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 No.17061[Last 50 Posts]

This is a thread to discuss the moderation of this website. Jannies can move it to /meta/, if it belongs there.

what do we do to curb behaviour in pic related?

 No.17062

We're in a pretty sad state atm. I wish it would change.

 No.17063

Posting before the thread gets deleted

 No.17064


 No.17065

>>17064
yes, I was banned for a response to janny

 No.17066

>>17065
No you were samefagging

 No.17067

>>17065
Also why didn't you screenshot the post you were replying to?

 No.17068

>>17066
that is an appeal dialog that the janny sees. so that is moody seeing his own (You).

 No.17069

>>17067
it's the trucker thread, it's still on the catalog. you can go see the posts for yourself.

 No.17070

>>17068
Oh I see
But why didn't you screenshot the post you were replying to?

 No.17071

>>17069
I asked why you didn't include it

 No.17072

>>17070
>>17071
I didn't think it was relevant. The exact topic doesn't matter, the point is that jannies can't be in a thread as anons and then delete the posts they don't like. what rule does that post break? I was banned for "false pretenses", whatever that means.

 No.17073

>>17072
it's clear the janny got sick of someone disagreeing with them and decided to ban the person and delete their posts. it was an emotional decision.(samefagging btw)

 No.17074

>>17072
>the mod who banned me's post is irrelevant
okay

 No.17075

>>17073
then why not show it

 No.17076

>>17074
Here's the post: >>747917
>>747909 (You)
>most of the money (62%) that was crowdsourced came from the US
you are telling on yourself uyghur
Of course American glowies wanted this as well.

that (You) is mine, so I was having a conversation with a janny until he got triggered and then banned me.

 No.17077


 No.17078

>>17076
Looks like you're mad cus you can't provide anything beyond a couple sentences of contrarian b8, something that every leftypol denizen is happy is being cleaned up.

 No.17079

>>17078
>you're wrong
>and even if you're right, you deserved it
how do boots taste, I've always wondered? do you want an echo chamber? should we just agree with one another all the time?

 No.17080

>>17078
>expressing a different opinion is contrarian b8
the absolute state of this website

 No.17081

>b8
<this has been explained in the thread a million times
>b8
<ban
>noooooo
Did I sum it up well? I'm not good at reading schizo collages.

 No.17082

>>17079
nah the topic is a nothingburger anyways I don't really care,nor do I care for a single ban
I've been banned for retarded shit and I'm not complaining, because vpns and Tor exists

 No.17083

>>17081
I was the one who posted the news article about Trudeau invoking the Emergencies Act. The first post in the image is the post right under the news article. I started that conversation thread, so how could it have been explained a million times? How could we have talked about Trudeau invoking the act when he hadn't invoked it yet? moron

 No.17084

>>17083
what does the post that you were banned for have anything to do with what you just said?

 No.17085

>>17082
the point isn't the ban, but the principle of the matter. if you're a janny, and you want to participate in a discussion as an anon, you shouldn't then use your mod powers to silence those you disagree with once the thread/conversation doesn't go your way. I was in the middle of a discussion with a janny, when all of a sudden he decided he doesn't want to talk about it any more and just deleted my last response and banned me.

 No.17086

>>17072
I banned you because I thought you were raiding from another site as I explained to you in the chat and you agreed. You were on an IP range commonly used for spam and were essentially echoing what miamifag, a ban evading spammer, was saying at the same time he was posting in that thread. With the post I banned you for specifically I thought you were calling people fascists for disagreeing with you. I cleared this up with you in the chat, heard all of your concerns, and apologized twice, and I had already unbanned you. You asked if it was me talking to you and I said no, and then you mentioned your post and then I told you yes I had replied to that one specifically to be exact. Then you came back in 10 minutes with a schizo infographic where you just highlight "(you)" that you spammed everwhere and claimed that is evidence that I banned you for disagreeing with you.

 No.17087

>>>753951
>either these protestors are petit-boug fascists who want to take down the government OR they're dumb Facebook boomer yokels who got roped into it by CIA […] both because saying your enemy is at the same time dangerous and incompetent is a fascist talking point.
How is there any conflict between those things? Petty bourg fascists and idiot yokels manipulated by the feds is perfectly compatible.

Also this is a strange way to be arguing about the topic considering the government can do worrying (to us) overreach against people who are our enemies. The truckers don't have to be defensible at all for Trudeau's policies to be concerning to us.

This whole thing looks like you can't have an argument without resorting to weird bait. And it's bait because you're defending a group of people who are obviously against us in the class struggle. Saying that people having multiple (according to you) incompatible characterizations of these people (as if it's a perfectly homogeneous group lol) is "a fascist talking point" is further bait. IDK what the false pretenses rule means in this context. Your ban reason should have been baitposting.

 No.17088

>>17085
idk I think anybody strawmanning should be shot and thrown into the tiber

 No.17089

>>17086
you literally did. even in your appeal screenshot the post says (You), so you were one of the people I was talking to from the beginning. you were invested in the conversation, you had no right to moderate it. how does this simple fact escape you I don't understand.

 No.17090

>>17072
They're Jannie's. They can do what they want because they have power. Should have thought of this instead of all moving wholesale here post-split. Cope.

 No.17091

I'm more interested in why the fuck m00dy is obfuscating with multiple mod accs ('wow' being an alt). Is it because they've fucked up so much lately that they are attempting damage control?
Step down. Same with the permanent furfag who pushes porn and liberalism. We've never had worse mods. At least before there was a good chance of them being principled communists making the decisions.

Also I recently found out that matrix (New Vector Inc.) is a fucking for-profit venture capital offshoot of a literal glowie corp. Both of the main people behind it previously worked for Amdocs, which is an Israeli company with Big Tech / MIC / telecom surveillance ties. https://www.hackea.org/notas/matrix.html The mods/admins also keep blowing off concerns about leftypol being hosted in the US (which, in addition to being literally the black hole of world imperialism, has gag order laws, which would prevent us from knowing if the server gets seized, even if you were to trust this group of literal IDpol pushing radlib narcissist coomers).
Use XMPP+OMEMO instead. Host in Eastern Europe, LatAm, Vietnam, etc.

 No.17092

>>17089
>if you post in a thread you have to leave it unmoderated

 No.17093

>>17091
>I'm more interested in why the fuck m00dy is obfuscating with multiple mod accs
What do you mean with this?

 No.17094

>>17089
Who do you think will moderate it otherwise?
Mods have to read threads to moderate them. It's only natural mods will be better at moderating threads they actively participate in since that requires reading.

 No.17095

>>17092
checked
no, delete nazi shit, of course. but banning me for "false pretenses" was a bullshit excuse, cause I was consistent with my argumentation and opinion. You accuse me of raiding
>look at this guy expressing his opinion, responding to anons and having a conversation
>RAIDING

 No.17096

>>17093
First without refutation in a mod thread on /meta/ >>>/meta/16609 , then I'm seeing the OP screenshot which seems to confirm this again through other means.

 No.17097

>>17095
The mod already mod posted about unbanning you and allegedly apologized twice.

What the fuck more do you want?

 No.17098

>>17094
moderating doesn't mean "removing posts I don't like" or "enforcing a single viewpoint".

 No.17099

>>17095
This whole thing is the identical MO of leftychan trying to manufacture controversy post-split, right down to the style of the screenshots. Seems like false pretenses to me, but the ban was reversed was it not? Your insistence on making a spectacle out of it now speaks further to false pretenses.

But how about this: what is it you want exactly? Because right now all you're doing it continuing to keep this thread bumped talking shit. So you don't like the mods. Ok, and? What are you trying to accomplish exactly?

 No.17100

>>17097
He wants to speak with the manager

 No.17101

>>17093
Nothing. I have never implied it is a different account. It is just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks and nipping at my heels as mod, because I am a mod.

 No.17102

>>17097
I wanted public discussion of mod actions. First time I posted the image, it was in /meta/. Then moody removed it from /meta/. That annoyed me because it was a meta thread, about his actions, and that's what meta is for.

 No.17103

>>17099
Same. I don't get the point.
The mod explained their reasoning, unbanned, and apologized (three times if you count the one here). What next? What's the point of this?

 No.17104

>>17099
mod removing meta discussion about himself from /meta/ is ok in your opinion?

 No.17105

>>17099
Yeah and look most people don't give a shit either way and if anything it discredits anyone pointing out if the mods actually do anything bad or incorrect. You can't go around spamming the board and matrix just because you claim to be a voice of dissent.

 No.17106

>>17103
pretty sure it's jsut
>NOOOOOO THE APPEAL SYSTEM CAN'T WORK
>I HAVE TO MANUFACTURE CONTROVERSY SO I CAN PRETEND THIS SITE IS A SHITHOLE AND DRIVE TRAFFIC TO THE ALTERNATIVE SITE GLOWCORD SERVER

 No.17107

>>17103
I'll write it again:
1) the problem isn't the ban itself, the problem is that the ban is for disagreeing with a janny in a thread.
2) when I made a complaint thread in /meta/, it was removed immediately by the very mod the post was about.

 No.17108

>>17102
>First time I posted the image, it was in /meta/
But what is this "EXPOSED" tabloid image for?
Did you post the image after the mod explained their reasoning, apologized, and unbanned you, or did you post it after that. I can see why your post would be deleted because as the other anon says, you just seem to want to stir some drama up, unsuccessfully so far.

 No.17109

>>17099
>>17103
I want to speak with the CEO of /leftypol/ and talk about the misbehaviour of his employees.
I will not stop until I see moody fired. If the CEO will not comply I will take this case to court.

 No.17110

>>17104
No, but that's been addressed. Again, what is it you want? If you don't have an answer then it's clear you're just trying to stir shit up.

 No.17111

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Show me on the doll where m00dy touched you OP.

 No.17112

>>17108
I made the image when I realised that the person I was disagreeing in the thread was a janny. I actually accepted the apology and everything was fine. But then moody was like "oh no wait that was me in the thread". Yes, talking to people in a thread and then banning them and deleting the posts when the conversation doesn't go your way is wrong to do.

This is the only time there's proof of it, who knows how many times it happens. How many people don't bother creating a matrix account to complain?

 No.17113

>>17061
>what do we do to curb behaviour in pic related?
You take the covid vaccine

 No.17114

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>>17109
karen-sama I kveel

 No.17115

>>17110
I wanted to have this conversation, publicly, in meta. Literally what I've been asking this whole time. A SINGLE THREAD IN META.(oh wait this is leftypol?)

 No.17116

>>17109
Kek.
>>17112
As I mentioned before, do you acknowledge that mods need to read threads in order to moderate them? Do you acknowledge that they are more likely to be reading threads they are engaged in?

 No.17117

>>17109
kill yourself and take this case to your grave.

 No.17118

>>17115
If the ban was reversed with an appeal what is the point? This is the reason appeals exist. It's how the system is supposed to function. Some bans will be made in error. The more you harp on this the more it seems like the ban was the right call.

 No.17120

>>17116
>>17118
Do you see a difference between participating in a thread and moderating it, and having a conversation with an anon and then banning and deleting that anon's posts once the conversation doesn't go your way? Think about it this way, would it be cool if I banned you right now if I had the ability? I say you're arguing under false pretenses because you have a different opinion.

 No.17121

>>17113
I'm fully vaxxed, lib.

 No.17122

>>17120
>Do you see a difference between participating in a thread and moderating it, and having a conversation with an anon and then banning and deleting that anon's posts once the conversation doesn't go your way?
Not if the conversation not going your way entails breaking rules. My way would include a worthwhile discussion that doesn't break the rules and derail.
>Think about it this way, would it be cool if I banned you right now if I had the ability?
I wouldn't be cool with you personally having any sort of mod powers. I'd want to know what rules I broke if somebody banned me and if it turns out the ban was an error I'd be satisfied if it got overturned on appeal.
>I say you're arguing under false pretenses because you have a different opinion.
The false pretenses thing seems pretty plausible given the whole "fascist talking point" thing and defending the honor of some reactionary idiots. But again the ban was overturned so what are you complaining about?

 No.17123

>>17120
Mods are also users, it's inevitable that we will ban people that we are in the same thread as.

>>17091
Also wow is a completely different person to m00dy anyways

t.mod

 No.17124

>>17091 (me)
<Also I recently found out that matrix (New Vector Inc.) is a fucking for-profit venture capital offshoot of a literal glowie corp. Both of the main people behind it previously worked for Amdocs, which is an Israeli company with Big Tech / MIC / telecom surveillance ties. https://www.hackea.org/notas/matrix.html The mods/admins also keep blowing off concerns about leftypol being hosted in the US (which, in addition to being literally the black hole of world imperialism, has gag order laws, which would prevent us from knowing if the server gets seized, even if you were to trust this group of literal IDpol pushing radlib narcissist coomers).
Notice the lack of response and pivot to "Karen" accusations.
Leftypol mods confirmed glowies + lowkey seething.

 No.17125

>>17123
haha naw wow is the account I made when I lost my password

 No.17126

>>17125
wut? ah fuckin hell I can never keep track

 No.17127

>>17124
This is literally schizo, like not just as an adhom. Why would an imageboard janny be a literal glowy connected to matrix? Also the fact you mention we are hosted in America raises some alarm bells as to a certain party that had tried mass flagging our host.

 No.17128

>>17125

>>17091 REDEMPTION ARC
>>17091 REDEMPTION ARC
>>17091 REDEMPTION ARC

 No.17129

>>17122
>Not if the conversation not going your way entails breaking rules.
What rule did it break? Even moody said it was by mistake, so no rules broken.
>My way would include a worthwhile discussion that doesn't break the rules and derail.
>derail
The thread was about the Canadian truckers. I posted a news article that said Trudeau is invoking the Emergencies Act, then we talked about truckers in the trucker thread. How do you derail something by staying on topic?
>I'd want to know what rules I broke if somebody banned me and if it turns out the ban was an error I'd be satisfied if it got overturned on appeal.
I wasn't banned for an one-off post or stupid OP in /siberia/. I was banned and my post deleted in the middle of a conversation with the janny. I actually wrote out a response to three different anons (one of whom was the janny), but then when I tried posting it I saw I was banned.
>defending the honor of some reactionary idiots.
Where did I do that? By saying they're either fascists or dumb boomers from Facebook? Unless you think that being a dunb fb boomer is honorable?

 No.17130

>>17127
>Why would an imageboard janny be a literal glowy connected to matrix?
I'm saying you guys are a group of ignorant radlibs who don't know the extent of your own succeptiblility to bourgeois hegemony and thus have been had by the US state department; both materially (matrix and not xmpp, US host and not non-US host) and culturally (furfag having free range of turning this site reformist and porn-pushing with selective mod bumplocks, bans, degeneration).
>Also the fact you mention we are hosted in America raises some alarm bells as to a certain party that had tried mass flagging our host.
Uygha geo/host is public information, literally anyone that gets triggered by the communist content of leftypol, especially in the anglophone part of the world you're hosted from, could be responsible for these flags. All you need is the ability to write "site geolocation" into a search engine and copy-paste the url into it to know you're hosting from the US. It was not me who flagged as I am hoping that principled communists have the time to take over before this site goes down.

 No.17131

>>17130
Post the information you claim to have about geo location. You're an ignorant retard, but now I'm curious.

 No.17132

>>17130
>I'm saying you guys are a group of ignorant radlibs who don't know the extent of your own succeptiblility to bourgeois hegemony and thus have been had by the US state department; both materially (matrix and not xmpp, US host and not non-US host) and culturally (furfag having free range of turning this site reformist and porn-pushing with selective mod bumplocks, bans, degeneration).
Where did you pay for server space somewhere else? I scrolled up and couldn't find this information. I also looked for any effort in implementing alternatives, I couldn't find any.

Could you link to the post where you outline any effort you have done into doing things differently and not just whine like an entitled burger?

 No.17133

>>17131
>ur tard
>big plz post the information you claim to have about geo location!!
And you have the tech literacy of a prepubescent.
https://www.site24x7.com/find-website-location.html
>Location information : leftypol.org
>Country Code
>US
>Country Name
>UNITED STATES
>Region
>CALIFORNIA
>City
>SAN FRANCISCO
Voilà.

 No.17134

>>17130
The site you are brigading from literally has a fbi.gov server.
>All you need is the ability to write "site geolocation" into a search engine and copy-paste the url into it to know you're hosting from the US
So you did that yourself? Otherwise I am wondering where you got that line from.
>The mods/admins also keep blowing off concerns about leftypol being hosted in the US

 No.17135

>>17134
*disc ord

 No.17136

>>17132
>Where did you pay for server space somewhere else? I scrolled up and couldn't find this information. I also looked for any effort in implementing alternatives, I couldn't find any.
>Could you link to the post where you outline any effort you have done into doing things differently and not just whine
Oh your behavior have caused me to start hatching plans alright. I think even starting over with a single /leftypol/ board could do it for most anons. As long as the foundation makes sense and the moderation is limited and consistent to communist principles.
>like an entitled burger
Pure projection. The majority of the current staff is anglo, most burger and politically anarchist, radlib as well as revisionist. The bar is as low as /r/socialism.

 No.17137

>>17133
And how is this information obtained?
I think you're about to seriously expose yourself as a fucking retard.

 No.17138

>>17136
So you admit you're a wrecker and are planning on trying to split the community.
>The majority of the current staff is anglo
A factual lie. So a wrecker and a liar. Nice.

 No.17139

>>17134
leftychan is just a carbon copy of all the problems of leftypol.org but with less users and fbi.gov integration. I am not "representing" them, and additionally - you people having frozen in time, not able to self-improve out of your deviationist direction since that conflict is your own fault. You can't blame the leftychan boogeyman forever. Eventually it just becomes so stale and pathetic. Read Marx, Engels and Lenin instead and stop turning this entire community rightward and dwindling with each stupid "mod policy improvement" (going soft on IDpol, censoring anti-revisionism while fostering capitalist roaders, being responsible for Haz, turning the sad sacks of shit over on the failed /siberia/ board into coom-addicts).

 No.17140

>>17139
It kind of sounds to me like you are just seething and collating every problem you have with leftypol into some vague boogeyman

 No.17141

>>17137
I cross-referenced it with checking the prolesphere radio or whatever it was called, which I knew to be hosted in Modova because the sysadmin told us so, and it sure as hell turned out to be correct in this third party service when I searched for it on there.
Keep coping and seething.

 No.17142

>>17140
Sure, why not, fuck you.

 No.17143

>>17141
I have no idea why you are still seething months perhaps years after bunkerchan spragga

 No.17144

>>17141
It probably uses public DNS information which is cloudflare. Congrats, you just discovered cloudflare is hosted in California. Doesn't rule out that leftypol servers might be in the US, just proved you're a silly retard.

 No.17145

>>17143
I'm also not spragga, just a witness to his obvious technical superiority and fitness in terms of sysadmin capabilities/knowledge vs your and leftychan's lot. All of you are n00bs (to use a technical term) and its embarrassing.
>>17144
>might, perhaps, maybe, plausibly deniably
Reads like a cuck's way of saying "I don't know how to rent a server in Cheekybreekyia"

 No.17146

>>17144
Also
>as if Cloudflare MITMing your fucking domain all fucking day wouldn't be a massive self-own
Read the fucking books, and the manuals.

 No.17147

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>17145

 No.17148

>>17145
>>17146
>Reads like a cuck's way of saying "I don't know how to rent a server in Cheekybreekyia"
>>as if Cloudflare MITMing your fucking domain all fucking day wouldn't be a massive self-own
>Read the fucking books, and the manuals.
Says the person who proved themselves to be technically illiterate in a hilarious self-own.

Start here:
https://support.panopto.com/s/article/How-to-Capture-Network-Logs-from-Edge-Web-Browser

>What is an HTTP header?

https://www.techopedia.com/definition/27178/http-header

You'll figure it out eventually.

 No.17149

why is this anchored? I (op) am not the anon talking about geolocation and I want this thread to be about how mods behave on the board, they should have some sort of distance and try to be objective, especially when they participate in a thread. That's when they should be hesitant to use their "powers" rather than use it as a knee-jerk reaction to something they don't like.

Also, mods should be using their tag when posting in /meta/, and they should keep each other to that. Because now we don't know if a response is an anon or a janny. Sometimes they do say, but not always.

 No.17150

>>17123
>Also wow is a completely different person to m00dy anyways
>t.mod
<mods don't even know who the other mods are
Great opsec guys, really fills me confidence.

Also put your mod tag on retard, reading through this thread I suspected that jannies were posting anon to defend the one in the OP.

 No.17151

Pathologic
>>17149
>why is this anchored?
It's answered

 No.17152

>>17150
It's called security through obscurity :^)

 No.17153

>>17150
The sycophant with 0 technical literacy and spragga genital sucker should also put a name.
If you're out of ideas "dunce" is a good one.

 No.17155

>>17153
>The sycophant with 0 technical literacy and spragga genital sucker should also put a name.
No he shouldn't. This is an anonymous imageboard. Only jannies should have to identify themselves in these threads, on this board, because of the potential for conflict of interest.
>If you're out of ideas "dunce" is a good one.
I don't even know what you're trying to say here. Just put on your mod tag, all the other imageboard mods manage to do it. I'm not asking for much here, just what's expected of you.

 No.17160

>>17155
You sure have a lot rules. Glad you got nothing to say.

 No.17161

>>17160
All I have asked ITT is that the mods start using mod tags in /meta/, why are you giving me these shitty responses which have nothing to do with what my posts are about?
I feel like I'm talking to a teenager here. Can I please request to talk to a mod that's not in high school?

 No.17162

>>17161
>high school

 No.17163

>>17162
Nice poster but I'm no burger. I'm pretty sure most countries (including my own) have high schools, or something that roughly translates to that.

 No.17164

>>17163
Ok, real answer
It's not enforceable
You and I both know

 No.17165

>>17164
It wouldn't need to be enforced if we had honest mods who pulled eachother up on these things. This only seems like a recent development within the mid team too, earlier on leftypol.org and bunkerchan mods would always post using mod tags while discussing meta issues. You need to get your shit together is what I'm saying.

 No.17166

>>17165
I reject the premise. First of, I have always posted in the same way. I just fail to see the need for tagging up.
If you are a real fan you can guess at who I am.

 No.17167

>>17166
>I just fail to see the need for tagging up.
There is an obvious conflict of interest when moderators are discussing moderation issues. I shouldn't need to explain this.
>If you are a real fan you can guess at who I am.
No idea.

 No.17168

>>17167
At this point 90% of people posting on this board have a conflict of interests.
There are no neutrals.

 No.17169

>>17168
Fuck it, why don't you just nuke this board then. It's existence is pointless if you're going to treat everyone who posts here with such an attitude.

 No.17170

>>17168
your contempt for the users of this website is palpable

 No.17171

>>17169
There is no need for such loaded questions.

 No.17172

>>17170
A small subsection at most
More indifference

 No.17173

>>17172
do you think you're better than the users just because you're a mod?
>getting a god complex from the least amount of authority possible

 No.17174

>>17173
more loaded questions

 No.17175

>>17171
I'm being serious. This board is just a waste of time for everyone if you come here with that attitude. It's a waste of time for users because we spend time writing posts and it's a waste of time for you because you're obligated to respond to our posts.

 No.17176

>>17175
I will take it into consideration.

 No.17177

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>>17176
>I will take it into consideration.
same energy

 No.17178

>>17177
projection m80


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