No.577772
first for Z
No.577780
ZNEED LIZBERALS
No.577782
Гераням Слава!
No.577784
OBAMA ON MYROTVORETS WHEN
No.577786
>The unquestionably revolutionary character of the vast majority of national movements is as relative and peculiar as is the possible reactionary character of certain particular national movements. The revolutionary character of a national movement under the conditions of imperialist oppression does not necessarily presuppose the existence of proletarian elements in the movement, the existence of a revolutionary or a republican programme of the movement, the existence of a democratic basis of the movement. The struggle that the Emir of Afghanistan is waging for the independence of Afghanistan is objectively a revolutionary struggle, despite the monarchist views of the Emir and his associates, for it weakens, disintegrates and undermines imperialism; whereas the struggle waged by such “desperate” democrats and “Socialists,” “revolutionaries” and republicans as, for example, Kerensky and Tsereteli, Renaudel and Scheidemann, Chernov and Dan, Henderson and Clynes, during the imperialist war was a reactionary struggle, for its result was the embellishment, the strengthening, the victory, of imperialism. For the same reasons, the struggle that the Egyptian merchants and bourgeois intellectuals are waging for the independence of Egypt is objectively a revolutionary struggle, despite the bourgeois origin and bourgeois title of the leaders of the Egyptian national movement, despite the fact that they are opposed to socialism; whereas the struggle that the British “Labour” Government is waging to preserve Egypt’s dependent position is for the same reasons a reactionary struggle, despite the proletarian origin and the proletarian title of the members of that government, despite the fact that they are “for” socialism. There is no need to mention the national movement in other, larger, colonial and dependent countries, such as India and China, every step of which along the road to liberation, even if it runs counter to the demands of formal democracy, is a steam-hammer blow at imperialism, i.e., is undoubtedly a revolutionary step.
No.577788
What’s up with Prigozhin’s tantrums lately?
No.577790
Hmm very normal.
Finns Party minister apologises over far-right comments and connections<The new Minister of Economic Affairs Vilhelm Junnila (Finns) gave a speech for a neo-Nazi umbrella organisation in 2019 and joked about the number '88,' a symbol for extremist movements.https://yle.fi/a/74-20038203>[…]Junnila's comments regarding his previous election number, 88, have also come to light.
>The number 88 is a reference used by the far right as a code for the Nazi salute, as 'h' is the eighth letter of the alphabet. Junnila happened to be assigned that number during the 2019 elections when he entered the parliament. This spring, Junnila congratulated another candidate who received the same number at a Finns campaign event.
>"First of all, congratulations on an excellent election number. I know it is a winning card. This 88 refers, of course, to the two 'H's, but let's not dwell on that," Junnila said, according to Yle's election report. No.577795
>>577790>The number 88 is a reference used by the far right as a code for the Nazi salute, as 'h' is the eighth letter of the alphabet.this doesn't explain the meaning of 88 whatsoever lmao, just say 'it stands for heil hitler' you retards
No.577799
>>577795Yeah it's funny that the nazoid "centrist" was more explicit about what "88" means to him than the medium currently reporting on his nazism.
No.577803
>>577790I don't really know what's the point of voting in some Nazis when the regular social-democrat EU politicians already have Hitlerite-level view on Non-Europeans (except Israel tho, they're kosher) what even is point? You know full well that even if these fascists ended up governing the country they will do the same old EU shit over and over again. Anti-welfare, pro-Israel, pro neocolonialism. Just look at the Brothers of Italy.
No.577806
>>577790pretty sure the line of bald dudes wearing camo cargo pants supporting him spell out his political affiliation pretty clearly
No.577814
>>577769>pic<writing Russia in lowercasepeak larp
No.577817
>>577814Sorry Vattnick, Russian Capital Letters have been sanctioned!
No.577824
>>577821He's not going to do shit
No.577833
>>577821How to tell that a counteroffensyiv is going well: you have to rely on nuclear extortion to buy time and ask for more gibs
No.577839
>>577790Lmao what a meme-brained retard
No.577842
>>577827he's so cute bros
No.577846
>>577809looks like a pink "santa" hat (or Phrygian cap, sleeping cap, similar style)
No.577848
>>577842He is darkness, he is death.
No.577852
>>577821cant this puppet bitch find more believable narratives ? thats honestly pretty pathetic
No.577854
PMC Wagner saying they're getting attacked by RF MOD
https://t.me/wagnernew/8224 No.577861
I've not payed attention to this for a couple of weeks now, so uh…
Counteroffensyiv status?
No.577867
>>577857Kek is that white army, black baron?
No.577879
>>577861>Counteroffensyiv status?zaporizhzhia NPP must fall
No.577881
>>577876Was going with Pierogi and Surovikin but the shit Pierogi has been saying lately is pretty cringe. Might just watch how it plays out
No.577885
>>577876you pick the winning faction after the fact
No.577890
>>577879RUSSIA WILL BEGIN THE SHELLING OF THEIR OWN TROOPS IN ZNPP SOON!
No.577891
>its real
WTF WHERE IS LENIN WHEN YOU NEED HIM
No.577898
Is this a psyop or is it really happening?
No.577899
>>577876Definitely no panic.
No.577902
Ministry of Defense statement:
<All the messages and videos speaded in social networks on behalf of E. Prigozhin about the alleged ‘strike of the Russian Ministry of Defense against the ‘rear camps of the Wagner PMC’ are untrue and are an informational provocation.
<The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue to carry out combat tasks on the line of contact with the AFU in the area of the special military operation.https://t.me/mod_russia_en/8044 No.577908
>>577902Holy shit, it's all falling apart isn't it?
No.577915
Our so-called leaders prostituted us to the west…Destroyed our culture…Our economies…Our honor. Our blood has been spilled on our soil.
No.577924
>>577918which side is Strelkov on? I remember he seemed pissy about Pierogi stealing his top doomer spot
No.577931
>>577924Damn i could go for some piergi ruskie
No.577934
>>577921>Zakhaevposting>MakarovpostingI don't like this CoD timeline.
No.577937
>>577924Neither, he's grumbling about both of them
No.577944
https://t.me/concordgroup_official/1285Prigozhin talking here. My Russian isn't perfect but here's what I heard:
"The council of PMC commanders made a decision that the evil that the military leadership of the country bears must be stopped. Those who destroyed our guys today will be punished. I ask no one to resist. All who resist will be destroyed, including any roadblocks on our way and any aircraft above. I ask everyone to stay calm and stay at home."
Any native speakers ITT?
No.577947
>>577944accurate translation
No.577948
CALL OF DUTY ZIGGA VILLAIN MOMENT LMAO WTF THE MEMES ARE COMING TRUE
No.577951
>>577867Yes this is version from Любэ – Красная армия всех сильней
No.577952
hmm
i dont really need some weird coup or infighting bullshit from the russian military right now
i just want russia to roll up to kiev and get this shit finished already
No.577955
>>577876If you are in St Pidorsburg go join Wagner immediately
No.577958
What is Priggo thinking? It seems unlikely that a legit coup would be successful.
No.577960
>>577934Makarov would have finished off Ukraine in a week and then nuked America as an afterthought.
Russians are unironically way smarter and way more competent in American propaganda than they are in real life.
No.577963
>>577958Disinfo to be picked up by Western media and get them all excited. As a prank.
No.577971
>>577944>>577947could this be some deepfake shit? hard to believe wagner thinks they can take on the russian state
No.577974
>>577963Maybe. Maybe they want to entice Ukrainians into action somewhere. Maybe it is cover for something they have planned. Maybe it is a coup. Maybe the moon is made out of cheese. I don’t know anymore.
No.577978
Fake and gay PsyOp.
No.577981
>>577960Reminder Comrade Makarov invaded America, France, Germany, and the Czech Republic in ONE DAY, and Cucktin can't even take Ukraine
No.577983
You don’t usually announce a coup before it plays out do you?
No.577986
>>577981kek, I wanna go back to being a kid playing MW, those were the days
No.577992
>>577974>Maybe they want to entice Ukrainians into action somewhereI'm not a military guy, but if I were a hohol commander I think the best option would be to continue as normal. Don't advance more than you normally would in case it's a trap, and don't be fooled into inaction by thinking your enemies will just do infighting like it's Doom 2. I assume western forces are trying as hard as anyone else to evaluate if this shit is real or not.
No.578004
The will of Cuckler posters made manifest, or 5D chess
Yeah, leaning toward the former explanation
No.578008
Some rumors that there are troop movements near Frunzenskaya embankment, per Rybar.
No.578011
Also per Rybar (machine translation):
<Yevgeny Prigozhin added to the register of foreign agents - Ministry of Justicehttps://t.me/rybar/48864 No.578012
There's no way he can take Moscow right guys haha
No.578015
Anyone in St Petersburg wanna give us updates on the Wagner hq, has it been raided? If not, no way this is real
No.578016
The only thing I fear if that's a mussolini's march on rome. There's zero population support for this, the only people who care are media retards
No.578023
>>578016Yeah even if this is real and the Russian military really did blow up his base and are going to finish them off, Prigozhin has basically no real support in Russia for a change of government.
No.578031
A fresh audio clip of (allegedly?) Prigozhin speaking going around now. In it he says:
>"This is not a military coup. Our actions do not interfere with the troops in any way"
No.578042
>>578031Cucktin vs Cuckzhin
No.578043
>US says Russia is going to invade Ukraine
>Russia says it's bullshit
>6 weeks later, Russia invades Ukraine
>US says Prigozhin is going to attempt a military coup
>Russia says it's bullshit
>6 weeks later, Prigozhin attempts a military coup
Does the US have access to a crystal ball
No.578046
what is the materialist explanation behind this? why did prigozhin turn on putin? aren't they both bourgeois?
No.578053
Is the Prigozhin coup scandal actually happening or is it another western psyop?
No.578057
wagner maoism is real all along
No.578060
>>578034https://t.me/milinfolive/102468<This is not a military coup, but a march of justice. Our actions will not interfere with the military,(machine translation)
No.578064
>>578043Confirmation bias, retard
No.578067
>>578043Nice reddit spacing agent morales
No.578069
>SOBR fighters of the Ministry of Internal Affairs were sent from Moscow to Belgorod by plane," ASTRA sources in the department.
Prigozhin is retarded, he'll have to hide in Ukraine or some other country if he wants to live as a relatively free man. Unless it's all just spectacle, of course, but doesn't look like it.
No.578072
>>578028What does this mean?
No.578078
>>578072wagner bad russia good
No.578080
https://t.me/rian_ru/206667FSB confirms coup
"In response to these statements, the FSB of Russia has launched a criminal case over calls for an armed uprising. We demand to stop these unlawful actions at once."
No.578082
>>578046Prigozhin was Putin's chef so Prigozhin is proletariat. Putin was hand chosen by Yeltsin and other western lovimg liberals so is reactionary. Critical support for Comrade Prigozhin in expanding the Special Military Operation to a Special Class Warfare Operation.
No.578086
>>578046>why did prigozhin turn on putin? aren't they both bourgeois?You are to dumb to live. Only death can fix this.
No.578089
>>578082>Pierogizhin was Putin's Chef>Putin was Lenin's chefat last I finally see
No.578093
>>578080>According to the National Anti-Terrorism Committee, the allegations spread on behalf of Yevgeny Prigozhin have no basis:The allegation he made that he's gonna coup putler? Is this mtl fucking up?
No.578096
>>578046>turn on putinI'm still skeptical that this is not staged. Prigozhin has been having hissyfits for a while and saying things that make no sense to say publicly, much less remain in his post after the fact. Even if something drastic comes out of it rather than chaff for the PR machine, It would be preposterous to be a play of his own rather than factions around the RF government.
No.578098
Got the copium posters saying nothing is happening. Same ones who were saying Russia was not going to go into Ukraine. Copium and damage control won't change the inevitable. Wagner and Russia gov are at odds
No.578104
>>578093The allegations that wagner's base was struck by rockets.
No.578107
>>578101your parents need to step up their cooking game son
No.578110
critical support for wagnerite lumpen war-socialism.
No.578117
>>578098There's no revolutionary situation, no popular unrest, nothing. There's not even a bourgeois need for a coup, and the coupers are literally whos with large media coverage
There's going to be a lot of noise out of a nothingburger
No.578123
>>578117this, and it'll rally up the spectacle, the war
was getting kinda boring tbh
No.578129
>>577876Prigozhin is right about a lot but waging a war on your ruling class when you're commonly targeted as Russian with them by imperialism is stupid. That is, unless, you can rally the people and escalate a struggle against imperialism into a struggle against all sorts of bindings on Russians. A mass struggle can never be defeated by a standing army. But in reality, I suspect we'll just get a destabilizing coup driven by disputes over the use of Wagner in the war which prevent it from waiting until after the war or something
No.578132
You know Hohols are losing hard when federal employees ramp up their demoralization campaign again.
No.578139
MOSCOW, June 23. /TASS/. Russia’s National Anti-Terrorism Committee on Friday demanded that Yevgeny Prigozhin, the founder of the private military company Wagner, stop unlawful actions and said the Russian Federal Security Service started a mutiny investigation in connection with his recent statements.
"The statements that are being spread on behalf of Yevgeny Prigozhin are absolutely unfounded. In connection with these statements, the Federal Security Service of Russia has started an investigation into a call for an armed mutiny. We demand that unlawful actions be stopped immediately," the committee said in a statement.
https://tass.com/russia/1637425 No.578148
>>578135>>578139Which one is true?
No.578153
>>578141He said he has 25k people with him. Not enough to take over anything.
No.578158
>>578153Fidel Castro had like 50 men when he liberated Cuba. Prigogin can manage.
No.578162
>>578153Lenin had fewer people in October
No.578180
>>578168>FSB calling it a coupSource: your ass.
>MOD calling it a coupSource: your ass.
>Prigozhin vowing vengeance against Russian MODSource: your ass.
No.578185
>>578162The situation was much more dire for the people back then. No one is starving right now, people are enjoying the summer.
No.578189
>>578162He had more than 30,000 dudes in Petrograd alone I'm pretty sure
No.578196
>>578162Comparing Prigozhin with Lenin. Agent Morales has hit a new low!
No.578200
>>578180There's been tass links posted here stating it and ria ru. Both Russia state media
No.578203
It's a nothingburger
No.578207
>>578200And where are those links? Conveniently missing from your post.
No.578211
>>578207Motherfucker are you illiterate
>>577944>>578080 No.578219
>>578185Yes, but revolution was done by Baltic fleet sailors, who weren't starving.
No.578223
>>578211>>578215Nice reddit spacing agents!
(this guy retarded fr) No.578228
>>578219It was done by Trotsky and his elite leather guard. Without a mobile red terror unit like that, soviet power would've never been established,
No.578242
I see people are falling for the CIA psyop again. You retards never learn.
No.578245
>>578238>The Russian communists should launch a preemptive coup to ummm defend democracy (crush capitalism)It would be cool if CPRF and Prigo could establish some kind of dual power scenario…
No.578254
>>578238Never will happen. KPRF is ultimately a social-democratic party and is not able to take state power.
No.578257
I don't actually have a TG account so no videos.
https://t.me/rybar/48875>Just an hour after Prigozhin's first comments, "videos from servicemen from the front line" went online . Both sides prepared for today's events in advance. The release of such videos is aimed at countering the transition of ordinary soldiers to the ranks of the Wagners and at creating an image for Shoigu of complete support by the army. https://t.me/KB_Announcments/127974> After accusations, in particular, by the head of Wagner PMC Yevgeny Prigozhin, that the Russian Armed Forces were retreating, the Russian military began to record appeals from different sectors of the front. The video was recorded by fighters from the Donetsk direction, Kherson region, Zaporozhye.
>“We are not going anywhere, no one is running. Calm Uncle Zhenya">- "We stand to the death on the lines of defense">- “All our guys are standing on the banks of the Dnieper and waiting for the crest to trample. No one runs to the Sea of Azov" >>1507937> telegram channelsThose two are official channels though, of Prigozhin and Ria Novosti a government controlled news agency.
No.578262
Nothing ever happens. You guys are like those /pol/ HAPPENINGS junkies
No.578266
>>1507979
I messed up the spacing because I'm retarded but I'm not gonna delete it
No.578269
>>578262Correct
>>1507979Belgorod offensive status?
No.578275
Another official source, machine translated:
https://tass.ru/proisshestviya/18102851>June 23, 19:48,<updated June 23, 19:59After Prigozhin's statements, a case was opened on incitement to armed rebellion<The National Anti-Terrorism Committee demanded to stop illegal actions
>MOSCOW, 23 June. /TASS/. The statements of the founder of PMC "Wagner" Yevgeny Prigozhin became the basis for initiating a criminal case on incitement to an armed rebellion. This was reported in the National Anti-Terrorism Committee. They called on Prigozhin to stop illegal actions.
>"The allegations spread on behalf of Yevgeny Prigozhin have no basis. In connection with these statements, the FSB of Russia initiated a criminal case on the fact of calling for an armed rebellion. We demand an immediate stop to illegal actions," the NAC said in a statement.
>Press Secretary of the head of state Dmitry Peskov said that Vladimir Putin was informed about the situation around Prigozhin, all necessary measures are being taken.>Earlier, the Ministry of Defense called false information disseminated on social networks about the alleged strike by the Russian Armed Forces on the "rear camps of PMC" Wagner ". No.578278
>>1507979>>578266first time posting on a chan, officer?
No.578283
>>578129>That is, unless, you can rally the people and escalate a struggle against imperialism into a struggle against all sorts of bindings on RussiansPrigozhin was against the USSR.
No.578296
>>578144>Reddit spacing<2023He obviously just pasted here. You are an autistic retard that offers nothing here whining because you got banned on reddit again. fuck off.
No.578300
>>578144>>578296what is reddit spacing exactly and why does it matter?
No.578307
>>578300it's just a way to instantly make someone buttmad, it doesn't really mean anything
No.578311
>>578300It's about putting spaces between paragraphs to make your post more readable instead of abgiant block of text. Only feds do it.
No.578315
>>1507979
Two more weeks.
No.578319
>>578288>phone imageNice try agent!
No.578323
>>578275He looks like if my foreskin got really old and sad. poor fella. :(
No.578327
>>578043>>US says Russia is going to invade UkraineOne: they were actively goading Ukraine into provoking Russia to make this happen. Two: they were saying this constantly for a year before things actually happened, and literally walked back their words right before then.
No.578331
>>578300>what is reddit spacing exactly and why does it matter?It doesn't literally at all anon, it is just some retard baiting and trying to derail. it is the same guy who is literally just sitting here and calling everyone an agent, a glowie, a fed, and etc. Probably just a child.
No.578338
>>578335oh no, they are going to make the Russian economy even stronger!
No.578342
>>578335Surely this will be the end of Russia says fascist cartel for the 37th time this year
No.578346
>>578335Who cares? Russia has shrugged off all sanctions. Russia-China trade is up 100% compared to pre-war.
No.578350
>>578346>>578342>>578338How about you read them instead of replying in 1 second.
No.578355
Telegram rumors of some kind of “Fortress” plan being activated in Rostov and Moscow. I’m not entirely sure what it is, probably some type of emergency preparedness/continuity of government thing.
It seems to be corroborated in Rostov by a report by what I think is regional media (machine translation):
>The Rostov police announced the "Fortress" plan, a law enforcement source reports. The personnel were notified of the need to be in full readiness, interlocutors in the authorities confirmed to 161.RU correspondents.>”There is an order to put the entire composition of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Russian Guard on alert and strengthen posts on the border with the LPR and DPR. But there is no boil. It’s just that the train was raised and called,” one of our interlocutors noted.>The press service of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs for the Rostov Region has not yet commented on the information. The answer to the editorial request was promised to be sent later.https://161.ru/text/gorod/2023/06/23/72430046/ No.578359
>>578335How do I dump my dollars into the Russian and Chinese economies
No.578363
>>578350Because we all know sanctioning Russia don't do shit, officer.
No.578371
>>578350It's just trolls anon. don't reply to them it only helps in further burying what you posted, which is their aim.
No.578380
>>578275It's afraid.
>>577876Go on Prigozhin, hang them all. Institute Stratocratic Ziggerism.
No.578388
>>578384Fuck off back to fbi.gov you dumb hazoid faggot.
No.578392
>>578388pathetic /isg/ chomo
No.578396
what do all the hazoids and tankies in this thread think about the coup lmao
No.578400
>>578350why are you angry?
highlight why these shouldn't be treated with the same
>mehlike the 11 packages before?
No.578404
What is the mental illness that causes someone to come into a thread to "troll" and then become extremely butthurt when replied to?
No.578407
ВСЁ ИДЁТ ПО-ПЛАНУ
No.578415
>>578407Ah yes, USSR 2.0.
I remember you retards at the start of the invasion.
No.578423
>>578261lel I just posted on another thread about late life trt discoverers behaving erratically
No.578427
>>578419What direction are they moving?
No.578439
>>578419>>57841950 and 80 km, and no pics? naaah bullshit.
No.578444
is this shit really happening?(One Post IP)
No.578451
>>1508051
>Realistically what would happen if Prigozhin took over?
Not much. Nobody would recognize it and it would destabilize the defense of Donbass and Crimea. Unless it mobilizes the people it'll do little, imo.
No.578458
THE MILLION ZIGGA MARCH LMFAO
No.578462
>>1508054
Hola reddit
No.578465
>>1508054
>You couldn't take Kyiv once your convoy broke down
who are you talking to NAFObot?
No.578468
>>1508054
Aaaand it's gone kek
No.578471
Imagine falling for CIA psyop AGAIN.
No.578474
>>578427Rostov na Donu I assume
No.578478
>>578451he's a large bourgie, he won't do shit if he takes over. he wants business as usual.
>>578455nah, he's going to be arrested. He's not the sole owner of wagner, rather a pr stunt manager. here's the summary of today's bald bold troll:
>For those who planned to relax this Friday evening.
>1. Prigozhin said that the rear camps of PMC "Wagner" were fired upon by the RF Armed Forces and that he was going to deal with Shoigu by force, since there were dead people there.>2. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reported that all this was an informational provocation, no one bombed the camps and the military perform their tasks in the SMO zone as usual.>3. Earlier, videos appeared on the network with fighters and commanders from various sectors of the front, who denied the loss of positions on the Vremievsky ledge and in the Rabotino area.>4. The public conflict between the leadership of PMC "Wagner" and the leadership of the Russian Defense Ministry continues to escalate. In conditions of war, the situation looks more and more intolerable. The open conflict that has been smoldering since last autumn must be stopped. No.578482
>>578396>lets trust a bunch of blood-thirsty corrupt capitalist mercs to do our dirty work instead of using our corrupt military<they betray us and try to take overThis might actually be fucked up beyond belief for the Russians, but its also kinda funny and also not really unexpected.
>>1508051Idk pseudo-fascism maybe? Perhaps socialism with Wagner characteristics? lol
No.578486
>>578455Of course you can trust a musician in a professional orchestra to carry his tune
If it becomes neccesary he will play whatever part is required
No.578490
Moscow. June 24. INTERFAX.RU - The initiation of a criminal case against the head of the Wagner group Yevgeny Prigozhin is legal and justified, the Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation reports.
"On June 23, 2023, the Investigation Department of the FSB of Russia legally and reasonably initiated a criminal case against E.V. Prigozhin under Article 279 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation on the fact of organizing an armed rebellion," the supervisory agency said.
"His actions will be given a proper legal assessment. This crime is punishable by imprisonment for a term of 12 to 20 years," the prosecutor's office added.
https://www.interfax.ru/russia/908728 No.578493
>>578471what even is the utility in this "putin coup" narrative if it isn't actually happening and is always disproven in less than an hour?
No.578497
According to the FSB CSO, all information disseminated in social networks on behalf of Prigozhin about the missile and bomb attacks allegedly inflicted by the Ministry of Defense on the rear units of the Wagner PMC is untrue and is an informational provocation.
The Russian Armed Forces continue to carry out combat missions on the line of contact with the armed forces of Ukraine in the area of the NMD.
Prigozhin's statements and actions are in fact calls for the start of an armed civil conflict on Russian territory and are a "stab in the back" to Russian servicemen fighting pro-fascist Ukrainian forces.
Due to the seriousness of the situation and the threat of an escalation of confrontation in the Russian Federation, the FSB initiated a criminalcase on the fact of a call for an armed rebellion by Prigozhin .
The CSO of the FSB urged not to make irreparable mistakes, to stop any forceful actions against the Russian people, not to carry out the criminal and treacherous orders of Prigozhin, and to take measures to detain him
https://t.me/s/rian_ru No.578500
>>578455No. The whole spectacle is confusing.
>>1508054Genuine question: what's wrong with this post?
No.578504
>>578497>>578490First time posting on chans, officer? Reddit spacing makes your posts stand out.
(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST - "Reddit spacing makes your posts stand out" HE SAYS IN A NASAL VOICE, WHEEZING) No.578516
>>578500>reddit spacingClassic
>Genuine questionConcern trolling
No.578523
>>578520War Monitor is a CIA outlet.
No.578531
who streaming
No.578537
My completely unfounded guess is that this is a psyop for the outside and the inside, to paper over some internal struggle that is already decided but in need of justification, as if change was happening when really it's just reshuffling. A purge/"anti corruption campaign", Yeltsinite style that complements the "existential struggle" of the overt cold war with some gossip fuel to quench demand for big changes in policy(regardless of approval).
No.578540
>>578508and that's why you don't rely on mercs.
>obey the commander in chiefheh, prigozhin isn't the commander in chief.
>confirm columnsnot 50, nor 80. hard to believe.
No.578549
>>578537That's the only thing I can come up with as well.
No.578556
>>578516The reddit spacing meme is dumb as shit. Stop trying to make this site even less readable. I don't care what you got used to during your time on 4/pol/.
No.578560
>>578508Translation:
>“On the orders of the Ministry of Defense, I have just arrived from the front line, where our troops, our commanders, our soldiers, fighters, volunteers, carry out the task, fight the enemy to the death, but stand in their positions. I appeal to the fighters and commanders of the Wagner PMC. Together with you we have passed a difficult difficult way. We fought together, took risks, suffered losses, won together. We are of the same blood. We are warriors. I urge you to stop. The enemy is just waiting for the internal political situation to worsen in our country. You can’t play into the hands of the enemy in these difficult times for the country.” No.578565
>>578553>the hillkek Agent Morales ain't trying no more
No.578573
>>578556Officer being mad he got found out
No.578583
>>578556This retard can´t even use punctuation. Don't bother, and let him play with his little smoke screen.
No.578587
>>578583>punctuation/u/spez would be proud!
No.578592
>>578573Reddit spacing rules disqualify most oldfags because the meme is definitely post-2016 4chan /pol/ shit. So it's actually more indicative of a type of annoying 4/pol/ newfag who thinks imageboards need to be shitted up as hard as they can with "cope" and "seethe" and one-liner accusations.
No.578596
>>578500>what's wrong with this post?utkin meme for one. if russia was promoting fascism, we wouldn't have to find unconfirmed photos of people we know little about for an org we know little about. there's no intrigue involved in discovering whether a state systematically promotes fascism, look at ukraine. many far-rightists in cabinets and parliamentary leadership positions, state dependence on nationalist paramilitaries mobilized by a nationalist revolution, rehabilitation of nazi collaborator states, individuals, and armies, and of course positing an ethnic conflict as a way to regenerate the nation
kiev is also false, there was no failed assault on the city that ukraine defeated
No.578600
>>578089Better delete this before the culinary mafia gets to you.
No.578604
>>578592>reddit spacing is post-2016Found. Out.
No.578616
Apparently there is still no police or national guard at Wagner HQ, what is going on lol
No.578620
Can you guys stop shitting up the board. Talk about the conflict
No.578634
>>578627Hey officer, your post is really obvious.
No.578638
>>578634>switched to using punctuationThat's cute!
No.578642
>>578596>kiev is also false, there was no failed assault on the city that ukraine defeatedKiev was the only good accusation he made, I don't see how anyone can deny it at this point unless you're really a Russian true believer.
No.578646
>>578638Hey reddit, you're not welcome here
No.578656
FSB urged Wagner fighters not to follow Prigozhin's orders
Moscow. June 24. INTERFAX.RU - The Public Relations Center (DSP) of the FSB issued a statement describing Yevgeny Prigozhin's statements as a crime and betrayal and called on the Wagner PMC fighters to take measures to detain him.
"We call on the PMC fighters not to make an irreparable mistake, to stop any forceful actions against the Russian people, not to carry out the criminal and treacherous orders of Prigozhin, and to take measures to detain him," the statement says.
https://www.interfax.ru/russia/908729 No.578666
>>578660OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH
No.578677
>>578631Oligarchic hellhole vs greedy mercs
its over…
No.578683
https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-army-retreating-yevgeny-prigozhin-wagner-boss-feud-anti-war-tirade/This shit is embarrassing. If Putin was really muh strongman this dude would have been shot on the red square. Bunch of cucks. Need all sides to lose heavily so we can get some revolutionary defeatism going on.
(One Post IP) No.578687
The fog of war is striking hard it seems. I wonder if the wagner coup is real; maybe it'll force cucktin to start purging oligarch leadership and do another mobilization. It's entirely possible that this is just ukranoids taking advantage of mistrust between wagner and the the MOD.
No.578696
no im not
No.578700
>>578627kek do ultras do anything but seethe about anti-imperialism?
No.578705
OFFICIAL MOST HILARIOUS DAYS ON /UKRAINE/ POWER RANKINGS
1. Feb 24, 2022
2. Today
3. Feb 22, 2022
4. Whenever Kharkov retreat happened
5. when the counteroffensyiv started and all the leopards got burnt
No.578709
I like boobs
No.578713
>>578672Doubt much is going to happen. Ukrop types are hoping there will be an internal military coup by disgruntled soldiers, but I don't see it.
However many troops Wagner had, it's not going to be enough. Not to mention that a lot of those aren't standing army men, but random mooks. Their loyalty isn't iron clad or ideological.
No.578718
>>578683MODS = GODS. CIA psyop got found out.
(Also One Post IP) No.578729
I see mods are doing "muh both sides"
No.578733
>>578656However, the Russia state are prepared if they are this dumb.
>Moscow RN.>>578608He's appealing to the wagner commanders to not follow prigozhin orders. He's the immediate link between wagner and the ministry of defence, as is said in the reports, and also a national hero.
No.578738
>>578729>I see mods are doing "muh both sides"leftypol coup when?
No.578744
>>578718mods it's cool that you flag one post IPs but some of us use VPNs and we aren't always devious state actors. By all means stay frosty though.
No.578749
https://t.me/s/rian_ruGeneral Surovikin addressed the Wagner group: we have come a hard way, I urge you to stop, obey the will of the president, and solve all problems peacefully
No.578758
>>578753Nothing new under the sun, ey?
No.578763
>>578733Thank you! Do you know anything about if this so-called Fortress plan has been activated, and if so what it is?
No.578774
>>578723The Chinese word for crisis is Wei Ji 危机 Wei means crisis while Ji means opportunity. In the ancient Chinese philosophy, opportunities often arise from crisis.
No.578785
wagner setting up donda house near center of moscow ?
No.578790
How will Wagner get ammo?
No.578794
>>578790Say it with me!
See!
Eye!
Aye!
No.578799
" Security measures have been strengthened in Moscow, all the most important facilities, state authorities and transport infrastructure facilities have been taken under enhanced protection ," the law enforcement agencies told us.
According to the interlocutor of the agency, the OMON and SOBR units of the Russian Guard were raised on alarm.
Earlier, several audio recordings with his statements were posted on Prigozhin's Telegram channel. In particular, he claimed that his units were allegedly attacked, blaming the military leadership of the country for this.
The Ministry of Defense called false information about the alleged attack by the Russian Armed Forces on the "rear camps of PMC" Wagner ".
https://t.me/s/tass_agency No.578804
Waiting for the inevitable media pivot from Wagner being evil killer Nazis to being glorious democratic patriots fighting against Putin that we should give ammo and weapons too.
No.578817
The situation near the PMC Wagner Center building in St. Petersburg remains calm, there are no employees of the National Guard or other special services on the spot, our correspondent reports from the spot.
Earlier, several local Telegram channels published information that officers of the Russian Guard were allegedly conducting searches in the building. The centre's guard on duty refuted this information, answering the corresponding question of our correspondent: " Everything was quiet, the center worked all day in a regular mode ."
https://t.me/s/tass_agency No.578822
>>578631If this aint a psyop wagner are the ultras that will cause further misery on this earth.
No.578827
>>578817really makes you think
No.578832
>>578631Mercenaries ruling a country with nuclear weapons is a bad thing (unless you are a Posadist).
No.578842
>>578822true communism will happen, there will be NO democracy and NO working.
after that, the earth will be nuked and full posadism will be put in place.
No.578847
>>578842Finally a workable plan.
No.578852
Lieutenant General of the Army Alekseev also turned to the Wagner group: whatever your intentions, this is a blow to the back of the country and the president - a bigger blow to the image of Russia, the armed forces cannot be imagined, such a provocation could only be done by the enemies of the country
https://t.me/s/rian_ru No.578861
>>578837Rookie numbers tbh.
No.578866
It's a nothingburger. Prigozhin isn't even a soldier, he is as much leader of Wagner as Stoltenberg much Stoltenberg has the ability to send nato divisions to war. Wagner is lead by Russian military officers and intelligence services. No way he or Wagner has the ability to coup anything.
No.578870
>>578753>its more to the benefit of users to know that there are active spammers and ban evaders trying to astroturf their narratives on the siteyou're sabotaging us behind the lines modcuck, your days are numbered
No.578876
>>578627Everyone in my orhodiscord is seriously starting to panic. I thought tsar putin would pull through?? This is fucking fucked.
No.578881
If this coup is real I will stop using my hat
No.578885
I think this is a nothinburger. just noise. prigozhin can't rule russia nor can he balkanize it. he's probably just making noise on his telegram to make the burgers confused. the burgers are probably scrambling around CIA headquarters asking each other who authorized this coup that isn't even happening. Keep the enemy in disarray with constant rumors about yourself.
No.578890
>>578885I honestly just thought this is all just show to quickly arrest the dude, but idk at this point.
No.578896
>>578885>the burgers are probably scrambling around CIA headquarters asking each other who authorized this coupI chuckled
No.578901
>>578885I see there is q mentality but for Putin now
No.578912
Not gonna lie, former Prigozhin supporter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Wagner crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.
No.578916
I mean as fun as his antics were for war spectators, any serious leader would have prolly sacked prigozhin as soon as he started insulting generals on social media
what kind of idiot let a mercenary schizo talk shit in the middle of a war. cucktin I guess. What an embarrassment for russia, even if it ultimately doesnt really changes shit
No.578927
>>578901>now>>578890Why have this whole spectacle, tho?
It's all, so confusing.
>>578907Q.E.D.
No.578938
Well I got drunk and think I am going to sleep soon. If civil war breaks out tomorrow, it was an honor shitposting with you comrades
No.578942
there is no coup it's a psyop
No.578951
>>578942No shit. People still fall for CIA propaganda every single time though.
No.578961
>>578938If the scuffle gets heated, Prigozhin loyalists will be wiped from the face off the earth in no time. No real reason to despair yet.
No.578966
>>578938sweet dreams chuvak
No.578972
Prigozhin and the military command work hand in hand, all this is fake to bamboozled the ukrainoid "army"
No.578976
>>578885Ah finally a rational explanation. Prigozhin is just doing it for a little bit of fun.
No.578981
>>578938it's midsummer and all
No.578986
>>578951>CIA propagandaEvery source being posted here is directly from Russian state media. CIA has no control over statements by ria and tass. This is direct comments from Russian government
No.578991
I think this situation is a bit too unknown for us to call now. Could be a nothing burger, could be all out civil war, at this point I think its better to just sit and watch
No.578995
>>578972Then what's with all the mobilizations? Honest question.
No.579000
>>578901>Q mentality >because I think there's a nothingburgerisn't the true Q-Anon mentality thinking that there actually is a coup before it happens?
No.579005
>>578986Every post here cheering for this little "coup" is using reddit spacing.
No.579010
>>578976just like when he cried about being out of ammo
just before taking bakhmut No.579015
>>578991Something is definitely happening. More so a question of how significant the result will be.
No.579026
50% of peoples in this channel are OTAN bots or glowies
No.579030
>>579000Q mentality because thinks Wagner leader is making noise to confuse the west. Meanwhile every Russia state media outlet is taking this very seriously.
No.579040
heh
>Taking advantage of Prigozhin's provocation, the Kiev regime in the Artemovsk tactical direction is preparing for an offensive, the Defense Ministry said.
>Servicemen of the Southern Group of Forces defeat the enemy with air and artillery strikes.
could this be a very elaborated rouse to make the hohols run to the enemy lines?
No.579044
>>578916>I mean as fun as his antics were for war spectators, any serious leader would have prolly sacked prigozhin as soon as he started insulting generals on social mediaUnless it was a psyop to begin with because it makes no fucking sense for a climber who has navigated the RF Kremlin kleptocracy his whole life, right to the top.And who seemingly just struck gold, to then go ruin it for no reason.
I makes more sense if one believes the "narrative" of Prigozhin as an "outsider" being dispensed a special permit to prove himself, doing so as an upstart and being dismayed with how the sausage is really done. But of course that is a fantasy.
So I'm still betting on a psyop.
No.579052
>>578995psyop from the FSB
No.579057
>>579005>le Reddit spacing Oh noes, the in group """"chan culture"""" has deemed some posts to be wrong/liberal/glowing purely due to a difference in post formatting.
No.579061
>>578753you are bombing our camp. provide shells now.
No.579065
>>579057Because it's 100% accurate. Now try again, officer!
No.579069
>>579044I agree with all of this, but there's one thing you're overlooking: maybe Prigozhin is just another retarded bourgie.
No.579082
>>578921nah mane, priggy is a shitposter
No.579090
>>579078alternate world where he wasn't a psychopath
No.579094
>>579061>you are bombing our camp. provide shells now.maybe its time for our own coup here
No.579104
>>579078Stepan Bandera moments after being informed that the tsars killed thousands of Jews
No.579108
I'm hearing from very close sources that Wagner mercenaries in Africa have all been told to prepare to take on the Russian military. Prigozhin isn't joking at all.
The situation in Russia between Yevgeny Prigozhin and the defense ministry is creating panic in the Malian military junta, a senior government official tells me. Mali is so reliant on Wagner for military assistance.
Let no one ever underestimate Yevgeny Prigozhin. He is more powerful than many people think. Even Vladimir Putin knows that.
https://twitter.com/PhilipObaji No.579122
I come here and all I can see is a fucking psyop and leftypol falling for it.
No.579125
>>579108Very close but unnamed sources
No.579129
>>579122CIA tricking retards, name a more iconic duo.
No.579133
>>579114Keep up the good work, Pede!
No.579141
>>579122half of us are literally calling it out nonstop, mods are clearing out the noise, nobody can even link an English RT article (bare minimum) they're just like "russian media is saying this". it's all noise baby. a nothingburger
No.579146
>>579133Your division tactics won't work here Agent Morales.
No.579151
>>579122a board tradition at this point, one might say.
No.579156
>>579122everyone here said russia invading ukraine was a psyop by the west to keep funding the military and sell weapons. i think there is a major power struggle going on.
No.579161
The Kiev regime, taking advantage of Prigozhin's provocation, is concentrating several brigades in the Bakhmut tactical direction for the offensive, the military of the "Southern" group strikes at the enemy -RIA
https://t.me/s/rian_ru No.579164
>>579122Leftism attracts egalitarians but unfortunately also attracts retards.
No.579168
>>579108>wagner will fight the russian military in africashit uygha, the ultras here weren't kidding about russian imperialism
No.579172
>>579164So leftism attracts retards exclusively? Nice.
(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST - BEGONE, CHINLET) No.579185
>>579156there is no coup it's a FSB psyop to own the westoid
No.579194
>>579141Ive been linking tass and ria. They are the exact same thing as RT. Go look up what they are.
No.579204
>>579161Good, maybe they'll force Cucktin into some actual maneuver warfare instead of le meatgrinder 2.0
No.579211
>>579204Seethe, Westerner.
No.579220
no coup video fake OWNED RETARDS
No.579224
>>579217Explain any difference between tass and ria with rt. Go ahead
No.579228
>>579172Where are MODS when psyop gets this obvious?
No.579234
>>579207RT in Russia is bouncing the news:
https://t.me/rt_russian/162961The video about the consequences of the alleged strike on the Wagner PMC camp was called a production on the air of Channel One No.579244
>>579211Reminder that all the fighting in Bakhmut was done by DPR and Wagner forces. With Wagner probably boutta be purged and DPR's adult male population ground down to a nub thanks to Cucktin refusing to advance, who's gonna fight the next meatgrinder for him? Nobody.
No.579252
>>579207Claiming the video is fake but also acknowledging the FSB is investigating him for incitement to rebellion??
No.579255
>>578938Спокойной ночи товарищ. Hope we'll see you again safely o7
No.579263
>>579244>DPR in BakhmutGot a source for that?
No.579267
So it's almost been 5 hours since Prigozhin video and Wagner military and Russian military haven't even clashed yet? Shouldn't coups be time sensitive?
No.579277
What the fuck is happening lmao. Is this some maskirovka shit before Wagner launch an offensive from Belgorod towards Kharkov? Or has Prigozhin actually gone full sicko mode?
No.579284
>>579161they can't be that stupid to fall for this again after Bakhmut?
No.579289
Moscow. June 24. INTERFAX.RU - The Russian military reported that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are concentrating forces for an offensive in the Artemovsky (Bakhmutovsky) direction, taking advantage of the situation around the head of the Wagner group, Yevgeny Prigozhin.
"Taking advantage of Prigozhin's provocation to disorganize the situation, the Kiev regime in the Bakhmutovsky tactical direction is concentrating units of the 35th Brigade and the 36th Marine Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the starting lines for offensive operations," the Defense Ministry said in a press release.
https://www.interfax.ru/russia/908730 No.579291
>>579230By Prigozhin. He is trying to lull Putin into false sense of security.
No.579295
>>579263Go look up interviews with Russell Bentley where he explains how most of his friends are dead and that Wagner and DPR forces were the only ones doing anything. Russian MoD was sabotaging the effort from the beginning.
No.579298
>>579277>maskirovkaif it is I will attach rollerskates to kneepads
No.579302
Until I see Prighozin being sworn in, nothing burger
No.579306
>>579274??? You didn't respond to my question. What is different between tass and ria with rt. Go ahead tell me
No.579312
QUICKLY CYCLE THE THREAD AGAIN!
SEAL IT BACK! STOP THE HAPPENING!
No.579322
Video about the consequences of the alleged strike on the Wagner PMC camp on the air of Channel One is called a production
https://t.me/s/rian_ru No.579333
>>579308What did you think would happen
No.579338
>>579318Ive never talked about that. All I've been doing is posting ria and tass links and you if are the person speaking earlier said you would trust rt not ria and tass. Explain to me what is different about ria and tass from rt. Why do you hold rt to a higher level? They are all state owned by Russia. Tell me your reasoning
No.579343
>>579252>Claiming the video is fake but also acknowledging the FSB is investigating him for incitement to rebellion??If the video is fake, could it be the West or Ukraine that made it and spooked the Russian state?
No.579348
>>579343Nah just an early mistranslation. Prigozhin is going to be purged if he doesnt go all in. TASS claimed the video he posted claiming a russian strike on wagner troops was a "production" saying he faked it to justify this rebellion.
No.579354
>>579291prigozhin's a convenient way to stage manage dissatisfaction/frustration with the war & play out internal drama
No.579359
>>579338My first post you responded to was me saying the coup isn't real.
>>579141 No.579362
Okay riddle me this. If the coup is real shouldn't there be armed conflict happening already?
No.579366
A CATERING TRAY JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
No.579371
>>579343Either that or maybe NATO has flipped Prigozhin? He is a merc after all and the yanks have deep pockets. I recall a few articles being posted online a few days ago by Western media about how Prigozhin is not really 'Putin's friend'. I think the glowies like to seed their narratives earlier before they show their cards, and maybe this was such a case. If ukrop forces seem to take advantage of the confusion immediately, colour me suspicious.
No.579375
>>579359This is what you said
>nobody can even link an English RT article (bare minimum When I've been linking interfax, tass and ria articles and other posters here have too. They've all been taking this situation seriously. You made it sound like you won't take it serious till rt English writers something which I'm sure they have. All these papers are owned by Russia state media. Why is it that when you see links to tass ria and interfax they don't make you feel it's as serious as if you saw one by rt? There must be a reason you feel it. Tell me your thought process
No.579383
>>579375Prove. The. Coup.
No.579386
>>579383Don't bother responding to agent Morales
No.579396
>>579383Why won't you answer my question that i have asked many times. What I've done is post updates. Nothing else. I haven't claimed anything at any point. My question is only about why you take RT more seriously than tass, ria and interfax. Can you tell me?
No.579404
>>579392>>579399Funny because Prigozhin has said nothing of the sort.
No.579408
The air raid alert sounds in these minutes in the Sumy, Kharkiv, Poltava, Dnepropetrovsk, Odessa and Nikolaev regions of Ukraine
https://t.me/s/rian_ru No.579412
>>579404yeah and i expect more of that in the coming days
No.579418
noooo russian mod we're almost out of ammo ukraine pls don't send more troops to bakhmut. nooooo russian mod must be overthrown, lets hope ukraine doesnt try to take advantage of the situation & turn around the counter offensive
No.579422
>>579396>why you take RT more seriously than tass, ria and interfax. Can you tell me?Never said I did. I suggested them saying a coup has occurred is the bare minimum. My point was nobody has stated in Russian media that a coup has occurred. Prove the coup.
No.579425
What is known about the case against Prigozhin.
In social networks, on behalf of the head of Wagner PMC Yevgeny Prigozhin, information began to appear about the strike by the Russian Armed Forces on the "rear camps" of a private military company. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reported that this information is false.
About initiating a case
◾️Prigozhin's statements became the basis for initiating a criminal case on incitement to an armed rebellion, the National Anti-Terrorism Committee reported. They called on Prigozhin to stop illegal actions.
◾️The Prosecutor General's Office stated that a criminal case against the founder of PMC "Wagner" under Article 279 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation on the fact of organizing an armed rebellion was initiated lawfully and reasonably. The agency clarified that it would give a proper legal assessment of his actions.
The reaction of the FSB and the Ministry of Defense
◾️The FSB called on the Wagner PMC fighters to take measures to detain Prigozhin and refuse to follow his orders.
◾️The Russian Defense Ministry said that Kyiv took advantage of the provocation of the head of the Wagner PMC and is preparing for an offensive.
The situation in the country
◾️The Moscow Exchange index during the evening session fell by more than 3%.
◾️In Rostov-on-Don, posts were set up near the headquarters of the Southern Military District. The central streets of the city are patrolled by police cars, in the west of Rostov, the sounds of flying aircraft are heard.
◾️There was no activity near the PMC Wagner Center building in St. Petersburg.
◾️The most important objects of Moscow were taken under increased protection, security measures in the capital were strengthened.
Reaction in the world
◾️The United States said it was closely monitoring the situation in Russia after Prigozhin's statements, CNN reports.
The video recording of the alleged strike on the location of the Wagner PMC is staged. This was stated by the presenter on the air of Channel One during a special news release.
" A video of the alleged consequences of a strike [on the position of the Wagner PMC] has appeared]. Obviously, this is a staged performance ," the presenter said, referring, among other things, to the investigations of the author of the Rybar Telegram channel.
Including, she stressed, the lack of other video evidence speaks of the staging of the video in the first place.
https://t.me/s/tass_agency No.579429
I wonder if the escalation is this:
>Burgers flip Prigozhin, he creates chaos in Russia trying to coup or some shit
>Ukrops take advantage of this and launch renewed offensives
>As part of these new offensives, NATO/Ukranian spec ops are able to sneak into the Zapo nuclear plant
>False flag attack blows it up, blame placed on warring Russian factions
>NATO given green light to enter war thanks to that recent Bill introduction
Timing of all this is way too convenient IMO
No.579431
>>579425>In social networksYawn
No.579445
>>579429I saw someone asking earlier today "why doesn't the US just pay off Wagner to fight Russia," and I called him a retard and said they were too loyal. Then an hour later this shit happened.
No.579447
>>579425Already debunked, Channel Russia-1 said it was a staged video. Nothingburger.
No.579453
>>579429He needs to get to Russia first. If all of this is real, I think Wagner would get absolutely decimated by the Russian army.
No.579457
>>579447 (me)
well, 'nothingburger' that puts on yellow alert the state, and it was issued an FSB alert on the bald bold troll.
No.579460
>>579453Doesn't even need to do that. Just causing enough chaos in Russian back lines would be fine for the Ukranians.
No.579465
>>579447Do you understand the implications of that though? Lmfao they are saying its staged to discredit and delegitimize prigozhin not to exonerate him retard
No.579470
>>579460If he wants Russia to use nukes that's exactly what he would do.
No.579475
>>579460Especially if he's been promised somewhere cushy and safe by western glowies in the event that Wagner gets demolished
No.579480
>>579460Yeah in that case, even a little ruckus would become a huge inconvenience. I wonder if Wagner will actually start defecting to Ukraine or if it'll be a three way between them, Russia, and Ukraine.
No.579484
>>579465>>579465cool. better. off him now.
No.579491
>>579074>>579065Meds. If you think you can identify a "glowie" by their "Reddit spacing", you can blow a fat one.
Reminder that 2005 era 4chan users were apparently "Reddit spacing" before Reddit was even a thing
No.579500
>>579480Yeah, I think that's how we'd know for sure it was a Western-backed thing. NATO glowies are too arrogant for them not to have their assets immediately declare for their side, and proclaim obsessively for the 'rule-based' order and western values
No.579504
>>579496this can't be real lol
No.579506
>>579496If this is legit, I'm calling this as a NATO op. No way wagner can so smoothly hack into national tv networks and time it perfectly with the chaos.
No.579509
HOLY FUCK BROS ARE WE ALL GONNA DIE???????.?
No.579513
>>579506Would they be working with Wagner or acting alone and taking advantage of the situation? It does seem really suspicious for them to have the capability of doing this if it is actually Wagner's doing.
No.579517
>>579496This is at least a week old.
Source: I'm terminally online.
No.579519
Can't wait to see how the Russian nationalist posters that have been jerking Wagner off for the past year wrap their minds around this.
No.579523
>>579491>gR6CrK6.jpgimgur (reddit) filename format. Try again, officer.
No.579525
>>579513I'd guess working with Wagner. Unless NATO's info war centre or whatever the fuck it's called is incredibly flexible and able to easily pull off time sensitive stuff like this adhoc
No.579529
>>5795234chan archives pretty much universally use imgur. Back to /chug/ with you.
No.579540
>>579519Why would they? Group infighting isn't new. It happens in leftist groups, rightists groups and everything inbetween.
No.579544
The movement of cars is blocked on the highway M-4 "Don" in the direction of Aksai at the exit from Rostov-on-Don, our correspondent reports.
https://t.me/s/tass_agency No.579547
>>579519bonapartist threat has been purged with extreme violence in leftist history tho
No.579551
Channel One presenter Ekaterina Andreeva explained live why the video about the consequences of the alleged attack on the Wagner camp was staged.
The first sign, she says, is the absence of other video evidence; statements on behalf of Prigozhin were distributed in the format of audio messages, the metadata of which is the same - they were all recorded at the same time and published in a delayed mode.
"And, finally, the third sign of a fake: no more than 15 minutes passed from the moment the video with the consequences of alleged strikes was published to the moment the first video with statements appeared. With all modern technologies, it is hardly possible to collect all the reports from the field in such a short time, analyze the consequences and write down messages," Andreeva concluded.
https://t.me/s/rian_ru No.579558
>>579554What ultranationalists lmao
Prigozhin is in the same cuck party as Putin
No.579565
But how can /leftypol/ stop prigozhin? Has he grown too strong even to our influence? Russian capitalist imperialist oligarchy must be protected at all cost even from any kind of opportunist revolution.
No.579571
>>579565prigozhin is a man of the people tho, contrary to the bourgeois brained putin, if he win i will be with russia in their war
No.579579
When will Cucktin issue the new red lines?
No.579586
>>579506>If this is legit, I'm calling this as a NATO op. No way wagner can so smoothly hack into national tv networks and time it perfectly with the chaos.That's unlikely, but keep in mind that after sanctions fail the next best option for the West is betting how war is historically destabilizing for Russia. It has always been assumed that in a confrontation with the West, any modern Russian state would destabilize itself too much given that the West is much greater than Japan, Afghanistan, Germany, etc. and Russia is outright semi-colonial status after the Cold War. This is also why the Cucktin posters are kinda retarded, they don't even see how the West went into 2021 feeling able to unilaterally assert a solution to the Ukraine crisis.
However the Russian state has proved pretty resilient surprisingly. The only example running against the trend is Prigozhin and it wouldn't be surprising if the West exploits this
>>579519>Can't wait to see how the Russian nationalist posters that have been jerking Wagner off for the past year wrap their minds around this.Is there any evidence of Wagner actually doing anything, or is this all about another Prigozhin video that this time crossed a line?
No.579590
>>579568>Prigozhin not even visible>could easily be text to speech neural networkkek
No.579594
>it's not real
>it's fake
>it's psyops to [insert schizo belief]
>it's to cover the failed ukrainian assault in the south (four billion hohol tanks destroyed)
>prigozhin will be killed
>prigozhin will take over the army and it will be over for ukraine because "the real war will start"
No.579597
>>579551Fuck me, I'm probably gonna become the 'NATO 'psyop anon' now, but if the vid of the attack is faked by NATO, I wonder if it's being used as a means to justify Prigozhin's shitfit, but more importantly, throw the Russian public into ideological disarray. Invariably, some Russians will take the video as real and come out in support of Prig, causing further chaos.
No.579601
I don't believe the video is fake. I think Russia is giving him a second chance to change his mind and solve it internally. I keep seeing Russia media telegrams posting the videos by the Russian generals calling for calm even as of 2 minutes ago in some. They wouldn't be doing this if video is fake, the threat for rebellion is real ATM and they are trying to solve internally. It will shown what is true though if he takes real action, there is no way to claim it is fake at that point when it's provable with overt rebellious act out in open
No.579604
my real take is that putin work hand in hand with prigozhin against the military command + state bureaucracy of russia: all of them as stoped the country from going full mobilisation of economy. Putin hasn't spoked yet, prigozhin hasn't talked at all against putin. Thought on this guys
No.579611
>>579597Broke: Russia bombed Wagner, Prigozhin is retaliating
Woke: Wagner false flagged and bombed themselves to justify a coup
Bespoke: NATO bombed Wagner from behind Russian lines to frame Russia and make Prigozhin retaliate
No.579619
I mean, fake or not, for all the show the RF government is making of it… how come there are no images of this army moving? The government has the entire security apparatus, and social media would be full of people filming the Wagner PMC's march.
>>579575lol
No.579634
>>579623This just tells me that Russian media is the same as Western media but for Russia.
No.579638
>>579590the video is garbage for more than that:
>Information about the missile strike is fake. There are no traces of a rocket attack on any of the frames of the video: there are no craters, scorched trees, and traces of buildings of the supposedly destroyed camp.
>The shown dugout has no signs of collapse, and instead of burning buildings, tents or cars, the viewer is shown only two sources of fire, reminiscent of specially made bonfires.
>The person filming the video, despite the ostentatious panic, knows exactly where to go and what to shoot. He confidently points the camera at the only object that can be identified as the remains of a murdered person, knowing in advance where this object is located.
>In addition, the off-screen text, for all its simulated emotionality, gives the impression of being memorized in advance. People allegedly subjected to an unexpected missile attack in a few seconds of the stampede have time to analyze what happened and even name the culprit it's saying in Russian it's Shoigu and Gerasimov No.579642
>>579634shocking revelation
No.579646
Holy shit, are we witnessing the death of Russian nationalism and the rebirth of nuanced discussion? I'm shocked.
No.579649
Ukrainian sources: There's no evidence any military conflict is going on in Russia right now
No.579652
>>577769Tiktok is filled with reports that Wagner is now at war with Russia.
FYI.
No.579665
>>579652Are they actually engaging in combat with Russian servicemen?
No.579669
Russian libs should kill themselves.
No.579672
Wagner columns should return to their places of permanent deployment, Surovikin said
Moscow. June 24. INTERFAX.RU - Sergey Surovikin, deputy commander of the joint group of troops (forces) in the special military operation zone, said that the Wagner group needs to stop the columns and return them to their permanent deployment points.
“Before it’s too late, and what needs to be done, and what needs to be done is to obey the will and order of the popularly elected President of the Russian Federation, stop the columns, return them to their permanent deployment points and areas of concentration, solve all problems only by peaceful means under the leadership of the Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation ", - says Surovikin's appeal, distributed by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
Surovikin said that by order of the leadership of the Ministry of Defense, he left the front line.
"I urge you to stop. The enemy is just waiting for the domestic political situation to escalate. You can't play into the hands of the enemy in this difficult time for the country," he said.
https://www.interfax.ru/russia/908731 No.579675
>>579646Multipolarism is the nuanced discussion.
No.579679
>>579665No video, audio or even anecdotal evidence yet.
No.579690
The Ministry of Defense, the FSB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Russian Guard report to Vladimir Putin around the clock on the measures taken after the instructions given by the head of state in connection with an attempted armed rebellion.
Earlier, the FSB opened a criminal case on the fact of an armed rebellion after the statements of Yevgeny Prigozhin.
https://t.me/s/tass_agency No.579693
>>579675I'm sorry anon, multipolarism dies here.
No.579697
>>579672Don't stop war reporting the
column that no one has seen, has stopped:
https://t.me/dontstopwar/9867>According to our information, the columns stopped. Somehow it doesn't fit. I hope the Supreme and Prigozhin solve the problem between themselves. No.579701
>it's a Russian psyop
>it's a Ukrainian psyop
Everyone in this thread needs to kill themselves (excluding myself)
No.579704
>>579701It's a CIA psyop.
No.579708
So even if they manage to avoid actual combat and killing between Wagner and the Russian army, how will the trust of Wagner leadership ever be restored? Unless they purge anyone, if Prigozhin just backs off peacefully I don't think the Russian military and political leadership would trust him again. Wagner would be out of the game, but how would that be carried out? And would that mean the Russian army lost its most powerful auxiliary force, that actually happened to do a lot of the heavy lifting themselves.
No.579711
>>579704No it's a russian psyop
No.579720
>>579701you will be curiously silent when the russian federation still exists tomorrow, prigozhin didn't coup anyone, and the slow boring meat grinder war continues
No.579724
>>579715Careful about that antisemitism
No.579732
>>579422he fell silent lol
No.579736
imagine if the kprf did something… hah….
No.579743
>>579732I'm here in still posting updates. He answered but question that he sees rt, ria and tass as same. That's all asked. I've never made any claims i just post updates as I've been doing all thru the thread.
No.579747
>>579044>because it makes no fucking sense for a climber who has navigated the RF Kremlin kleptocracy his whole life, right to the top.And who seemingly just struck gold, to then go ruin it for no reason.Being rich doesn't guarantee that you're mentally stable and rational to the extent that you would play it safe to maintain your wealth and a good standing with the political class. Prigozhin has always been an unstable risk-taker, he served almost a decade of prison from armed robbery in the 80s.
No.579751
>>579743He answered my question*
No.579755
>>579739Oh, the /chug/ burger larping as a Russian war hero has retvrned. Give us your verdict and and how everyone is wrong with 2 lines of greentext and a reaction image
No.579759
>>579519wait at least 3 days before assuming any major news like war or coup is true. 9 times out of 10 fizzlegang wins. Sizzle gang is the washington generals. Fizzle gang is the globetrotters. Sizzle gang wins so rarely but they're super cocky when they do.
No.579764
>>579755>Oh, the /chug/ burger larping as a Russian war hero has retvrned.he's ukrainian. if you actually lurked you'd know this
No.579768
An air alert was also announced in Kyiv, as well as in the Chernihiv, Vinnitsa, Kyiv, Zhytomyr and Kirovohrad regions of Ukraine
https://t.me/s/rian_ru No.579771
>>579759rare fizzle gang poster holding down the fort in these darkest years of sizzle
No.579776
>>579768Hours old news. Russian missile strike in Ukraine is not even new
No.579780
>>579615not related to the thread, but those Patriot Front feds wanted to get caught on purpose to accelerate reactionary anger in the USA
No.579784
Krasnov reported to Putin on the initiation of a case on an attempted armed rebellion
Moscow. June 24. INTERFAX.RU - Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation Igor Krasnov made a report to President Vladimir Putin in the context of initiating a criminal case on an attempt to organize an armed rebellion, reporting on the legality of legal actions, said the press secretary of the Russian leader Dmitry Peskov.
"The Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation Krasnov reported to Putin in the context of initiating a criminal case in connection with an attempt to organize an armed rebellion," Peskov said.
According to him, the Prosecutor General also informed the head of state about the legality of initiating such a criminal case.
https://www.interfax.ru/russia/908732 No.579787
>>579764They only show their face around here when there's a chance multipolaristas can get owned.
No.579791
>>579720Oh I'm not doubting that this is a nothingburger and that /k/opers are here spamming, but analyzing something that happened a few hours ago when both sides (don't le both sides me) engage in info warfare is foolish.
No.579795
>>579791Yet you left out the biggest psyop generator of them all - the CIA. Curious.
No.579799
The social network "VKontakte" blocked one of the statements of the founder of PMC "Wagner" Yevgeny Prigozhin.
On the page of the press service of the Concord company, owned by Prigozhin, on the social network, instead of a statement published on June 23 at 21:52 Moscow time, a message appeared stating that the material was blocked on the territory of the Russian Federation based on the decision of the Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation dated June 23, 2023 .
Photo: vk.com/Concord press service
https://t.me/s/tass_agency No.579805
I was skeptical that the statements being by Prigozhin on a big telegram were legit but now vk blocking them i lean towards them being real.
No.579808
>>579693it's not a good look ngl
No.579812
>>579708Something tells me that Russia is kind of fucked no matter what at this point, waiting for China to step in and just vassalize Russia and be done with it.
No.579819
>>579802There is no graphic evidence at all of this happening. How is this possible?
No.579827
>>579812Sizzlegang never win.
No.579832
How come that attention whore Kadyrov has not said anything?
No.579836
>>579823Not boned at all? Prigozhin hasn't said anything about Putin.
No.579840
dropkick mercs…..
No.579843
>Both-Sidists all show up when they smell some blood in Russia's water
is there any reason to pretend anymore that they aren't just crypto-natoids longing for russia defeat/ukraine victory?
No.579846
>>579832Neither did Putin.
No.579850
>>579843This thread is under constant NAFO psyop.
No.579854
>>579795I don't care, dude. The CIA, mossad, mi6, freemasons, whoever. I'm a regular poster here, I'm just not into playing guessing games while everyone is trying to mindfuck each other lol.
No.579858
>>579832Waiting and seeing. When it looks clear Prigozhin will be arrested eventually, that's when he'll lecture him publicly.
No.579863
>>579854Bothsidists like you always miss the big picture.
No.579875
gib streams
No.579882
>>579795>>579854These two posts caused unreasonable laughter on me, idk why.
No.579899
>>579693>I'm sorry anon, multipolarism dies here.I doubt it, unfortunately we now know it's going to be a long new century. But still, multipolarism has arrived as the negation of the negation. We left behind national for international capitalism only to conclude with decolonization, or perhaps inter-imperialist antagonism, unipolarity, and emergence.
It seems forced to rise by the crisis of liberalism in the negation, and Russia has been the most driven away from it. Russia as a global crossroads of sorts has accordingly come to play a very significant role as a pivot between the two, having gone from embracing 1989 to freezing decommunization. With a wavering Russia finally settled on the world and how much it has to converge with the West to modernize, alternatives can now start rising with China as the chief engine. That's why the two are in together so deep.
These global conditions aren't going away anytime soon. You're going to just have to try your best to update theory and not fight too much.
No.579903
>>579887Everyone here was a sizzler over Kazakhstan and look how that turned out.
No.579907
>>579899lmao dude this shit will be completely irrelevant by next year
No.579911
>>579907>lmao dude this shit will be completely irrelevant by next yearUm…you need to read moar kek
No.579920
>>579911I have a real soft spot for multipolar/MAGA communist/Haz types, and like half of their theory is correct - but you're not gonna win anyone over with the orthodox ML talk. ML is completely discredited both theoretically, historically, and to the vast majority of Americans.
What multipolars would be wise to do is drop the tankie-adjacent stuff, drop the anti-LGBT stuff and keep everything else. You'd probably win a lot of ppl that way. But keep the ML shit and its a death sentence.
No.579925
WHERE IS KADYROV
No.579931
>>579925Kadyrov will STOP Prigovyn at ROSTOV with his OWN HANDS
No.579935
>>579920>ML is completely discredited both theoretically, historically, […] to the vast majority of Americans. Umm good?
The more I hear burgers open their mouths the less I want them to have nice things
No.579947
>>579935That's fair, but multipolar types want an explicitly mass movement in America to my understanding.
No.579952
>>579903Actually kazakhstan was a point of friction between our ziggers and our principled socialists, mainly because the ziggers said "CSTO country good" while our principled socialists said "why does kazakhstan have american biolabs, act neutral between the east and west, idolize ukrainization of the language, and build statues in honor of the nazi turkestan legion doe?" and "why do the banned communist parties of kazakhstan overwhelmingly support the protests while european leadership has come out in support of the government?". The kazakhstan issue was buried with the protests. Some people say it was only a leadership factional dispute between corrupt oligarchs.
No.579957
>>579863>BothsidistI'm a bothsidist in the sense that I realize that both sides have schizos who can't into historical materialism and label everyone a hohol or vatnik when their viewpoints are barely challenged.
No.579965
>>579961Thanks for proving my point.
No.579978
need op images for next thread
No.579982
>>579920You probably should stop taking e-celeb shit so seriously
No.579990
>>579974were back on the kino timeline.
were so back.
No.579994
>>579986as of yet the front runner
No.579999
>>579965You're probably from reddit.
No.580011
>>579947What a shit understanding you have, then.
No.580029
>>579920I'm not really sure what you are saying. I see three choices. You can go first campist and decide to shill for liberal-capitalism, you can update the second camp and its formula of class struggle on one side of the colonial contradiction and national struggle on the other, or you can decide finally now is the time for the third camp where we can pronounce that neither democracy nor imperialism is the global contradiction and it's really just capitalism period
This choice can't be made on the basis of American or Western sensibilities…why would it be?
No.580044
>>580034Oh yeah I follow reputable sources only.
No.580053
new bread >>1508510
No.580056
What is this wagner coup stuff msm is reporting? Is it complete bunk?
No.580058
>>580056Of course it's not
Musicians will storm a position knowing they'll die if ordered to
No.580061
>>579491How comparable is 2004 4chan to 2023 leftypol?
No.580064
>>579728this guy literally turned out to be right
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