/meta/ - Ruthless criticism of all that exists (in leftypol.org)

I think I liked it more when mods were too busy fagging it up in the matrix server to moderate properly.

>>18652
Kek

>>18653
I saw that too lmao
how the fuck can you be a mod and not know the tor IP

>>18657
Because one shitter used Tor to spam gore endlessly (literally dozens of posts in like half an hour) and then later anti-Russian cia-shit the rest of the time - ergo the "samefag" because other posters posting similar shit also used Tor to do so. The Mods can be overbearing at times and a bit excessive, but they're people, and they respond according to the situation most of the time, they can't actually tell people apart 100%, hell I've had bots hop onto my IP before and get me banned because of their spam using my IP.

>>18651
>If one of those IPs is 127.0.0.1
Nope, but keep trying
>I wonder where all these people are, none of them have posted ITT
Because people in general don't go on /meta/ much except to complain about bans, most of them being the same set of shitposters?

>>18650
>you, a moderator
Nope, not a mod, Zeethe more
>If the majority who give any feedback at all and aren’t mods are giving negative feedback it actually says quite a lot
People give positive feedback in discussion threads, the OP here is obvious bait for people mad about mods and you bit, but the purpose of /meta/ is mainly criticism and ban appeals, ergo the larger negativity here.

>>18658
>Because one shitter used Tor to spam gore endlessly (literally dozens of posts in like half an hour)
You can't post images through tor anymore, I don't see how that's relevant to the samefag issue.
>and then later anti-Russian cia-shit the rest of the time - ergo the "samefag" because other posters posting similar shit also used Tor to do so.
Just deal with tor posts on a case by case basis and delete shit that breaks the rules. I can't see where the issue is.
>they can't actually tell people apart 100%
That's the entire point using tor. If I wanted to be judged by my post history and profiled, I would use reddit instead.

>>18659
>>If one of those IPs is 127.0.0.1
>Nope, but keep trying
<>you, a moderator
<Nope, not a mod, seethe more
So which one is it? You would have to be a mod to know for a fact that "90% of the people bitching about mods can be tracked to maybe a couple dozen IPs.". You're either a mod or making shit up to simp for the mods. Which one is it?

>>18658
>then later anti-Russian cia-shit the rest of the time
this isnt a good reason to ban the tor node for hours
i saw the retard and it couldnt even be considered spam

>>18659
> People give positive feedback in discussion threads
Lmao do you even read the moderation general on this specific board?
People fuckin hate the mods
What’s more, people despise the fact that mods here happily post without their tag, then turn around and give arbitrary bans to people that disagree with them in discussion threads

>>18660
>You would have to be a mod to know for a fact
No, I just have to look at the Home page and look at the IP count for /meta/ and also be around during the split(s). on /leftypol/ during the split the number of people that cared about the split numbered at maybe a hundred or so taking into account Tor posting. Most people ignored it completely because bitching about mod group A or B is a nothingburger. People regularly told people trying to agitate for one or the other side of the split to shut the fuck up about mod drama.
>ou're either a mod or making shit up to simp for the mods
You're either a bot or a leftychan shitter, Which one is it? I too can make bad faith accusations like yours.

>>18664
A hundred or so people is more or less the number of people using leftypol at any one time lmao

>>18661
>this isnt a good reason to ban the tor node for hours
Yes it is you fucking freemarket-tier lolbert. It disrupted conversation and only got banned because multiple people reported them and complained about it in the Ukraine thread. You can't see it because its cyclical.
>i saw the retard and it couldnt even be considered spam
Uhuh sure, when?
>>18660
>You can't post images through tor anymore
Yes you can, just not on /leftypol/ moron.
>don't see how that's relevant to the samefag issue.
Because until recently you COULD post images on /leftypol/ using Tor Mods had previously reinstated the ability after the Nikado porn spam stopped and revoked it after the gorespam started.
>Just deal with tor posts on a case by case basis
<just deal with the dozens upon dozens of tor posts per hour on top of the HUNDREDS of regular posts per hour and expect it all to go perfectly!
You're a retard. This isn't leftychan and its 20 posts per day that can be moderated by a monkey because it has the userbase of maybe 20 people at best, there are nearly 1.5 thousand IPs that post here and only a handful of mods that can't all be active in every thread all the time. People have lives outside this place, including mods. If you think this is bad moderation you don't remember the shit before.
>If I wanted to be judged by my post history and profiled
Nobody but mods can see that history and your need to evade them indicates that you either have ill motive or are actually too stupid to understand the concept of "emergency measures" against bot spam. Literal bot scripts have been reposting twitter bot copy-pasta and gore videos or other shit en masse for the past 2 weeks, the mods tried to do it case by case but it's become impossible, at least in regards to Tor, because you can't tell a sarcastic jape or actual person from a bot using Tor. Ergo the mass bans until the bot stopped, and it did. Stop making a mountain out of a molehill. Use a fucking VPN if you're so afraid of tracking, christ. This is basic shit.

>inb4 ur mod
No I've just been around the block, I've been on leftypol since fucking Aiden-Chaya and his shit and on imageboards since before /pol/ turned full stormfag. I know bad moderation and I understand the limitations of mods so I don't bitch about some small issue because the mods took decisive action. If the mods didn't do that you'd be bitching about them being unresponsive.

>>18661
I'm a tor poster and I was fully in favor of banning the tor node to deal with the one spammer.

>>18668
it wasnt spam

>>18666
>you fucking freemarket-tier lolbert
take your meds

>You can't see it because its cyclical.
seems like it was never a problem then

>>18669
It was spam and it was also ban evasion.

>>18665
>A hundred or so people is more or less the number of people using leftypol at any one time
No, the usual PPH is 200-400 depending on the time of day. I'm talking a couple hundred over the entire drama, out of a site population of roughly 1,400 people. 100 is barely 15% of the population and even then that's only people that cared about the moddrama in general, not the number of people mad about the mods currently. Most people do not give a fuck about mods unless they get banned and most people are smart enough not to post dumb shit and get banned or if they do, they appeal it and 90% of the time get the ban removed.
You previously mention the moderation general (disregarding my clear point on it being a specifically negative thread) if you look through that thread (as best as you can given that it had ben cyclical for a time and lost some of the appeals, a lot of the arguments are not one-sided mod hate and many appeals get bans lifted. Most of the posts in those threads are a couple anons arguing and the occasional mod reply.

>People fuckin hate the mods
No YOU hate mods, that's fine but bitching about it and then jerking off leftychan is just shilling.
>people despise the fact that mods here happily post without their tag
Oh it's this schizo shit again. There is no proof of this happening, only the claim of a very dubious poster that has a history of shitting up threads and schizo takes, hell that user never even gets permabanned, only day or week bans at most and they are free to post their shit most of the time untouched.
>give arbitrary bans to people that disagree with them in discussion
A couple of times I've seen mods ban people they argue against, but that's pretty damn rare and its almost never a serious ban and other mods usually lift it.
t.someone that got banned arguing with a mod

>>18670
>ban evading on .onion
>this must mean longer bans for everyone
lol are you a new mod, youre seriously fucking retarded

>>18666
>multiple people reported them
<I'm not a mod guise
Not only can you see IPs you can also see reports!
Man when did they make that information public to everyone?

>I've been on leftypol since fucking Aiden-Chaya
No one cares about unverifiable bullshit.

>>18669
>seems like it was never a problem
They made it cyclical only recently you shitter and anyone in the thread agrees it's shit.
>m-meds
You first

>wasnt spam
<stage 1
NTA but Ok faggot

>>18672
You're ignoring material reality. it's not possible to enforce bans on tor users so banning the tor node was the only choice. Or should leftypol not enforce its rules on ban evasion if the poster is on tor or using VPNs?

>>18673
> not a mod guise
People literally stated they reported the guy in the thread you fucking mong. Just because I can read and remember things for more than 15 minutes, doesn't mean I'm a mod, you boogieman projecting goldfish.
>No one cares about unverifiable
Nobody cares about yours either, yet here we are.

>>18673
>>18669
>>18665
>>18662
Are the Mods in the Room with us Mr. Smith?

>>18664
>I just have to look at the Home page and look at the IP count for /meta/
Those IP counters don't take tor into account and what does that even prove exactly?

>>18666
>Yes you can, just not on /leftypol/ moron.
I know you can't post images over tor in /siberia/ either.
>Because until recently you COULD post images on /leftypol/
Recently being what, four or five months ago? For a site that's barely a year old?
>just deal with the dozens upon dozens of tor posts per hour on top of the HUNDREDS of regular posts per hour and expect it all to go perfectly!
99% of tor posts don't need moderator action and the users do half the work by reporting rule breaking posts. If this is an issue then hire more mods instead of locking a good portion of the userbase out of the site for hours on end.
>your need to evade them indicates that you either have ill motive or are actually too stupid to understand
"if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear".
>Ergo the mass bans until the bot stopped, and it did.
Why the fuck is the tor node still getting banned then?
>>inb4 ur mod
If only there was a really fucking easy way to differentiate mods from users, then I wouldn't have to read your little faggy paragraph about how much of an oldfag you are.

>>18679
>Why the fuck is the tor node still getting banned then?
Tor node is not banned, I've been posting in the Ukraine thread this whole time using tor.

>>18666
>your need to evade them indicates that you either have ill motive or are actually too stupid to understand
And you have the gall to call others "glowies" lmfao

>>18680
It was banned on /leftypol/ for most of yesterday spread through at least three different bans.

>>18679
>Those IP counters don't take tor into account
You keep fapping about Tor as if a lot of people use it, they don't. Your entire post is just Orwell-tier gaslighting, and I use Orwell specifically, given that he was a racist, traitorous faggot.
>Why the fuck is the tor node still getting banned
It isn't you moron, refresh the node you fucking n00b
>I know you can't post images over tor in /siberia/ either.
I literally did that an hour ago, you're literally lying

>>18681
>you have the gall to call others "glowies"
Yes, because I'm actually following basic logic: You're literally that one ass from Monty Python provoking the knights and then crying "help help I'm being oppressed!"

>>18682
No it has not been. Image posting is banned on /leftypol/ but it's been up for the majority of the time. The bans have been for an hour at most if the spammer started shitting themselves again and after it passes they remove the ban.

>>18679
>your little faggy paragraph
And yet you read it anyway, fag.
>the users do half the work by reporting rule breaking posts
Nice goal post shift, As I pointed out already mods ARE responding to reports, they rarely act outside of that because it's impossible to keep track of all the threads and boards for 15 or so mods 24/7 at the same time. You're literally bitching about nothing.

>>18683
>I literally did that an hour ago, you're literally lying
Can confirm, I just posted an image on siberia thru tor.

>>18683
>You keep fapping about Tor as if a lot of people use it, they don't
A lot of people do use for, I've heard around 20% of all posts. How could you know how many people use tor anyway, with you totally not being a mod?
>Your entire post is just Orwell-tier gaslighting, and I use Orwell specifically, given that he was a racist, traitorous faggot.
malding
>It isn't you moron, refresh the node you fucking n00b
see >>18682
>I literally did that an hour ago, you're literally lying
I distinctly remember trying to post images using tor in /siberia/ during November/December and January, only to get a message saying it was disabled. It must have only been enabled recently. I literally saw someone complaining that they couldn't post porn in /siberia/ very recently>>/siberia/224199
<id add some porn to further my point but mods are fags and dont let tor users post pics on siberia
Image posting being enabled must have only happened recently.

>>18678
At least I know you aren’t a jannie

>>18689
I know you're not the same user idiot, you have different posting styles. My point is both of you are seeing boogiemen.

>>18687
>I've heard around 20% of all posts
That's still only roughly 200 IPs at best (given that people may do 200 posts
>How could you know how many people use tor anyway, with you totally not being a mod
Because I fucking talk to people, I ask mods and other people information, because I don't just go around looking to bitch about "muh mods" for free on a goddamn Greek Pottery Smashing forum.
>malding
<no argument
>See
Literally a lie, given that I fucking posted using Tor in that time frame.
>during November/December and January
Yeah That's literally 2 months ago because there had been a bot consistently spamming Nikado avocado's asshole, you can ask lefty on lefty.booru, the same bot spammed literally 3 pages of pics on the booru in that time frame.
> I literally saw someone complaining that they couldn't post porn in /siberia/
Again, go into your fucking node and change your exit node, FFS.

>>18691
>That's still only roughly 200 IPs at best (given that people may do 200 posts
I can't make sense of what you're saying here. My point is that 20% of the userbaae is a lot and shouldn't be arbitrarily locked out of the site.
>Because I fucking talk to people, I ask mods and other people information
Oh so you're a matrix fag, if not a mod. That explains a lot.
>Again, go into your fucking node and change your exit node, FFS.
I have seen countless people complaining about not being able to post images using tor over the past few months. tbh after my initial attempts I stopped trying and posted them using a VPN, but the complaints were consistent. I'm almost certain that mageposting over tor has been banned for long periods of time.

i want to fuck the leftypol mods

im a girl btw

>If you pay any attention whatsoever you must be a janitor
Honestly, what in the everloving fuck. I can't help but think of these spanish fascists chanting
>Death to the intellect. Long live death.

>>18666
Nice numbers

>>18687
>I've heard around 20% of all posts.
Who did you hear that off?
Seriously, I'm curious where that number comes from. It's closer to 2 than 20 (which is still a significant amount of people).

>>18691
>Again, go into your fucking node and change your exit node, FFS.
Exit nodes are banned due to extreme abuse by commercial spam bots and raider skiddies. They have been for months now.

Generally regarding the Tor image bans, it's a tough and dynamic situation; on one hand we do want to provide full use to privacy aware users, but on the other it's often used for abuse, for obvious reasons.
Anyone who views /meta/ is likely already aware but there are a small group of people (such as a small subset of the /pol/ raiders and a couple of fixated former users) who literally spend hours a day regularly posting abuse on the site and post content up to and including illegal images. It's fascinating to watch how obsessed these people are over banal online drama, we are talking hours a day and almost every day for months.
The long-lasting Tor image bans are unfortunate (I know, because they affect my posting too), but it significantly reduces the amount of illegal images on the site from malicious actors who think Tor will protect them, and IMO we'd need to almost double the mod team size before I'd be comfortable in Tor nodes being left open.

That's definitely not to say the majority of Tor posts are abuse. Certainly not, most of its traffic is legitimate and high-quality. But it is still often used for extreme abuse, especially during happenings.

>>18694
Aren't half of the mod team girls?

>>18671
>Most people do not give a fuck about mods unless they get banned and most people are smart enough not to post dumb shit and get banned or if they do, they appeal it and 90% of the time get the ban removed.
I want to highlight this cause it's pretty important if you wish to understand stupid things like that (but why would you want to).
If you can understand self selection, you already understand image boards and there is no more need to appeal to majority. The whole point of the whole idea was that it doesn't matter who you are. This also includes numbers. I think anyone searching for majorities for their trash opinion must be on the slow side for a multitude of reasons.

>>18703
"girls" of girls?

>>18569
based
>>18570
cringe fuck up simp

>>18705
90% are female but only 70% are girls.

>>18569
>Remember folks, [thing that didn't happen] while [people not letting dumb sectarian internet drama decide which chat rooms they talk in]!
I've heard better unity rally cries from nazi tourists.

>>18710
Regardless of the extent of leftychan's pedophilia it would be preferable to curb communication with them.

>>18710
Wait are you saying that the mod team is 20% trans guys? Use more specific language

>>18710
>[thing that didn't happen]
This is just what I could find with a quick search:

>>16854
<You can circlejerk on your pedo shithole if that is more your speed

>>16486
<go back there to your pedo shithole then

>>12819
<yeah just allow cp like leftychan

Jannies lying, as ever. This poster >>18714 immediately proved my point anyways, so thank you for being a retard anon.

>[people not letting dumb sectarian internet drama decide which chat rooms they talk in]
That's not what I said at all. My point was that you're talking on a daily basis to people who you believe are moderators of a child pornography site. I would assume that if you genuinely believed that you would cease communication with them.

>>19336
this

>>19336
This

Mods are paranoid attention whores constantly searching by IP or looking for excuses to use their faggy capcodes or public ban messages outside of /meta/.