/lgbt/ - LGBT

Bookmarked :thumbsup:

>>4622
>>4621
im actually so dumb, the date is wrong. fixed:
https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/blog/posts/2025-11-04-On-The-Transgender-Question.html

tl;dr?

also my flag is in spanish

>>4621
Not sure what you mean by the double cross stuff.

I'm reminded of how the skull and crossbones represents Adam/immortality and the tradition is that Adam was buried beneath the true cross (which is also the tree of life). Also isn't the inverted cross representative of St. Peter and the church, the body of Christ on earth?

I just think the double cross symbolism focuses on a wholeness and unity of opposites that I am opposed to. IMO transgender people are not the androgynous glue between man and woman but the uncrossable aporia. Transgender people are precisely the opposite of the androgyne. The androgyne creates gender and transgender people destroy it. Mary Daly completely gets this one wrong in particular.

The thing about theology is that it is focused on the divine when really religion is about man's relation to the divine. If horses prayed then their gods would be shaped like horses and there is nothing wrong with that. Man is full of flaws, fractures and schisms. Man is spiritually empty and uncertain and questioning. Man is a partial thing, unfired and not whole.

The nature of man is to be the withdrawal of the withdrawal. It is in this way that man fulfils his mission as co-creator in the image of God. God made me flawed so that he might permit me to make myself good. The diagnosis of trans existence as mortal and profane is simply the human condition in general.

In general, I am opposed to transhumanism (including the idolatry of trying to make the body sacred).

What you have to understand is that there are four genders: man, woman, priest and whore. Priest being the authority over the feudal order of man and woman, and whore being its capitalist negation. Transhumanism is the priestly project and transgenderism is the whorrifying project.

To be clear, I do not mean a simple subversism. The family is rape as a small-business and pornography is industrial rape. The transgender woman is no more transgressive than the cisgender woman is. Both are ultimately a kind of transgressive whore.

I see the trans mission in terms of compulsory sociality and the construction of an/ecology. An/ecology is the absence of an ecology, the impairment of social relations. The body speaks its own language in its failure to act as the will directs. It's a disability sort of thing like autism or like a tic or stem. I think you might like Melanie Yergeau's "Authoring Autism."

>>4639
Also not sure why you're trying to preach fascism to trans women. It's just odd. Knock it off with the Dugin and Myatt wignat shit. It's kind of hokey but the real left-hand path is hanging out with poor people and minorities and fighting for them like Jesus.

>>4626
Satanic shit

>>4641

said the protestant

>>4641
>>4642
I mean this stuff is literally Satanism TBH.

>>4640
Anyhow it occurred to me after sleeping that the trans woman doesn't just rape all women. The trans woman rapes all priests, she rapes the body of Christ.

So I kind of reject trans separatism on the grounds that it doesn't really challenge the epistemological authority of the priest and the prosexual, prosocial order.

Instead I am interested in constructing an/ecology. A/social ecology is an/ecology. I am interested in the full expression of the failure of the body in the social relation. Would that every man be a prophet.

>>4646

>"everything i don't like it's satanic"

peak protestcuck morality

>>4647
https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/blog/posts/2025-08-29-The-Hidweh-Project-and-Satanism.html
It's literally Satanism 🙄.

I don't really have any problem with Satanism, I just think that it is redundant in the context of Christianity. Christianity is already a left-hand path faith which worships a dead Jew on a stick. I would recommend reading James Cone's "Black Theology." But the mission of Christianity is already one of throwing yourself on the cross. Satanism is just really redundant. Would that every man be a prophet.

>>4648

>dead Jew on a stick

Hey guys Junko is back!

Satanism is something that was forced in the 19th century or however

Okay, I just fed the whole text to chantgpt (who the fuck would read this? It’s too big!)
I like the:
> Thus, transgender people become the “scapegoat of scapegoats” – victims chosen to rally society against a guilt it itself cannot bear.
I would use this
>The author declares that the root of evil is not fanaticism, but "Christian love" itself.
>Its "golden rule" ("do unto others as you would unto yourself") gives rise to ontological violence—the desire to "correct" others for their own good.
> “The normal is God to them.”
Truth
> The author criticizes the politics of representation:
>attempts to achieve recognition only strengthen dependence on the dominant ontology.
>True freedom, according to him, lies in the refusal to be understood.
>If trans people created their own culture, one that didn't require cis-affirmation (like the Amish), their existence would cease to be "dangerous."
I don't think that's possible. The normies will destroy us.
> The author argues that intersectionality is a new liberal universalism: it proclaims "difference" but transforms it into an abstract category, once again erasing the concreteness of bodies.

>Thus, the ideology of "subversivism" is born—a cult of subversion for subversion's sake.

>It creates a dependence on recognition from the "system," turning transgenderism into a decorative form of protest.
>"We don't care about gender or self-expression.
>We care about changing the body."
>The body is the center of meaning, not a symbol.
>True transformation is physical, not cultural.
Is this about the (((libs))) inventing a million genders and creating another reason to hate us?

Didn't read religious nonsense.

As a science ubermensch - half approved

> The author contrasts "subversive liberals" with authentic trans culture—for example, the /tttt/ board on 4chan.
>He believes that real linguistics and a collective spirit are born there,
based not on political slogans, but on the experience of pain, dysphoria, self-remodeling of the body, and survival.
>He sees in this "dirty" culture not cynicism, but a genuine philosophy of the flesh,
capable of generating a new mythology, language, and "ontology of trans existence."
Idk. I am not a coprophile

Probably chatgpt misgender you, sorry

>>4655

rule of thumb when using anything ChatGPT

read it and then redo the whole thing by yourself.

>>4621
Yeah? Well… Transwahmen will always be perceived as dangerous, not the petty kind of dangerous like muh bathroom rapes and stuff. Normie instinct is correct in sensing danger from high autism score gender acceleratonist transwahmen

OP, aren't you that guy who posts on /x/ trying to get people to convert to the "hidweh" faith or some shit like that?

>>4732

I've made peace with my own faith, i encourage everyone to do the same, makes less frustrating exploring any mysticism you may be interested in.

it does help my religion forks from a very wide spiritual ontology that is born from native folk as well as decolonized abrahamic faith.

personally i enjoy eastern spirituality and know where it overlaps with my own and i can embrace it.
God must've had his reason to make me and my unc look towards the east into legalism, taoism and buddhism respectively.

What did you say there?
>>4653
> If trans people created their own culture, one that didn't require cis-affirmation (like the Amish), their existence would cease to be "dangerous."
This is VERY NEEDED.
We are, I dare say, the most oppressed minority group. No one understands us, and many want us dead simply for existing, the scapegoats of the 21st century.
On the other hand, we have gender dysphoria that eats us up from the inside, especially the hons.
And yet, we don't have our own closed community.
>>4886
All we have is either open and shitty (like /tttt/), or moderated (like r/MtF), but also degenerate and life-denying, just with less overt transphobia.
And that's not enough for us; we need to create something like a new Judaism or Freemasonry. Closed, with its own websites, houses (I mean like Jewish communities/synagogues), mutual aid, some people in msm and jurisprudence.

This isn't about fitting into society as a woman or man. We just need to:
1. Eliminate dysphoria (i.e., hormones)
2. Not kill ourselves because of bullying

>>4621
That character looks suspiciously like drill sergeant grey and the background is obviously an edit of the national socialist liberation front, this post is definitely some kind of O9A psyop fail

>>4977

ditto

>>4983
Comic is lowkey transphobic as fuck

>>4984
>>4985

it was made by a trans man so that explains it.

>>4986
Why do transmen despise transwomen so much?

>>4986
>trans men are inherently transphobic
you are part of the issue

>>4988
not inherently, just very often for contingent reasons

>>4989
>>4988
also it's not that they're often transphobic but transmisogynistic

>>4988

i never claimed to be part of the solution either

>>4986
Oh so the left character is supposed to be a trans man?

>>4993

the binder suggest that.

>>4995
I just got confused by what appears to be norwood 3 mullet.

>>4992
you're the solution to where to stick my boner >:3

>>4997
actually fucking grimaced

In my city there was a trans vigil recently and a group of drag performers did drag in the middle of it while like chanting the names of dead trans women like Briannah Ghey. Very cringe but you get called a self-hating transphobe if you say you are not comfortable with this drag stuff.

>>4621
>theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTojZzKi9V8
why do AGPs like Umineko so much? is it like popular with autistic nerds or smth?

>>5243

i don't even know what Umineko is besides the few glimpses i've got by confusing characters from one franchise with another

>>5249

i know

>>5251
ur stinky dudu face

i was thinking of making a new thread or whatever but honestly whatever im going to post it here. due to popular request ive decided to write a basic summary. there are a lot of details missing but i intentionally chose a format to prevent me from writing too much:
https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/zine/aspcte.html

>>4639
>The androgyne creates gender and transgender people destroy it
the double cross is not about gender. mitosis existed before gender was ever a thing. insofar as transgender existence involves the changing of the body, it entails a model of reproduction. this is not one that goes through typical natural channels wherein there is a sexual difference that is (re)united to created a new form. rather, there is a difference which is generated immanently within the form that is then taken back into itself. this however is not a sexual difference as the difference is a virtuality rather than involving actual poles. more information on the double cross may be found here:
https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/doublecross.html
the bit about whoredom is true to an extent but ive tried to avoid thinking in terms of gender categories at all. i also think the conceptualization does not have the same normative force outside of subversivism as it simply frames trans people as peripherous, as excrement. and indeed, to a certain extent most understandings of trans existence structured around cissexual conceptualizations inadvertently achieve as much of an effect.

overall thank you for the post and the effort to read the blogpost, it is appreciated

>>4640
>Also not sure why you're trying to preach fascism to trans women
making use of fascist thinkers does not mean i am trying to preach fascism per se. there are plenty of marxist and other grains of leftist intellectuals that have tried to find use in such thinkers as heidegger and schmitt. myatt in particular takes some interesting steps towards combining heideggerianism with the occult. i also like his vitalist mysticism as well which is not really something to be found in other occult traditions that tend to gravitate to idealist or spiritualist schemas. see this blogpost for more information:
https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/blog/posts/2025-08-27-How-to-Think-Organically.html
>It's kind of hokey but the real left-hand path is hanging out with poor people and minorities and fighting for them like Jesus
i am not really sure if i would classify myself as following "lhp" per se. it only really corresponds to the lion on the double cross. the effective import of it is of course the transgressive elements, but here transgression is not an ethical dictum, but rather something that should be taken as an object towards further ends. transgression is essential for my project because the body maintains its form through homeostatic mechanisms that must be disrupted in order to effect change and see the layers of reality which the brain is designed to filter.

i guess there is an ethical side as well to my interest, but here transgression is not meant to be taken as an object to realize but a form to have hang over oneself. what is important is not the actual fact of violence, but rather the principle of violence. it is the understanding of the heaviness of being, of the fragility of one's thrown existence, and hence going forth into the world without the delusions of "human rights" or "morality" being there to save you. i do not care for simply "being like jesus" because i do not live with the optimistic assumption that God is on my side (as even many atheists seem to do). if i am to effect change in the world, it must be something capable of reproducing itself, otherwise it is mere masturbatory caprice and pity. beyond that a dictum to help the wretched feels like a rather unsatisfactory spiritual cliche. it often doesn't encourage you to actually look beyond yourself, beyond your humanity and naive moralistic outlook of how the world should be

here is a great article that really gets into what the "sinister" side of things is really about:
https://sinistertradition.substack.com/p/suffering-the-great-teacher
here is a perspective that i find very unique and you dont really find in other spiritual traditions. a lot of them feel at their base hedonistic, upon escaping the suffering of oneself or others. very view people are actually interested in living. and that is of course the problem. gender dysphoria is suffering, transition is suffering but it is also a suffering that has been transmuted into life. look around at all the trans people that still feel dysphoric after transitioning, the ones that still feel somehow that what they have done is not enough. this article by andrea long chu i feel really hit at something regarding this: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/24/opinion/sunday/vaginoplasty-transgender-medicine.html .. unfortunately when you look at most people's replies, they are mad because they are concerned that her message potentially detracts from supporting trans identity or legitimizing trans people as a valid medical category. but that is of course the issue. they are so concerned for all of this crap that they have forgotten that they suffer and they continue to suffer, that their path is one of hardship, that the only way out is through. one of the satanic points states "[…] die rather than submit", is that not how we live? many of us would rather kill ourselves than be fine living day to day not progressing on that project of ours which needs to be done

i felt the need to rant like this because underneath some of the posts i see, there is this failure to recognize that ultimately life is suffering. instead of confronting that fact, there is the reaction to surface forms. this is while i have not made any attempt to veil anything

>>4646
>it doesn't really challenge the epistemological authority of the priest and the prosexual, prosocial order
you talk like this is all just an intellectual exercise and there aren't real stakes at play here

>>4648
in that blogpost i say that i am not a satanist

>>4732
yes

>>4894
>And that's not enough for us; we need to create something like a new Judaism or Freemasonry. Closed, with its own websites, houses (I mean like Jewish communities/synagogues), mutual aid, some people in msm and jurisprudence.
you get it nona

>>4977
>looks suspiciously like drill sergeant grey
i genuinely have no idea where you got that from. the schizo theorizing is completely unnecessary because i am very much explicit about the influences i take from o9a and why. for the record i dont even really like tempel ov blood stuff. obviously it's fedded, but it just feels like it is trying too hard. i prefer the stuff written on acausality, aeonics, empathy, the numinous, and honour. the sinister aspects that are interesting to me are very specific

>>4983
i am not white and i posted on leftypol before i drew much influence from myatt at all

>>4653
the summary is sort of off on points though it does make me realize there were some captivating framings that were too difficult to fit into the small zine format i chose. oh well

>>6644
>very view people
*very few people

>>6644

i already told you if you want to be edgy there's like a million more vague and meaningful aesthetics that overlap with right wing populism or whatever you're trying to do than just taking shit from neonazi satanists just because they got outed as gender non-conforming 8 years ago, even if you were friends with them doesn't mean you have to keep pandering to them in any way or shape; i might be just projecting but in the case i'm not it's probably better to put it bluntly like that, they were and probably still are neopagan retards and have nothing worthwhile to say. being edgy for the sake of being edgy serves little to no purpose.

I agree with Sabinyak. Your fascination with death for its own sake lacks none of the barbarism of your fascoid forebears. I'd much rather stick to my own ecletic mix of eastern meditation techniques, western occult traditions and modern witchcraft.

>>6644
Are you schizophrenic? It's just that your text is difficult to read.
> "[…] die rather than submit"
Oxymoron. Death means losing to the god(s) and their russian saboteurs.
You will subsequently be reborn(?) in an even more enslaved world.

>>6648
>i might be just projecting
you are. my interest in them has only a passing relation to them being more pro lgbt than many other spiritualities (though this is true as well) and i was not friends with any niners or nazis either. ive been very explicit in my influences and why:
https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/blog/posts/2025-08-27-How-to-Think-Organically.html
https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/blog/posts/2025-08-29-The-Hidweh-Project-and-Satanism.html
https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/phil/redocean.pdf
if i was just interested in neo-paganism, i would just pick that or become a niner outright, but that is not what i am doing

>>6649
>Your fascination with death for its own sake
not what i am saying at all
<[regarding practice] here transgression is not an ethical dictum, but rather something that should be taken as an object towards further ends
<[regarding ethics] here transgression is not meant to be taken as an object to realize but a form to have hang over oneself. what is important is not the actual fact of violence, but rather the principle of violence
this latter understanding of violence is something anyone that has any shred of revolutionary spirit should understand. indeed, it has been something that has been consistently grasped at by anarchists. we live in an age where we have forgotten the raining blood of the french revolution, where we are always forgetting the violence of the state. in forgetting, we overlay a moralistic lens over the workings of the world rather than a properly materialist or "aeonic" one

this not to mention that all of this is only a part of the overall project. i have also taken from the traditions you've mentioned as well. if anything my day to day practice draws more from those other traditions while they are reconfigured within a larger vitalist framework

>>6651
i am not a schizophrenic and losing still does not mean voluntary submission (unless it is a losing by said submission)

btw i need to stress that we have our own
<rituals !!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e7oYlrg1ne_eBME3fYbi-SfvFRqq_pZp/view
<language !!
https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/lyydh.html
<philosophy !!
https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/32fd.html
https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/phil.html
<myths & cosmology !!
https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/myth.html
https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/recite/solusartus.html

we are not just satanists. there is a lot of work to be done by us because there is recognition that no hitherto existing occult tradition is sufficient for our ends, and their failings are to be learned from rather than blindly repeated

>>6660 (You)
<ive been very explicit in my influences and why
adding on, one thing that was important for me when taking influences from different traditions, was to the extent they understood the universe as an evolving undivided wholeness. the "acausal" read properly is akin to david bohm's implicate order, whilst the "causal" is akin to the explicate order. and something core which these guys want to do is to leave causal abstractions behind, and experientially realize an understanding of the implicate, undivided whole of reality

buddhism is sort of close with dependent origination and indra's net, but it has a tendency of trying to "fragment" reality in practice. it also has somewhat life denying elements (they also miss some heideggerian insights at times with respect to the manifold mode of manifestation wrt situated subjectivity). still i take influence from them

something like advaita vedanta sort of talks about a "wholeness", but the atman is more an undifferentiated substance rather than an undivided totality. everything is made to be about "mind", but for me this is a mistake because our own mindedness is really an abstraction out of the overarching undivided evolution of reality

there are themes of the microcosm being a reflection of the macrocosm in reflection, but rarely does this thought get taken to final its dialectical conclusion. rather it often gets used as a means for just understanding the validity of particular causal abstractions, such as the influences of planets and other such cosmic phenomena

so you can see how the myatt is simply closest to my cosmological outlook of the world which, through bohm, is very much in proximity to dialectical materialism as well

Good shit. Keep fighting for the Indie Web. This is its essence

>>4621

can we keep the 09A recruitment adds to a minimum on the board?

>>6660
>my day to day practice draws more from those other traditions while they are reconfigured within a larger vitalist framework
Why then do you spend so much time focusing on minutiae of the flesh, when the mind and spirit allow you to work at a much higher level and are also more relevant to most peoples needs? Isn't the aim of these breathing techniques and energy rituals in the first place for the body to be made a receptacle?

>>6674
im trans so the transformation of the flesh is much more directly relevant to me and other trans people

but also i believe there is a deeper dialectical relationship between mind and body. in some ways, the body is an expression of mind insofar as the body incarnates a particular ideality within it as morphology. at the same time, the body is also the interface through which we interact with the world. its conditions can effect our evaluations and our sensuous activity can shape our conceptualizations. hence mind is an expression of body and body is an expression of mind. most spiritualities have a tendency to simply subordinate the body and the material. i reject this.

i see in various thinkers and scientists such as lysenko, michael levin, jj gibson, bergson, goethe, etc attempts at groping at this reality. however, i have not seen anyone yet quite try and make all of this into a coherent spiritual tradition ..

i could go into more detail about how some of my spiritual influences go into all of this in terms of practice but i dont want to seem like too much of a shill

>>6666
check em also the hidweh project is not a nexion. im open to people that are more interested in other spiritual traditions joining and contributing their own perspective and maybe offshoot collections of practices to the overall tradition

btw you can check out this zine to get a better idea of what we are about
https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/zine/lithp.html

>>6665
<3

>>6678
>im trans so the transformation of the flesh is much more directly relevant to me and other trans people
I take more issue with your means. Why focus on individual body parts, when spirit is perfectly capable of translating all of the vagaries of desire into action?

Your view of unity as the night wherein all cats are black seems reductionist as well, when as a dialectician, you should know better than to flatten all of the ideographic tradition, which came before you. From an external view, i think your practice lacks analytic forms and emotional resonance.

>>6678
Are you a Jew?

>>6660

>my interest in them has only a passing relation to them being more pro lgbt than many other spiritualities

yeah you'd think that after they got outed in 2019 along every other wignat group by b00t

this doens't make them actively "pro-lgbt"
it just forced them to accept their leaders were faggots or dissolve like the atomlarpers did

>>6666

i agree with the GET
even in my edgiest times i don't just switch religions to fit my preferences half psychotic-episode because that's not how you're meant to experience spirituality.

>>6681

why do americans see branches of their own neopagan protestant cults and think "is this a jew?"

not even going to blame OP for falling into neopaganism, that's basically the core identity of protestanism as any faith under American rule.

>>6682
t. Mexirussian saboteur

>>6683

ion mind

>>6679
>I take more issue with your means
what do you think my means are vs what means do you think could be incorporated?
>when spirit is perfectly capable of translating all of the vagaries of desire into action
while "will" is important, i think empathy is also important as well. by this, i do not simply mean feeling others pain, but rather the capacity to enter into the rhythm of another organism or an organic system. i feel like a lot of the western occult is more focused on trying to strengthen the will and remove undesirable influences than it is cultivating a deeper closeness with one's situated reality
>Your view of unity as the night wherein all cats are black seems reductionist
that is their conceptualization of what it consists in and this effects (and is partly resultant from) their practice. there is a reason for instance why vipassana is much more central for buddhists than it is for vedantists. there are different physiological variables that vary with different forms of meditation and this can lead to different phenomenology. similar with the microcosm-macrocosm conceptualization, it is often tied with complicated and rigid semiotic systems that get utilized in ritual..

i mean to begin with many of these traditions are just not interested in biokinesis in general. what is the merit then in adopting all these cosmological schemas when they are just going towards purposes and goals that are sort of besides the point for me? i feel like if you go to many occultists and tell them about my goals they would think that it simply isn't feasible. that is an effect of their paradigm. admittedly a vedantist in their pure idealism might be less inclined to say this, but their methods of spiritual cultivation are not actually geared towards changing the world in any way

>>6682
>yeah you'd think that after they got outed in 2019 along every other wignat group by b00t
lol no. the o9a has been arguably pro-lgbt since at least the 80s! here is an excerpt from naos:
<Because of the doubling of the female, Sapphic working (sometimes called Sapphistry) is powerful magick. Both participants may combine in the visualization and/or rhythmic breathing of the chosen phrase - the fire is aroused mutually by caress and tongue (locis muliebribus) one ecstasy following the other (mutual ecstasy - though rare unless cultivated by technique - is very powerful magickally). If desired, the proceedure can be repeated for as many times as the participants desire. The working is concluded in the usual manner.
<Uranian working may be undertaken as I above with the obvious emendations or one participant may elect to raise the fire of the other via his lips. The visualization and/or chanting of the chosen phrase should follow the pattern in section I. The working is concluded in the usual manner.
they had absolutely no reason to add this stuff but they did, though honestly it isn't that strange since being against homosexuality is an abrahamic thing to begin with

there has also been plenty of trans people interested in this stuff both before and after b00t was a thing. also b00t was more associated with atomwaffen. these are not the same groups and im not interested in those other guys at all

>even in my edgiest times i don't just switch religions to fit my preferences half psychotic-episode
again this stuff genuinely fits my metaphysical views more than other spiritual systems. you are acting like it is just an edgy phase i decided to enter one day rather than me picking spiritual influences based off of similarity in concepts and focus? "influences" is another keyword because i am not a niner. im mostly just taking the ideas that seem the most resonant to me

>>6681
nu though some of my theology sort of converges on sabbateanism in a way

>>6689
> nu though some of my theology sort of converges on sabbateanism in a way
I hope you replace this with something more human.

>>6689

that's the thing, you can't just pick and choose what you like from each religion.
even with my interest in buddhism/Taoism and my desire to include it in my Santeria i recognize it's not really my birth faith, thus reconciling with my birth faith was in order for me to fully try and understand the hermeneutics of other faiths otherwise my mind would be clouded, and the teachings of these religions would go past me as i just pick and choose which teachings i desire.
which it's exactly the opposite of what a teaching is about.

you can't just jump in and change the doctrine if you don't understand the basics to begin with and the more advanced part of the doctrine, which takes a level of compromise to understand; and not every doctrine is or has to be compatible with each other.

>>6689
>what is the merit then in adopting all these cosmological schemas when they are just going towards purposes and goals that are sort of besides the point for me?
I feel like going ahead with your practice would leave several vital questions unanswered.
>the relation of yourself to others
>the relation of yourself to the absolute
>the relation of yourself to your environment, nature, deieties and other latent energies
>the relation of these latent energies to the absolute
By defining a cosmology and litigating the means by which change is effected, you also insure yourself against undesired outcomes. I don't presume your goddess and satanic influences are simple substitutions for judeo-theistic angels, so what use is biokinesis, if you fail to take the proper precautions and leave with a negative influence hanging over you?

>>6689
>what do you think my means are vs what means do you think could be incorporated?
I've recently started experimenting with incorporating sigil magic other spells; making a sigil to symbolize something and then use it as a more powerful representation in later rituals. I guess tactile sensations and clear intent would be far more conducive to dealing with the body than any intermediary, but what if you introduced an additional aspect to guide the energy or oriented your schedule in some way? Just further insurance the energy is directed according to your will.

>>6694
After reading through some more of your site, i think i get it now. It seems your group activities are your main way of maintaining focus, which is a communal, dare i say apostolic, approach i personally don't relate to. Not to blogpost, but my parents were never overtly religious, i've only ever been to one confession, each communion i had just made me anxious and masses do in general. Have fun on your discord!

>>6693
>you can't just jump in and change the doctrine
i have my own doctrine that i am trying to develop and follow which i developed after years of reading and thinking about philosophy. the occult stuff is me trying to make that philosophy spiritually practical. like even if im somehow interpreting all of these doctrines incorrectly, i am really not inclined to mourn such an event (hell, at times ill intentionally pervert certain notions in the same way deleuze would to various philosophers) because im not trying to be a buddhist, a christian, a vedantist, a niner, etc. my practice has its own centre of gravity. also btw my birth faith is christianity and i never just rejected it because christians hate gay and trans people or whatever. on the contrary, ive read about various forms of christian theology, gnosticism, hegel, tolstoy's gospel in brief, the process church etc. christianity has also been incorporated into the project in different ways. for instance, the double cross. there is also the fact that i see hidweh as a non-antinomian inversion of christ's essence. while jesus was the logos made flesh, she is the flesh made logos. actually ive referenced christinity and judaism explicitly in more mythological/esoteric writings than any other religion. there are others who worship the same goddess that i do who, in isolation, have a very different far less abrahamic language for approaching these things ..

i will admit that i do get a little too cautious when looking into certain traditions like the golden dawn because i dont want to install too much abrahamoid influence or whatever. maybe that is something i can work on

>and not every doctrine is or has to be compatible with each other
ive never claimed such a thing. i am not a new ager saying that every faith is all pointing to the same truth. certainly i dont believe the hidweh project is just pointing to the same thing everyone else is. there are a few people i might be inclined to see as "fellow travelers" (to an extent) but that is about it. i mean needless to say if i believed stuff was all really compatible there would be no reason to look into satanism at all beyond edginess

>>6694
this true and you do make a good point. through trial and error there is a vague map of problems to avoid and certain rituals or physical practices to counteract. there are a few schemas but it is not super systematic enough to incorporate all of these things.

honestly i was thinking of just having a separate spiritual practice in order to deal more with certain deficiencies in terms of personality. im not sure if some themes can really be incorporated into the project or to what extent that would even be a desirable thing to do. wilhelm reich's ideas on pulsations and stuff + some shamatha practice from buddhism could easily be incorporated (and these practices seem to have been pretty effective for me). though there are still some elements there that are still missing like dealing with archetypes. ive noticed that there also can be a somatic dimension to these archetypes as well, like i can feel myself taking a particular "position" within a situation at times. idk if this is something worth turning into a symbolic scheme like tarot or whatever yet

i might be fine with developing a larger cosmology but i feel like it should be something that slowly emerges yk

>>6695
oh yeah ive thought about designing like fu lu talismans and stuff in lyydhngoq actually. at the very least it would look cool. also you hit the nail on the head regarding why my practice tends to be more tactile centric. honestly, even stuff like "visualize a light within your body" just feels unintuitive to me and intuition is really important. still i doubt intuition could be very useful for trying to do more subtler stuff like changing genes or skin and hair colour (though maybe i just haven't progressed far enough … who knows really lol).

>oriented your schedule in some way
wdym?

>>6697
ya ideally i want more people to actually participate and contribute! i would rather not impose an authoritarian structure to things as that would be very lonely
>Have fun on your discord!
thxx

>>6731
>wdym?
Doesn't your website already mention the moon phases?
>stuff like "visualize a light within your body" just feels unintuitive to me
Buddhist meditation is an abyss. My first spell was a satanic cleansing ritual, based on some golden dawn practices, where the author suggested a "sphere of light" as a possible alternative to traditional elemental catalysts. This meditation by itself works great for cleansing or opening the heart, but what i realized from reading a modern gnostic treatise, is that you can concentrate the light into an infinitesimally small ray. This burning of the spirit has helped me shake off some very powerful influences before and i think it reflects the stirnerite paradox, that the only way towards true altruism is selfishness, in that black burns hotter than white and that the LHP is the only path towards true, conscious compassion.

>>6731

there's just no getting through you huh?

well can't said i didn't warn you.