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Thoughts on this discourse currently raging on xitter? Personally I don't really like either, but I don't understand how rejecting ballroom / drag terms is racist. It feels very american to say that when in my country drag is mostly a gay male thing and the closest thing to ballroom is only white people.

trans ppl are slowly realizing that noone else on the left actually has their best interest in mind. while the trump administration is making motions towards sending us to camps, intersectionalists are upset at us for not integrating ourselves into a larger movement that has ultimately been a failure and have repeatedly wokescolded us for being too "problematic" or "heteronormative". a core issue is that they are mostly moralists who have no material skin in the game allowing them to pretend trump is simply an aberration. hence they see everyone as just needing to voot better next time and calling it a day. ive been seeing more black transfems pop up too who still buy the hyperwoke stuff perhaps because white transfems dont pay any attention to their issues. ultimately we need trans racial unity and a new renaissance in transhumanist culture

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I agree with this take.

was never a fan of ballroom culture to a degree, something about emulating bourgeois rituals for comfort is… so gringo.

Well the two accounts in the OP pic are either bots or sockpuppets
>>7586
Yeah, even wikitionary doesn't say where it came from.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fish#English

>>7578
trans are always trying to take credit for gay innovations and gay rebellion

"the first brick thrown at stonewall was by a transwoman" lib nonsense
just constantly rewriting history to center it on transness.

>>7595
The observations in this threads aren't value judgments. They're simple recognitions of the fact, that the interests of most trans people are anathema to the current liberal project. The same holds for bourgeois sexual, feminist and racialist politics in the abstract, yet it is the trans issue that is presently coming to a head.

>>7596

Maybe the trans community would get more support from the rest of the LGBTQIAA2S+ community if they stopped taking credit for the other letters' innovations, style, and resistance.

>>7578
It's a notherburger, lucid dream, go outside, and permablitz.

>>7583
This

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>>7578
Is this what the goyim talk about all fucking day?

>>7595
>>7597
why are gay men so reactionary
do we need to bring up nambla and all that stuff again?

>>7798
Because they're still men.

I am an european faggot, what the fuck is ballroom and why the fuck should I care about it on the internet

>>7801
>I am an european faggot
That's offensive! How dare you say European!

>>7578
>Thoughts on this discourse currently raging on xitter
no, fuck off AI engagement bots
>transmisogynoirist erasing fish
yall need Jesus or Loki or whatever

>>7586
>70 year old historical slang
"Always Historicize" - Fredric Jameson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_culture
>found their communities online
Marxism 101:
<"It is the material conditions of alienation from capitalist class society that form the social relations of our consciousness, our consciousness does not determine our material conditions"
You cannot simply forget ballroom culture because its the culture that automatically forms as it floats above the material base of of people who are struggling to build an IRL community. Neoliberal consumer marketplaces might form little trans niches with their algorithmic market segregation, but that's just virtual Metaverse slop.
The music video for the song "Love Shack" literally has RuPaul in it because he was MATERIALLY present in the REAL WORLD:
<"It was an African-American club that had a lot of good shows. It looked like a shack, you wouldn't expect it to be what it was, and when you opened the door, it was a wild band playing."The video features a cameo from a pre-fame RuPaul in his first mainstream appearance. Pierson later recalled, "we invited all our friends and had a party. … We started out really early in the morning and it turned into this rave. RuPaul got the dance line going, and it almost felt like we weren't being videotaped." Guitarist Keith Strickland stated that the dance line scene was an homage to the television show Soul Train, and that RuPaul stepped in to direct the scene when Bernstein "didn't get the process". Kate Pierson stated that it was "kind of like the juke joint in The Color Purple", and that the band would hang out there with a large "bohemian" group of friends. Cindy Wilson added, "It used to be this funky building with a tin roof that was old and rusty. They would have Soul Train [dance] lines."
<The video features a cameo from a pre-fame RuPaul in his first mainstream appearance. Pierson later recalled, "we invited all our friends and had a party. … We started out really early in the morning and it turned into this rave. RuPaul got the dance line going, and it almost felt like we weren't being videotaped." Guitarist Keith Strickland stated that the dance line scene was an homage to the television show Soul Train, and that RuPaul stepped in to direct the scene when Bernstein "didn't get the process".

>>7803
listen, in my culture™ we used to take pretty boys to the forest and fuck them in beautiful outdoors, like men are supposed to

>>7798
Nambla was Trotskyist lol.

why are people arguing about terminology like this at a time where trans people are actively losing basic legal rights and incinerators are being built in the concentration camps

genuinely tf is wrong with you

Sorry maybe I should not have taken twitter slop drama to this board, I infected it with twitter hitler particles.

the US is advancing their policy of extermination via medical experimentation on their transgender prisoners (which does and will include anyone on mones who's caught up in anti fascist actions)

is now the time?


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