>546699EU will as always need like - another douzen years to think of it. Its much but not quick. Also ebery country has to agree on - hail wallonia
No.546707
>>546698All destroyed by a SINGLE Ukrainian patriot with slingshot.
>>802422Easiest to spot as low quality. Give them a moment to purge this trash fire of a thread.
No.546708
>>546520>Real question: How do you counter drones? If they have a control center, you blow that up.
If that is not an option, and drones are rather large, you treat them like any manned fighter-airplane, and shoot anti-air weapons at them. If there is a swarm of small drones, em-jamming and smoke screens could neutralize their effectiveness. It might be possible to destroy large numbers of small drones with an electro magnet pulse weapon. Or you could just wait 25 minutes until they run out of battery. Also Helicopter down draft can blow away drones, if you want to clear out drones from a small area because you are trying to evacuate people.
>I mean drones are nothing new yet even modern army's seem to struggle against them. No they don't, modern military will just do decapitation strikes against command and control infrastructure or airbases.
>Is the future of war literally just gonna be drones and autonomous vehicles warfare?Drones are only effective against a really technologically backwards force.
No.546709
>>546701Nah man, Putin is doing a Afganistan speedrun. Who cares how much empty land you conquer if enemy armies are intact and supplied by someone else? Even if Kiev falls as long as organized resistance continues he'll eventually pull out
No.546710
>>546691>I have seen enough. It's over for RussiaNo amount of cope will change the actual situation on the ground which is in Russia's favor.
No.546712
>>546705Does Wallonia always say "no" to new members or something?
No.546713
>>546675Well it's kinda both. Indeed, although they didn't eliminate the communist party as part of a class war but rather as part of their struggle against Russian influence, it's a nice bonus for the ukrop govt since they slowly grind the organized working class and try to extract more profits trough neoliberal reforms.
No.546714
>>546712Wallonia isn't a country.
No.546715
>>546704>Fighting in Khierson, which Ukrainian forces have retaken.That's how I know this guy drinks Ukrop psyop-aid. So, nah.
>>546709There's no organized resistance, it's just bands of Nazis taking potshots.
No.546716
The strategy Zelenskyy is presently employing has me very uncomfortable. One should not forget the outcome of the Beslan school siege. Putin has the capacity to do unspeakable acts.
No.546717
saboteurs are within this thread
repeat, saboteurs are within this thread
No.546718
>>546715>There's no organized resistance, it's just bands of Nazis taking potshots.This is cope
No.546719
>>546714wallonia once blocked a very very important decision to - lemme google
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37749236oh yeah. American "free trade". The amount of cope and "you bastards we will bomb you to ruins" was glorious to see. Yes wallonia is just half of a country but they had a vote nonetheless, and in major EU decisions every vote needs to say yes.
No.546720
Is Sesame Street winning the war against SpongeBob? Or is that just Nickelodeon propaganda?
No.546721
>>546714Then why say "hail wallonia"?
No.546723
>>546709>Putin is doing a Afganistan speedrun. Who cares how much empty land you conquer if enemy armies are intact and supplied by someone else? Even if Kiev falls as long as organized resistance continues he'll eventually pull outUkraine unlike Afghanistan doesn't have the terrain for guerilla warfare
No.546726
>>546716I'm not making Putin apologies but I think it's clear that Russia wanted to take Ukraine with minimal civilian casualties and change the government.
So if/when Russia takes off the kid's gloves, it'll be the NATO puppets fault for deciding their citizens need to human wave the russians for the NATO foreign policy PR fund.
No.546728
>>546724yeah that was a glorious day. As EU grows, interests will just widen.
No.546729
How many days has it been and Russia doesn’t seem to have gone much further east of Kyiv besides some tactical take outs in the north. We have not yet seen footage or even claimed of Ukrainians being rounded up by Russians and processed or in any way governed, leading me to believe that any major population centres they have taken haven’t done much, which leads me to believe they haven’t really taken any population centres that don’t want them there, and the whole thing is a big flex to secure the east. How come half a country took like a day and they haven’t moved an inch since then? Don’t give me some bullshit about resistance, this is exactly where Putin wants to be
No.546730
>>546709No, there is no chance he will "pull out" of Donbass. If you expect Putin to occupy Ukraine and face insurgency you are wrong. That is not Russia's goal and they have explicitly stated, from the outset of operation, that they will not occupy Ukraine. They will go to war with it, utterly destroy it, sure, and secure the Donbass regions forever.
No.546731
>>546725now watch leftypol make excuses for-
>>546726Goddammit
No.546732
>>546718That's the fucking thing that it's not. There's just disorganized bands of propagandists who make propaganda videos. It's not a strategy or anything centralized, it's not even a guerilla warfare.
No.546733
>>546723Terrain matters less when your shoulder fired missile outranges an tank cannon
No.546734
>>546645Damn, though I wonder if european intelligence might have a stake in this conflict?
No.546735
The ukrainian government seems to go more fascist every day, they outright lie in social media, they take over civilian apartments and school driving out their own people, they actively instigate doubt among their own civilians and encourage them to kill "saboteurs".
I thought it was complete Maupinite propaganda at first, but now maybe Russia is actually waging a war of liberation to denazify ukraine.
No.546737
>>546729There is offensive in the East, Kiev isn't the main objective and also they employ human shield tactics, Putin avoids civilian casualties
No.546739
>>546729Russia has stopped the advance to wait for reinforcements until literally today. Yeah it wasnt going as well as planned but they did whats right and - changed the situation and reinforced supplies now instead of making it a more dangerous problem in a week
No.546740
>>546703Nah, the Americans know the Ukrainians are fucked. The conflict lasting longer just lets them do more shit to fuck with Russia and the EU.
No.546741
>>546725I literally don’t believe any piece of footage I’m seeing atm. That apartment block hit by the missile was fake. I’ve seen footage of a guy in front of a tank I’m sure is old as fuck and I’ve seen before. I’ve seen footage of Palestinian girls shouting at an idf solider people were claiming was a Ukrainian shouting at a Russian soldier.
No.546742
>>546726While the whole Putler thing is way overblown: you don't employ missile strikes on cities with people in the subway system below when you want "minimal civilian casualties".
I'm sure that one of the plans was to just waltz in and steamroll everything, no proverbial shot fired, but that changed very quickly.
>>546728This whole thing seems to have put a spin on that. That's the real milestone out of all of this: primary (re-)militarization of NATO countries.
No.546743
>>546738The cuck kettle….
No.546744
>>546661While that is true, ethno nationalism is still institutionalized as part of this anti-russia campaign. And Naziism is a real issue too, where many politicians have ties to nazi groups.
No.546745
>>546725There are people walking round casually while there are dead bodies in a park area?
No.546747
>>546742a spin in that it got worse or better? I dont really give a shit about EU, how anybody wants to be a part of it after Greece makes me wonder how stupid politicians can be. But theyre glad to sell their country for a short term gain as companies are I guess
No.546748
>>546733>Terrain matters less when your shoulder fired missile outranges an tank cannonComplete nonsense the ukrop milita are only suited for making urban combat a nightmare for the Russians without anywhere for them to retreat they will get air striked.
No.546749
>>546731I don't really give a shit if you think people are "making excuses." This is what it is. Russia took an approach to minimized casualties for political reasons and it did not pay off. Now, Zelensky says Ukraine will recapture Donestk. The war will become total, because of this political decision.
No.546750
>>546746I believe I called this.
No.546752
>>546747EU countries becoming hawkish is something you should be concerned with, as it'll affect world politics. Where they were critical in their support of the U.S. before, they will go all in now.
No.546753
>>546746if Putin goes "Ok sorry everything back to status quo k?" he will look extremely weak.
Kiev is about to fall, hell if he wanted he could take it in 2 days, do it and force them to surrender.
No.546754
>>546746Also it isn’t cucking out, if he secures the east and fighting stops, he’s a literal military and geo political genius. Even though I do think he’s a porky cunt and have never liked him. Source: anyone who saw my Kazakhstan takes
No.546755
https://progressive.org/latest/human-shields-excuse-war-crimes-zunes-210617/Just replace Israel with Russia and Palestine with Ukraine and you will get /leftypol/ putinbros
No.546756
>>546731>>546742You know, the Ukranian government can surrender any time and solve things diplomatically. Instead of forbidding the exit of males 18-60 from he country and enacting forced conscription. They have chosen otherwise which, hey, maybe NATO can support the morale with propaganda and weapons, but that's the Ukrnaian government essentially deciding every Ukranian citizen must die before the west loses it's puppet.
So yeah Ukranians got a great deal with the Euromaidan huh?
No.546757
>>546748You do realize Russians can't airstrike everything because lack of PGMs makes any approach incredibly dangerous? Ukraine is filled with stringers now so you can't just fly in with your su-25
Russia doesn't have capabilities NATO had in Afganistan or serbia
No.546758
>>546752From the perspective of the US, I don't see how Europeans were ever critical of the US. They did everything we wanted to, in every instance, with only a bit of whining (which we found amusing)
No.546759
>>546741I don't know what to tell you man. Its a warzone but its a city. People are going for food, visiting family, going to the hospital, renting a laserdisc from BlockBuster video.
But you might want to switch over to Cricket Wireless to stand in solidarity.
No.546760
>>546756Not sure why you tagged me in that.
No.546761
>>546752I am concerned but I cant tread them as noble states worth considering.
Of cause Ill ramp up resistance where I live, literally the center of this beast.
No.546762
>>546756They don't have to surrender, but they could surrender the separatist territories. They don't want to do that though, they want to murder everyone inside of them.
No.546764
Also Zelensky is the most dumb retard ever born, how are you supposed to "de-escalate" while demanding immediate membership to NATO?
That should be enough for Putin to cancel negotiations and kill the bastard already, literally anyone else would be better, in fact if he was dead this war would end immediately.
No.546766
>>546751Reminds of anti soviet warrior Osama. I haven’t watched Novara in the last week because I can’t bare to see them. No the whole of Ukraine isn’t azov but they are more significant than the BBC want you to think an they are the main beneficiaries of western military backing.
The bbc is my least favourite news outlet bar none. They can all get pitted
No.546767
>>546764Zelensky is not intended to de-escalate. He requested the negotiations today in order to announce his intention to escalate the war and make no compromise on Donbas.
No.546768
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No.546769
>>546761Fuck no, the EU still went a long with everything, even if they didn't send in the whole cavalry. I'm just worried about how far they'll go now.
For a brief window in modern history, Europe was sliding towards the dove. That's all gone now, the clock set back.
No.546770
>>546762"Ok, you can't have our country but you can have the piece of our country on our border where they like you a little more and which you already invaded."
No.546771
>>546765why would tankies do this???
No.546772
>>546770They don't like them a little more. They were declared separatist regions that were defacto Russia.
No.546773
>>546754Do you think the Russians are experiencing unexpected set backs. A quick operation would suit them best, as it remove a lot of the motivation for heavy NATO sanctions/aid, but they need to balance that with the need to avoid levelling cities etc.
No.546774
>>546769yes, for Europe this whole ordeal makes one thing undeniable - were nothing but a colony for the US. More important than you think cause Anti-Americanism in words flies very well here. Fucking fakers, traitors, nice-weather-revelouuzers
No.546775
>>546288This is honestly a good idea IRL too, not just in HOI4.
No.546776
>>546691guyz, our glow friend has seen enough. lay down your arms.
No.546777
>>546725Seems dubious as fuck tbh, you would surely be fucked shooting a fellow soldier in front of hundreds of other soldiers, and just because they tried to stop you shooting some random civilian? Then the other woman survived? So it was worth shooting another soldier in front of hundreds of people who have a non-zero chance of killing you for it, but then you let the woman they're with go?
Is it just me?
No.546778
>>546765He is still seething that the KGB used the Erectile Dysfunction Gun on him.
No.546779
>>546526>huge ass rocket that lands and does not explodeIt's a depleted first stage, most probably.
No.546780
>>546105>>546124"Converting" /pol/yps was a mistake.
No.546782
I've been in an Elden Ring induced coma for the past two days. What's changed?
No.546783
>>803538
The US is driving Europe into Chinese arms
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