No.550762[Last 50 Posts]
>/pol/ is up in its arms about it>/leftypol/ doesn't careOh, /leftypol/!
https://vault.unicornriot.ninja/patriotfrontleaks/And for a good time: Check out Benjamin.
No.550763
who the fuck cares about some LARPing goofs
No.550765
Heh, kind of funny, I guess.
Doesn’t deserve a thread tho.
No.550767
The Esoteric Hitlerism megathread is usually where anons post stuff about brownshirt LARPers but the level of getting owned this group is now on is getting hilarious. It's like a bad movie.
Antifas also smashed up their cars during their D.C. march and totaled a van they bought specifically for transport which cost them $20,000 in damages.
https://twitter.com/IGD_News/status/1484857721660719105 No.550770
>>550762This was in the USA General, where we talked about how these groups, when you break them down, only do petty crimes and streetfighting. They have no useful praxis in terms of realizing their longterm goals, but will only get a lot of people hurt.
No.550772
>>550762isn't this org just a fed op?
No.550773
>>550762So they all turned out to be cops right?
No.550775
>>550769>Commissars Cletus and JamalThe modern Knights of the Proletariat
No.550776
>>550767Communists and anarchists can be fairly larpy sometimes but it's never beyond making a specific point. Even maoists for example who are seemingly the most larpy at least actually have communal gardens and shit and give away groceries to those who need it, essentially doing productive things for the community. But nazoids just have their larp and aesthetics with nothing to back up their shit, who backs these fucks? Local petty bourgeois nationalists? Who cares most of these people aim to be big time stock owners, basically the "enemy" they claim they hate.
Historically big corporations backed the Nazis, and so these people would only ever have real power through corporate backing.
I think those amongst the higher ranks of these Nazi orgs understand the reality that of Nike and Amazon backed Nazis they'd come to power and that'd be the only way for them to have power and this reality they attempt to obscure by saying "corporations bad". Nazis are so bankrupt in the modern day its hilarious.
Fascism I think has been "swallowed" into the neoliberal superstructure so that to be a fascist would mean to be a neoliberal/neoconservative. This is capitalist realism except for Nazis and the truth is communism still remains the only true proper politics to struggle against capitalism. Class struggle is the only true struggle period.
No.550777
if anybody wants to fuck these idiots up financially, hit me up on telegram @mityakar
No.550778
>>550775Yall know stalin was from georgia, right? He came from the south and took over the confederacy of soviet socialist republics. The yankee americans hated them cuz they were southern.
No.550779
>>550777Only if I get their funds into my pocket
No.550780
>>550779We can sure as hell try
No.550781
Back to your containment thread storeshitters
No.550782
>>550774>Behold: the master race.Idpol
No.550783
>>550774Why do you post chrischan, idiot?
No.550785
>>550783You can't look at that grotesque slab of fat and meat and tell me the person beneath it all isn't going full Chris-Chan mode.
He's even got the awkward mannerisms down pat.
No.550786
>>550769God I wanna fuck that twink
No.550787
>At the national level, we maintain a database of Marxists, Antifa elements, and other subversives. At the local level, we collect intelligence in support of IRL operations. This includes internet research, as well as IRL scouting, dry runs, and even surveillance. The Intel Div member will assist the national goals and other local chapters, while also providing his own local leadership with a direct line to this national asset.from the fbi.gov leak
https://vault.unicornriot.ninja/patriotfrontleaks/2017-Vanguard_America-Patriot_Front/fbi.gov/SouthernFront.tar.xz No.550788
>americansalso
>/pol/-tier larperssee why we don't care?
their only use is cringe entertainment value. actually I was reading about the 2019/2020 leaks last month when researching muh antifas (
https://torchantifa.org/inside-patriot-front/ ) and was about to make a thread where I searched them for fun but the so-called data dumps were only a few small image PDFs, can't even grep through them.
But seeing as this is machine readable data, I've downloaded the membership.patriotfront.us and pf3618.bloodandsoil.org Rocket Chat longs and am willing to search for your chosen words or phrases to see how many times they appear.
no, 'leftypol' doesn't appear. /pol/ (pol[^ioae] with manual inspect) has about 60 results, including this one:
>{"event":"sendMessage","message":{"_id":"oDcHzAscSkrdySPGD","_updatedAt":"2021-12-12T00:58:26.663Z","channels":[],"mentions":[],"msg":"Ok, I am back on. Since you are not on mumble I will just tell ya here. I had a cousin mention Patriot Front to me, because he saw it on /pol/ and looked it up and found the news clip from Appleton WI about my stickers. LOL. He said he is a little too old for the group (he is) but said this is what the country needs now and asked me if I thought they were Feds (because he knows I janny on /pol/)." No.550789
>>550788Are they nazis of psy op?
No.550791
>>550789Not sure why you think I would know, but to me it looks like 'founded for dumb young kids, by dumb young kids'. Their praxis is photo-op marches and putting up stickers that people take down a couple of minutes later.
No.550793
>>550789One does not exclude the other
No.550794
>>550793You think elites and their institutions are nazis?
No.550796
>>550792This but unironically. To my knowledge, antifa groups and fash groups both exploit the feds to get at each other, and they'd be crazy not to. It's not like Europe where you see them breaking into apartments and fucking their shit up.
mod edit: [peertube link redacted upon user request, video in >>703848 ] No.550798
>>550794Not exactly, but they’re more than willing to truck with them for political expediency
No.550800
>>550798Can you flesh this out? So elites aren't nazis, but they use nazis?
No.550801
>>550799 Why aren't they fascists in ideological sense? How do you define profit? Also what do you mean by fascisms? State control over business…?
No.550802
>>550792You have to be really skeptical about any claims these groups make about themselves. They can't even organize a quick jog down the National Mall under heavy police protection without getting their vehicles smashed to bits and they claim to run a Palantir-level surveillance operation against the antifas. If it was so effective, you'd think they'd be able to ward off attempts by the antifas to ruin their day.
No.550803
>>550800Exactly. Fascism emerges organically from certain middle strata like small business owners, yeoman, certain upper-crust workers, etc. It initially has its own agenda that pushes both against the proletariat and to some extent against the monopoly bourgeoisie. However this strata is not numerous or wealthy enough to wield power independently, and so it can only do so by aligning itself with the monopoly bourgeoisie, and purging its original middle class cadres. Through this process it becomes a tool of the monopoly bourgeoisie.
No.550805
>>550801>Why aren't they fascists in ideological sense? Because that would require actually giving a shit about social values, the nation, traditions, etc. They don't care about these, and will slip seamlessly from "nation and volk" to "bodies and spaces" in the blink of an eye.
>How do you define profit?The accumulation of capital via surplus extraction.
>Also what do you mean by fascisms? State control over business…?By fascism I mean the open dictatorship of capital through political terror.
No.550809
>>550806uyghas will say "we conquered it, we didnt steal it" but then they will scream and cry about invasive ideologies, native minorities and american traitors who support communism
No.550812
>>550808I don't see any squats. This mother fucker really out here skipping leg day.
Gay.
No.550813
>>550803Are you making observations about american elites, or is this a stump speech?
No.550816
>>550814Whoops, forgot about WebRTC. Thanks, will ask mod to edit my post
No.550817
>>550805So they aren't fascist? You just use it as a generic insult?
What the hell does this mean in modern america?
By capital you mean american elites?
No.550819
>>550818is that texmex cuisine? looks nice
No.550821
>>5508185/10; has asparagus. would repost on /r/shittyfoodporn if I used reddit in the past 10 years
No.550822
>>550821>wahh asparagusare you 5
No.550823
>>550822No, asparagus is why it was able to earn a 5, that and the fried potato bits. bitch basic but implies a good decision.
No.550824
>>550822it makes my pee smell and I don't like that at all
No.550825
>>550824 >>550821 (me)
it makes my pee smell and i like it a lot
No.550826
>>550815>The day has finally come>You've trained your body for this>200 push-ups a day, every day>Your upper body strength is unbelievable>Mobilize with your aryan brothers to do battle outside the local CVS>Get on the scene with your shields>Randolph starts sweating mid march, giving off this sour musk like spoiled milk>Needs to put his should down to breath>Send him to the back of the line>Tyler is carrying his shield in an awkward angle, ends up pulling something in his shoulder>Eventually the people on the front are either lard-asses or lanklets>Finally come face to face with Antifa>Battle is upon you!>One of the Antifa dudes charges>You can tell he doesn't do push-ups>Raise your shield, brace for impact>140 pounds of rage slam against your protection>Your weak knees give out>You take a step back, then another, tripping the people on your back>The lanklets collapse almost immediately, soon enough you're getting smashed in the side of your face>Pain tolerance basically non existent, you begin to tear up>antifa warrior steps atop you, applying force that shouldn't be possible.>He lifts his jeans up, his calfs are perfect.>The last thing you hear before steel toed boots smash your face to pulp is a single phrase.>"Shouldn't have skipped leg day, brah." No.550827
>>550817NTA, but they will tend towards fascism in moments of crisis. “Capital” is the capital-owning class, especially those who own large corporate monopolies, but also financiers.
No.550829
>>550827Do you mean a totalitarian state? Where they will control the economy/nation via the large state?
No.550832
>>550829>Totalitarianism>The economy/nation are commensurateWe’ve got a long way to go. What do you think the state is and where does it come from?
No.550833
>>550830haha that's a major rejection rate, and I've seen the morons they let in
but you're right, you need people dumb enough to believe that shit AND dumb enough to get past 'fascism bad' american status quo after the total failure of nazis
No.550835
>>550832Biggest and most powerful business, we made it up
No.550836
>>550835Okay, but people didn't make up the state for no reason, and even if they were to do so, it can’t survive without material conditions that support its existence, such as the development of surplus, specialization of labor, and the creation of classes with a specific relationship to this surplus.
No.550837
>>550836I don't know. It seems to me, that in the last 100 years, we had an huge growth of what it does and how big it is. And it doesn't seem to be working that great. So who knows what's next
No.550839
>>550838To be fair it could be a pseudonym, I hope they're not THAT retarded
No.550840
>>550837What does this even mean specifically?
No.550841
>>550834jfc even we have better security and we're public
No.550842
>>550838>>550839They do, it's a protocol where they're assigned a random name by staff IIRC
No.550843
>>550840nta but they're probably referring to stuff like the security state, and increase of state bureaucracy in different spheres of activity through welfare and corporatization and stuff
No.550844
>>550829Fascism doesn't need to be a top-down vertically managed state where everyone is a cog in the machine. The romantic image of Jeffersonian frontier yeomen small homesteaders that today manifests among the suburbanite petty bourgeoisie, as well as militia and cop fetishism is a form of American fascism, and it is decentralized and polymorphous and highly individualistic.
No.550846
>>550845both are equal before my 12 gauge slugs
No.550847
>>550830Why do the label look like they have been written over multiple times.
No.550848
>>550846based and cheka’d
No.550849
>>550845Missed opportunity not putting a dragon dildo instead of a knife on the gun.
No.550853
>>550774ugh, why are chris chan's nipples so big?
also i need eyebleach now.
No.550854
>>550834Goddamn I hate knowing some of these fuckers live in the same state as me. Probably even in the same county.
No.550855
>>550786He’s underage you Agent Kochinski
No.550859
>>550858how is that gay? wouldn’t it be the opposite since gay people stereotypically dress weird and dress codes are meant to stop people from dressing weird?
No.550860
>>550859Yeah but we can be on the fastidious side
No.550863
>>550862do you unironically think porn is gonna offend us
No.550866
>>550865t. me in the bathroom at your sister's reception
No.550870
>>550869Why the fuck do people keep posting QR codes on this board, is it CP or something?
No.550872
>>550870why tf would it be cp?
No.550873
>>550872Why tf would you post a QR to link to something instead of just linking to it directly?
I don't understand you fucking zoomers
No.550875
>>550873because it's meant to be put up physically dumbass
didn't know reading and picking up basic clues was a "zoomer" thing
No.550876
>>550875How do you physically put something up by scanning a QR code what the fuck are you talking about
No.550878
>>550867Is this what "patriots" are doing? These twinks are power bottoms.
No.550880
>>550867You lefties pretend this is gay, but this just shows that you know nothing about IRL political organizing. It is absolutely necessary to know how to find a potentially hidden object on someone and it is also necessary to know how it feels to be searched meticulously by an investigative hand. Just because you have to touch somebody's cock to make sure he isn't a threat it doesn't make you gay.
No.550881
>>550854I do too, but then I remember that I have a good general idea of where one of these idiots might be. Will post faces if I find 'em.
No.550882
>>550881Based af, pls find their ugly mugs so we can laugh at them
No.550883
>>550880>mocking something means you don't understand its purposeIs /pol/ actually this autistic? Is the average user there so braindead and american that this becomes a reasonable assumption
>IRL political organizingThe FBI fears Free Breakfast for Children No.550884
>>550880Why do you go fuck off and be gay some where else with your other paranoid bros. That way you can touch each others dicks to make sure that you don't have anything hidden in there. Might as well do anal as well because according to you they may be hiding it in their ass.
No.550885
>>550880It's okay if you like to touch cocks dude, I'd let you suck mine. If you're cute and take care of yourself.
No.550887
>>550882As I said before, I've seen stickers they've put up on a BLM march, following the march route.
One of them is probably in Simi Valley, California, given he set up stickers all around the parade route and it's pretty infamous as a Klan Town down there.
No.550888
>>550880Can't tell if very funny joke or very funny bait, but either way 10/10 anon
No.550892
>>550887It's an actual sundown town?
No.550893
>>550884>Might as well do anal as well because according to you they may be hiding it in their ass.I think Patriot Front will need to ramp up their security protocols after this incident… full cavity searches for everyone
Before every meeting
No.550894
>>550892It used to be the headquarters of the SoCal chapter of the Ku Klux Klan. The officers who beat Rodney King were tried out there precisely because everyone knew they wouldn't be punished out there. To this day it's filled with off-duty cops and Right Wingers of all stripes.
They're definitely active in the area, as I said we saw Patriot Front stickers throughout the route, whether that was a local that put them up or a fascist in driving distance, I can't be entirely sure. I might travel up there some time, see if I can't find any stickers of theirs and tear it up. Will post pics.
No.550895
>>550894Right if you're a POC be safe, if not still be safe, just fuck their shit up as best as you can, while staying safe.
No.550896
>>550876You’re the same idiot from the IdPol thread. The same guy who doesn’t understand how psyops work.
No.550897
>>550895I ain't too worried. Most of these dumbasses are morbidly obese or lanklets. Nothing worth fretting about.
No.550898
>>550897Have you ever wanted to shoot a chinletfat in the stomach to watch the fat explode in Minecraft?
No.550900
>>550897I ran off a group of them by myself one time while they were putting up stickers. All anyone has to really do is yell at them and start filming and they'll run… or most likely will because they're terrified of confrontation and being photographed unmasked. But if they slug anyone here that's not my fault.
No.550901
>>550884>Might as well do anal as well because according to you they may be hiding it in their ass.kek
No.550902
>>550896Ok I’m not a zoomer I don’t know when or why QR codes started being used this way but I don’t like or understand it
No.550903
>>550788That women = jews got me lmao, my sides.
No.550904
>>550845Kek there's so many layers of wrong in the larper that I can't even believe it is possible someone could get this retarded, but then again I remind it is the U.S.
Also, the U.S. government monopolized fascism, I don't know why they'd try.
No.550905
>>550867what the fuck is this
No.550906
>>550880Yeah, you can buy a metal detector, instead, you like to grip on some crotches.
No.550907
>>550906You can 3d print guns that are completely undetectable unless you meticulously touch. A lot of people already have plastic guns, it's a realistic threat. I'm not letting one of you lefties near my commander without giving you a thorough touchdown.
No.550908
>>550902I know right. Stupid zoomers. Why don't they just type
https://unicorn-riot-leak.com like normal people.
No.550909
>>550907>are completely undetectableYou can't print bullets, that, then again, can be detected by metal detectors.
No.550910
>>550907Stop this larp, dude
No.550911
>>550908that guy is definitely a seething troll
anyways, signal boost
>>550869 No.550912
>>550771what the fuck is that pic lmao
No.550913
>>550903Women really are the jews of gender.
No.550914
>>550908Literally yes, that’s the sensible way to do it
No.550916
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:2c87816e4c81990fb25bbca43dd8d578eaa55886&dn=patriotfront&tr=udp%3a%2f%2f9.rarbg.to%3a2920&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.opentrackr.org%3a1337&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fexodus.desync.com%3a6969
the torrent magnet link, not a QR code because i'm not a hecking soyjack zoomer of course =)
No.550917
>>550813>Are you making observations about american elitesI'm describing capitalist elites in general.
>>550817>So they aren't fascist?They are in the sense that they will deploy terroristic violence against the working class, but not in the sense that they actually give a shit about the nation, traditional values, and other fashoid spooks.
>You just use it as a generic insult?I use it to describe a political phenomenon.
>What the hell does this mean in modern america?It means reactionary forces prepared to deploy terroristic violence against the left.
>By capital you mean american elites?By capital I mean the capitalist class, which includes American elites as well as those of other countries.
No.550919
>>550918somebody just has to spraypaint over the patriotfront website links and leave the rest alone and it'll become some pretty good communist propaganda
No.550921
>>550920a picture of my butthole would be better
No.550923
>>550913what does this make jewish women exactly
No.550924
>>550834How do you discern between medium and average threat levels, lol?
Anyway, just like always, all the fascists are controlled and trolled by the authorities. Also, antifas are very likely to be controlled and trolled as well. No-party movements do not have the means to cleanse themselves.
No.550925
>>550797Do you suppose it was intentional? It better have been some primo trolling
No.550928
>>550927don't be a rightoid
No.550929
>>550927No, you need names for organizing. VPN and FB don't matter either. Join parties that have democratic centralism as that is the best fucking thing to make glowie infiltration pointless. If glowies don't control in some way the majority in the party, party will continue to function and will force glowed members to follow party line. Hell, during Russian Revolution, a lot of glowies who were tasked with bolsheviks were actually recruited by bolsheviks.
No.550930
>>550929lots of parties with demcent have been taken over by feds that used it to silence opposition. and it doesn’t stop a small leadership from controlling all of the party’s organs (the actually useful bits) and influencing elections
No.550931
>Join parties that have democratic centralism as that is the best fucking thing to make glowie infiltration pointless.
/leftypol/ once again proving itself filled with retards who are more prone to idolization than any kind of scientific development
No.550932
>>550927>What's the lesson to take away from thisDon't try to compete with a state that has monopolized fascism.
No.550933
>>550931I mean, it's not the bulletproof vest he's making it out to be, but it's generally correct that organizations with a higher degree of centralization are more able to resist infiltration.
The flip side is that if the Feds DO infiltrate they can seize complete control and render the whole thing useless. But the Bolsheviks correctly believed that the benefits outweighed the risks and history has vindicated them.
No.550934
>>550808
>all those situps We're gonna be fighting hunched cripples in 15 years lmao
No.550936
>>550921With cum leaking out. Damn I'm a horny mfer imma back off. I need an internet break.
No.550937
>>550935brb off to adopt a purring jew
No.550939
>>704818
Low T post
No.550940
>>550927They're making so many clownshoe decisions it's hard to know where to begin.
They want to appear like a "legitimate" and lawful organization but they wear masks and dress up like the Foot Clan from Ninja Turtles combined with the American Gladiators and they carry shields around – like obvious villains up to no good. So, the first lesson is that anonymity and legitimacy are incompatible. But they do this because they also engage in unlawful or "underground" activities (which hasn't risen above petty vandalism so far but still) like Tyler Durden's Fight Club. Yet they store data on their crimes in easily-accessible ways (including literal paper trails where they map out in detail exactly where and how they're going to do vandalism + photos and videos of them doing it with their faces uncovered) that can be easily dumped onto the internet.
In fact, because they're so paranoid, their decisions end up making them more vulnerable to disruption. It's a centralized control-freak org that exercises tight control over their members – because the leadership doesn't trust their own members to act in a disciplined manner – and then (like I said) stores lots of vulnerable data on those members; and they're terrible at internal security. So, lesson number two is that discipline ultimately has to be a collective self-discipline, not imposed from the top. Top-down imposed discipline only works when everything goes according to plan. When it doesn't, they scatter. They don't handle dynamic situations well; it makes them think too hard.
Another example of paranoia making them more vulnerable is their use of rented box trucks to move to jumping-off points for marches. They don't want opposition to identify their personal vehicles. But, once infiltrated, that doesn't matter and antifas smashed their vehicles up which were left defenseless, costing them thousands of dollars. So, to avoid that happening again, they have to keep their vehicles mobile during their marches, which pulls manpower away from their marches, making them look smaller when they want to look bigger. So, the mathematics and cost-curve doesn't work out for them. The antifas can beat them without fighting them, they simply can go after their data and logistics.
They also don't openly claim to be Nazis in public (again, because they want legitimacy, yet they fail at that, because they wear masks), and then can't help themselves into Sieg Heiling the moment their IRA-LARP video ends, and of course the unedited version gets dumped onto the internet which blows their optics. So they're not only liars, they're bad liars, which is even worse.
Thing is, I think part of their dysfunction comes from seeing antifa – their nemesis – wear masks, and they think "well let's also wear masks." But antifa wears masks because they're focused on the singular goal of disrupting organizations like this and do not seek "legitimacy," and antifa is not centralized but decentralized. So what antifa does is compartmentalized away from above-ground activism. Patriot Front tries to do "both" of those things under a single brand and fails at both.
All in all, Patriot Front built an organization that, with persistent effort, finally got the public attention they were seeking – and the attention they got was the wrong kind of attention. While panicky liberals might be afraid of the spooky Nazi march, hard lefties are not afraid of them at all. Hard lefties think they're an absurd joke deserving to get dunked on and bullied and their vehicles flipped over and smashed for fun. For a threadbare ideology that doesn't have much going for it other than aesthetics and intimidating the left, that doesn't work out. Secondly, much of the right thinks they're glowies propped up to make the rest of them look bad and justify police measures against the right in general.
How that happened, I'd theorize, is due to a post-Charlottesville adaptation going haywire in a post-Trump era. This group is basically a rebrand from Vanguard America, which was a more straightforward blackshirt LARP which the leaders figured was no longer viable after that disaster. They went "mask off" too soon, and now wanted plausible deniability, hence the American Gladiators getup to make them look like "patriots on the outside" while being "Nazis on the inside." It's basically a "false-flag" operation. This is an attempt to manipulate perception. If they're aggressed on, they could say "communists" are going after innocent "patriots," and then they try to radicalize potential supporters into accepting "fascism" as the answer. But now with Trump out of the picture (at least for now) and the mainstream right paranoid of agent provocateurs after the Capitol riot, their double-game looks incredibly sus to their own potential base of recruits.
>>550928Also this
No.550941
>>550940>But they do this because they also engage in unlawful or "underground" activities (which hasn't risen above petty vandalism so far but still) like Tyler Durden's Fight Club.a bunch of their members have been involved in hate crimes, some of the chat logs mention it and how they don't like the unnecessary police attention it brings
No.550942
>>550941also they don't go after "the left", they go after minorities because they're fascists. but mentioning that would be idpol and a no-no around here
No.550943
>>704818
>armchair flag
what a coincidence
No.550944
>>550935>the purring jewmy sides
No.550945
>>550943he's a swedish poltard using a flag he doesn't know what it means
No.550946
>>550945>swedish >beeing mentally retarded what a coincidence
No.550947
>>550940i noticed on 4 chans recently, especially on the blue boards where they have to clean up their act at least a little bit, a lot of the /pol/ shitters would have an extremely weird tendency to treat "classical" fascism as more "respectable" than nazism. putting aside the obvious, glaring fact that not even "normies" will fall for it, they're just awful at even keeping up that pretense
No.550948
>>704981
>Like anarcyachieved.gif
you know that's a picture of people getting stuff for a barricade right
No.550949
>>550945Ah so that's why he's been posting pictures of himself I wouldn't mind so much if he wasn't fat and ugly
SWEDEN YES No.550950
>>704996
Yes, you push a trash can over and then roll it to where you need it to go. This isn't that hard to figure out.
No.550951
https://vault.unicornriot.ninja/patriotfrontleaks/2021/Mega.nz%20Files%20N-Z/Virginia_Drilling/20211120_130642.mp4 (fucking upload limits)
/Pol/jak Summer Camp Virginia 2021
Look at these strong aryan youth learning useful as fuck tactics
Black bloc could never
No.550956
>>550818Real
gulag chef material tbh
No.550958
>>550788>>550903schizo and weinigerpilled
No.550961
>>550941Have you seen any other specific examples of hate crimes and so forth in the data dump? I saw one example of a member gloating about attacking a Hispanic person but that didn't seem like an action carried out under the rubric of the organization like the vandalism. The bulk of their activity as a group seems to be pasting posters and stickers, but they will often use a residue that makes them hard to remove which defaces the surface – and there are cases of members being cited by police for vandalizing public property. In the case of private property such as homes or businesses, that's up to the people who had their property defaced if they want to press charges. They also seem to enjoy stealing BLM and Pride flags from homes and businesses.
(BTW, a bottle of water and a rag is enough to destroy their glue-pasted posters most of the time, just wet the rag and scrub and it will dissolve the paper, leaving nothing but the residue behind, so it'll look like a blank white poster with all the ink melted off)
Where they'd get mega-fucked by the law is if they vandalized churches or synagogues, and one member was slapped with a hate crime charge for that. Thing is, that guy used stickers for a different organization (the World Church of the Creator) to vandalize the synagogue but he was also pasting Patriot Front stuff around the same area – so it seems the organization itself tries to steer clear of religious buildings. But like I said, they can't trust their own dipshit members.
It makes you wonder whether they're vulnerable to some kind of conspiracy law since they are in effect carrying out a nationwide vandalism spree with the top guys in the group signing off on it. The flip side is that the cops probably don't care anyways and vandalism isn't a federal crime.
>>550947Yeah I've noticed that too. I think they also like to pretend it's more "intellectual" and it might be a reaction to increasing interest on the left in Marxism which carries a kind of power. But like you said, whatever pretensions the Italian fascists had was always a waxwork. I've even seen some try to claim that fascism logically follows from Marxism which makes no sense but sounds like the kind of thing a "natsec" nerd and glowie like A. James Gregor would say while tenured at UC Berkeley back in the 60s while receiving military-industrial contracts. Also see the "post-left" in this regard, the Infracels, "patsocs" and so forth. Also probably some pro-China stuff here as well but they cannot possibly claim the Chinese have anything to do with Nazism, yet they have a strong state that Gets Stuff Done which therefore means it's fascist to these guys if you squint at it enough.
No.550963
>>550954just guys being dudes
No.550965
>>550964btw it's worth noting DC is a majority Black city, aside from housing the heart of the beast. there're some points in these videos where he zooms the camera onto random dark-skinned pedestrians
From the Heart Church Ministries is also a Black protestant church
No.550966
>>550964That document was the plan for their D.C. march in December. You can see them standing here waiting for pickup and the pic from the document.
But the plan called for three trucks to pick them up, while only one was available, because smashies got to two of those trucks along with their personal vehicles while they were off speedrunning through the National Mall. It looks like the smashies didn't get all three trucks because the group kept one truck idling in a different parking lot to avoid drawing too much attention. I'm not sure why they thought that would work but it did save one truck from getting knocked out.
Another funny thing about the data dump is that they call the cops on themselves before marches because they want a police escort, but they do it with burner phones and pose as concerned citizens.
No.550968
>>550967Penetrate my buttocks, führer!
No.550970
>>550954All this homoeroticism. I bet they think Top Gun is a """straight""" film.
No.550971
>>550814based German AFA
>>550818looks decent enough
No.550972
if the poltard keeps trolling this thread, i will post more embarrassing stuff from the leaks here
No.550975
Anyone find it kinda conspicuous that they started to reactivate in October 2021, the same month the CIA declared war on China?
No.550976
>>550975who declared war on who?
No.550978
>>705106
>doing a violence is keewl
>but only when I [dream of] do[ing] it
Yes? That's just politics. Do you think politics to be a non-violent process?
No.550979
>>550977Literally why do most of these guys look like Twinks?
No.550981
>>550980Care to share the dox?
No.550982
>>550980These people are just the biggest dumb little group of twinks
No.550984
>>705009
>And rolling does work, yes. But it's more quicker to carry it two at a time. Requires grip strength tho'.
NTA, but why use more effort then you need to if you can move something by yourself with less? That's not even a grip strength thing, that's just something everyone who works in a trade practices.
No.550987
>>550983Thanks. Sorry to be boomer brained with this stuff but is there an easier way to view the info than notepad?
No.550989
>>550988Thanks Comrade.
Hoping to find out who the Cali Nazis are.
No.550990
>>550986El Ogro de las Americas…
No.550992
>>550991could be someone that took down one of their stickers and then posted about it
No.550994
>>550796<This but unironically. To my knowledge, antifa groups and fash groups both exploit the feds to get at each other, and they'd be crazy not to. It's not like Europe where you see them breaking into apartments and fucking their shit up.mod edit: [peertub
Wh just get Ur hammer and keep hitting them until they mostly stop moving. It isn't hard.
No.550996
>>550995These people are ridiculous, but that doesn’t stop them from being dangerous
No.550998
>>550996I like that Mao quote about taking your enemy seriously tactically but holding them in contempt strategically.
No.550999
>>550997>Also I'm wondering if this doc is from one of their members.Yeah. This Morris kid apparently moved to Texas to live in a house with some other members. The question I have is: why the hell is his water bill in the data dump?
No.551001
>>550774well at least Christina is honest about it
both wearing women's clothes and wanting to fuck her mother No.551002
>>550769>Commissars Cletus and JamalThat meme is a deep drive into the American psyche.
No.551003
>>550845Just a question. Who has the best aim and why?
No.551004
>>550912Just a twink in some alternative history time line that will repopulate EVROPVE by getting boypreggers.
You know, the usual stuff.
No.551005
>>550997>ModocI've been there in Fallout!
No.551007
>>550959Wtf is this even for?
No.551009
>>551005If I remember right, in one of the original Fallout games, if you go towards the vague direction of Simi Valley you'll get your head blown off by some lunatics or something. It's no man's land.
It's pretty fucking fitting.
No.551012
>>551011Fucking sad, actually.
No.551013
>>551011poor fella, got his life and chin stolen
No.551016
>>550940People shit on antifa for being cringe but the fact they can disrupt the far-right so much that emulating (and failing) them shows just how rent free they are in their heads.
No.551017
>>551016>People shit on antifa for being cringeWho does? The kind of people that think the right are spooky and cool?
No.551018
>>551011>This one was apparently groomed into Nazism at the age of 12.There's a pic made by Nordiska Rikspartiet from the 70s. There's a boy, like 10 years old. The pic was also featured on a calendar they sold YEARS after the pic was taken.
No.551019
>>551011child abuse, but for le white rayce
No.551020
>>551017yes some people here IIRC back during Charlottesville, those people that will form the stupidpol and post left now.
No.551021
>>551017There was a trend on the old Bunkerchan that was like this.
>>551016I think they've gotten better and the past few years brought a lot of new people into it. The other thing is that street fights make for a spectacle, but "experts study logistics" as the old saying goes, and the antifas are much, much less likely to gloat about their victories or even post them as propaganda. The antifas prefer to keep the cameras off themselves while fascists prefer to keep the cameras on themselves – there are tradeoffs to both approaches. But I get the sense, at least relative to their opposition, that the antifas are more focused on the task at hand: disrupting the Nazis. If you want to do political activism, there are other organizations for that. And when they hit Patriot Front's parked vehicles (causing ~$20,000 in damages), that was not public until they dumped Patriot Front's data which included video of the Nazis jumping out of their box truck to discover what had happened.
Here are the antifas finally making it public on an anarchist website the other day, including that video I just mentioned:
https://itsgoingdown.org/antifascist-action-against-pf-dc-communique/Nobody said shit. Then the dump also happened the day Patriot Front did another march, so the antifas timed it for a strategic effect. The antifas are one step ahead of them and have the initiative.
Another thing the antifas have going for them is depth. Unicorn Riot, the website which hosted the dump, has the code-monkey infrastructure to do that (I don't know anything about tech).
Dunno what else. I think the last thing is probably knowing your enemy, and knowing your enemy's contradictions, both within their groups but also between different groups of enemies and then specializing to deal with each one differently. It's better to take the right apart in a piecemeal fashion – smaller targets to more difficult targets – than trying to square off with a single, big, mean, united right.
No.551022
>>551021I myself think that Antifa’s praxis is limited in scope and efficacy at best, but these are people who, anarkiddies, radlibs or otherwise, have the motivation, discipline and ability to work in groups to fight thugs in their community compared to a glorified gang of violent hooligans who’re into spectacle and shock value. It’s like in the fall of 2020 when it was some dude claiming they had done “wardriving” to doxx a bunch of “antifas”, when it was really a file gathered by a dipshit librarian who was then thoroughly doxxed to hell.
No.551023
well thats a big ole fucking KEK from me.
Anybody want to collate the hits for a post in the eso hitler thread? I'm gonna be away for a few days and I don't want to lose this gold
No.551025
>>551011Almost feel bad for the kid. Hope he gets out.
>>551021>Go to a rally with all your Nazi friends>Dozens of you>Hundreds of people come out and counter protest.>Someone mentions you just got doxxed.>Look over your shoulder>Start sweating>"Take off your mask, we're gonna know who you are by the end of this anyways!">Start looking around>Leader tries to distract you with some stupid chant.>Bark out the 14 words to calm yourself down.>All the while you're thinking what's going to happen to you.>Your parents are going to see your twitter profile called 'Gutrum Dietrich' with its custom anime nazi girl profile pic>Your boss is going to see all those posts where you cheer on some synagogue bomber>Your coworkers, including a few libs and minorities, are going to learn that the 'quiet polite guy' wrote fanfics called "uyghur rape kill squad">Everytime anyone sees your bloated ass walking down the street, they're going to laugh and call you an ubermensch.>Or they'll just beat the shit out of you.>You've never even been in a real fight.>You can feel the blood pooling in your mouth.>You've got to get out of here. You've got to get home. No.551026
>>550998tactical pessimism and strategic optimism
No.551028
>>551027God what a fucking retard. Can't even hide his embezzlement behind some shitty "small business" or something
No.551029
>>551025I wouldn’t just say almost. This is a twelve year old, they don’t know any better, and this might very well be grooming, in the political way AND the kiddie diddler way
No.551030
>>551029I started using /pol/ when it was created at age 11 and didnt stop using it until i was 17
Probably happens a lot huh? Kids just growing up on 4chan?
No.551031
>>551021Antifa stay living rent free in the heads of right wing militia wannabes. What makes antifa effective is their disorganized nature. Working centralized organization will always be very peaceful and disciplined, the same discipline you get from a good union strike. The right will forever be stooges of Capital because they are the strike breakers. You could never be a right winger standing in a union strike yelling for a higher wage because that goes against your very nature as a capitalist stooge.
The largest irony is that the far right is more closer to serving the "Jew" that they fear than the working class factory man fighting to negotiate for a higher wage.
The radical Syndicalist man who according to fascists "threaten to lead the nation into anarchy" will always be the one who truly disrupts capital: "the Jew". But the far right could never admit they want to protect the Jew's private property. To the mods I'm only using Jew in the way fascists claim Jews are. Because if we take what fascists say as fact then that means that Jews are the protectors of private property, which maintains capitalism. This makes fascists Jews lmao. Fascist logic everybody: I want to defeat Jews to become a Jew myself!
Anyways that's enough of my rant. Far right are hypocrite retards, communism is the only way.
No.551032
>>551030Yep. Though capitalism is to blame in some degree for forcing parents to give up their parenting duties to the internet
No.551033
>>551022>I myself think that Antifa’s praxis is limited in scope and efficacy at bestIt is limited in scope. But that is not such a bad thing, because if it was unlimited in scope, then that might be inefficient. Really, "it is what it is" and it isn't a substitute for other forms of organizing. The other thing is that there isn't one way to be an antifascist, like the girl heckling those guys at their demo is doing antifascist activity and it doesn't require her to wear a mask or smash anybody. So, I think anti-fascism should be something a lot of people can participate in, in a lot of different ways (including in the above-board political arena), and not outsource everything to the smashies, but also leaving some things to the smashies as well (namely the smashing). I also think antifascism without an anti-imperialist component as well is a failure.
>>551027>Based Furrer Rosseau doesn't have to work for a living! :DDDDHe even sells the stickers and flyers they put up and requires them to do it every week. It's a nice little racket going if he can keep it. $$$
No.551034
>>551033In other words, I think it's better to think more dialectically. There are merits to what antifas do, but it's also limited. One would fail to see the whole picture if one says something is useless on account of its defects.
No.551035
>>551022>>551033>>551034you don't realize the point of black bloc is to account for this. individuals can anonymize themselves and kneecap fascist movements without drawing on leftist orgs and their resources as a result
No.551036
>>551033>>551034Yeah pretty much, perhaps defects would be more accurately described as limitations
>>551035Yeah. I think anon and you largely agree though
No.551038
>>551021Am i the only one who thinks this shit is fucking faked? It feels so forced, and what kind of fucking org name is unicorn riot anyway? Reeks of feds
No.551040
>>551038>Am i the only oneyes.
No.551041
>>551038Possibly?
But I’d like to know for what purpose considering patriot front itself seems to glow
No.551043
>>551039What a bunch of dipshits. The fact that people like this are allowed to associate with socialism is disgusting
No.551044
>>551043Whatever your opinion of them and their optics, they delivered the goods on this occasion. One should not look a gift unicorn in the mouth
No.551045
>>551044What "goods" did they deliver? Ratting out a couple of losers in an obvious fed psyop? All that's been "accomplished" is anarchists feeling good about themselves, prompting more people to join them thinking they can make real change, thus allowing them to easily be steamrolled by the capitalist state. Without a vanguard party there is no chance of revolution.
No.551046
>>551045What bug crawled up your ass? Enjoy the kino
No.551048
>>705923
You’re mad for no reason over something really trivial
No.551049
>>551030kek
never thought somebody would save that shit
No.551052
>>551025>>Your coworkers, including a few libs and minorities, are going to learn that the 'quiet polite guy' wrote fanfics called "uyghur rape kill squad"I actually work with an actual /pol/tard who everyone knows as the quiet polite guy and I used to talk history with him and quickly realized he was an unironic Nazi and imageboard user and I managed to convince two of my coworkers that he isn't all that "quiet and polite" on the inside lol
No.551053
>>551052Half of the /pol/tards out there are the same fucking personality type.
You talk to them, and they're "polite" in the sense that they're too afraid to have an actual personality–maybe in fear of their persona not meeting others standards, I dunno.
They have vague interests in "history" but that almost always boils down to pop-culture ancient history. Really it's more fantasy than anything.
They're known for being "smart" but it's mostly just above-average intelligence. It's not like they read or anything.
I'll say this, at least the skinheads have actual personality in spite of being pieces of shit. These /pol/ types, they're mostly just pudgy pale faces and masturbation addicts. They look soft from a life of privilege, but they erroneously grasp for some "masculinity" within the framework of Capitalism because they realize they're soft and they hate themselves for it.
No.551054
>>5510502 chins and 2 hapsburg jaws out of six?
No.551056
>Most files are very large in terms of MBs
epic, now it's either running out of space or me just doing nothing but screenshotting and cropping
No.551057
>>551046he's some fucking loser mortified of the idea that people might actually do praxis and have the word unicorn in their name instead of fantasizing about shooting steroids and chopping firewood while listening to albanian marching music
No.551059
>>551058Any exif data on these photos that might be useful?
No.551060
We need up to 3 threads at best if we gonna talk about this.
Anyway copypasting the README:
This torrent archive contains nearly 500 gigabytes of leaked records from Patriot Front, a U.S.-based neo-nazi organization with chapters around the country. This leak includes videos, photos, documents, and chat messages.
Unicorn Riot is releasing this information as part of our work covering far-right, white supremacist and neo-nazi
organizations. If you find this release useful, please consider making a donation (tax-deductible in U.S.) to our
nonprofit media organization:
https://unicornriot.ninja/donateFor more, see our Far-Right Investigations Desk:
https://unicornriot.ninja/far-right-investigations-desk/2017 reporting on Patriot Front:
https://unicornriot.ninja/2017/southern-front-logs-expose-neo-nazi-extremist-cell/2018:
https://unicornriot.ninja/2018/americans-fascists-inside-patriot-front/Additional files from these reports on Patriot Front are included in the 2017 and 2018 directories.
Previously leaked Patriot Front and Vanguard
America fbi.gov chats can also be viewed on DiscordLeaks:
https://discordleaks.unicornriot.ninja/fbi.gov/server/2https://discordleaks.unicornriot.ninja/fbi.gov/server/5https://discordleaks.unicornriot.ninja/fbi.gov/server/6https://discordleaks.unicornriot.ninja/fbi.gov/server/7(Vanguard America was the predecessor organization to
Patriot Front, with overlapping membership.)
Other stories related to Patriot Front are linked here:
https://unicornriot.ninja/tag/patriot-front/The files in this torrent archive are also available at:
https://vault.unicornriot.ninja/patriotfrontleaks/RocketChat is open-source chat server software similar to
Slack, a messaging platform with multiple channels.
The data here includes chat rooms, direct messages,
and file attachments. The RocketChat file attachments and
screenshots are zipped. Machine-readable versions of Patriot
Front RocketChat messages are included as JSON files.
JSON copies of previously leaked Patriot Front and Vanguard
America fbi.gov chats are also included. 7zip
(
https://www.7-zip.org/ ) can expand these .xz archives.
You can also view this RocketChat archive on DiscordLeaks:
https://discordleaks.unicornriot.ninja/rocket-chat/The Mega.co.nz archives form more than 400 gigabytes of
this release. Patriot Front uses Mega to send packages
of raw video, photos and other media gathered in the
field during fascist propaganda operations. While many of
the media files were not labeled by date, a large number
have EXIF data which can be scanned via exiftool
(
https://exiftool.org/ ) to determine when the pictures
and videos were taken.
Torrent hosting courtesy of DDOSECRETS
No.551061
>>551059>exif dataThere may be some, but in order to extract all exif data i must download all the files, of which are horribly large.
No.551063
>>551061torrent here, with a vpn of course
>>550916 No.551064
>>550988>You just need to download the 2 zip files.>648MBepic
that demonstrates how yuge this leak is
No.551065
>>550980>The RocketChat leaks are amazing btw>They have the interviewees straight up dox themselves with government-issued IDConfirmed we need a sequel and that previous threads must be archived
No.551066
>>551060>We need up to 3 threads at best if we gonna talk about this.Great. This thread has been thoroughly entertaining.
No.551067
>>550930That means they didn't have "demcent", lol. You can't silence the opposition with demcent, because democratic centralism implies freedom of debates, but unity of action, i.e. it's quite the opposite of silencing opposition, rather, it's about making the opposition to follow democratic decision that was made during the debates, not letting anyone to hide from doing what the people decided democratically. That is the point of democratic centralism. Due to democracy, feds can't force their decisions, and due to centralism, feds can't make people sabotage the democratic decision.
No.551069
>>551043We really need a "no whining" rule. Anyway the unicorn was actually believed to really exist by ancient Greeks so I'd think trad guys would be into it. The creature was also known for its ferocity and wildness and uses its unbreakable, mighty horn to escape from danger by leaping into canyons and then using the horn to catch its fall.
>>551047I like the thumbs up even if that guy's an anarchist. One of my favorite bits of Chinese propaganda was this song where a fighter pilot on the screen at 0:28 gives a thumbs up before blasting off.
>>551053I met one of those guys once who ended up going the Orthodox Christian route instead of the Nazi route. Nice guy actually but one thing I noticed is that he had some extreme personality issue and gave off "Patrick Bateman" vibes, like someone who was trying way to hard to "fit in" to the degree that it was almost manic. Also spoke in memes a lot of the time, made "edgy" chan jokes, and would literally dab after making them. It was bizarre but I wish no ill will on him, and if you had go down either the Nazi road or the Orthodox Christian road, take the Orthodox Christian one imo. Probably a lot healthier.
No.551070
>>551053Check out the "Write What's On Your Mind" threads on 4chan /lit/. They're full of incels with this pathology.
No.551074
>>551072Translation errors, they were referring to an aurochs.
No.551076
>>551021>https://itsgoingdown.org/antifascist-action-against-pf-dc-communique/
>Despite Patriot Front being a cool 2-3 hours late to their own damn actionlmao
No.551078
>>551050>hold fists together and below their faceThe fuck are they even doing? Are there any videos of them doing mitt work? The photos look hilarious.
No.551079
>>550776The American far right is almost entirely mainstream conservatives mixed in with /pol/tard murder fetishism and some libertarianism
>>550790>founded for dumb young kids, by dumb young kidsThat's pretty much all of these groups. I can think of multiple off the top of my head.
>>550799e.g. Azov Battalion
>>550808>reject poison>has stereotypical roider physique No.551081
>>550808is that like the same guy in both pictures? If that's his workout routine then holy shit my guy is on Ronnie Coleman levels of gear lol
No.551082
>>550800>>550800>https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/works/1944/1944-fas.htm
<The genuine basis (for fascism) is the petty bourgeoisie. In italy, it has a very large base – the petty bourgeoisie of the towns and cities, and the peasantry. In Germany, likewise, there is a large base for fascism …
>In the epoch of the rise, the growth, and the bloom of capitalism, the petty bourgeoisie, despite acute outbreaks of discontent, generally marched obediently in the capitalist harness. Nor could it do anything else. But under the conditions of capitalist disintegration, and of the impasse in the economic situation, the petty bourgeoisie strives, seeks, attempts to tear itself loose from the fetters of the old masters and rulers of society. It is quite capable of linking up its fates with that of the proletariat. For that, only one thing is needed: the petty bourgeoisie must acquired faith in the ability of the proletariat to lead society onto a new road. The proletariat can inspire this faith only by its strength, by the firmness of its actions, by a skillful offensive against the enemy, by the success of its revolutionary policy.
<But, woe, if the revolutionary party does not measure up to the height of the situation! The daily struggle of the proletariat sharpens the instability of bourgeois society. The strikes and the political disturbances aggravated the economic situation of the country. The petty bourgeoisie could reconcile itself temporarily to the growing privations, if it arrived by experience at the conviction that the proletariat is in a position to lead it onto a new road. But if the revolutionary party, in spite of a class struggle becoming incessantly more accentuated, proves time and again to be incapable of uniting the working class about it, if it vacillates, becomes confused, contradicts itself, then the petty bourgeoisie loses patience and begins to look upon the revolutionary workers as those responsible for its own misery. All the bourgeois parties, including the social democracy, turn its thoughts in this very direction. When the social crisis takes on an intolerable acuteness, a particular party appears on the scene with the direct aim of agitating the petty bourgeoisie to a white heat and of directing its hatred and its despair against the proletariat. In Germany, this historical function is fulfilled by national Socialism (Nazism), a broad current whose ideology is composed of all the putrid vapors of disintegrating bourgeois society. No.551083
>>551082This is why "is Trump a fascist or not" is asking the wrong question, rather he was produced by a similar process and petit-bourgeois unrest spawned these alt-right groups from the boomers' failchildren. Patriot Front's leader's dad apparently owns a small software company that makes databases for yacht races, and until recently, was living at a house his dad owns in Grapevine, Texas (until he got kicked out), which is like the most petit-booj part of the area.
It's not where the proles live but it's not straight booj like Highland Park or Southlake. The neo-Nazi mass shooter who traveled to El Paso to kill Hispanic people at a Walmart was also from Allen which is another suburb in the area similar to Grapevine.
No.551084
>>551069>Nice guy actually but one thing I noticed is that he had some extreme personality issue and gave off "Patrick Bateman" vibes, like someone who was trying way to hard to "fit in" to the degree that it was almost manic.I believe part of it is a maladaptive coping mechanism for autists and other socially inept types.
<Source: Am an AutistAmerica is a hellscape, especially suburban America. And contrary to a lot of the myths of "helicopter parenting" I'd say the suburban boomers were mostly absent in their kids' lives or passed on their pathologies to them. About the only place American children get an opportunity so socialize is in a school setting, and even there it's mitigated through cliques and only a scant amount of free time. If you were the kind of kid who was really introverted, or socially inept, it's easy enough to fall through the cracks and become socially stunted.
When I was a kid, for example, I was told often enough after school that I should "go outside and meet people." And y'know, I'd honestly try… but just about any place for people my age to gather wasn't in walking distance, the few that were usually charged you. Sure there was the local park, but almost instantly you're met with "Oh don't go there, there's homeless people living there!" And so a lot of the time you don't develop properly.
People with enough self awareness might try to mediate it through the only way they know: popular media and the internet. Like it or not, the internet is one of the few public "places" that just about anyone can access for free in this Godforsaken country.
And here's the thing, while the internet can be great for introverts, it can also create some bad habits. There's a million rabbit holes you can fall down to become some depraved Chris-Chan style attic ogre. And its easy to get a false idea of how people "work."
The first time some of these socially maladroit types try to take their internet persona out into the real world, they learn pretty quickly that there's different rules. And since they're not socializing that much, every bit of cringe sticks with them like a knife to their heart. They develop this deep internal world, which is mediated to them through pop media like video games and movies and anime, and they ascribe narratives to the wild chaos that's every day life. Grand narratives with villains and heroes and motives behind everything.
They form a dual character, that of the outward "quiet, average Joe" and an inward raving madman. I imagine it's almost like two completely different people, split to such an extent that they can right some hateful screed about how much they loathe Jews and Blacks and LGBT people, and then they go to their classes and they rub shoulders with all these people they supposedly hate and they're friendly. Just quiet.
And the thing is their "average joe" or "NPC" persona is a double-edged sword. Its developed as a mask for their internal world, but it makes them unremarkable and doesn't win them friends. They end up alienated further and further from people, and this is also why I think they make such a big deal about being "cancelled", they're surface deep to everyone, unremarkable. If the mask slips, well I imagine it'd be like that ending from "They Live" where everyone looks around and sees the Aliens surrounding them. They see that quiet guy who never bothered them was a mask, and beneath it was some inhuman psycho.
I mean, this is why to some extent at least the Skinheads could get trash-pussy sometimes. They had an actual personality. Virulent, ugly, and disgusting, but at least they seemed like a
person and not a robot.
No.551086
>>551084Good post. This kind of "splitting" is also something Roger Griffin described about mass shooters. It's why they're able to remain so calm and unnoticed for months or even years before their attack. He calls it "heroic doubling." You described it already, but it's like the Tyler Durden effect where they have a split personality: the normal everyday personality that's holding together just enough to go about their daily lives (while procuring supplies and equipment) and then there's the other personality which exists in the grand narrative – and the result in the case of these mass shooter and terrorist types is that the "heroic" narrative-driven personality finally devours the shattered the "quiet, average Joe" side of themselves. It's an apocalyptic but also personal and self-apocalyptic end to their narrative.
I'd say at least in the case of the guy I met who displayed some of these traits, that perhaps in the past – before he got into Christianity – I would've been really concerned about him doing something like that. The stories he told me about himself seemed to indicate he was headed down a path like that, that is, I had picked up on some "tells" here, and because he dabbled in extreme stuff for awhile. He also told me he wanted a theocratic monarchy, like Iran but Orthodox Christian, which I think is a bad solution to the problems that continue to plague us as a species, but he was going to church regularly and had something of a community going and was genuinely absorbed in the canon of the religion. I actually ran into his church group having lunch in a restaurant on a Sunday afternoon and talked to them for a few minutes and it was perfectly fine – and one of the things about living where I do is that "punching a fascist" doesn't even really make sense anyways because you'll end up running into the same people all the time. "A communist and an Orthodox Christian walk into a bar… they talk about the SSNP." You have to kinda get along with people.
But like I said, him getting involved in the church seemed overall positive for him. I haven't heard of any Orthodox Christians going on mass shooting sprees. Maybe, in theory, you could have some Ortho-Trad ISIS stuff but it doesn't seem like it meshes together.
No.551087
>>551084>The first time some of these socially maladroit types try to take their internet persona out into the real world, they learn pretty quickly that there's different rules. And since they're not socializing that much, every bit of cringe sticks with them like a knife to their heart. They develop this deep internal world, which is mediated to them through pop media like video games and movies and anime, and they ascribe narratives to the wild chaos that's every day life. Grand narratives with villains and heroes and motives behind everything.They form a dual character, that of the outward "quiet, average Joe" and an inward raving madman. I imagine it's almost like two completely different people, split to such an extent that they can right some hateful screed about how much they loathe Jews and Blacks and LGBT people, and then they go to their classes and they rub shoulders with all these people they supposedly hate and they're friendly. Just quiet.
Wow this is incredible, this pretty much perfectly described my inner life growing up. For whatever reason some people become benevolent
communist autists like me but yeah, I've noticed a lot of these fascist types are all very deeply nerdy people. I sometimes have to wonder if our society also breeds people to expect something "more" out of life than what it is actually able to provide. From an early age you get fed these fantastical images from movies, games and TV that you have to wonder if this shapes people in such a way that they're more amicable to fascism than not. I mean, it's all a big show right? Remember how when Christchurch was a thing they were making videogame edits with all this ridiculous shit thrown in like it was some fantastic spectacle? I think these people want to be entertained, and fascism becomes a vehicle in which, even temporarily they can live in something like what they grew up watching/playing.
No.551088
>>551087Well, it's like Fight Club. In the case of the movie, the "heroic doubling" between the Narrator and Tyler Durden is presented very literally: he's a schizo with a split personality. I don't think that's exactly how it works, but it's a useful enough metaphor for a movie. I don't think the lesson people should take from the movie is "wow this is based" either, but I also don't think the lesson is that these people are simply "crazy." Well, they are nuts. But it's like a very focused kind of crazy. And… we live in a society. And that society produced the Fight Club. So, society is crazy, man.
These Patriot Front guys are doing the same shit. They're running around at night and making videos set to bad retrowave music and wearing costumes and doing petty vandalism. It's basically a cult that tries to control their members' lives, and, if left to do their own thing, could conceivably develop into something more serious. They're the kind of guys who'd watch the movie and think the Fight Club is based and not a cry for help.
No.551089
i forgot where this claim that they try to present fascism as acceptable but it seems as if they have a dying hatred of shit that they deem to be "materialistic". They are really trying to tie marxism with valleygirl consumerism. I think they want to be seen as deep and edgy "INTJ" based archetypes but then fall over themselves with the fact that their ideology is simply not very well founded and a lot of it is simply a projection of the wishes that was implanted into them by the general cultural miasma of image boards
>>551053Your analysis here actually explains the weird obsession that /v/ and /tg/fags have over the "Human Male Fighter" archetype. It's sheer minimalism generally masks their inability to actually be very creative, not necessarily because they have no real creative instinct, people on image boards have created shit all the time but the lack of OC generally comes from a fear of being labeled as "Cringe". They must always win and always be the chad face. They can never self-deprecate and as such there is a general limit to their ability to create anything because they are afraid of looking vulnerable.
No.551091
>>551086Well, I'm glad he seems like he isn't going to go on a shooting spree. Also thanks for the vid, listening to it right now.
>>551087I'm not sure what's the "trigger" that railroads people towards Fascism or Communism, but I think beyond the fantastical stuff in society, there's a deceptive simplicity people are exposed to that frustrates would-be Fascists precisely
because they think it's more "real" than the fantastical stuff. I'm talking the Slice of Life bullshit you see on anime. Or advertisements of people hanging out with their friends.
I can't remember where I heard this. I wanna say it was the manifesto of Elliot Roger or some such (never read it, just heard portions of it second hand) but there was one InCel murderer who wrote on and on about how he'd, like, see couples having dinner in a restaurant together and he'd seethe that he wasn't there. He wrote some fantasy about taking this blonde woman out to a café, and just went on and on about the details like he was painting a picture… but he never actually engaged with what would be said, what the woman's personality was to be like, how they were supposed to meet. Y'know, the actual
person themselves.The reality is that Life is really complicated. Trying to box it into a metaphysical narrative, where you assume that people act like characters in a slice of life show, is overly simplistic. The InCel I mentioned above wanted to look back on his own life like it was a fucking commercial, where it doesn't matter what's being said or who he's sitting across from, all that matters are the "aesthetics." So of course he ends up being deeply dissatisfied with life.
>>551089I'd say its really important, psychologically speaking, for people to embrace a degree of cringe.
Children spend their time wondering if the show their watching, or the things they're doing, are girly or gay or stupid or some shit. Being able to embrace the weird to a degree can at least get people interested in you.
It's funny you mention the "Human Male Fighter" though. I play D&D with a few friends of mine, and to some extent there's patterns in how we make characters that, and this might be a reach, seem to give a bit of insight into each player's psychology.
No.551092
>>551091The thing about /tg/ is that nobody actually fucking plays tabletop games there. I even tried to get a game there and it basically never materialized. I tried that shit FIVE FUCKING TIMES from way back in the 2011 to now and it's still true. These assholes just read about people playing games and then larp about how their trad fighter guy is this super interesting character because he isn't cringe or whatever unlike the tieflings that apparently infest the hobby (Which I barely ever seen play outside of 4chan outside of an ironic edgelord character)
Basically they use cliches to supplement their ability to analyze anything, it's pure group thin
No.551095
>>551051>ZION_NATIONAL_PARKKek! Let me guess. It's where they gonna have their ethnostate and let James Mason impregnate Thomas Rosseau's bussy?
>>551021Kek! When was that filmed? :-)
>>551024>sigma femaleI'm in love!
No.551096
>>551089>They are really trying to tie marxism with valleygirl consumerism.Isn't it about maximizing the productive forces so that everyone can afford the best? :-/
>>551090>Why do they look so funny lolBrain damage from shrapnel in the bomb lab.
Big bombs doesn't build themselves. You gotta start small with models, you know.
No.551100
>>550802It's probable just a folder filled with twitter screenshots of people meming on them.
No.551101
>>551091>I'm not sure what's the "trigger" that railroads people towards Fascism or Communism, but I think beyond the fantastical stuff in society, there's a deceptive simplicity people are exposed to that frustrates would-be Fascists precisely because they think it's more "real" than the fantastical stuff.For communism in western countries, I think it's often the case that it attracts people who are not happy or are poorly adjusted as well, because if you're not happy then it's helpful to find a comprehensive framework to pinpoint why you and a lot of other people are not happy. Just because it happens to be significant to poorly-adjusted people, however, doesn't mean it's not accurate. What it does mean is that outside of some very unique historical circumstances, you're one step behind. Marxism is a *critical* framework, which can get in the way of embracing the current moment. Also the current moment with COVID and massive inflation is terrible to live through. So you can only trust in the historical process, which no one is in control of.
The people who seem to stick with it and don't get brain damage seem to fully embrace that last sentence and accept this fact. Easier said that done of course.
No.551102
>>551101a ton of people involved in politics, even radical ones, aren't some channer with issues
No.551103
>>551102Thing is, I think most of the population in the developed capitalist countries "have issues."
No.551104
>>551103that doesn't really mean much
No.551106
>>551101>Just sit on your ass and do nothing for it to happen Mass movements and revolutions are part of the course of history
No.551107
>>551106Men make their own history but they don't do it as they please.
No.551108
>>551101>>551102>>551103>>551104I mean to be fair, Fascists too have a way of pinpointing why they're unhappy. It's unscientific nonsense, but it still exists: usually it's just Jews or foreigners or women or liberals or something.
If I had to guess, I'd assume that faced with the nihilism of modern society, Fascists essentially embrace wanton cruelty and hate whereas Communists at least try to build something in spite of it.
>>551105I'll doing some further research into that Brandon guy. After all he left some stickers for a bunch of us to find; I assume he wants to share his beliefs with his neighbors.
No.551110
>>550776>Fascism I think has been "swallowed" into the neoliberal superstructure so that to be a fascist would mean to be a neoliberal/neoconservative. This is capitalist realism except for Nazis and the truth is communism still remains the only true proper politics to struggle against capitalism. Class struggle is the only true struggle period.if this was true they wouldn't be doxed and fired
No.551111
>>550762So I've been browsing the internets and the biggest thing that I get from right-winger is that this is somehow an FBI thing, and not actually retarded right-wingers that agree with them on 99% of issues. Is this just major cope, or the usual cowardice from the right whenever something doesn't go their way?
No.551112
>>551111>So I've been browsing the internets and the biggest thing that I get from right-winger is that this is somehow an FBI thing, and not actually retarded right-wingers that agree with them on 99% of issues. Is this just major cope, or the usual cowardice from the right whenever something doesn't go their way?I think it's a combination of everything and nothing at the same time.
PF managed to get some 100 men with normal BMI to show up at the same time with their clothes coordinated. And the J6-crowd shouts: "FEDS!"
I think that most of PF:s work was their own. But being incompetent, it would be a waste of resources to infiltrate them. Maybe they got one on the inside, but I doubt it. Because if shitty OPSEC turns into OPINT, why bother?
I'm also not buying that they got infiltrated by that 47-year old dude. Especially since they've got this 35-year cap.
No.551114
>>551113Neoliberalism is the most antihuman, dark tetradic ideology, and yet its proponents are the perfect samples for yielding 'high intelligence' test results.
If you want to go down the rabbit hole of ascribing essential qualities to groups in relation to intelligence, then funnily enough, you are indistinguishably following reactionary logic, since we can very easily supplant the subject from 'right-wingers' to 'blacks' etc.
Also, the platonic ideal is a fascistic concept. Communists are not platonists; dialectical materialists consists in the rejection of idealized forms.
No.551118
>>551115
Bullshit.
You have incredibly intelligent people like Kissinger exhibiting sociopathic behavior.
High functioning sociopathy essentially characterizes the workings of the highest offices in the land and the wealthy.
Not saying you have to be incredibly intelligent to be in that position, but supposedly autism score and “success” under capitalism go together.
No.551119
>>551118Yeah, and there's no correlation between a high general intelligence (
g) and generall industriousness (
i). Experience shows that if you want someone to really fuck things up, you need somene with a high autism score. And regarding climate change, the worst there is are men with a degree in civil engineering.
No.551120
>>551118That doesn't change the fact that most sociopaths (or psychopaths whatever) generally have low intelligence.
No.551121
>>551120Most of the ones that are caught and kept in room long enough to be tested as a sociopath.
No.551122
>>551119Do you?
If you want to throw a monkey wrench in the system, get a literal retard elected to the highest office.
No.551123
>>551122I don't think we get a choice any more, that's the only two options.
No.551124
>>551118The dynamic I described is true, you can look it up. Highly unintelligent people are more antisocial on average. The average antisocial person tends to be of lower than average or of average intelligence. One of the biggest predictors of highly prosocial behavior, even more than big 5/hexaco model traits like honesty/humility, agreeablness, and conscientiousness is high intelligence.
There is a sort of association in the societal understanding of highly antisocial or "evil" people being more intelligent than the average person, even while scientific testing tells that in many cases the opposite is true. It is my hypothesis that this is because the most powerful people in class society tend to be more antisocial than the average person, and said individuals that make up our ruling class tend to think of themselves and to idealize themselves as being highly intelligent. So they would want to portray themselves as such. Additionally many of them are comfortable and even proud of their antisocial inclinations, they identify with them in an ego-syntonic way, so of course they will want to portray their antisocial inclinations in a positive light. To appear evil is no shame but to appear stupid is. I think another factor is that people will naturally be suspicious of those that are more intelligent than them, as they see such people as a threat, similarily there is an association between a person's height and how suspicious other people perceieve them to be.
Was Kissenger actually that intelligent? One trait common of high functioning psychopaths, narcissists and machiavellians is that other people tend to predict them as more intelligent and more competent than others, even while those observations do not match objective and scientifically sound measurements.
No.551125
>>551123Well, if Biden is any indication, the U.S. is two for two so that’s clearly not true.
No.551126
>>551125Biden and Trump, pick one qualified for the job.
Pro-tip:
YOU CANT No.551127
>>550966>because smashies got to two of those trucks along with their personal vehicles while they were off speedrunning through the National Mallsource or GTFO
i want the source big boy No.551128
>>551124Yeah, and it samples people who admit it, which only encompasses an impulsive type of sociopath. I’m already familiar with what you’re talking about which is why I think its measurements are based on flawed premises, granted, I think that’s a lot psychological research.
Sociopathy doesn’t necessarily require impulse control issues. Like I said, the ones who are going to admit it are not going to test well by virtue of their own inability to control themselves.
No.551129
>>551128It is the case that psychopaths with a higher intelligence are less impulsive. However impulsivity is not related to the accuracy of self reporting on anonymous measures of psychopathy to my knowledge. Furthermore psychopaths usually will lack an affective sense of shame or concern for societal judgement beyond that which carries material consequences. I don't see any reason that a psychopath would lie and say no to the questions regarding psychopathic traits on an anonymously administered test that will have no effect on the participant's well being. There are even many high functioning psychopaths that have "come out" as having the condition, and they seem to think it makes them a superior kind of human being. From my own experience the psychopaths I know that are required to interact with me tend to actually appreciate my knowledge of who they are because they don't have to bother with "masking" and generally find conversation more natural assuming I don't outwardly express judgement.
No.551130
>>551021>The antifas are one step ahead of them and have the initiative.It's beautiful that the groups
yes, plural that allegedly aren't an organization are still more organized than a group that fantasizes about order and control and discipline.
No.551131
>>551129How do you know it’s not related?
Did they actually control for it?
That’s exactly the problem.
The majority of samples that I’ve seen come from the prison system. There is no longer a material benefit to hiding their condition. That population is also not know for their impulse control. I also find tales of self-admitted sociopaths incredibly questionable.
Normally they self-diagnose themselves and seem a quite bit more borderline than full blown sociopathic.
No.551132
>>708406
that’s kind of the point…
No.551133
>>551131>How do you know it’s not related? How do you know it's related? that deduction seems unlikely and logically inconsistant to me as I have just pointed out but I have no hard evidence either.
>The majority of samples that I’ve seen come from the prison systemThe studies I have seen that supported the above conclusions I mentioned were of anonymous measurements of people in non incarcerated populations, for example university students.
>I also find tales of self-admitted sociopaths incredibly questionable.>Normally they self-diagnose themselves and seem a quite bit more borderline than full blown sociopathic.What are you basing this statement on?
No.551134
>>551133Also borderline personality disorder is not at all related to psychopathy or sociopathy, these are seperate conditions involving different traits and symptoms
No.551135
>>551133> How do you know it's related?I don’t, but it’s reasonable to want to control external variables. Considering impulsivity is already associated with a lower IQ, how can you be certain its not influencing the results?
> What are you basing this statement on?Online internet communities, generally.
> borderline personality disorder is not at all related to psychopathy or sociopathy, these are seperate conditions involving different traits and symptomsWhich is why I said BPD, because they clearly aren’t sociopaths even in the way they describe themselves.
No.551136
>>551135>Which is why I said BPD, because they clearly aren’t sociopaths even in the way they describe themselves.Who isn't? I'm guessing you are referring to your colloquial experience of observing people on social media that describe themelves as sociopaths? This is not the same dynamic as people in relatively generic populations anonymously tested for traits of psychopathy and intellectual abilities.
No.551137
>>551122>Do you?>If you want to throw a monkey wrench in the system, get a literal retard elected to the highest office.Yeah, I know about Cipolla's 5 basic laws on stupidity. But what's most damaging is
systemic stupidity. Or, for the lack of a better word, lack of wisdom.
For you who know swedish, here's on stupidity:
https://sverigesradio.se/avsnitt/dumhet-p3-dystopiaAnd here's on McNamara's Folly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNDsd798HR4 No.551138
>>551136> Who isn't?Well, apparently whoever you’re talking to and you take their word for. I’ll admit, there are difference in that there are survey tools used and the like, but you’re still reliant on self-reporting which is always a vulnerability. At least with the prison system, you have an established pattern of behavior that led to them being diagnosed.
But I don’t know how you would ever get a reliable result from, university students of all people, taking an anonymous survey and not just scribbling answers they feel that day. Sociopaths are already considered a small population and having a few individuals purposely fudging there answers could really skew the results. I’ve seen some strange and hilarious answers on anonymous questionnaires.
No.551139
>>551130There's a phrase Mao used once about his enemies, "teachers by negative example." But for fascist groups, I think they need everything to go according to plan, but they don't handle plans going awry very well. The Charlottesville riot was similar because I think their plan was to basically kick everyone's asses but look like the good guys because their enemies would attack them first. Bing bong. Simple.
But that doesn't really work when one guy punches you or throws a bottle at you, and the next guy is a priest who is praying at you, and the next couple of guys after that are linking arms and blocking a street that you need to march to the statue. So a fascist punches a priest on camera or batters their way through the blockade. There's too much going on so they get frustrated and blow it. Some start screaming about Hitler and look like maniacs. Then they turn on each other after it's over. It happens over and over again. That's dangerous though, case in point being the guy who drove his car into the crowd. It wouldn't surprise me if he was both very hyped up on a "we will crush our enemies" orcs vs. humans mindset while also being incredibly frustrated. He lacked patience, experience or critical distance to understand what was happening around him.
The Capitol riot was also similar. I think there were probably different groups and individuals who were trying to take advantage of it. I don't know if there was ever a serious plot to "overthrow the government" and install Trump as king. Maybe some wanted to do that. But I think a lot of the personalities involved were grifters thinking that they'd have a protest and then the people would go home and keep buying their brain pills and watching their streams and keep voting for the Republicans. There probably were agent provocateurs in the mix too. But the question I have is: why did the crowd at large so easily take the bait? Whereas the left didn't go anywhere near that motherfucker when it was going on because it smelled funny.
>>551111>>551112I think part of the mainstream rightard take that PF are glowies is because the left and the liberals are calling them Nazis, so they don't want to agree with that take. Or the fact that Unicorn Riot posted the data dump. On the one hand, the mainstream right is using that information to say that PF are discreditable. On the other hand, Unicorn Riot is a left-wing site which complicates any right-wing blogger using that information to attack PF, so I've seen some rightards say that this is all just further evidence that this all a glow plot (because antifas are also glowies now, they say) in that the feds have lured right-wingers into a trap and then closed the trap, as if both PF and antifa are both fed groups that are waging a fake battle to ensnare people. It's a very "Alex Jones" way of building a narrative, and the few defenders of PF online will say "at least they're doing something and you just want us to keep voting for Republicans." And I think that's also probably true even if PF are boobs.
I think that's one of the differences between the right and the left. The right has two modes: (a) do nothing and (b) OVERTHROW THE GUBMINT. The left operates more like a dimmer switch which can phase up and down.
No.551140
>>550913NAZBOL PARTY, IT'S THE GANG FOR YOU AND ME!>>550980>Just had Sam call me Thicc<hahaha. your ass looks good in that shotKek
>I don't want the chance of my ass going vialLets make it viral lmao
>"Thicc Front" "hoho"lmao
>>551015Really makes you think doesn't it?
>>551021>Telling fascists that they're being doxedY tho?
No.551141
>>551110they only get doxxed and fired in america(and not even the whole country), the main reason is when 30% of the population isnt white ,being racist causes problems
No.551142
>>550762why would /pol/ care about glowies?
No.551143
>>551142>why would glowies care about glowies?the mind boggles anon
No.551144
>>551139I think that outside of the grifters, the right is generally just filled with egomaniacs who have a superiority complex in general. Like they drive around and act like assholes in their big vehicles because they want to be seen as tough and that they can portray themselves as assholes while being able to bully around people who they think are lessors. At least that generally seems to them to them. Some are just psychos or normies but I think there is a general backdrop of compensatory egotism.
No.551146
>>551144I noticed a similar mentality to American soldiers and mercenaries in Iraq. You can at least hand it to the Brits to try to blend in like Lawrence of Arabia when they're embedded on a "civilizing" mission, but the Americans lack that tact and prefer to look like giant badasses who drive around in huge armored SUVs blasting Drowning Pool while shooting civilians in drive-bys. It's all Americana all the time – which pissed people off and came back around on them. Iraqi insurgents begun specifically targeting contractors.
The right-wing giant pickup truck dudes remind me of them. But I think they believe this over-the-top expression of strength will make them less vulnerable because no one will want to mess with them, while in reality, it can often be the opposite. They separate themselves out from the local population and make enemies of the local population.
It's like "Cowboys and Indians." But unlike the more mainstream right, the harder right-wing groups give up the pretense that imperialism and colonialism was ever for anyone's good.
No.551147
>>551146To some extent I think the Right Wing's own excesses will be its downfall.
There was a NatReview article, about police departments seeing as much as a
50% drop off in recruits precisely because most people see cops and they think about violent psychos.
It's somewhat similar for Republicans, the vicious racism has alienated tons of sane people (and even fascists need a minority of pragmatists in their movement in order to actually function) and so they've got a serious gap in youth support.
It's like they're embracing the excesses of late stage Nazism while they're still in the "early stages" of forming, and the fact they're so undisciplined as to frequently end up starting random terrorist attacks on innocents just makes it harder for them to gain credibility.
No.551148
>>551139>There's a phrase Mao used once about his enemies, "teachers by negative example." But for fascist groups, I think they need everything to go according to plan, but they don't handle plans going awry very well. The Charlottesville riot was similar because I think their plan was to basically kick everyone's asses but look like the good guys because their enemies would attack them first. Bing bong. Simple.Nice observation. A better strategy would’ve been for them to go from A to B unmolested.
>But that doesn't really work when one guy punches you or throws a bottle at you, and the next guy is a priest who is praying at you, and the next couple of guys after that are linking arms and blocking a street that you need to march to the statue. So a fascist punches a priest on camera or batters their way through the blockade. There's too much going on so they get frustrated and blow it. Some start screaming about Hitler and look like maniacs. Then they turn on each other after it's over. It happens over and over again. That's dangerous though, case in point being the guy who drove his car into the crowd. It wouldn't surprise me if he was both very hyped up on a "we will crush our enemies" orcs vs. humans mindset while also being incredibly frustrated. He lacked patience, experience or critical distance to understand what was happening around him.True. Maybe a pitched battle would’ve saved Heyer’s life. But then there was that helicopter accident. It’s interesting that the militia groups that volunteerd to keep order had the sense to pull out. (Not that I see the point of using AKs for keeping order, but hey. They pulled out.)
>The Capitol riot was also similar. I think there were probably different groups and individuals who were trying to take advantage of it. I don't know if there was ever a serious plot to "overthrow the government" and install Trump as king. Maybe some wanted to do that. But I think a lot of the personalities involved were grifters thinking that they'd have a protest and then the people would go home and keep buying their brain pills and watching their streams and keep voting for the Republicans. There probably were agent provocateurs in the mix too. But the question I have is: why did the crowd at large so easily take the bait? Whereas the left didn't go anywhere near that motherfucker when it was going on because it smelled funny.There was a plan to invalid the election, alright. Some legal expert gave advice on every button to push and in what order. And IFF the left showed up to counter-protest. What the hell was they going to do? Pick a spot in a park and declare it Trump free? No, it smelled funny, alright.
>I think part of the mainstream rightard take that PF are glowies is because the left and the liberals are calling them Nazis, so they don't want to agree with that take. Or the fact that Unicorn Riot posted the data dump. On the one hand, the mainstream right is using that information to say that PF are discreditable. On the other hand, Unicorn Riot is a left-wing site which complicates any right-wing blogger using that information to attack PF, so I've seen some rightards say that this is all just further evidence that this all a glow plot (because antifas are also glowies now, they say) in that the feds have lured right-wingers into a trap and then closed the trap, as if both PF and antifa are both fed groups that are waging a fake battle to ensnare people. It's a very "Alex Jones" way of building a narrative, and the few defenders of PF online will say "at least they're doing something and you just want us to keep voting for Republicans." And I think that's also probably true even if PF are boobs.True. But Unicorn seems quite checkboxy. For instance:
<Unicorn Riot currently has around 10 members, based in Boston, Denver, Minneapolis, Philadelphia and South Africa.[6][4][7] The media collective is non-hierarchical and makes decisions based on consensus.[8]I’m not saying that it won’t work. Because obviously it does. But they are basically stretching it. It’s said that the maximum size of a government cabinet is 8. If it’s larger, an inner cabinet will be formed. And non-hierarchical and making consensus-based decisions? Haha, but no. They do have an hierarchy and if you go for consensus, you will either do nothing or fall victim for a charismatic leader. But hey, UR. If you’re reading this. Why don’t you expand your group to 15 members? (No, don’t do that!)
>I think that's one of the differences between the right and the left. The right has two modes: (a) do nothing and (b) OVERTHROW THE GUBMINT. The left operates more like a dimmer switch which can phase up and down.Or, you can reform it.
No.551149
>>551146>You can at least hand it to the Brits to try to blend in like Lawrence of Arabia when they're embedded on a "civilizing" missionGuess why it isn't called "Lawrence of The Ottoman Empire"? :^)
(A little nothing called
al-Thawra al-‘Arabiyya that totally didn't feature locals with agency.)
<Trump supporters haraunging that busHad almost forgot about that one!
No.551150
>>551139>>551130The reason the right (and let's be honest, most of the left) is like this in the US is because the culture is pathologically individualistic. None of the people engaging in these events are CEOs or somebody whose job depends on understanding and enforcing an organizational structure. They are either workers who are used to obeying orders or they are petty booj who have too few employees to need to worry about structure in any real sense. And outside of work, nobody fucking organizes anything. They have maybe a few circles of a few friends who meet up to do stuff here and there. They are all raised on a diet of TV and video games where everything is already laid out and structured for them in advance and all they have to do is mindlessly "engage" by indulging in consumption at the least-mentally-involved level imaginable. Almost none of the politically activated people doing these things have the barest capacity to organize their own lives, let alone a political movement. Which is why a small group of hackers and journalists can embarrass people like this. There's a reason Jordan Peterson's "clean your room" advice is so popular, and it's because the average burger is such a scatterbrained worker-consumer homunculus manchild that to them the idea that they could assert even that little amount of planning and control is genuinely revelatory.
No.551151
>>551150/\this, based take
No.551152
>>551150>The reason the right (and let's be honest, most of the left) is like this in the US is because the culture is pathologically individualistic.Worse. The culture of the US is
democratic.
https://www.newsweek.com/shades-the60s-153327
<Why these striking differences? On a recent trip to Europe I took an afternoon walk in a public park and was struck by how many young people in mod attire–pierced noses, dyed hair, combat boots–were out strolling with their grandparents after the traditional Sunday lunch. That image offers part of the answer: despite the '60s, Europe is still culturally conservative. In a strict sense, all cultures are conservative to the degree that they establish customs that grease the wheels of social life and impart those customs to new members of the society. But in a looser sense some cultures can be said to be more conservative in that they manage to decelerate changes in attitudes and behavior, moderating them in the process and weaving them into a continuous fabric with older ones by means of consensus. Modern European culture has always made room for those who rejected the consensus of the moment–bohemians, saints–because the strong centripetal force of custom has allowed the center to hold, leaving more space at the margins for those who don't fit in. The '60s posed a serious challenge to that consensus, yet it is striking today to see how successfully the new customs have been grafted onto the old.
<American culture is not conservative; it is democratic. Given their strong suspicion of inherited authority and their almost infinite faith in an individual's right to shape his own destiny, Americans have trouble accepting social customs whose provenance is unclear and whose authority they never consented to. This does not mean that Americans are always comfortable with diversity, for as we know there have been periods of stifling conformity and moralism in American history. What it does mean is that Americans see cultural changes as matters of principle that need to be publicly debated, and those debates can be polarizing. Americans have a reputation abroad for being pragmatic, which in economic and technical matters might be true. But on large political issues, and almost all cultural ones, Americans tend to be dogmatic and uncompromising because they see democratic principles at stake in them. That is why the post-'60s American debates over abortion, feminism, identity politics and school curricula seem so bizarre to Europeans, who may have views on these matters but generally don't think the fate of democracy hinges on them.Ergo: Europeans have easier to find their place in society. For americans, society is an eternal struggle where everything stands and falls with the individual.
No.551153
>>551146That pole posted pic someone if anyone sees it stick another underneath saying something along the lines of "I conquered your bike, kid"
No.551154
>>550975>Anyone find it kinda conspicuous that they started to reactivate in October 2021, the same month the CIA declared war on China?How about this one: SEX with HITLER was released 22 January 2022. Coincidence?
>>550978>Yes? That's just politics. Do you think politics to be a non-violent process?I think that there should be a word for the law that says that someone calling for something the strongest are in direct inverse proportion the least fit to do it and would be the loudest protesters when they themselves are afflicted by it.
>>550980<young men having fun in the sunWholesome!
>>551140>Y tho?She's having fun.
No.551156
>>551147>It's like they're embracing the excesses of late stage Nazism while they're still in the "early stages" of forminglol
No.551157
>>551152>democracy bad Fuck off
No.551158
>>551152>Americans have trouble accepting social customs whose provenance is unclear and whose authority they never consented to.This is one of the few
good things about American culture, dude.
No.551160
>>551158they had a civil war over whether slavery was wrong or not
No.551161
>>551160>slavery>"wrong"pretty spooky
No.551163
>>551162i would rather not
No.551165
>>551164Isn’t pic related like PF?
No.551166
>>551165no PF was a group of 5+
what most fantasize about on the fringe right is a completely disorganized mass with only a vague common goal made up of squads of 2-5
No.551167
>>551166Is the numbers really that big of a deal?
No.551168
>>551167yes for many reasons.
going from one to two or three is very achievable.
but now compare that to the benefit of going from one person willing to commit violence to three and no more than that.
how much that multiplies the potential (e.g. don't have to go all in on a certain target, can have a getaway driver).
also think about how impossible to infiltrate, track, or even KNOW about such a group would be.
the trick is getting a lot of such groups, maybe 20 around the country.
again this is not the first time these things have been talked about or tried it's just that i don't see the widespread recognition of those aspirations in the vanguard of the right
No.551169
>>551164these dumbasses are constantly calling each other feds no matter what or when it gets embarrassing for them to claim some org or person, so who cares
No.551170
>>551169>so who caresexactly my point.
no one cares that a bunch of dumb faggots get got by some astroturfed honeypot, certainly not the right.
just don't know who the thread is for exactly.
"obvious glow op has obvious conclusion."
is there literally anyone surprised by this or counts it as anything other than a meme?
i don't see any lamenting on the right so am curious how any could be rejoicing on the left
No.551171
>>551170no i mean who the fuck cares what /pol/ thinks about real life stuff
No.551172
>>551171>who the fuck caresdid you miss the op?
No.551173
>>550923hysteria and neuroticism
No.551174
>>551164so they want an antifa for vaccination.. like an antifax.
No.551175
>>550972anyone wanna do this now what more /pol/ are showing up? getting kind of bored of looking through the leaks for stuff
No.551176
>>551139>I think part of the mainstream rightard take that PF are glowies is because the left and the liberals are calling them NazisI think it's more basic, and something even observable here:
>movement that purports to be on your side but sucks or compromises values = glowie/fedIt's that simple. conspiracy 101.
A pathetic attempt at a fascist party is feds.
If you don't like antifa, they're feds.
That communist party that doesn't do what you agree with are feds.
No.551178
>>551176I'd also say that historically, feds rarely formed parties ex nihilo, unless it was to create a group of useful idiots to attack already existing parties. Patriot Front didn't do that, in fact it was actively trying to grow itself, which is something Feds don't do if their goal is to maintain order because even if they control the levers of power, it's still giving their enemies a means to organize with each other and network.
They're pathetic retards and /pol/ is coping by saying they're some federal plot to make them look bad. When the reality is half the time the fashies on that board don't organize is because they know deep down they'd look pathetic.
No.551179
>>550762Are they withholding part of the leaks, or have these retards literally only LARPed on the internet, groomed kids, and made graffiti stencils? This shit is embarrassing.
No.551180
>>550769…Sign me up… Sieg Heil…
No.551181
>>551178And yet despite all this cringe, most zoomers are still obese and the white ones are basically living in a world where they are generally (Rightfully) seen as inferior to people outside of the US despite living in the US NUMBAH WUN nation in the world. That is why white zoomers are mostly /pol/lacks and other sorts.
No.551182
>>551177You forgot
>>551085, of which hails from the zip
No.551183
>>551181I've yet to meet a /pol/ zoomer, and I'm in the cutoff between late millennial and early zoomer. Granted, it might just be the local culture out here, but most of the zoomers I've met have no small amount of disgust for the extreme right. The "MUH TRAD MASCULINITY" shit mostly appeals to weird schizotypal personalities on the internet. Shit even young men painting their nails isn't too uncommon out here.
Whenever the topic's turned to politics I've straight up told young people I'm a member of the Communist Party and they've gotten a kick out of it more than anything. A few even said they'd join "If I've finally had enough of this bullshit."
Fuck, even among young Republicans a not insignificant portion of them trend further left than most of their party. Namely 'cause they see climate change as an existential threat.
The point being, young people are alright. The rightward minority of Gen Z are mostly a result of being depressed and having unfettered access to shitholes like /pol/.
No.551184
>>551181>That is why white zoomers are mostly /pol/lacks and other sorts.Depends on one's sexuality and one's domicile. Urbanites and women are more likely to come out as liberals politically and as such frequent Twitter and Instagram.
>>551183>The rightward minority of Gen Z are mostly a result of being depressed and having unfettered access to shitholes like /pol/.You mean more radical? Most if not all American zoomers are rightoids. Because liberalism is indeed, a right-wing thought.
No.551185
>>551183>>551184You are right, I was wrong about it. The situation might even be worse. They are Teddy K worshipping Redscare/stupidpolpilled psychos.
No.551186
>>551184"urbanites" do not use social media, at least not on an obsessive level. it's mostly suburbanites and privileged people in the country
No.551187
>>551186usually just people disconnected from irl community
No.551188
>>551155>I think you'd find this interesting:I do. Thanks! :-)
>>551157May I restress it for you?
The
culture of the US is
democratic.
>>551158>This is one of the few good things about American culture, dude.Do they really think it's *fun* to relive the 60's over and over? :-/
Here's one consequence of that:
https://www.everydayhealth.com/womens-health/things-to-know-about-this-summers-birth-control-ruling/
<The Supreme Court ruled that employers can refuse to offer birth control coverage as mandated by the Affordable Care Act if they have religious or moral objectionsI don't recall her name, but it was an american woman who needed contraceptive pills in order to make her menstrual cycle not go haywire. The reason her employer nixed that? Because it was his personal responsibility to…something.
No.551189
>>551184Even among "Liberal" zoomers is more a result of their not having easy access to proletarian education than any conscious adherence to liberalism.
No.551193
>>550935Don't forget the hordes of white women that have sex with their dogs.
No.551194
>>550918>kneelingBLM, eh?
No.551195
>>551192Yes. Only empirical research in Lysenko's labs. Gotta increase that statistical basis, you know.
No.551196
>>551179>Are they withholding part of the leaks, or have these retards literally only LARPed on the internet, groomed kids, and made graffiti stencils? This shit is embarrassing.Idunno. And tbh, I haven't even looked trough the leaks. Not even cursory. *Maybe* this weekend.
No.551197
I bet the police in Olympia would be interested in seeing them actually defacing that mural, as well as doing a dry run without their masks.
This is all hilarious.
No.551201
>>551179Marching around in circles too
>>551198>>551200This is kind of thing that would make me think this is a controlled organization, if they were. Like, it's bizarre.
This photo montage came via Gateway Pundit, a right-wing boomer blog that is calling these guys feds. The montage is from a different group called XRVision which is apparently a scammy "face recognition" company (that doesn't apparently possess actual such technology) and was known for shopping around "analysis" of antifa and BLM protesters in 2020 to conservative media outlets – but they seem to have turned their trade on Patriot Front, which is a fun case of friendly fire.
Anyways, the montage shows the leader's "bodyguard" and everything I've seen says this is accurate: antifas had previously doxxed the dude. But he's an Air Force veteran who is tied up in some Krav Maga gym run by a bunch of other ex-military guys and at least one current Pentagon contractor. The specific PF guy apparently works at a grocery store though so I dunno. Is he the "handler?" Who knows.
No.551203
>>551201So Rosseau's bodygard is a Krav Maga aka Jew-Fu instructor?
And I gotta admit that Rosseau looks kinda slick with that belt buckle, scarf and beard, no homo & ngl.
No.551205
>>551204Well, everyone starts out as a lanklet or a lard. That’s not what makes these people laughable. Even with the muscleheads, they fuck themselves over through their impulsivity and fundamental cowardice. They’re bullies who wanna terrorize people and depend on that ability to terrorize in order to survive
No.551206
>>550935Fake news.
Everyone knows white women fuck the barking jew, not the purring one.
No.551207
>>551205Sure, but still…
1?
No.551208
>>551203I'm really not the kind of guy who thinks every wannabe fascist leader is a closet gay, but COME ON
>>551205I think that's why they depend on optics and illusion to project intimidation and why they're so terrified of being exposed, because you see they're nothing to be afraid of.
Objectively, the cops are a million times a bigger threat than them. In a mostly black neighborhood in America, these guys would possibly get killed and that's not an exaggeration.
But if 30 of these guys showed up at a lefty thing of inexperienced zoomers and they're wearing their uniforms and shouting and throwing out flares and the people they're targeting don't know anything about them, then that could be intimidating.
No.551209
A mod has informed me that /pol/tourists are repeatedly reporting leaks posted in this thread in the hopes of getting them deleted.
"Particularly the mp3s", which I assume means this:
>>551098>>551099 No.551211
>>551210He would certainly be fun to top
No.551213
>>551017Everyone except this place and Twitter.
No.551214
>>551213How dare you equate us to twitter
No.551215
>>551213imagine believing this
>>551214/ITG/ and idfags deserve that comparison No.551216
>>551215I live in Germany which has pretty much the strongest and most capable antifa scene in the world and people think theyre a bunch of junkie losers.
No.551217
>>551216That’s libs for you
No.551218
>>551216cool story, non-sequitur
No.551221
>>551218Did you expect a peer reviewed study?
No.551224
>>551223in the leaks, one of the dudes said they were a /pol/ jannie so it wouldn't shock me if they were desperate to get it off here.
No.551226
>>551209>>551222>>551223can confirm that, they reported some posts in hopes we'd just blindly delete them or something.
No.551227
>>551226I don't even think most people here even really care about them, rather than just thinking it's funny. But I guess that's enough to trigger butthurt
No.551228
>>550935Why are they like this? Why? And don’t say no theory because there’s definitely something more going on in their brains than just ignorance.
No.551229
>>551227yeah pretty much, I just mentioned it in the matrix chat cause I thought it was funny.
No.551230
>>551226LMAOWhy do they want to damage control this so bad on a small site like leftypol?
The information is probably already out there on twitter and possibly reddit.
No.551233
>>5512281) Bad theory. Not just no theory but second+ hand bad theory. They unironically believe in white genocide or a Great Replacement. To them, the Americanization, decadence and liberalism is all evidence white people are becoming week, and it's the fault of powerful institutions like the media, and therefore, in their worldview, Jews.
In a similar way to how we point at many major issues in society that result from society operating under capitalism, they substitute that with the group that they believe is naturally and/or culturally greedy and colluding for power. It's kind of a no-theory for people who consider nature-over-nurture or correlation as causation in socioeconomic statistics. You see that trend in many of their other major points, le blacks commit 105% of grimes
The Jew becomes the scapegoat of the shortcomings of their in-group, because they've seen enough correlation of their role in the media and social activist who happen to be Jewish. Consider the Hibernian Conspiracy: that's what unreasoned pattern noticing does to a motherfucker. White people are 'weak liberals' and 'soyboys'? Jews did this. White people don't want to dominate other races? Jews did this. Trans people in schools? Jews did this to deteriorate the whites. That's their mindset: Jews want to conquer whites and this is their method.
2) 'Jew' is a colloquial term to them, with one of those meanings being something 'evil' or that threatens da white man. It comes from this 'root of all evil' mindset described above.
3) Virgin-identity politics (incel culture). Scapegoating for why women must be unreasonable in not liking them. It must be that they're fucking pets instead of us! It must be that they're manipulative succubi! It must be that the media glorified alpha males!
I wonder if there's a term for this synthesis of brownshart incelism.
No.551234
>>551233>I wonder if there's a term for this synthesis of brownshart incelism.Its nothing new, in the memoirs of some SS member they talked about how they saw some women marching in weimar germany and how he had some kind of episode where their mouths kept expanding as they protested and eventually just ate him whole. fascists have always had very weird sexual complexes.
No.551236
>>551233>pic>some radfem idea from the 70s that has stewed in its own juices for decadesHo-hum. Fresh!
>>551234>Its nothing new, in the memoirs of some SS member they talked about how they saw some women marching in weimar germany and how he had some kind of episode where their mouths kept expanding as they protested and eventually just ate him whole. fascists have always had very weird sexual complexes.Based and mouthpilled!
No.551237
>>551208>I'm really not the kind of guy who thinks every wannabe fascist leader is a closet gay, but COME ONI just said he looked sharp, man! Also smart that he stands out.
No.551240
>>551237*takes a shot of whiskey* Well, stranger, there's nothing wrong with admiring a man who likes to engage in a little dressup from time to time… although admittedly this one also keeps detailed statistics about his all-male youth organization's fitness levels so they have good physiques when they "perform." But he's from Grapevine, TX. There are zero cowboys in Grapevine, and I can assure you that – let alone any (other than him) wearing a bright red scarf, possibly in the whole entire state.
Well, other than at the Round-Up Saloon but that draws a different kind of cowboy if you catch my drift.
No.551243
>>551239This has potential. Let us summon the divine lolcats of old… I, Jewish daughter of si/b/eria beseech thee, purring Jew!
Felines of all lands, unite!
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/2013/08/11/world-cat-day-a-jewish-perspective/In [the] Hebrew Bible, big wild cats express divine power.It's true!
Now, /pol/ reminds us of our old friend, the big wild felines.
I'll tell you this: you've raised us your Egyptian Kek? I raise you a purring Jew! Ten plagues upon your houses, Pharaoh!
No.551244
>>551239The absolute state of American white """""""""""""people""""""""""""""
No.551248
There is definitely potential in using cats to troll /pol/tards.
On the other hand, if it does succeed and make them genuinely seethe at cats, there could be unintended consequences.
No.551249
>>551248Cats are dicks, I don’t care. Dog supremacy
No.551253
>>551250>Being a woman makes you a jew of gender >A cat is a “Purring Jew”Ergo a Jew is a talking cat and a jewish woman is a talking cat jew. QED
No.551254
>>551251Somebody needs the dogpill
No.551257
>>551234Can't really wrap by head round vore. I guess its like a sort of inversion of being born. Instead of coming out the vagene you go in the mouth.
Is it femdom? Kind of, but also a bit cannibalistic. The way that is described its very paranoid too. Like he's terribly afraid of women.
No.551259
>>551201Mossad *handshake* the far right
No.551260
>>551201kek i even posted this before i saw the fucking israel flag. C'moooooon. haavara agreement never forget
No.551262
>>551255This is gold anon you made my day
No.551265
>>551231How would Patriot Front fix housing prices?
No.551266
>>551264>Cats have no social structure, can see other dimensions and they identify people by their auras. Only a jew would feel threatened by them.Based?
No.551268
>>551265If you searching for a home and drove through a neighborhood and saw those guys doing march drilling, the housing prices would automatically lower themselves out of sheer embarrassment.
No.551270
>>551269post that link about how jews actually love cats, see if they all backtrack
No.551276
>>551274>>551275i don't take medical knowledge from youtube videos
No.551278
>>551269>>551274>>551275Stop dumping your /pol/ shit here and take a break from the internet. Seriously, health comes first.
The only post that deserve a toxo post was >>551234 , /pol/ cries that toxo makes you gay but the truth is of course it gives those rats a vore fetish No.551282
>Caturday is on Shabbat
>World Cat Day begins this year the exact day after Tisha B'av (Jewish fast day)
uh… guys?
No.551283
>>551269>>551271>All the post accusing the OP of being JewishEverything is Jewish in these people's mind, huh?
No.551284
>>551283Except the cats
The plan is working
No.551286
>>551211>He would certainly be fun to topLike on the top of
>muh dikkand he shoots jizz and pisses at the same time in
>muh face No.551287
>>551285Nice digits!
And "anti-semitic pro-zionism" is no contradiction in terms. Gotta have this conveyor belt to Israel. Just ask Yoram Hazony who totally isn't helpful to jews outside of Israel.
No.551288
>>551287>Nice digits!Well shit, that's the third quad i get this week, what the hell.
>And "anti-semitic pro-zionism" is no contradiction in terms.Oh, i'm aware. I just don't understand why people on places like /pol/ would do this.
No.551289
>>551288>Well shit, that's the third quad i get this week, what the hell.Impressive! But check mine.
>Oh, i'm aware. I just don't understand why people on places like /pol/ would do this.Because it's simpler so. Last time they tried a mass murder of jews a wild Stalin showed up.
Better to just plod along with eating and keeping the cake. With the
>implicitconnection between jews and Israel you can say that jews in your country has a responsibility for what Israel does. And Israel is that horrible, horrible "colonial settler" state that…something.
No.551290
>>551288>>And "anti-semitic pro-zionism" is no contradiction in terms.>Oh, i'm aware. I just don't understand why people on places like /pol/ would do this.Because they glow in the dark.
No.551291
>>550814of fucking course he loves batman. that shit's a right-wing canon i swear to christ
No.551292
>>551285nice quads anon
jews really live rent free in these people's heads
>>551289checked
>>551288>I just don't understand why people on places like /pol/ would do thisit's because they're retarded
No.551293
>>550771cursed tno reference
No.551294
>>551255>cats make women childless because they dont want to have kids since they are already surrogate parents of the purring jew (cat lady phenomenon)why do these fags think people get pets to begin with? obviously they're some kind of surrogate for a child which is what makes it resonate with us. also stupid when applied to cats anyway considering dogs are much more child-like
No.551296
>>551295there are example PNGs in the folders
No.551297
>>551295>3D printing stencils>not laser cuttingthey're not sending their best
No.551298
bump. anything new?
No.551301
>>551297it's the .stl's though, you can easily set it up for laser cutting.
No.551302
>/leftypol/ doesn't care
why should we?
these faggots don't understand basic OPSEC of course their fbi.gov gets leaked
No.551303
>>551302it's pretty funny though
enjoy a good lolcow while it lasts
No.551304
>>551302Actually all this stuff is pretty old. Their rocketchat got hacked last October apparently. The information obtained was one big nothing burger, now Antifa can only hope that there was enough of a big splash to scare away potential recruits.
What do you guys think?
No.551305
>>551304>What do you guys think?I think more damaging is just the active penetration of the organization with moles which disrupts their organizing. Patriot Front figured out a trick which is to have surprise flash mobs as a way of creating an appearance of strength with 100 guys suddenly materializing and marching down the street with no warning. For potential recruits, that's attractive because there's safety in numbers and the opposition doesn't have time to mobilize in response, and if the opposition does know about their plans and puts out the call, Patriot Front can just switch up the plan. That way, Patriot Front is always going to have the upper hand.
Obviously, the countermove to this is to go after their logistics which is what antifa did in D.C. – they knew where Patriot Front staged their vehicles and smashed them up costing the group thousands of dollars in damages, which raises the cost curve to a level that risks becoming unsustainable. So what Patriot Front has to do now, I think, is to pull more of their people away from the marches just to protect their vehicles, which reduces the safety-in-numbers image they want to put out to attract recruits.
No.551306
>>551305Right, mostly correct, though the recent Rouseau interview refuted the notion of large cost incursions.
In their last action, funnily enough they all took the subway to attend and faced much less problems by simply walking slowly in numbers. The Antifas did try to harrass them but were unable to and looked weak facing them. Have you seen it?
No.551307
>>550807Literally the hood scene from Django unchained.
No.551308
>>550807Even the USSR had a dress code
No.551309
>>551307Every single organisation in the world has a dress code
No.551310
Intredasting, a shame this got completely overshadowed by the Ukrainian shitshow.
No.551311
>>551310This news is a month old
No.551312
>>551306>Right, mostly correct, though the recent Rouseau interview refuted the notion of large cost incursions.I haven't listened to it, and well, he would say that… y'know? He'll always say that everything is going according to plan and that they're unstoppable and yada yada. Their brand-new van that one dude bought for them was also totaled.
>In their last action, funnily enough they all took the subway to attend and faced much less problems by simply walking slowly in numbers. The Antifas did try to harrass them but were unable to and looked weak facing them. Have you seen it?Yeah, but that was also the same day the big data dump happened and that wasn't a coincidence. They dropped it to coincide with the march and the leak got more attention. Also the notion of appearing "weak" doesn't really fly when it's known now that Patriot Front literally calls the police on themselves before marches so they can have a cop escort.
No.551313
>>550867I can't use sound rn. Whate the context of this nazi erotic rubbing video?
No.551314
>>551308That doesn't mean you have to be extremely anal about. Antifa have a dress code too but they are haphazard about it.
No.551316
hi,national socialist from /pol/ here! we dont care about pf and are convinced they work for the federal government
No.551317
Some one give me the TLDR on all this!
No.551318
>>551316yes we’re already aware of this cope
No.551320
>>551319They should have just told them their parents called and are disappointed in them.
No.551321
>>551319antifa is communists and anarchists, it's anti-sectarian
this is how i can tell you're terminally online
No.551323
>>551321Anon said "mostly anarchists" which shows they do know there is more than that. Also in US it's also liberals not just leftists. Unless you are talking about a very specific Antifa group you forgot to name.
No.551324
>>551320I did run across a group of middle-aged women at a protest once called the "Auntie-Fa" who'd hold signs saying things like "does your mother know where you are?"
>>551322One member of that group died of a drug overdose recently and another went to prison for sexually propositioning a 10-year-old and possessing child pornography. If you're a far-right guy from /pol/, do you want people like this representing your movement? You gotta grow up and take responsibility for your movement.
No.551325
>>551323liberals are not in antifa
there is literally 0 reason to believe they would have the balls or even any reason to combat fascism
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>>551324>Aunti-FaReminds me of the various Antifa groups that dressed as clowns and trolled fash so relentlessly they just left early or forget what they were doing.
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antifa infiltrator got found out around the time of the DC march and they used their last chance to troll the org
https://twitter.com/wanaziwatch/status/1468046338923569155 No.551329
tf was this shit
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