The older I get, the more I realize how based Khrushchev was.
>Oversaw the peak of Soviet prosperity
>Oversaw the growth of the socialist camp to its greatest extent
>Put down counter-revolutionaries
>Brought humanity into space
>Made Kennedy shit himself
What's not to love? Has there ever been a Soviet premier as successful?
>>574483>>Oversaw the peak of Soviet prosperityBrezhnev period was the peak
>>Oversaw the growth of the socialist camp to its greatest extentStalin and Beria doing a gamer moment after ww2.
>>Put down counter-revolutionaries Every soviet leader with the exception of Gorbachev did this, so it's up to standard.
>>Brought humanity into space>>Made Kennedy shit himselfactual points to Krussy over here lmao.
>>574486>Yeah, the space program that begun two years after Stalin's death was totally his merit kekthe program that used ICBM rockets developed under Stalin ?, guess corn man just waved at corn a rocked just appeared.
you can say he had part in it, but giving all to Khruschev is delusional.
>>574493>I'm not speaking in favour of Khrushchev but Stalin completely destroyed international proletarian solidarity through the popular front policy aloneHow exactly did that destroy international solidarity?
>How eager do you think chicago steel workers were to join in with the CPUSA when moscow was telling the CPUSA to dedicate their resources to helping the democrats,CPUSA membership peaked during the popular front period though.
>>574496>How exactly did that destroy international solidarity?It completely split communist parties between those who followed the comintern line and those who recognised how detrimental it is to labour organising. Read hammer and hoe to see how detached the comintern was to the working class, especially sharecroppers in the south who saw right through the cominterns bullshit. International solidarity was essentially destroyed for the sake of soviet realpolitik
>CPUSA membership peaked during the popular front period though.And yet at the same time rank and file organising steadily declined when that policy was adopted.
>>574491Stalin didn't help Greek communists, fucked up twice in Poland (first in 1920 and second when the Warsaw uprising happened) creating a reactionary nation, gave up East Austria, gave up Soviet Japan, support the KMT over the CPC, disbanded the International and was high on Socialism in One Country. Had he had the balls, he would've went the Deng route and accepted that he must succumb to capitalism but no, he decided to rename things and we got socialist commodity production. For all the merits one can attribute to Stalin, both theoretical and practical, he had major drawbacks. In the final analysis, Stalin was 30% bad and 70% good.
>>574495Literally none of the things you mentioned are real. The "genocidal plan to starve Russians out of petty racism" alone tells you where this dude is coming from
>At least he's not a heckin tankie am I right?Tankie is a title of honor. None of you retards are worthy of it.
>>574514>throwing out all of Lysenko's contributions in favor of reverting to bourgeois pseudoscience pic related
>>574517>successorThe stalinoid once again shows his monarchist tendencies.
>>574520Krushchev was also a pedophile tho, he just killed and dissolved the kids into soup and threw in the sewer.
>S-SourceI am the source, and i am just as viridical as Krussy doing his spergout with no proof about Beria
>>574519>>574520All of your bullshit wont change the fact that Beria and Stalin are in heaven and Khrushchev is burning in hell
>>574518A state needs a helmsman, dipshit. This is basic politics. Or do you think crude populism and elections should have decided the leader of the USSR?
>>574540Those would be Catholics, not Orthodox Christianity
>>574538>>574539If pretending that views common to communists outside the Imperial Core is "bait" helps you sleep at night than go ahead
>>574542Dont compare me with that idiot, Haz is a grifter playing a character and openly supports American imperialism but cloaked in communist sloganeering
>>574536Being regarded as a saint in bourgeois Russia is an insult, not an honor
>It's the financial bourgeoisie and PMC class that pushes atheist idealism as a way of normalizing bourgeois cultural hedonism, when you eliminate the existence of moral absolutes it means all the rape and pedophilia they do is okay because it's just "their culture"Weird Dostoyevsky quote
>>574549Sure there are, but it's not something Communists endorse. Communists know that "to call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo. "
Being regarded as saintly by a bourgeois institution, on the other hand, should be the absolute most horrifying thing to happen to a communist, and I'm sure Stalin himself would agree.
>>574554No they're not, the lumpen is a minority usually criminals and the habitually unemployed
>>574556yes it is
>>574565I unironically think this. The main current contradiction is unequal exchange and imperialism. If the Third World gets industrialized, the West cannot exploit them anymore and capitalism fails. This is exactly the Confucianist-Leninist tactic the CPC follows.
>>574566Stalinoids and censorship, love to see it!
>>574560You should read the 18th Brumaire. Lumpen proletariat refers to propertyless wage labourers who are incapable of reaching class consciousness because they fundamentally don't get wages like the normal working class does. This primarily refers to the habitually unemployed and criminals which is why it's funny to see it applied to the girls in this post. They're useful to the state and the bourgeoisie since they can be used as hired thugs and fulfil roles like scabs and strikebreakers or members of paramilitaries, so it's really funny to see people call religious workers lumpen proletariat when the term is far more applicable to people like kkk members who are deputised so they can lynch organising black sharecroppers or foot soldiers of mafia families that union bust or unemployed soldiers who join paramilitary wings of groups like the blackshirts, brownshirts and the french gardes mobiles during the revolutions of 1848.
>>574563You can't "educate" anyone to have consciousness, class consciousness is not something you introduce from the outside into the class, but something it may or may not acquire in its own experience. You don't reason someone into becoming radical in pseudo-religious messianic ways, claiming to have some secret knowledge.
>Hence, nothing prevents us from making criticism of politics, participation in politics, and therefore real struggles, the starting point of our criticism, and from identifying our criticism with them. In that case we do not confront the world in a doctrinaire way with a new principle: Here is the truth, kneel down before it! We develop new principles for the world out of the world’s own principles. We do not say to the world: Cease your struggles, they are foolish; we will give you the true slogan of struggle. We merely show the world what it is really fighting for, and consciousness is something that it has to acquire, even if it does not want to.Karl Marx, Letter to Ruge, 1843
>Both for the production on a mass scale of this communist consciousness, and for the success of the cause itself, the alteration of men on a mass scale is, necessary, an alteration which can only take place in a practical movement, a revolution; this revolution is necessary, therefore, not only because the ruling class cannot be overthrown in any other way, but also because the class overthrowing it can only in a revolution succeed in ridding itself of all the muck of ages and become fitted to found society anew.Karl Marx/Friedrich Engels, The German Ideology, 1845
Class consciousness is something the proletariat has to acquire during it's struggle against capital by itself, it isn't something to be spread by an outside group of "educated ones".
>>574565>The bourgeois relations of capitalism are being broken down worldwide by the Chinese this momentTrue, in the sense they are bringing about their own gravediggers
>China is a true proletariat state.Retarded.
>>574568In the modern day, I don't see many hobos being paid by capitalists to break strikes or any of that in modern actually developed countries.
How exactly are the criminals and hobos pawns of the capitalists against the working class, in the modern day?
>>574572>I don't see many hobos being paid by capitalists to break strikes or any of that in modern actually developed countries.Probably because the modern police apparatus of first world nations has developed to the point where this is not that needed.
>How exactly are the criminals and hobos pawns of the capitalists against the working class, in the modern day?It's common in developing nations, see iran and how the state armed islamic fundamentalist gangs to go around to beat and kill workers.
>>574582>Engels was calling out you left-anticommunists hundreds of years agoYou should read the rest of the text you quoted
> Will it be possible for this revolution to take place in one country alone?
>No. By creating the world market, big industry has already brought all the peoples of the Earth, and especially the civilized peoples, into such close relation with one another that none is independent of what happens to the others.>Further, it has co-ordinated the social development of the civilized countries to such an extent that, in all of them, bourgeoisie and proletariat have become the decisive classes, and the struggle between them the great struggle of the day. It follows that the communist revolution will not merely be a national phenomenon but must take place simultaneously in all civilized countries – that is to say, at least in England, America, France, and Germany.
>It will develop in each of these countries more or less rapidly, according as one country or the other has a more developed industry, greater wealth, a more significant mass of productive forces. Hence, it will go slowest and will meet most obstacles in Germany, most rapidly and with the fewest difficulties in England. It will have a powerful impact on the other countries of the world, and will radically alter the course of development which they have followed up to now, while greatly stepping up its pace. It is a universal revolution and will, accordingly, have a universal range.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm >>574585Overworking sweat shop slaves into building iphones because you depend on western commerce is socialism?
Why do people hate amazon if its the same basic structure? At least in the west they give you enough to live.
>>574582>owns the means of production via the Party and the National Bourgeoisie on behalf of the working class, in line with Mao's writingsI have no clue how you could have typed this out without realizing how retarded it is or how much of a "communist" Mao was
>Engels quoteNobody says to abolish anything at one stroke, he demolishes dengoids in Anti-Duhring if he and marks haven't already in the Gothakritik. China does not plan on doing away with anything at any stroke, what you see now is what you'll see in 2050.
>>574616>The fact that Finbol is a piece of shit doesn't help make it more convincing, eitherI am convinced though
>All Finbol says is that Stalin's death was sussyvery sussy infact
>>574632why would the chinese proletariat destroy the chinese dotp? dumb ultra
>>574633it's really weird you're this obsessed with a fringe yt personality
>>574640Chinese history, you can also read maos theory and see that a big part of it was him bullshitting that the peasantry is a revolutionary class. Also they just freely admitted it.
>2. Protect the industrial, commercial, agricultural and livestock enterprises of the national bourgeoisie. All privately owned factories, shops, banks, warehouses, vessels, wharves, farms, livestock farms and other enterprises will without exception be protected against any encroachment. It is hoped that workers and employees in all occupations will maintain production as usual and that all shops will remain open as usual.https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-4/mswv4_62.htm >>574655>YoutubeNo
>CPGB-MLHoly fuck bro this is meant to convince me and not make me haul your britbong ass into the nearest dumpster?
>>574663conflating mediums with the message
this is exactly what you do when you hail khrushcow (the medium) when he said stail bad (the message)
>>574678Go ask your average prole outside the Imperial Core if he's religious or not, you might get a very surprising answer!
>>574677Atheism is idealist because by definition the lack of belief in a higher power necessitates either an infinite universe, which is impossible, or a universe that magicked itself into existence because it felt like it. Neither of these are scientific in the slightest. By contrast, recognition of a creator of the material world is an expression of materialism in its highest form and avoids the basic logical problems of atheism
>>574483He pushed for corn.
Fuck corn. We have too much of it and it’s the reason why burgers are so fucking fat.
>>574690 (me)
I honestly prey that Vietnam prays our cornfields with agent orange. It will make my people lose weight.
>>574682Most "religious" people dont really believe anyway - its just cultural baggage. How many "muslims" or african "christians" are waiting til marriage for sex, or not blaspheming.
"God" is just something you remember when you are in trouble and you pray to him, but to the illiterate masses, he has no theology, he is just the man in heaven who saves you from death.
>>574685Because the universe has a beginning. God properly defined cannot have a beginning because God is the greatest conceivable being. Some atheist philosophers circumvent this by essentially stating that the universe created itself via time-related shenangians.
Anyhow the question of whether we have a creator or not is irrelevant. Even if we do have one its clear that this God resembles a cosmic supercomputer detached from human lives more than the benign Sky-father
>>574707He already had power by 1956 lole
And if anyone was trying to coup, it would be Molotov and friends trying to kick him out without going through the proper democratic bodies. It was Comrade K who stopped their attempted coup, and the party supported him against the Anti-Party Group.
a very corntastic day to all
>>574695amazing
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