No.32508
8ch leftypol (in like 2015-17 when I was there) was a clusterfuck of endless /pol/ bait threads and autistic screeching about idpol but I remember it being a bit more politically diverse (i.e. more of a balance of anarchists and tankies). there were also a lot more namefags/tripfags/other associated board personalities.
No.32509
I hate capitalism.
No.32510
>>32507way more retarded. I would say that 15% of the people here have read the first chapter of capital, which is a lot compared to the old 8chan /leftypol/ <2%
No.32511
>>1737479
Absolutely not true, Stalinism has never been more rampant on leftypol. That's mostly because no one reads but just consooms the recent geopolitical bourgeois spectacle. At the time when there is the most urgent need of exchanging tactics and organizational information and experience, we've reduced leftypol to a quasicommunist 4chan (here I am talking about the form of the spectacle consumption infecting both sites which manifests here in the complaints of "Russophobia" or "Sinophobia" which by all means is the same exact sentiment of white genocide theories).
If you avoid generals and their brainrot, most of the threads can have a good discussion. I'll point to the several dengbait threads which forced the Stalinist Dengist to retreat when confronted with their lack of not understanding theory, and the /isg/ folks saw they could never theoretically dispute the Leninist Center.
It has happened again. The right opportunists and the left deviationist have to put down by the Leninist Center.
No.32512
>>32511>dengbait threads Really, it's the opposite. it showed the anti-deng obsessives (what a retarded non-ideology) had not the first inkling of an idea about either contemporary or historical politics
No.32513
>>32512but you don't understand!!1
the east has fallen,
billions must die
No.32514
It's pretty shit.
The time I learned the most from /leftypol/ was 2015-2017. Old leftypol had it all: a mixture of really well read people and shitposters and memelords. And it could be really fucking sectarian, but the moment nazis walked in the whole board united against them, it was hilarious. Overall, 8chan /leftypol/ was way better educated than now. For example the leftcoms here are a joke compared to old /leftypol/ leftcoms. Anarchists and M-L posters have also declined in quality. Certain strains were more prevalent, like trots, titoists, nihilists, anarcho egoists, but have disappeared completely since then. Many people back then still loved Zizek. As far as I remember, China and Deng were almost completely irrelevant. The monthly 'Read X' spam with Bordiga, Bookchin, Cockshott, etc. Naziposter was an excellent contributor who dunked on /pol/'s ignorance. Hoochie was batshit crazy, and how weird this was the time when a board could have a female tripfag without a legion of obnoxious coomers following her. And so on… it was good while it lasted.
No.32515
>>32514when did it all go downhill?
No.32516
Well you get banned for not agreeing with every tankie foreign policy opinion again now, so I guess we're back to 8chan /leftypol/ in at least one way. In every other way we're still on newfag /leftypol/, so it's kind of a worst of both worlds I'm afraid.
No.32517
>>32511>the left deviationist have to put [be] down by the Leninist Center.Well in that case you won't like when that happens
No.32518
>>32508pretty much. there were a lot of really well read leftcoms, and a lot more stirnerposting. there was a lot more OC being actively made all the time, partly out of there being a lot of optimism that /leftypol/ was going to grow into its own real counterweight to /pol/
No.32519
>>32515somewhere in the drama of the /leftypol/ /leftychan/ split is my best guess. i think around then a lot of the effortposters just gave up
No.32520
>>32507It was a lot more obsessed with idpol, in a pathetic "we are not like those other leftist snowflakes, we can say bad words" way. I think there was more variety when it came to ideologies and tendencies. Also unironic dengoids only became a big thing in like 2018 or 2019, before then it was considered on par with being a Pol Pot apologist or hoxhaist.
No.32521
>>32519so basically the only way to get this place back on its legs would be to effortpost and therefore make it look better to the inside community and outside
No.32522
>>32515The great schism of 2017 and finally 8chan getting nuked. And more recently the endless mod infighting since the bunkerchan days.
No.32523
>>32521that would be a benefit, but theres no going back, the internet just isnt nearly the same place as it was when /leftypol/ was in its golden era. the biggest change is that in a lot of ways the "idpol" battle has been won and no one outside insane internet cliques cares about it to nearly the same degree that they used to. /leftypol/'s peak lined up with the height of left-liberal insanity about idpol and language policing so it was a refuge for a lot of people that just wanted to talk about communism or anarchism without getting swamped with that shit. now some varying degree of idpol criticism has become pretty standard or at least perfectly acceptable among the broader left, and the excesses involved in leaning too far into anti-idpol are more clear with the hazoids and "patsocs" and other assorted brainworms like that
its just a totally different landscape in general these days
No.32524
>>32523of course i agree that it will never be like before but im new and i like it here it's quite comfy
seeing aktion is always fun so there are things we can do to make this a better place
No.32525
>>32520>dengoids only became a big thing in like 2018 or 2019china has become the indisputable main adversary of the imperialists, of course people will start paying more attention to it. the 2 most insufferable trotskyists I know irl have been talking about it since 2016
>>32521>>32523you two are literally the worst posters here, congratulations. the only reason I allow this site to store cookies is so I don't have to re-add your filters every day
No.32526
>>32517On that note
just a reminder not to engage low-quality bait in particular
No.32527
>>32511>Stalinism has never been more rampant on leftypol>muh stalinismalso, nah, there were more educated ML that could argue in long effortposts and knew history, but also a lot more lib / anarchists / trots and various specific ideology vehemently defended by a couple guy. Its just that other ideologies declined more than MLs.
>forced the Stalinist Dengist to retreat lol, thats not the read I got. If anything the nuanced position always seem to win. "The move absolutely worked out both for china and for breaking unipolar imperialism, but this is dangerous in regard to future development, what will happen remain to be seen"
8chan was the most "under siege" period, so much polyps everyone mostly banded together against them. A lot more anti idpol discussion.
bunkerchan was more chill, and there were not that much big happenings either. So there was a slow decline, having already bled users in the 8chan closing. The splits and mods dramas also killed a big portion of the userbase later.
Overall the board got more homogeneous as time passed. And much like the real left, ukraine war fractured people and prolly caused some more to fuck off
>>32516the consistent anti imperialism is the best feature of leftypol. Im glad people that cant even argue without nato talking points get banned.
No.32528
>>32524Finally another nazbol
now neither of us have to be virgins anymore
>>32525You really would do that? Filter by flag?
No.32529
>>32528but if we stop being virgins we HAVE to also stop being nazbols… it's like the number one rule
No.32531
>>32528I have more filters than there are posters. if you:
>use a meme flag>use a name>use a tripcode>post more than 500 characters>use the words PMC, unequal exchange, praxis, dialectic, gender, idpol, multipolar, literally, or authoritarianI literally can't read your post
sometimes I can because the javascript regex really struggles to match everything No.32533
>>32531Filtering ancom flag probably a good idea yea
No.32534
>>32532i mean it's not that far off, it at least tries to give third world countries somewhat equal treaties (when it benefits them) which is better than what 90 percent of the imperial core does
No.32535
While I personally was very critical of OldBO at that time I have to admit that he has been completely vidicated. We have seen anarchist online spaces going from being apologist over US military bases in Rojava to straight-up posting supportive memes of unironic Nazi military battalions. He was right.
No.32536
>>32527>Im glad people that cant even argue without nato talking points get banned.Then you haven't learned any lessons. It's why you've failed to actually challenge /pol/ in the imageboard space and they have not just continued the domination they had before, but radically expanded it. If you think you can win by jannying your clubhouse you're wrong.
No.32537
>>32507Less diverse ideologies from the original. At some points tankies started purging each other and here we are. Also the war in Ukraine broken minds of many former leftists.
No.32539
>>32508I miss times shilling against them making them fight each other. /pol/ had thousands of members more but ended up mocked in /leftypol/ threads by effort posters.
No.32540
>>32539We didn't need to shill to make them fight each other lol that's just their natural state. 8chan /pol/tards made up a conspiracy theory about SomethingAwful infiltrating the website and would accuse random people of being "goons" because of this, they also thought some Nazi blog called The Right Stuff was infiltrating the whole site too (apparently there was a slight grain of truth in this one because they were covertly advertising their site).
No.32542
>>32539the problem was that too many people tried to debate them from what I remember
No.32543
NGL it sounds like the "golden era" of leftypol was kinda lame based on this thread and also because I wasn't there.
No.32544
>>32511>complaints of "Russophobia" or "Sinophobia" which by all means is the same exact sentiment of white genocide theoriesuhhh
No.32547
honestly
ah, doesn't matter
No.32548
People keep yapping about how much this place sucks but there's nowhere else better but the meatspace to talk politics. Just take a whiff at 4chan, Reddit, Twitter, any public Discors server, then say that again.
No.32549
>>32548yeah i like it here and its not even the worst /leftypol/ has been
No.32550
>>32543It was pretty great but the best part of it was 100% the astonomical butthurt it caused.
No.32551
It's definitely a much less vibrant, intellectually rigorous, and creatively exciting place. I've thought about advertising elsewhere to try and draw people here, but then I wonder why bother? Shitposters and jerks obsessed with "board culture" make coming here a waste of time.
No.32552
When was the last time you remember a PDF being posted to support an argument. That's one of the main differences beyond just a lack of a meme culture (drawfagging, making webms and songs).
I'll talk more later, but that's one to get the ball rolling.
No.32553
>>32539There's a good reason that almost all effortposts and deboonk posts in the booru were from 8ch.
No.32554
>>32507There's less bait threads, but there's also less funny and entertaining threads. It's all way more serious, as much as a chan board can be at least. I think my favorite thread I've seen since coming back is the "scare the hoes opinion" thread.
No.32555
>>32552That's probably what I miss most tbh.
No.32556
>>32531>>post more than 500 charactersholy twitter addiction batman!
No.32557
>>32555>>32552I don't think I've seen a single Stirner-post since I've been back. Sad times.
No.32558
>>32531jesus I bet this place seems super slow with all those filters
No.32560
I memeflag egoism all the time, and I saw someone else doing it this week.
I have not read The Ego and its Own :)
No.32562
>>32550and still causes. 8ch and bunkerchan /leftypol/ still live rent free in a few heads.
>>32554Certain mods post-2020 started pushing everything which wasn't SRSBSNS into si/b/eria, and even things which were too high-effort into /edu/. Huge mistake.
No.32563
>>32561Occasionally, although mostly just Maxine Stirner or ghostbusters jokes.
I also made the Spooky theme for Halloween… 2022? No.32564
>>32515i'm gonna say it seems more like the optimism this anon
>>32518 pointed out died. But idk i left for a while between 2017 and 2019 and didnt notice the leftpol stuff. 8ch going down probably hurt things because leftypol lacked built-in opposition, but what i noticed most is the lack of active OC and the cross-platform culture spread that existed 2016-17. Maybe it was just me but there was more respect for a youtube niche somewhat tied to leftypol,
and there was old breadtube, and there was the catgirl drama. Somewhere that vitality left. A part of it seems like a newfag problem, i think 2021, with bunkerchan as it is divorced from a wider set of boards, and the tourists here for watching the protests, that all probably set the stage for a massive dilution of the previous culture. Certain norms maintain but they're more negative, and the iconoclasm and creative culture are gone. Moving here most likely made things even worse. The site
feels like its full of newfags (whether it is or not).
>>32520and yet it still felt more interesting and dynamic. The main retardation here is arguments around the theme of "are the bourgeoisie (or secret eastern communist cabal) going to bring about socialism/collapse of capitalism for us?". With idpol arguments, it brings in both libs and nazis, who have their own communities and bring in new voices and culture with them. Who (outside entity) are we discoursing with now? (infracels?? warped greyzone fans on twitter?)
>>32521it has always been that way, but tbh why bother? Who are you effortposting to? (at least that's my feeling, i used to and i gave up. And i've stopped seeing my fav effortposters here so i stop checking in so often.)
>>32524its nice that you're comfy here, it's an important reminder that while this place is less dynamic than it was before, it's still going to be in some people's growth zones. Just don't get sucked in, this place feels cultlike. If you get diminishing returns, go read something. Comfortable isn't always healthy.
No.32565
>>32507I found leftypol near the ass end of the 8 Chan Era. Which had more OC granted but it was garbage for the most part but most internet stuff was back then and we loved it. I don't remember too much from that time. My favourite Era was eaely bunkerchan, lots of good OC and effort posting through late trump and early covid.
>>32564> A part of it seems like a newfag problem, i think 2021, with bunkerchan as it is divorced from a wider set of boards, and the tourists here for watching the protests, that all probably set the stage for a massive dilution of the previous culture.Imo I think the talent moved out of leftypol into the boarder internet like breadtube. And now leftypol exist as a tourist hub for happenings. I don't think it's necessarily a bad a thing. A lot of leftist creators got their start here and still come here and post. Now that leftistsim has gone mainstream somewhat and will continue to become more mainstream you're never going to recapture the magic of the beginnings of leftypol. The question is how should leftypol go forward?
No.32566
>>32565oh, that does make sense too. People moved on to bigger and better things (or transitioning gender on camera for the world to see and then making self important art house cinema instead of comedy - to each their own)
leftypol should just die going forward (jk but i think it's sadly in its final stage, i don't think there will be a leftypol rejuvenation, i used to be hopeful on this and had many ideas but its not realistic i think). Re-invest attention and talents to clock app. All hail bytedance
No.32567
anyone remember that one time anons made a fake letter claiming to be antifa and showing up on right wing news sites
No.32568
>>32548Exactly. I wish leftypol had caught on and been a big success too, but it's still comfy and the people here have better takes than mostly anywhere else online
No.32569
>>32548>>32568Just by virtue of not being infested with the nazis the site is easily in the top 5 imageboards of all time and I too think despite all the shitflinging the site has an overall comfy feeling with good takes. IP count could be higher but I would be fine with it being relatively low tbh.
>>32566>leftypol should just die going forward (jk but i think it's sadly in its final stage, i don't think there will be a leftypol rejuvenation, i used to be hopeful on this and had many ideas but its not realistic i think).I think ur prolly right but I hope your wrong. I feel like if we could somehow get a 100-200 more regular users we'd have a pretty good sized community but I honestly don't even know how we would go about recruiting new users since you have the slim ass venn diagram overlap of communist and uses imageboard.
No.32570
>>32569>honestly don't even know how we would go about recruiting new usersI think at this point the angle would have to be that its a rare mix here of anonymous enough that you can say dumb shit and be rude (unlike the rest of social media where you inevitably build a persona and are accountable to it), but there is also genuine anger and concern at the brutality of the world and some broad sense of identification with humanity in general. theres not many places where you have various active international subcommunities posting about their own region of the world at the same time its normal and fun to normal to call people a retarded faggot because you have a minor disagreement with them
No.32572
tbf at the time leftypol had a lot of students posting here. there's a lot less time for imageboards when you're working full time.
No.32574
>>32573unfortunately many of non rightwing shithole ones I used to browse are just straight up gone. I miss lagunachan
No.32575
i hate radlibs
No.32576
>>32575Literally incorrect.
No.32577
>>32507Idpol/Anti-Idpol threads as far as the eye could see.
It was a stupid discussion back then, and now it's unbelievably embarrassing how much time and thought that subject took up on the board.
It's a lot more chill now though. Mods are too friendly towards some shitty posters (cuck queer). Still an improvement, especially since board meltdowns used to happen like every 6 months.
No.32578
>>32577>board meltdowns used to happen like every 6 months.screencap ?
No.32579
>>32577>now it's unbelievably embarrassing how much time and thought that subject took up on the boardIt's a little embarrassing if you identify with this place I suppose.
No.32582
>>32580China is Communist.
Read Stalin to understand socialist commodity production.
Building the productive forces IS class struggle.
All of those images are manifestations of the most developed forms of proletarian class consciousness.
No.32584
>>32580Irrelevant
What I saw was still the opposite
No.32587
>>32585Yeah 2014-2016 /leftypol/ was just as shit as I remember.
We already have more than 5 of these threads here right now.
>Multiple jews bad threads thanks to Palestine>Le Christcom thread>Why is the left so anti (X)>/isg/ lite>Disease habbening>Are the republicans far right?>/usapol/ liteI could have sworn I posted on this thread before where the fuck did my post go.Am I thinking of another thread? Jesus… Time really is just a flat circle, we never left usenet, the internet just evolves to higher file sizes…Anyway we tend to have a idealized image that board culture on 8chan peaked around 2015, when in reality it only began peaking and going up and down, but was consistently better from 2015-2018 depending on the board, /v/ for instance worked best during 2015 and 2018 respectively for different reasons.
Regardless, the only massive difference I can think of for early 8 /leftypol/ was eceleb culture being rampant and a massive part of it. You could in theory have access to far more esoteric knowledge that has since left the netosphere because of the spiritualism meme but that's a whole other discussion…
OG /leftypol/ was about Satantrips or whatshername posting boobs.
That's it.
No other boards had as big of an eceleb culture except /co/, or /b/.
I still say that in regards to catalogging all /leftypol/ periods, 2020-late 2022 was still the worst time period for the vague approximation of the board that exists in our consciousness but is closer to the Ship of Theseus in reality.
No.32588
>>32511>here I am talking about the form of the spectacle consumption infecting both sites which manifests here in the complaints of "Russophobia" or "Sinophobia" which by all means is the same exact sentiment of white genocide theoriesSo according to your opinion those ethnicities aren't persecuted in the West?
No.32590
>>32585Yep, confirms my muddied memory that this place used to be worse but only because redundant shit threads were allowed. Also slightly more incel shit since that was the current thing in 2014, and crypto-reactionary "socialists" (that FdB thread).
Otherwise, no major differences.
No.32591
>>32585jesus christ, looks like the board in [CURRENT_YEAR]
No.32592
>>32585Obama, music, and gun thread. That's about it
No.32593
I intentionally said 'must'.
How about a nice wallpaper thread, hmm?
No.32594
>>32587>>32590This screenshot was taken about three weeks in to /leftypol/s existence, so it's basically just /pol/ users with a left theme to that point (there wasn't any unique culture at that point). That's part of why half the board is 'hey im a pol user', 'why do leftists think this?'.
No.32595
>>32594You right but check the archives from the other periods, they don't exactly differ much, you can argue again /leftypol/ lost
>Obscurant theory>Casual threads>E celebsBut it's overall not too different from now.
No.32597
>>32589Not even me and more approaching the 50-60
No.32598
>>32596It's pretty funny when people irl or on twitter say that "on this this site they used to visit, there was this poster " and you just know that it is about leftypol and the poster in question is one of our resident schizos/name-/flagfags.
No.32599
there's a lot more idpol shit
i don't know when mods stopped banning it on sight
No.32600
>>32599The only way out is through
>banning it on sightPretty sure this never happened. This strongly seems to be a myth to me. It's made up.
No.32601
I was drunk for most of 8ch leftypol but the mods here are more strict and nosy
No.32603
>>32585DeBoer? Where have I heard this name before?
No.32606
>>32586>uyghur is chan cultureShit argument. Bunch of candy-asses
No.32607
It was way funnier but also much much much more retarded and larpy.
No.32608
>>32601Eeeehhhh, they used to be one and a half to two years ago, they're back on like 2017ish levels before they got so bad a board split happened, so not excessive.
No.32609
>>32600i mean the threads got deleted more or less instantly
No.32610
>>32601honestly i think this is probably the best the mods have ever been. the exception is when they inexplicably move good threads to edu to die
No.32611
In Comparison to 8chan. Less people less raids and smarter and nicer userbase. less artfags too which is a shame. Anarchism seems more dead here and we have dengists and shit.
No.32612
This historic /leftypol/ thread on 8chan was a nutshell of that board back then.
https://archive.is/CjfBC No.32613
old leftypol was still insecure about being made fun of by pol for "SJWism", so they adopted "anti-idpol" (reactionaryism) in an attempt to portray themselves as the cool, edgy left wingers.
This, in practice, mostly involved hating women and minorities.
No.32615
>>32507You didnt get banned once a week if a schizo jannie disagreed with your views.
No.32616
I don't know how it used to be. But its better than revleft and that's all that matters.
No.32617
>>32507Equally retarded, different flavor.
At least the decline in quality has plateaued, though there will never ever ever ever be OC creators ever again due to how dogshit this place is now.
No.32618
>>32613>>32614I was there.
What women were hated on?
What minorities were hated on?
Stop making shit up.
>>32611>smarter userbaseAre you retarded?
>nicer userbaseThat's just typical zoomers timidity.
No.32619
>>32618Neither zoomer nor timid
I still rather have a place where people talk to each other like human beings instead of constantly screaming at each other
No.32620
>>32618>That's just typical zoomers timidity.Damn yall really embraced your inner boomer.
>>32611>>32613imageboards seem more or less the same.
>>32554Are you sure about that?
>>32548IDK, This place treats me the same as everywhere else so its kinda 50/50.
7chan is the exception. They treat me much better than any other website
No.32621
>>32515Old BO going full fuckwit and needlessly secretarian.
No.32622
>>32598I saw people referencing our resident thingnoticer on twitter, leninhat and shay too.
No.32623
>>32599You've got to be kiding me old leftypol was basically full idpol, just more "right coded" type of idpol than now. That's partly what made it so funny and retarded.
I kind of miss all the different type of leftists there were on old leftypol tho. Now it's mostly just ML and Dengist.
No.32624
>>32596I've had leftypol mentioned to me irl twice.
I denied all knowledge of it both times.
Bit weird but probably maybe just an outlier I think on account of I call people a fucking retard and etc irl quite liberally.
No.32625
>>32624>I denied all knowledge of it both times.pussy
No.32626
Forcing ultras to eat a slice of lasagna every time they fail to understand the difference between mcm' and cmc' circuits
No.32627
>>32625Rule 1 and 2 anon.
No.32628
I can speak about leftypol from 2020 onwards.
Between BLM and the Covid-19 it was PEAK KINO at times.
Then it mostly got fading in quality IMHO
No.32630
>>32624What kind of schizos are you hanging out with IRL that they know this place!? This site is pretty damned obscure, as are most 8chan offshoots…
No.32631
>>32630>obscure>generated the polyp face>spawned Haz>gave rise to a fuckton of leftist shitposts >home of the political cat girls>this site is obscureObscure to whom, anon?
No.32632
>>32511>their lack of not understanding theorydouble negative. dengoids win again.
No.32633
>>32508There were also a lot more posts about theory and people shilling their favorite theorists.
No.32635
Todays leftypol is like the wall of a public toilet of a pretentious "leftist" bar while old leftypol was like an angry clandestine Marxist book club spontaneously associating within a nazi internment camp.
No.32636
>>32507Old leftypol was fillen with homophobic/racist firstoids obsessed with Soviet aesthetics, it was a nazbol hellhole unironically and spawned subhuman filth like Haz
No.32637
>>32634>/leftypol/ is responsible for zizeklol, this is almost as dumb as "/leftypol/ has a writer at foreign policy"
>>32613do you really think people would do that? just go on the internet and tell lies?
No.32638
>>32634>an actual university news articleAre you adolescent or something? University, or any learning institute, lower, higher or "scientific", are not inherently qualitative. Especially with (famous) faculty increasingly getting their degrees from obscure diploma mills.
No.32640
>>32552>When was the last time you remember a PDF being posted to support an argument.Oh yeah. People posting videos (not even a direct upload, but Youtube) instead of that should be bullied.
>>32531Sounds like what we have here is the multi-idpölar PRAXI$ of the AUTH0RITARIAN GENDER d𝗂alect𝗂c in a 𝗅itera𝗅𝗅y une𝗊ual ＥXCHANGＥ of ideas here my fellow PMᑕ.
No.32642
>>32636This is not true at all lol, if Haz was spawned by /leftypol/ at all which is debatable, it was most definitely nu/leftypol/
No.32643
/leftypol/ was always shit.
I've been on 8chan /pol/ in september 2014 (yes even before the full goobergate ban on 4chan) and it was a surprisingly balanced group of fringes – lolberts, dork enlightenment, stormfags, and eventual /leftypol/ were pretty balanced. Were it not for that month, I would probably never have taken up posting on 8chan, and the insufferable avatar known as "slovborg" that developed on 8chan's /int/ board would not exist today. I would merely be another lurker that occasionally effortpoasts.
Dork enlightenment got bullied off by low effort shitposting, and /leftypol/ surrendered and decided they want to have a safespace where their views can't be challenged.
This was the turning point that cemented the political fate of 8/pol/. December mod selection which turned everything into a railroaded astroturf was just the final nail in the coffin.
This is why I have always had a strongly negative opinion of /leftypol/. Their surrender and retreat into a safespace spelled the downfall of 8chan (and myself). Nowadays there's some decent content on here. Mods are very ban happy. Your memetics are very shallow and lend your ideas to mirroring a lot of ideas /pol/ created through idiocy or pure shenanigans, but your idea of fun involves an abundance of words and generally over constructed ideas.
I met a transhumanist irl that thought everything should be filed through a marxist lens. It really bothered me. We're defiling ideas to inspire zero new creations, only stagnated old world thought to apply to modern problems because lolmarxsaidso.
No.32645
>>32507I've been on different iterations of the board.
This is by far the worst one so far. There were always weirdos, incels, schizos and dumbfucks, but the mods this time around have basically let the loudest assholes in the room slowly alienate anyone else who isn't also a schizo asshole - and then people wonder why the user count is dwindling
that said - the board culture is somewhat to blame. When you have a culture where the goal is to be the Edgiest Radlib-Triggerer On Earth, you end up with a culture where earnest discussion drowns under a sea of adolescent invective
No.32646
>>32507A lot more reactionary with red paint.
Talk of settler colonialism would have probably labelled idpol.
No.32647
>>32646There were a lot of people who openly said that anti-colonialism was the same as nazi blood and soil ideology (across the board, not just in specific cases).
No.32649
>>32648t. thinks water protectors are doing white genocide
No.32652
>>32651Trying to tie any conversation of these topics back to your super niche anonymous American pamphlet was and is transparently disingenuous though. Literally nobody ever knew orcared who sakai was until weirdos on this site dug it up exactly to illegitimise these struggles.
No.32653
>>32652>Literally nobody ever knew orcared who sakai was until weirdos on this site dug it up exactly to illegitimise these struggles.That's simply not true.
No.32654
>>32651The problem is when people make arguments like
>Sakai is a glowie>therefore the Raj and Bengal famine were good No.32655
>>32652It was dug up years earlier by SomethingAwful because they knew Americans are fucking retards
No.32656
>>32652saki was always championed by something awful goons, they had a sub forum, now a break away forum called the rhizzone were they jerk off hard about sakai. anything sakai can be traced back to something awful, but then we get talking about something awful and how many goons turn out to be feds, cia, and working for the man.
No.32657
>>32656>the sakai push originates from SAimagine my shock
No.32658
>>32656>>32657Yup, they were the ones who started and pushed the "read Settlers" meme.
No.32659
I don't know. I joined only a week ago!
No.32660
>>32659fwiw i've been here since 2020 and people have always hated on the current iteration of the site
No.32662
we've been in a constant state of "leftypol has fallen, billions of workers must die" ever since leftypol started, I don't worry about it too much really. Just keep posting non-zero autism score takes and it's all fine.
No.32664
>>32663they were in charge of readsettlers.com too
No.32665
>>32656>Lowtax is responsible for third-worldist edgelordsIs there anything this man touched that didn't turn to shit
No.32666
>>326602022 onward makes 2020 leftypol look like the fucking monthly review
No.32667
>>32665It might be more accurate to say that Lowtax's mods were responsible. Lowtax himself didn't care about any of that shit. He just wanted to be surrounded by people that told him he was funny. It was elements of his mod team that really cultivated the "sjw" mindset there, and Lowtax backed them as long as they operated as his forum enforcers.
No.32668
>>32665>>32667lowtax fucking hated lf lol thats why he deleted it
No.32669
>>32667even so, the idea that the Edgelord Central of the 2000s is responsible for Ohio white boys screeching
READ SETTLERS is not the plot twist I was responsible for
No.32670
>>32669*plot twist I was expecting.
Fucking hell I'm tired.
No.32671
>>32669Most people on SA kept to their own subforum dude.
No.32672
>>32654I mean did anyone actually say the second part though. I don't remember that. I mean always a few anons say retarded shit but it doesn't count if the majority of the board is clowning on them.
No.32673
>>32669goons have always been wreckers, from online games to politics, you shouldn't be surprised
they're the people who did most of the stuff 4chan got blamed for
No.32674
>>32641Fucking KEK I forgot about this
>>32618 >These opinionsAh, a fellow old-fag spotted! Hello there comr8!
>>32606>Bunch of candy-assesYou reveal yourself, GETposter
No.32675
>>32654Nobody ever made that argument other than /pol/ trolls who immediately got BTFO for trying to pull that shit.
No.32676
>>32636Doesn't seem a lot changed tbqph
No.32677
>>32636>Ancom anon with the same liberal strawman takes as usualSome things never change lol
No.32678
>>32661>and people who can't even be called communist or even anarchist.idk, feels like this election year has, so far, been insanely less succdem than 2020.
No.32680
>>32658>Yup, they were the ones who started and pushed the "read Settlers" meme.To be fair, when they were doing that, the LF board on Something Awful was, like, one of the only places on the internet where something like Sakai would even come up. It was also originally a containment board / gulag to shove Ron Paul posters into until it was taken over by the amoebic or proto version of internet communist shitposters who are all over the place today. It was actually a relatively small group of people.
>>32673>goons have always been wreckers, from online games to politics, you shouldn't be surprised. they're the people who did most of the stuff 4chan got blamed for4chan deserved to be wrecked. They deserve all the blame it gets and if there was internet justice they'd be nuked from orbit.
What tended to happen with Something Awful is they'd create new subforums in response to user demand or to contain something, and then Lowtax or the mods would eventually tire of their containment boards and shut it down, or goons unhappy with the moderation would spin off and start a new site. They had a subforum for, I guess, "internet drama" called Helldump which was also eventually shut down – that is now basically Kiwi Farms. 4chan started out as a more, erm, loli-friendly version of the anime subforum I think.
IMO they've always been a bit better at other sites at regulating themselves, which might have something to do with the culture or even basic structure of the website (they've historically been quicker to ban, and charge money for accounts). There's a certain point where the goons will start to go too far with it, but they cut it off before it bleeds over into real life generally. They will squelch an entire subforum if it causes too many headaches, like /pol/ would've been smashed years ago if it was on the forums. Like, delete forum, mass bannings.
No.32681
>>32519 Holy shit leftychan still exists?!?! They're only on their 3rd Ukraine war general must be a really slow board. Does anyone have a read on the quality of the place? Are they still obsessed with Idpol like during the split?
Anyway onto the main topic. I left here around 2020ish I want to say? Have been here since the 8chan days. I still come back just to read news threads because leftypol still gets information faster during geopolitical events than other places usually, imageboards and news sites alike. I like being in a room of leftist voices when receiving that information usually because the propaganda of American media is irritating as hell.
Otherwise though I'm not super active because there aren't as many effortposts these days that I actually learn stuff from. This community used to help me find books to read and present nuanced discussion on many different leftist topics that helped me grow as a person. Once I outgrew/many of those folks moved on it became more boring for me. Also, I organized for 5 years irl while posting on this board then burnt out on irl organizing and haven't since so that's probably part of it.
I've had an ideological shift too towards post-marxist degrowth which is certainly part of my less intense interest in this place. A lot of anons probably have similar stories.
No.32682
>>32681>Does anyone have a read on […] the placeTwo words, incidentally the same two words that are sufficient to describe Trotsky: Sore losers
No.32685
>>32681>Holy shit [wordfiltered] still exists?!?! Yeah. It's slow
actually it's not - it's on-par for a typical special interest imageboard, leftypol is historically an outlier in its high activity so it just seems slow if you're only used to here and 4chan but there's no shortage of people getting banned here for being in the wrong place at the wrong time and so it will be a long time before it rolls over. It will probably be alive as long as this site survives, because this leftypol.org isn't going to stop supplying it with people looking for a /leftypol/ board to post on.
>>32682And yet leftypol.org unfortunately failed to win. The coup left the community dead in the water, although to be perfectly frank, it was doomed to a permanent decline from the moment Krates resigned to let Zul be a corrupt little fuck. The headless chicken flails, but lives.
No.32686
>>32685That is not dead which can eternal lie
Wow it's like we are the Walking Dead (tm)
No.32687
people in general are much moar retarded but not just here, everywhere.
No.32688
>>32641>cake shaped like a wallwut
No.32690
>>326882017 cap, probably a reference to Trump's border wall.
No.32692
>>325072020 to 2021 was the furthest leftypol has been from fascism in its history
It was a good time
No.32693
>>32588Realistically, no, not at all
Russians in the West are obviously indistinguishable from other white people and western whites don't give a fuck what your last name is
Chinese people still get propped up by the model minority propaganda even as the US turns against the CPC
The ethnic groups that face intense repression in the West are arabs, africans, roma, and south asians
No.32694
old /leftypol/ was basically leftcoms, bookchin and zizek shills and ancoms, this place became a lot more "tankie" like it always happens with communities over time. but the former basically turned into liberals like muke, which is also typical if you know anything about communist history.
there were more sectarian theory discussions but at this point everything has been sort of said, i am not regurgitating the same points over and over. there are screencaps of effort posts. like, zizek coming out as bloodthirsty racist cunt, openly, kinda make all those old arguments pointless.
No.32695
>>32694>Muke<LiberalIs it because he stopped posting on the interwebz?
No.32696
>>32636this was not "old leftypol", you realize this place exists since almost 10 years. "old leftypol" is where the refugees from 4chans /lit/ went. the haz thing was a short, recent episode and dissolved once he called the cops on us. not even the Z gang in the ukraine thread shills for that guy anymore.
No.32697
>>32695i wouldn't know, he blocked me on all his social media when i pointed out fatal flaws in his "value theory". he also works for master card now, making over 8k a month. also a drug addict. i am sorry how much more liberal do you want to get
No.32698
>>32697 (me)
>>32695also don't forget that affair with that necrophiliac brazilian woman, who also openly said that she's not a communist anymore. still does OF tho
No.32700
>>32697So you know he's a liberal because he didn't give you the attention you wanted and then a bunch of personal bullshit that has nothing to do with his politics or worldview?
No.32701
I have the feeling, that leftypol has now much more degenerates. Don't get me wrong, it's Ok to be a degenerate, as long as you keep it for yourself. But today, degens are openly advertising their lifestyles. Yes, they are openly proud degens! Drugtards, gooners, pedos, prostitutes… This board is full of them. Was it that extreme in the past? I don't know….
No.32702
>>32511The ultra plague is finally about to come to an end.
No.32703
>>32701uygha has been on the internet a month tops lmfao
No.32704
>>32701/leftypol/ has more coomers than before, that's for sure. I've noticed the same pattern on 4chan throughout the years with different boards becoming more and more sexualized. It's a sort of elephant in the room. Some people, even here, apparently just wanna keep pretending that rampant porn consumption is a non-existent problem.
No.32705
>>32701>>32704puritanism got laughed you out of imageboards before unlike now
No.32706
>>32705Wow you mean things change? Is that what you are saying?
No.32707
>>32706But it seems you are moaning about things not changing for your pet issue
No.32708
>>32704Maybe it's some kind of glowie psyop.
No.32709
>>32704rampant pon consumption is a symptom not a problem in and of itself.
No.32710
>>32707Just a guess but you are as emotionally incontinent as a little child
No.32711
Incompetent, Incontinent, Impotent, shall I keep going
No.32712
>>32709Well I agree with that
No.32713
>>32710You're the one that is upset thoughever
No.32714
>>32705I blame cuckchan after all the quality posters left. That's where this "coomer" shit came from.
No.32715
>>32701>>32704One of the new commie alt-sites has just put 'no porn' in their rules, and every other month someone asks the mods here to make a separate /nsfw/ board. It's real and people notice it.
We haven't reached /pol/ level NSFW/goreporn posting yet, leftypol is at least SFW on the image side of things, but that sex-obsession culture has definitely been normalized and it is a bit fukken boring.
And before anyone accuses me of being a prude, my yiff art is on MSG. No.32716
>>32701>>32704>>32715I have noticed a considerable decline in porn since shay left.
No.32717
It was more anarchist in the beginning, but then so was all of the left. I think the development of knowledge and critique has kind of slowed down a bit, having reached the limits of what chans can do. It's necessary to go further into your own research, rather than rely on forums for your education.
No.32718
>>32696Damn I can't believe it's been ten years. Finding leftypol in the wake of the right wing turn in gamergate was such a a formative moment for me.
No.32720
>>32719We are talking about a time when people didn't realize the problems with David Graeber And Noam Chomsky
No.32721
>>32711I can hold me pee and get a boner when needed. Not commenting on #1 tho.
No.32722
>>32715> every other month someone asks the mods here to make a separate /nsfw/ board.There has been 1 such request
No.32723
>>32722Maybe I just saw the requests bumped a lot, although fwiw, more than one OP propose it:
http://leftypol.org/search.php?search=%2Fnsfw%2F&board=meta No.32724
>>32719A lot of the online ML movement has fucking nothing to do with reading theory, anon
It's mostly bolstered by:
-Memes
-Appeals to authority
-Jannie censorship
-Childish insults
-Aesthetics posting
-Woke moralism (don't you know le non-whites are all MLs without exception!?)
No.32725
>>32704You've got a point.
Current 4chan is infested with fascists from Twitter and incels.is posters.
No.32726
>>32569>but I honestly don't even know how we would go about recruiting new users since you have the slim ass venn diagram overlap of communist and uses imageboard.The /leftypol/ way has always been to convert and retain tourists and raiders.
Publicity?
Provoke a raid?
No.32727
>>32674u wat, it's an old 4chan filter
No.32728
Well the 8ch days were a long time ago so I'm going off memory but it's about the same with less focus on e-drama and more 'multipolarist' garbage
No.32729
>>32726After Max set himself on fire, the board could pick up the few stupidpol participants who were committed to the Marxist critique of essentialism. The risk is that those trying to wheedle Marx into sparing or supporting their rustic superstitions would come along, and those elements are best added dropwise lest they take over.
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