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Not reporting is bourgeois


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I don't attend pride (and usually protest it) because the police take part. But is it fundementally a bourgeois event? I mean, it was not founded by the bourgeois, just co-opted by them. It is just like any other folk festival.

But in the end it is impossible to defend it and say it is not bourgeois. It is clear whenever you attend that it does not represent all queer people. It represents the petit-bourgeois, financially secure gays and lesbians, and old trans people. The very essense of pride has become firmly bourgeois. I probably would not go even without my political objections to it, because I can't really relate to that kind of display.

Of course, this was not by accident. I highly recommend K. Murali's book 'Of Concepts and Methods', in which some of the essays / chapters go into detail on identity politics. The fact is, every single non-class based movement will eventually be co-opted into capitalism. This is because capitalism is the perfect class system. All it needs is capitalist and proletarian, it does not need any of the small classes and sects previous systems did. They didn't need to persecute gays, so they stopped doing so.

This is precisely why the communists should organize with these social minority groups. If we do not organize them, the bourgeois will integrate them. We need to get to them first and prove we can be the ones who solve their issues, not the class enemy. The Communist party needs to be the one leading the opressed social groups against the capitalists. If an active part is not taken to mobilize them, we are squandering resources. This will take the form of a democratic front. Identity politics? Well, certainly the democratic front will be organized around identity politics, and that's the whole point. This is the way of organizing marginalized groups whilst keeping the party, and class struggle, central.

Therefore, we need to set up an anti-pride, a communist party front group pride.

Don't be anti-pride just take pride back.
Kick out the corpos and cops. Make pride a riot again.

>>30
This. The parade is a blatant bourgoise attempt to co-opt pride.

>>9
Pride is ok, the parades are just bourgie hedonistic festivals like carnavals are for heteros

>>9
>Therefore, we need to set up an anti-pride, a communist party front group pride.
Agreed completely, I frequently attend the aforementioned events and distribute reading material and try to start conversations with people about progressive labor reform and I'd encourage everyone itt to do the same.

They made it illegal where I live therefore I will attend it for the first time in my life.

>>777
hungary? what is going to happen if you attend

>>9
>is it fundementally a bourgeois event
Yes. Bourgeoise doesn't mean "bad thing". There's a reason there's no pride at rural villages. It's a city, modern, cosmopolitan thing.

The rest of your post is kind of OK but mostly anarchist shit. We need better analysis here.

>>784
I disagree with the implication that urban = bourgeois, as if the contemporary rural village isn't defined by capitalist relations of production as much if not more so than the city.
If you want to define the bourgeoisie as urban and cosmopolitan, then the proletariat must be doubly so as it too was born in the city.

The reason there's not pride in rural villages is simply a question of scale and population size, trying to assign it some metaphysical class significance is hardly materialist.

>>9
like most anti-capitalist/anti-status quo movements, it is eventually integrated by the bourgeoisie into supporting what it should be going against. Pride parades support the bourgeois status quo, therefore we should oppose pride parades while allying with queer groups.

>>784
How is that anarchist? Democratic fronts are not new concepts, it is an ML thing.

>>781
Yes. Probably nothing.

>>9 Pride, revolutionary, identity politics, lib bourgeois.

Whatever benefit identity politics as a blanket term may have had in the past it has been ruined by the last decade of lib cringe in mainstream media.

smth smth It's dialectical.

ok in seriousness, the way that idpol has been carried out as so far, is bourgeois, it is a liberal Thing. Of course, liberals aren't wrong about *everything*, LGBTQ+ people need their rights. But the liberal way of carrying it out is shit. The protection of the LGBTQ legally (this goes for all marginalized groups) kind of pre-supposes the oppression of said group. My general philosophy is that the emancipation of all oppressed groups cannot happen until the workers are emancipated


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